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Re: National 25 Comp Record goes again...

CTC Forum - Racing - 14 September 2014 - 11:05pm
That is going to be such a hard time to beat!!

Re: How to train for long distance cycle touring

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 14 September 2014 - 11:03pm
Yep. Ride longer distance rides everytime.

there's no substitute for miles!

Re: More Dawes bashing?

CTC Forum - On the road - 14 September 2014 - 10:17pm
LondonBikeCommuter wrote:DaveGos wrote:you would not want to use a F1 engine on a family car it would break down after a few 100 miles

I'm not calling for a Dura-Ace Ultra Galaxy but what would be wrong with full Ultegra or even full 105 versions... Dawes are after all charging £1800. Are these group sets considered unreliable? And if not what would make them unsuitable?

I ask in part because if I did build up an Ultra Galaxy frame I'd use full Ultegra apart from brakes and wheels.

Ultegra is very high end and expensive , why do you want that, I race on a 7 year old 105 and its fine.

These are all primarily designed for road bikes with fairly close ratios , what kind of shifters do you want and are yu planning on using a triple of compact double , They all have an effect on what is available. Also a modern lets say 105 is better than an ultegra from some years ago. Also how many gears as the modern stuff has thinner chains for 11 and 10 speed blocks , which does not really fit in with the concept of a do everything reliable war horse. Often MTB equipment can be better for a touring bike ( if it will work with drops) than road stuff - Gives more suitable gear ratios

Seems the marketeers have got to you and you are more bothered about where the equipment is in the Shimano hierarchy rather than its functionality

Re: More Dawes bashing?

CTC Forum - On the road - 14 September 2014 - 10:08pm
LondonBikeCommuter wrote:DaveGos wrote:you would not want to use a F1 engine on a family car it would break down after a few 100 miles

I'm not calling for a Dura-Ace Ultra Galaxy but what would be wrong with full Ultegra or even full 105 versions... Dawes are after all charging £1800. Are these group sets considered unreliable? And if not what would make them unsuitable?

I ask in part because if I did build up an Ultra Galaxy frame I'd use full Ultegra apart from brakes and wheels.

Because current 105 and ultegra don't do triple shifters or triple cranks. Because current 105 and ultegra only have mid cage rear derailleurs which may support up to a cassette of 32 but only with a double up front. Shimano have in their wisdom removed triples from anything above tiagra so you just cannot do it.

Re: More Dawes bashing?

CTC Forum - On the road - 14 September 2014 - 10:05pm
My Dawes 1-Down that I bought in 1999 (I think ) came with RSX groupset, not bottom of the range but not top and has been fine was £649 then compared to £599 for a Galaxy. Best bike I have ever had. I originally bought it on a whim as the YHA Adventure shop was giving a 20% discount so I got it for £520. The Dawes Galaxy at the time also had RSX I think

Re: Off The bike for a while

CTC Forum - On the road - 14 September 2014 - 10:00pm
Sorry to hear of your injury. I was there in July. Did a fantastic tour of Ireland starting in Rosslare, down to Mizen Head, up the west coast to Malin Head and finished in Belfast. Get well soon and enjoy Ireland next time.

Re: More Dawes bashing?

CTC Forum - On the road - 14 September 2014 - 9:57pm
karlt wrote:J e James has never really recognised that touring bikes exist.Exactly it. He talked as though touring/audaxing was a tiny minority activity long out of fashion. We felt like some sort of perverts!
We ended up with Vernon Barker in Dronfield - a mine of information and very helpful. We haven't bought anything yet but he is top of the list at the mo.
http://www.vernonbarkercycles.co.uk/

Re: More Dawes bashing?

CTC Forum - On the road - 14 September 2014 - 9:37pm
DaveGos wrote:you would not want to use a F1 engine on a family car it would break down after a few 100 miles

I'm not calling for a Dura-Ace Ultra Galaxy but what would be wrong with full Ultegra or even full 105 versions... Dawes are after all charging £1800. Are these group sets considered unreliable? And if not what would make them unsuitable?

