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Re: Cafe & coffee

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 September 2014 - 12:17pm
al_yrpal wrote:I read an economics book in which coffee shops were used as an example. Main railway stations and motorway service station coffee shops are very expensive largely because of high rent. If there is an alternative like an ordinary cafe or a greasy spoon we'll use that. But, companies like Starbucks charge whatever they think they can get away with. ...

The most basic fact about any business is that if they don't make a profit, they'll go bust. There are all sorts of reasons why they may not make a profit and not covering overheads is only one. Frightening away customers by charging too much is another and that's not simple because high prices can increase demand by giving a sense of exclusiveness.

When a chain of outlets is involved, it tends to be useless complaining because the customer facing colleagues (AKA counter staff) have no way of recording customer feedback. Voting with the feet is the only effective option but you need a lot of other people to feel the same way. It does happen - the current case being the traditional pub trade - but the coffee shop trade seems secure at the mo.

Re: Cafe & coffee

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 September 2014 - 12:17pm
Problem with coffee in Britain is there are still plenty of people who woudn't know good coffee if it jumped up in front of them singing the "I'm good coffee" dance wearing a "Good Coffee" T-shirt on National Good Coffee Day in a benefit gig for Good Coffee. There's a place around my way that does a "milky coffee" which consists of one part filter coffee (not espresso, filter coffee) and three parts hot milk. The old dears lap it up. This is a country where some 75% of coffee sales are instant, and Camp and Mellow Tu-, I mean Birds still has a market

Re: new to touring

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 September 2014 - 12:09pm
Depends on what sort of touring you want to do. If a moving-on tour staying at hostels or B&B's then you don't need to carry too much stuff, so a couple of panniers will suffice. If camping, you need to take more stuff, so you may need the ability to add front panniers and a front rack. i have the fittings for an extra bottle cage under the downtube but don't use it. If camping, it can be a useful place to keep a fuel bottle or extra water bottle.

Re: Cafe & coffee

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 September 2014 - 12:08pm
honesty wrote:Ask for filter coffee, its cheaper than even an Americano, and you get more.

I do, but you just get a puzzled look from the server. They don't seem to know what a filter coffee is! Many of them are foreigners and don't understand English and British habits and culture. If I visit a decent greasy spoon I always put a review on Tripadvisor.


Re: Police Thugs

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 September 2014 - 12:05pm
I've already said that I know my other thread is hardly scientific, but I think the context of this incident is important. At that time, after a well-publicised series of deaths of cyclists the police were under some pressure to do something. The result was a road safety campaign, where the authorities were keen to show that they were being somehow even-handed between the HGV's and the cyclists. I presumed - as I've posted - that this incident was one of many, aggravated by the rider being floored to stop them. In fact, one of the few other recent "road safety advice" incidents I've been unable to track down has involved the same rider.

If there's going to be some policy to tackle something, it's handy to know what's happening and how frequently it's happening. The slogan in the common knuckle tattoo, ACAB may well be true but let's be a bit more specific.

Re: A good idea for this country?

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 September 2014 - 11:39am
Grandad wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-29345631
and why stop at red light jumping. Could have a scale - 1 night for jumping red lights, 2 nights for using a mobile phone ..............

Saudi Arabia, and some other countries of that tradition, have a quite unbelievably appalling road safety record for countries of such a level of development. There is an unfortunate tendency to let multiple repeat offenders of egregiously dangerous offences continue driving. They need to do something sufficiently dramatic to move social attitudes to bad driving. Though taking bad drivers' licences off them would probably be more proportionate and effective. Also a proper driving test would help. Currently you drive once around a roundabout in a real car to show you have very basic operating facility, and then take a 15 min computer simulator test. A day of training is usually sufficient to pass. http://www.wikihow.com/Acquire-a-Drivin ... udi-Arabia

Re: World Time Trial chamionship (spoiler alert!)

CTC Forum - Racing - 25 September 2014 - 10:41am
Shame nobody was flying the flag in the ladies' elite this year. Jo Rowsell has now joined Emma Pooley in criticising this (see http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/sep/24/joanna-rowsell-criticises-british-cycling-womens-time-trial.

I'd be a lot happier with BC's stance if they'd put some numbers on it, and I find it hard to believe that an organisation as obsessed with measuring things as they are doesn't have them to hand. How much did it cost to send the road entrants and their support staff and their equipment to the Worlds, and what extra would have been required to send one more rider (say, Lucy Coldwell?) and one more bike to ride the Elite Women's TT?
And, while we're at it, how much were they prepared to spend on, say, XC mountain bike riders going to the Worlds in Norway earlier this year who might reasonably be described as not terribly likely to get a medal?

My interest in paying BC money and giving up my time to coach kids at a Go Ride club might not be piqued next year if they go on with arm-waving excuses like we've had so far.

But excellent ride from SBW!


Re: new to touring

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 September 2014 - 10:37am
The main thing is that the bike is comfortable; it needs to be. Other aspects are mostly fixable as you go.

Re: new to touring

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 September 2014 - 10:28am
It should be fine for touring. Bearing in mind folk have successfully toured on penny-farthings, that your hybrid isn't a "proper touring bike" is really not an issue. You may find yourself walking up nasty hills towards the end of the day, but that's hardly the end of the world, and you might find yourself taking the odd walk with 27 gears anywy. Tweaks needed will be sufficient luggage space, assuming you don't already have it, and while mudguards aren't essential they do tend to make life more comfortable on wet roads. Toe cages or clipless pedals make long distances a little easier, but again you can live without them.

