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Re: Pushing a bike on a footpath.

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 October 2014 - 3:09pm
beardy wrote:Somebody would not be breaking any law by walking across your lawn either!

We are discussing a footpath are we not?

BTW I don't have a lawn,pebbles yes but no lawn

Insurance

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 28 October 2014 - 2:13pm
I wish to take out insurance for next years cycle tour in Europe, I rang the company suggested by CTC on the website, they inform me as i will be 66 next year I cant have cover for 4 months , there is a 100 day max up to 65 years old,then 50 days after 65.
Ive rung other companies and they tell me about the same, has anyone any suggestions please, apart from going uninsured.

Re: France - channel to the Med (or vice-versa)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 28 October 2014 - 2:05pm
+1 on North to South, whatever route you take. In the normal scheme of things, the worst winds you get will be south-westerlies. If you go S->N via the Rhône valley you'll likely have the Mistral in the chops, and if you aim NW through the Corbières the headwinds can quite casually reach 90 kph (BTDT).

Unbelievable

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 October 2014 - 1:58pm
Just had a close overtake by a learner driver under instruction in a school car with dual controls. Is it any wonder that motorists don't know how much clearance to give if they are being taught by morons?

Re: Pushing a bike on a footpath.

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 October 2014 - 1:35pm
I am afraid that "the little Hitler" is obliged by our country's stupid laws to kick up a fuss about this.
If he just lets it happen like a nice friendly person may feel like doing then after 20 years people can apply for a right from usage and forbid him from ever doing anything to his land that interferes with that right!

Re: Pushing a bike on a footpath.

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 October 2014 - 1:24pm
Somebody would not be breaking any law by walking across your lawn either!

Re: Pushing a bike on a footpath.

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 October 2014 - 1:15pm
PRL wrote:To get to the RHS gardens at Wisley from London the simplest way of getting under the M25 is Muddy Lane :

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.32609 ... vgOjKw!2e0

We cycled this way for many years but gates and No Cycles signs have appeared together with an abusive resident. Since the alternative routes involve long diversions onto even muddier tracks we resorted to pushing but the landowner claims that even this is forbidden.

CTC briefing is that this is a grey area legally but he is probably wrong.

What to do ? offer 20p for any damage to his nettles and advise him to sue if he can show that more damage has been caused ?

If you're not breaking any laws pushing your bike along this stretch of footpath,track/way get as many of your cycling friends together and have an organised push along it
TBH I'd do it just to wind this oink up,little hitlers are there to be irritated

Re: Bikes on a plane - box or bag?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 28 October 2014 - 1:02pm
I've always used a cardboard box from a bike shop on the way out with another box for the panniers and tent for two people. I pack it up in advance and drive to (near) the airport, park at a local farm that does parking and we are taken to the airport. I have a small car but can fit both bikes on a roof rack.

Returning, only once has there been a bike shop close enough to carry it to the airport. It was Toulous (Blagnac) we were staying in the Formule 1 hotel and there is a Decathlon nearby. I have alway gone to a DIY shop or large supermarket and bought a cheap tarpaulin. For some extra padding I've also bought a length of pipe lagging and even a 2 euro yoga mat to wrap around the tubes. Have done in excess of 30 flights each with two bikes and never suffered any damage.

Re: France - channel to the Med (or vice-versa)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 28 October 2014 - 12:39pm
I did Dunkerque - Perpignan last year in late June and was very glad I did it that way round - riding towards (hopefully) better weather but mainly because the scenery became better and better as the ride went on - I did some longish (100) mile days early on and then reduced to around 75 to 80 for the Massif Central etc - I loved it!!
Had a lovely last meal in France in Perpignan and then caught the bike bus back - fabulous.

France - channel to the Med (or vice-versa)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 28 October 2014 - 12:14pm
May next year I plan to cycle through France and I am considering going from the Med (either from Montpellier or from Perpignan) to the Channel. The reason for going south to north rather than the more popular north to south, is that it should be easier logistically. I can fly to 'M' or 'P', discard the bike box which will be a cardboard box obtained from a local bike shop where I live. Then I can take as long as I wish to cycle to a channel port and simply buy a ticket at the ferry point back to England. Apart from the likely change in climate and weather what other disadvantage(s) will there be going from south to north. Can anyone assist?
Thanks.

Re: Visibility: why are do so many riders in black

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 October 2014 - 11:55am
Ellieb wrote:Do you really think that, for example, cycling experience has no influence on whether you have an accident? That weather conditions have no impact at all?
I think you misunderstand the report. The author says (p134) that cycling experience does decrease the risk of a crash. However, this (and other factors) does not significantly affect the odds ratio of conspicuous clothing. In other words, the effectiveness of hi-viz for experienced riders is the same as for inexperienced riders.

The smallish sample is reflected in the wide confidence intervals. The study found that hi-viz increased the crash odds by 20%, but this was not significant because of the wide CI. A larger study would reduce the CI and perhaps give a definitive result.

Re: Visibility: why are do so many riders in black

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 October 2014 - 11:47am
Ellieb wrote:The fact remains that on the basis of 76 crashes they managed to rule out all of these variables. That is a pretty impressive use of statistics. Do you really think that, for example, cycling experience has no influence on whether you have an accident? That weather conditions have no impact at all? I'm all for decent science, but at the end of the day you have to look at what the results seem to be saying. I'm sorry, but when you think of accident causation, to say that you can reliably rule out each individual potential factor, let alone account for the interaction of all these factors, I think is stretching it a bit. On the basis of 76 crashes.
I think you have to look at what the report says: "was not significantly affected" is not the same as "has no influence".

