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Re: Touring in Norway

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 January 2015 - 3:56pm
Vorpal wrote:syklist wrote:It looks like another operator is going to run a similar service. Has anyone else heard about this?

http://www.reginaline.dk/index-uk.htm
They are still looking for investors. Also viewtopic.php?f=16&t=93173&hilit=+ferry

tried contacting them last week - no reply

Re: Are mtb tyres changing?

CTC Forum - MTB - 23 January 2015 - 3:42pm
Did notice on my absolutely pathetic Michelin Cycle Cross Mud 2 which has gone in the bin does grip better than my chunky Shcwalbe Snow Stud which has old fashioned toffee sized blocks, so thanks for that!

Re: Signage concerns at a junction in Oxford.

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 January 2015 - 3:26pm
anniesboy wrote:http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/11744463.Signs_to_go_up_at_Worcester_Street_junction_that_places_cyclists_at_risk/

As James Dawton says “It is quite unusual for cyclists to have to give way when a light is on green.

Lets hope this arrangement does not become common place.

I confess I don't know this junction well and have never cycled there.
Well, of course much of Oxford has changed beyond recognition since the days when I lived there (1960s) and I don't recall how this junction lay then: most likely it was a straight cross-roads in those days which I must have cycled across several times.

But, looking at Streetview, it appears to be, now, merely a stretch of road with no junction at all for motorists, merely a sharp left bend and a ped-controlled crossing on the bend. And a cycle route access over to the right. Awkward layout, maybe, but I wouldn't have thought it unique. And as for "It is quite unusual for cyclists to have to give way when a light is on green." - well I do that all the time, whenever I'm at a cross-roads waiting to turn right. Everybody does (or at least, should do).

But if the route is heavily used by cyclists turning onto the cycles-only path, maybe there should be a cyclists-only green phase on the lights (i.e. an illuminated green bicycle symbol). As, again, there exists in other parts of the country. And even more so in the Netherlands.

Perhaps they ought to get a Dutch traffic engineer over to sort this one out...

Re: Female Cyclist Death In North London

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 January 2015 - 3:20pm
661-Pete wrote:The banksman (should that be 'banksperson'? ) idea sounds good to me. Wasn't there a rule, some time ago, that a certain type of HGV: wagon-and-drag, had to have a second person in the cab? But of course, if this were (re-)implemented, we'd all end up paying for it, seeing as freight transport costs are factored into the cost of living.

Or maybe it would just cause a partial shift back towards rail?

Re: Female Cyclist Death In North London

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 January 2015 - 3:06pm
Vantage wrote:The only license I ever held was for a forklift and I haven't even driven one of those for 8 or 9 years and they (at the time I drove) afaik, weren't required to have mirrors, but,
Funnily enough a couple of weeks ago I was cycling up a road. A few hundred meters up the road in his companies driveway was a guy in a forklift talking to his mate and facing the same direction as I was travelling.
As I was going past he suddenly reversed and turned - probably only moved about 3 or 4 feet but forklifts have a staggeringly good turning circle which pretty much simply rotated him around the front wheels and had the consequence of swinging the forks out into the road at my neck height!
With no chance to brake I swerved and only narrowly avoided them by inches. (It's a quiet road and I suspect he was relying on his ears).
I heard someone say "richard head" but whether that was aimed at me or the driver I'll never know...

Had he had mirrors he might have seen me coming, certainly he'd had no intention of actually looking behind him.

Signage concerns at a junction in Oxford.

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 January 2015 - 3:00pm
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/11744 ... s_at_risk/

As James Dawton says “It is quite unusual for cyclists to have to give way when a light is on green.

Lets hope this arrangement does not become common place.

I confess I don't know this junction well and have never cycled there.

Re: Touring in Norway

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 January 2015 - 3:00pm
syklist wrote: ... and local trains to Hirtshals then take the Colorline boat to either Kristansand (start of the Setesdal route) or Larvik (start of the Numedal route, which joins up nicely with the Rallarvegen) or the Fjordline boat to Bergen.

There is a fast ferry (4 hours) from Hirtshals to Larvik, and it is quite reasonably priced (£50 ish) if you can be a little flexible about time and day.

I'll second the suggestion of the Numedal route to Rallarvegen, though there is also at least one reasonable alternative to Numedal, mostly on secondary roads ('B' road equivalents).

Re: Female Cyclist Death In North London

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 January 2015 - 2:58pm
The banksman (should that be 'banksperson'? ) idea sounds good to me. Wasn't there a rule, some time ago, that a certain type of HGV: wagon-and-drag, had to have a second person in the cab? But of course, if this were (re-)implemented, we'd all end up paying for it, seeing as freight transport costs are factored into the cost of living.

I must admit, I now have a healthy feeling of nervousness whenever a rigid lorry, especially skip carrier or tipper truck, comes trundling up behind me. More so than I used to: I think that for many years I adopted a too-easy-going attitude to the dangers on our roads . But now, what with all these tragedies over recent years, they do scare me. If I'm bold enough, I will stay in primary and hold one back until I'm absolutely sure of a safe place for it to pass. But I'm not comfortable about doing that either - and it's not just about the hooting that ensues....

Re: Female Cyclist Death In North London

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 January 2015 - 2:57pm
The only license I ever held was for a forklift and I haven't even driven one of those for 8 or 9 years and they (at the time I drove) afaik, weren't required to have mirrors, but,
even the mirror on my bike is adjustable.
A member here, Hexhome once said there is no such thing as a blind spot on a truck, just a lack of looking properly. He's a HGV driver. I put the remark to my dad who's been driving trucks for the best part of 40+ years without a single accident* and he agreed with it.

