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Re: TOURING 2015

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 4 January 2015 - 1:09pm
Off to Thailand at end of Jan. One month in north, then to Malaysia to renew tourist card. Second month probably down south (in Thai) with a bit of beach.

In Sept probably off to Japan for a second look. Followed by a bit of SE Asia pre Christmas sun, err I mean pedalling.

Might even get the tent out for a short summer tour in the UK if weather OK.

Re: Crane River Parks Hounslow London

CTC Forum - On the road - 4 January 2015 - 1:07pm
I would think muggers get lean pickings at this time of year when it gets rather cold there and so few people use the route when its really dark as not to be worth the bother? It would be interesting to know if and how many instances of mugging happen. Certainly the few times I have ridden it in pitch dark I have not yet seen any lurkers, they would probably be dazzled by my front light any way. I have seen kids on occasion with their torches hanging out in Kneller park at the east end, after dark but they seem innocents.

The south gravel path is the nicest but only runs about 1/2 the length of the park. Yes you have to be careful of the bridges to avoid knocking your block off, but you can detour over the road and avoid them.

Re: Crane River Parks Hounslow London

CTC Forum - On the road - 4 January 2015 - 1:01pm
I may take a look one evening in the summer, I work in Hampton Wick quite often and always bring my bike with me when staying in hotels in the area.

Re: TOURING 2015

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 4 January 2015 - 12:58pm
Caen to Nice for me first two weeks in May 2915. Looking forward to it. I have to admit that itis a supported tour so no camping and no luggage to carry but a great route planned nevertheless. Includes part of the massif centrale and a trip up Ventoux.

Re: Crane River Parks Hounslow London

CTC Forum - On the road - 4 January 2015 - 12:35pm
I live nearby and have several times used the tarmaced path for parts of journeys between Twickenham and Feltham. I've never used the meandering gravel one.

There is a problem with very limited clearance under the two bridges near the Hospital Bridge roundabout.

While I have often ridden along this way in the dark, some local cyclists avoid it for fear of muggers. My own experience suggests that those fears are exagerated.

Re: Oh eck...its another one of those "What bike" questions.

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 4 January 2015 - 12:28pm
Just because there were a few Thorn recommendations here I wouldn't take them as the only option.

As I said I ride a Surly LHT. Ordered a frame from my local bike shop and then had it built using mainly Deore group set. Advantage was I got exactly what I wanted and if any problems then they are only down the road.

If you don't want to go down the bespoke option, there are still plenty of other bikes about. As said above have a good look around first. The Oxford Bike Company tourer looks good spec and value

Personally on my visit to SJS a few years ago I wasn't so impressed with staff or service.

Re: Anyone recommend any good books?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 4 January 2015 - 12:19pm
andrew_s wrote:Nicole Cooke's book is currently going for £2.50 on kindle
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Breakaway-Nicol ... 2&sr=1-101
I read the free sample bit.

Although she is clearly a very impressive character i must say that i found the ultra focussed approach to the narrative/achievements a bit wearing- I fear that racing cycling memoirs aren't my thing. I understand that later in the book she gives some folk in british cycling a good roasting. That may well be worth paying for.

Re: The Dangers of Road Debris

CTC Forum - On the road - 4 January 2015 - 12:04pm
I watched some of the TdF on telly last summer. I greatly admire the skills of the riders, being able to ride so close without (often) barging into each other. Even so, with all the benefits of freshly-minted roads and cars leading the way, when one goes down others usually follow.

This is a difference between hammer-down racing and my sedate style of utility riding: a fall on my fragile bones could easily be seriously bad news. Their style wouldn't suit me, and I wouldn't advocate it to anyone. But some people do it; it's a risk of their sport; who am I to argue?

I'm pleased the outcome was fairly minor, and the dangers of debris were captured so graphically.

Re: The Dangers of Road Debris

CTC Forum - On the road - 4 January 2015 - 12:01pm
Here's a thread gloating about a motorist getting nicked for tailgating, and this is a thread justifying it, if a motorist said "It's not my fault, it all happened too quickly" he'd get told to slow down or leave more room. Cyclists don't generally get nicked for slipstreaming, so that leaves them free to make their own decision: do they want the benefit of a slipstream, or do they want to reduce the risk of this happening. If a motorist said he wanted the benefit of a slipstream he'd be told to save it for the race track, but cyclists enjoy more freedom because they're only generally a danger to themselves and not other road users. (Although I wouldn't have wanted that bike through my windscreen.)