The extra eyelets are for an extra water bottle cage, assuming you (a) want one and it (b) fits.

The main thing, and the most difficult thing, you need to go touring is the resolve to get on and do it. Once you're on your bike with a target in front of you it's "just" a case of turning the pedals until you get there. If you stick at it you can tune the kit to your own preferences over time, but to just get out touring you don't need any special kit.


new to touring

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 September 2014 - 9:39am
HI all,
I have a ridgeback 8 speed hybrid,with all eyelets for touring,
with a few tweaks will this be suitable for touring?
it also has eyelets on the underside of the down tube top end just behind the front wheel what would these be for

Re: Cafe & coffee

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 September 2014 - 9:34am
reohn2 wrote:You won't get a decent cup of coffee wherever for less than £1.80 it's that simple.
If you wish to drink instant that's your business,personally I'd rather not.

I don't always agree with R2, but he's bang on the money here. Life's too short to drink instant. OK, if doing a lightweight long-distance walk in the wilderness, then just maybe

Re: Show your touring bikes !!!!

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 September 2014 - 8:56am
bigjim wrote:theDaveB wrote:Here is my Decathlon Original 5 Night and Day + cheap Bob Yak ripoff trailer.
I want to know more about this.
I'm off to Portugal on Sunday. I hate travelling with the bike. It can cost me £100 to take my own bike. There is a Decathlon near the airport. I thought that Original three looks as if would tour. It's about £150. mmmm... Searched the net to see if anybody had toured with one. I tour light. saddlebag or stuffsac if poss.
So come on spill the beans. I know it's the 5 but I think there is not that much difference.

The 3 has thinner tubing on the frame and mentions a weight limit on the spec. I went to the shop to look at it and decided a 5 would be better for me as I weigh 17.5 stone.

I paid £209 at the time (12 months ago) and last time I was in noticed that do loads of others now around that price.

I can't complain about mine at all, only been on 2 tours to North Wales but go out on it nearly every day and not had a single problem. Only things I have changed our seat, tyres and pedals. They come with a £30 gel seat, I use their own £10 seat, much better. Changed the tyres due to too many punctures and the pedals becuase I wear sandals and could feel the pedal under my feet after a while, so swapped for some flat ones, also from Decathlon for £5.

Edit: Just had a look on the site, the 520 looks the same as mine and the 500 is the same minus rack and Dynamo.


Re: Jens gets Hour record

CTC Forum - Racing - 25 September 2014 - 8:50am
bearing improvements etc are a fact of life.

But the "spokes, drops and tubes" record should be held aloft as an inter-generational challenge.
The "current rules" record is there for any "current rules" - I'd even question the retrospective banning of positions (maybe have them recorded but "starred")

Then the "absolute" record is with the IHPVA - not even a close race with the UCI really...

Re: Police Thugs

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 September 2014 - 3:02am
I think people are dismissing this incident far too easily..it's pretty extreme for one thing given it IS an assault of the person and for another the police are covering their own backs and basically lying/denying what happened. id say the incident as a whole is extreme enough for people to be worried. That thirdcrank started a thread as to how often incidents happen is interesting but it really doesnt/won't ever give a true representation of the whole cross section of cyclists.

Re: World Time Trial chamionship (spoiler alert!)

CTC Forum - Racing - 25 September 2014 - 12:36am
I think Dowsett just said that he'd had an off day.

Re: It's not just cyclists then...

CTC Forum - On the road - 24 September 2014 - 11:43pm
Cunobelin wrote:THIS is road rage
Is it legal to use a hand held 'phone camera in the US? I expect it is. I was in New York in March and the standard of driving was the worst I've seen anywhere. Drivers and passengers never use seat belts, and if you are stupid enough to ride a bike you are begging for abuse

Re: Coed Y Brenin

CTC Forum - MTB - 24 September 2014 - 11:31pm
I haven't been to Coed Y Brenin for about 15 years I reckon. I remember it being great fun. I bet it's expanded a bit.

I did just get back from a week in Wales with my disabled wife though. You have to pay to park everywhere, even to stop in a car park to use the loo. The car park police were hovering like vultures.
I spent a lot of money in Wales, it did at times feel as though they didn't want tourists there though with their parking police everywhere.

Re: Coed Y Brenin

CTC Forum - MTB - 24 September 2014 - 11:17pm

Having sunk the best part of £800 all in including accommodation, transport, equipment and food (sourced locally) on a family activity holiday in the UK instead of joining the hordes abroad someone gets their panties in a bunch because I offer information that anyone with access to a map could have found out for themselves - without a shadow of a doubt the money saved on parking by myself (did it once on the last day there) and others would no doubt find its way into the local economy somehow

Regurgawhateveryournameis get a grip, some of us don't have fortunes to squander, and if my saving £5 on parking so I can enjoy it elsewhere offends you do me favour and hold your breath while I look for two damns to give

Re: Cafe & coffee

CTC Forum - On the road - 24 September 2014 - 10:49pm
reohn2 wrote:honesty wrote:Ask for filter coffee, its cheaper than even an Americano, and you get more.
And is more often than not stewed from being left in the jug.

Ah, you need to practice the art of turning up just as a new jug comes out
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