*The exception being one muppit who didn't understand the idea that undertaking a truck on a motorway then moving in front of it with little room and braking hard before an exit leaves you with 40+ tons of truck parked in your boot

Re: Touring in Norway

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 January 2015 - 2:52pm
syklist wrote:It looks like another operator is going to run a similar service. Has anyone else heard about this?

http://www.reginaline.dk/index-uk.htm
They are still looking for investors. Also viewtopic.php?f=16&t=93173&hilit=+ferry

Re: Female Cyclist Death In North London

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 January 2015 - 2:48pm
That's supposed to be making the point that when the articulated truck has started to turn, the mirrors reflect more and more- just the trailer. However, those mirrors are clearly adjusted to 'over-do' the effect and miss the cyclists - because they show vast amounts of white cab instead of blue trailer!.

Non-articulated trucks have different issues, ones without the extra low mirrors (as apparently was the case in this incident) have many more (and would be illegal in London under the proposed changes that BJ might make - which I understand are opposed by London's road haulage industry association).

Whatever the issues, it should not be acceptable to use vehicles on public roads which can 'lose' vulnerable road users (which in the case of such trucks includes drivers of cars) so easily. Trucks used to have a driver and 'mate' - a banksman or co-driver to look out for such issues. whether this was enough is moot, the industry has got rid of them on cost grounds - except on sites where H&S at Work insists they are used. If you think about it, that's quite significant: In a place where the suroundings are controlled, where everyone is an employee and can be trained to the dangers of trucks - a banksman is required. Take the truck away from the trained workforce and use it amongst the general public (who are patently not going to be as knowledgeable on average about truck dangers and requirements, however many cycle proficiency courses you run) - and magically a banksman is not required for safety!

Re: Female Cyclist Death In North London

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 January 2015 - 2:47pm
Very incomplete view.

1) Not all current mirrors are there, and even on those shown I can see bits of cyclists.
2) There is no dynamic - that is a static layout, where the roads are not. People have to move into those areas (i.e. lorry drivers positions themselves around cyclists, and cyclists position themselves around lorries) and they should be visible whilst doing so.


More importantly though - this is why HGVs should require a banksman...

Re: Tour de Isle of Wight - 1-4 May 2015

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 January 2015 - 2:46pm
Heltor Chasca wrote:It's been about 17 years since I was last on the IoW. Considering there's possibly going to be 2000+ cyclists doing their randonnée what will the campsites be like?

Play safe and book or throw caution to the wind and wing it? I imagine this little place isn't going to let wild campers get away with it [emoji102]

I've never camped for it but one of the check points is on a campsite at Wootton Bridge and while busy it never seems crowded.

Re: Tour de Isle of Wight - 1-4 May 2015

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 January 2015 - 2:25pm
It's been about 17 years since I was last on the IoW. Considering there's possibly going to be 2000+ cyclists doing their randonnée what will the campsites be like?

Play safe and book or throw caution to the wind and wing it? I imagine this little place isn't going to let wild campers get away with it [emoji102]

Re: Female Cyclist Death In North London

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 January 2015 - 2:20pm
I didn't comment because I didn't really feel qualified, tbh, but I came across this graphic (in an enlightening, not any other way) footage when reading a thread on another Forum which made me appreciate this arena perhaps a little better. I expect many who are better acquainted with the particular area are will have seen it, but in case not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzL0Kyk ... e=youtu.be

Re: Tour de Isle of Wight - 1-4 May 2015

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 January 2015 - 2:13pm
Picked up my OS map today. Looking forward to it. Anyone know what the weather's doing on that weekend? [emoji274]

Re: Cycle Touring Festival Clitheroe

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 January 2015 - 12:57pm
Sweep wrote:Thanks for that, bicycler, i should have checked. I only wondered as I cycled past a year or two ago and at the entrance there was something that looked like a corporate sign.
There is an external link on that site for corporate bookings. I assume that they have third party arrange the letting out of meeting rooms etc.

Re: Touring in Norway

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 January 2015 - 12:35pm
iviehoff wrote:syklist wrote:3) If you want to avoid planes then probably the easiest is to take Harwich Esbjerg
Harwich-Esbjerg has now ceased, so you can't do that any more.

It looks like another operator is going to run a similar service. Has anyone else heard about this?

http://www.reginaline.dk/index-uk.htm

There is the story about Norwegian Seaways starting up a Newcastle - Bergen service. They are still trying to raise capital to get going. One of the main sources of capital was the Offshore Oil industry particularly in Stavanger which is now cutting back a lot due to the low oil prices.

Here is the story in Norgleeze courtesy of our favourite auto translation service.

Re: Touring in Norway

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 January 2015 - 12:19pm
iviehoff wrote:syklist wrote:3) If you want to avoid planes then probably the easiest is to take Harwich Esbjerg
Harwich-Esbjerg has now ceased, so you can't do that any more.

I am obviously not keeping up. When I lived in Utrecht we used the night train service to Copenhagen to start/finish tours in Norway and Scandinavia. I have not been able to find that service on db.de today.

An alternative would be to get to Amsterdam (Harwich - Hoek van Holland or Hull - Rotterdam or Newcastle - Ijmuiden let me know if any of these no longer run) take trains to Denmark... or Germany. It looks like there is a 09:01 from Amsterdam with two changes to the ferry Puttgarden - Rødby Havn where the train takes the ferry with you and end up in Copenhagen. Night boat to Oslo.

I think I'd still be more inclined to go from Amsterdam to Hirtshals by train. Would a bike be covered by an Interrail ticket?

Try the DB website for planning such trips http://www.bahn.de/p_en/view/index.shtml

Re: Touring in Norway

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 January 2015 - 11:57am
syklist wrote:3) If you want to avoid planes then probably the easiest is to take Harwich Esbjerg
Harwich-Esbjerg has now ceased, so you can't do that any more.
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