I ask in part because if I did build up an Ultra Galaxy frame I'd use full Ultegra apart from brakes and wheels.

Re: Pulled Over By The Police

CTC Forum - On the road - 14 September 2014 - 9:30pm
There was an article in The Guardian last year (http://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2013/jan/10/cycling-high-visibility-safe-fluorescent) where it says (quoting from a report by the TRL)

" The results are interesting in that they show the previously held assertion that a bright reflective jacket will improve rider conspicuity may not always be true ...

[T]he message seems to be that the most conspicuous outfit will be dictated by the lighting conditions and local environment at the time, which may be extremely variable within the confines of even a fairly short ride."

So it appears that standing out from the crowd is the important thing so a flashing light in a sea of steady car lights may be more effective than dressing like a banana, while in some circumstances black is the best colour to wear

Re: More Dawes bashing?

CTC Forum - On the road - 14 September 2014 - 9:09pm
As someone who used to tour and now mainly does racing and day rides , I got my tourer out the garage for the first time today in a long while - Bloody heavy (Thorn Club Tour) a good beast for doing everything and carrying lots of luggage but frankly unless you are doing say moving on unsupported touring , not really necessary these days

Re: Pulled Over By The Police

CTC Forum - On the road - 14 September 2014 - 9:06pm
I remember being told by an acquaintance that he'd passed me in his car, one dark night on a lonely country lane, and that my flashing rear was just the ticket to alert him that there was a cyclist ahead. How he recognised me in the dark I wasn't sure. No matter, a pat on the back for me, in other words.

So I've switched my rear to flashing ever since. Yes I know this is the opinion of just one motorist, but one supportive opinion is worth more than none.

Re: More Dawes bashing?

CTC Forum - On the road - 14 September 2014 - 9:05pm
Not an expert , but not sure what you need top level groupsets for on a tourer as someone who does a bit of racing my understanding of the more expensive groupsets are they are lighter and they change better under power. In a race everybody sprints out of the corners - hard - so this is vital . Neither of these apply for touring you would not want to use a F1 engine on a family car it would break down after a few 100 miles

Re: Trail A Bike For Tourer?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 14 September 2014 - 8:57pm
A few further pointers from the forum's collective wisdom: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=64611

Re: Pulled Over By The Police

CTC Forum - On the road - 14 September 2014 - 8:55pm
Jughead wrote:Just after nine so had a front light, rear light and flashing lights on my rucksack. They told me that with oncoming traffic headlights I was a danger. They asked why I wasn't wearing a hi-viz vest and a helmet. Told them I have cycled for some 40+ years without either and wasnt going to start now. They told me to get off the road and cycle on the pavement as I was a danger to other road users.
I did as they instructed. Just as well as they had pulled into a side street a couple of hundred yards ahead to spy on me. Must have been a slow night for them. So helmets and hi-viz are not legal requirements. Can the police force you wear them if they deem you are a danger.

OK a few notes from my viewpoint, from a driving and cycling viewpoint.

I also used to cycle 40-odd years ago, the roads were far less crowded, and helmets and hi-viz just weren't around. But they are now, and the roads are more crowded, and being seen, more importantly being seen for what you are is probably more important now than it has ever been as a result.

Helmet - I "re-started" cycling at the age of 40-ish - about 25 years ago, and from the word go I used a helmet. Partly it has to be said as an example to my then 5-year old son, but also I figured I only had one head, and brain, and I needed them both for work. I've so far only used it twice in anger, once when I was walloped by a low overhanging branch on a local lane, and once when I sat up at traffic lights and bumped my head on the door mirror of a truck that had just pulled up beside me! Oh, plus the time I cycled having (I thought) recovered from an ear infection, and found my balance wasn't working after all!