It's seems quite reasonable for a study including 76 crashes to fail to detect a significant effect of those factors. If I've remembered the method they use correctly (my statistics postgrad was a while ago and I've not reread the report this morning), it depends on the variance among the results. Given that the police estimate that something 80% of crashes involving riders aged over 25 are solely/partly the motorist's fault (Source: http://www.ctc.org.uk/blog/chris-peck/w ... -motorists ) and I doubt anything the cyclist does can help all that much in those (the most experienced riders on their favourite routes might avoid a few by backing off when they think "that car looks like it's about to do something daft", but how many?), that'll increase the variance and make it harder to detect any effect.

Basically, the best things we can do to make cyclists safer at the moment may well be to improve driving standards, or redesign the most dangerous locations with safety of all road users foremost in mind. Hi-vis is a red herring... or at least a fluorescent yellow herring.

Fountains in Italy

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 28 October 2014 - 11:46am
Aint the internet wonderful, despite its problems?

I cycle a fair bit in Sardinia and have always been impressed by the number of fountains of one sort or another (and the vast majority work!) - I;m more likely to die of thirst pedalling along the Thames than through the heart of a Mediterranean summer.#

But how to find them?

Some are on the GPS and others I can find by horse sense, but I've often mused that a techno-list would be handy.

And now some wonderful person has produced this rather smooth Android app

https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... mdc.nasoni

I've tested it out and it seems excellent -it has some obscure Sardinian fountains that even many locals won't know about.

It includes one of my favourites where folk turn up in cars to cart away loads of jerry cans of their favourite acqua tipple - this sort of thing is quite common for the admirably grounded Sards.

Might be useful for folks forsaking pricey Italian campsites for a bit of free camping.

PS: I note that some of you to cycle in Italy. Please feel free to add fountains of your own to it using the built in tool.

Re: Visibility: why are do so many riders in black

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 October 2014 - 10:55am
TonyR wrote:Ellieb wrote:Do you really think that a study which involves only 76 crashes is conclusive proof?
Perhaps it is if you want it to be.

With a 95% confounding adjusted CI of 1.06 to 5.7, its pretty strong evidence and a lot better than "because I think so"

The odds ratio was not significantly affected by adjustment for possession of a driving licence, reported bicycle safety training in childhood, psychometric associates of risk taking behaviour, cycle helmet wearing, years of experience of cycling, distance or number of trips cycled in the previous seven days, type of bicycle, the use of bike-mounted lights or reflectors, weather or lighting conditions, familiarity with the route or alcohol consumption within 8 hours prior to the recorded journey.

The fact remains that on the basis of 76 crashes they managed to rule out all of these variables. That is a pretty impressive use of statistics. Do you really think that, for example, cycling experience has no influence on whether you have an accident? That weather conditions have no impact at all? I'm all for decent science, but at the end of the day you have to look at what the results seem to be saying. I'm sorry, but when you think of accident causation, to say that you can reliably rule out each individual potential factor, let alone account for the interaction of all these factors, I think is stretching it a bit. On the basis of 76 crashes.

Re: Visibility: why are do so many riders in black

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 October 2014 - 10:52am
gaz wrote:[XAP]Bob wrote:Amazingly men in business suits are visible, ....
No they're not.
Mr Farley wrote:..."I didn't see David Cameron"...
The collision was inevitable from the moment he chose not to wear something to EN471:Class 3 .

He saw the men in suits, and ran through - he didn't see that it was David Cameron, nr did he see the person concealed behind someone else - that's not all that surprising.

The "men in suits" were visible to him - as he freely admits. But running through a group of men in suits doesn't normally end up with the jogger being arrested for police incompetence.

Re: I Hate Virgin Trains

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 October 2014 - 10:32am
geocycle wrote:Northern rail are best, rubbish trains but lots of space and no restrictions or booking, just hop on and off, very helpful. .

I agree about Northern. Perhaps they have improved some trains recently but some of them have seemed to me like tin cans on wheels. They do seem very reasonable and easygoing with bikes though as you say and for this they are ti be aplauded

Re: St Malo to Narbonne

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 28 October 2014 - 9:59am
anniesboy wrote:Hi Linda,

My wife and I are planing to ride from Narbonne to home in Oxfordshire on our tandem, so we just might meet en route.

We have done it before and went via Mazamet this time we are looking at a flatter route, we will after all have a combined age of 143.
We are doing this to "celebrate" our golden wedding anniversary.

Our plans are only outline at present as we have to be fit/well enough to do this.

Sounds fantastic - can't wait to hear how you get on!

Re: Visibility: why are do so many riders in black

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 October 2014 - 9:57am
TrevA wrote: Try buying bottoms in any colour that isn't black - you may be there some time.
There are several reasons for that: this is one of them

Re: Visibility: why are do so many riders in black

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 October 2014 - 9:50am
gaz wrote:[XAP]Bob wrote:Amazingly men in business suits are visible, ....
No they're not.
Mr Farley wrote:..."I didn't see David Cameron"...
The collision was inevitable from the moment he chose not to wear something to EN471:Class 3 .


Well played, Sir!
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