Hi Viz jackets - A cycling friend of mine simply doesn't like hard-hats, but always keeps his hi-viz to hand. He covers a many miles a year on his bike as I do in the car!

Being seen for what you are - On dark local lanes I've found that flashing lights with no steady light on the rear of a bicycle looks uncannily like distant roadworks with flashing beacons rather than a much closer bicycle. A line of cyclists gives this impression even more strongly. I first noticed this effect when following a line of cyclists on a club ride back from the pub one summers evening - I was one of the group, acting as the sweeper at the time! However a steady light or two at each end of the bike, plus maybe the odd hi-viz band, and heel/pedal reflectors/bright clothing are very effective and almost shout "Hey, I'm on a bike"!

Flashing front lights - even worse than rear ones! Often angled badly so shine directly into my eyes when approaching from the other direction (or into my rear-view mirror if I've just overtaken such a bike while in the car) This does not improve anyone's road safety. If I'm on a bike it's not so bad, but in the car I sit lower so the effect is more pronounced. IMHO flashing front lights should be diffused, not a tight beam, and should be used in conjunction with a front light angled for the cyclist to see the road surface ahead.

But a pair of very bright headlamps? -- could it look like a distant car?

All effects mentioned above are really, really exacerbated if there is an oncoming vehicle with full headlights on or has just dipped them. Dimly flashing lights just disappear in the resulting blackness.

On one bike (which I no longer have) I used to have some white, self-adhesive reflectors attached to the wheel rims - unobtrusive by day but my goodness did they reflect car headlights at night! Made by Madison I think, haven't seen them around lately.

I guess what I'm trying to say is - especially with our more crowded roads, on dark nights in badly lit places you really need all the help you can get to be seen for what you are, but beware of camouflaging yourself as something else.

Re: South Downs Way on a touring bike ??

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 14 September 2014 - 8:55pm
I did it on my ATB back in March, fully laden with panniers, 2nd time iv'e done it.26" wheels. I'd not recommend it. I don't own a MTB.

Re: More Dawes bashing?

CTC Forum - On the road - 14 September 2014 - 8:41pm
J e James has never really recognised that touring bikes exist.

Re: Cotswold Line

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 14 September 2014 - 8:38pm
Really glad you liked it - definitely brought a smile to my face reading this. I'll pass on the link to everyone who's been involved!

We're working on Worcestershire County Council to get the missing section from Evesham to Honeybourne signposted. But I see from the sixth pic you found your way through no problem.

Richard (Sustrans ranger at the Oxfordshire end of the route)

Re: Pulled Over By The Police

CTC Forum - On the road - 14 September 2014 - 8:31pm
Hi,
Flinders wrote:I think the OP's exprience justifies a formal complaint.
I'm sufficiently wary of the police these days, that if one stopped me I'd get my camera out and record everything. I think that's rather sad, as I'm practically a pathological law-obeyer.
I nearly edited one of my posts and added "Sad" when I posted it.
I to used to be a pathological law - obeyer too.............now I am just pathological............

All my life i have heard the words Optimist / Pessimist, they use optimist to describe themselves in good light, pessimist is normally used as a joke on self or a jibe at others.

I am a pessimist, an optimist thinks they can fly.................

Re: Pulled Over By The Police

CTC Forum - On the road - 14 September 2014 - 8:31pm
Jughead wrote: ... . They asked why I wasn't wearing a hi-viz vest and a helmet. ...

For some reason - perhaps my failing memory - I'd got you down as a supporter of hi-viz.

Re: Pulled Over By The Police

CTC Forum - On the road - 14 September 2014 - 8:23pm
Hi,
TonyR wrote:NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
Nice story TonyR.
But you are in a (well trained in the right questions to ask and answer) position to be able to do that we the public are not


Me? No! I'm just a member of the public too reposting a story originally told by a police officer on uk.rec.cycling as you would have seen if you'd read what I posted.
Sorry my bad.
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