Leaving enough room for the vehicle in front to brake is not the same as leaving enough room to avoid a stationary object. Once when I was driving on the M6, a car in front of me suddenly swerved and left me staring straight at a six foot shipping crate standing in the middle of the fast lane. I swerved too, but there was no time to check the road was clear, I was just lucky that there was nobody to the left of me.

Re: Oh eck...its another one of those "What bike" questions.

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 4 January 2015 - 11:54am
Phil66 wrote:Morning folks,

Thanks for all the input, it’s interesting what others have said about the Tricross here and on the link Vantage posted. I don’t know an awful lot about bikes and ride on my own rather than in a group or club, so miss out on those opportunity’s to learn from others, but it seems others have suffered with the same poor gearing, weak wheels and horrible flex as I did on the Tricross. I thought it was just me or what bikes did! Really should get myself some more friends…..

So, at the moment the £1000ish budget is out the window and it looks like I need to book a day off work to get myself down to Bridgewater. Looks like it’s going to be a Thorn, just how good their sales people are depends on whether I come out with a Rohloff or not.

Thanks again everyone.
Swing by Exeter whilst you're in that neck of the woods, too - another "bombproof" World Tourer that might be an option to Surly and Thorn:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kona-Sutra-56 ... 3cef58a1d5

Re: Oh eck...its another one of those "What bike" questions.

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 4 January 2015 - 11:52am
Good choice Phill but as you have time on your hands I would seriously suggest checking 2nd hand Thorns 1st. you could save a packet.

If you're interested, pics of my Thorn are on my blog:

http://biker-waser.blogspot.co.uk/

all the best !

Bikerwaser.

Re: The Dangers of Road Debris

CTC Forum - On the road - 4 January 2015 - 11:50am
Tonyf33 wrote:Looking at it again..they are even more stupid than i thought, the roads were so quiet, the so called cycle lane narrows to little more than a gutter lane..what the hell where they thinking, and still, how the hell did they not see large chunks of 'stuff' in the lane and shoulder check and move out..As I said..newbs, all the gear & no idea..
Except that if it is a bicycle lane (it's not obvious to me that it is), they are legally obligated to use it, according to Australian law...
The rider of a bicycle riding on a length of road with a bicycle lane designed for bicycles travelling in the same direction as the rider must ride in the bicycle lane unless it is impracticable to do so.
from http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/sa/c ... /s247.html

Bike friendly hotels in Northern France?i

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 4 January 2015 - 11:48am
Am arranging a multi day group ride from Calais taking in the Somme, Arras, Ypres area and finishing in Bruges. Looking for advice on which hotels are bike friendly around Amiens and Ypres in particular.
It'll be quite a large group, maybe 16 or so.
Any advice welcome.............Thanks!

Re: TOURING 2015

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 4 January 2015 - 11:42am
Have you got Beeston in Cheshire on the list ?

Re: Oh eck...its another one of those "What bike" questions.

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 4 January 2015 - 11:38am
IMO if you're looking to go for a tough 26" wheel expedition quality tourer, the Surly LHT will be a match for anything from Thorn at a lot less money.
I'm a big Rohloff fan, my Rohloff bike gets used at least 80% of the time, despite having two other really nice derailleur bikes. But, to me it only makes any sort of economic sense if you intend to put a lot of miles on it. All things being equal, I'd choose a Rohloff every time, but I'd have no qualms about setting of on your tour with a decent derailleur set up either.

Re: Oh eck...its another one of those "What bike" questions.

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 4 January 2015 - 11:33am
Their sales people are excellent. Be prepared!

Re: Oh eck...its another one of those "What bike" questions.

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 4 January 2015 - 10:51am
Morning folks,

Thanks for all the input, it’s interesting what others have said about the Tricross here and on the link Vantage posted. I don’t know an awful lot about bikes and ride on my own rather than in a group or club, so miss out on those opportunity’s to learn from others, but it seems others have suffered with the same poor gearing, weak wheels and horrible flex as I did on the Tricross. I thought it was just me or what bikes did! Really should get myself some more friends…..

So, at the moment the £1000ish budget is out the window and it looks like I need to book a day off work to get myself down to Bridgewater. Looks like it’s going to be a Thorn, just how good their sales people are depends on whether I come out with a Rohloff or not.

Thanks again everyone.

Re: The Dangers of Road Debris

CTC Forum - On the road - 4 January 2015 - 10:38am
beardy wrote:Si wrote:beardy wrote:
Off hand only because I thought it totally obvious what the difference was. Obviously not so I shall explain. If there was more space between your friend and the car in front would it have given him more time to see and avoid the wheel? Answer: NO. If the rider had been further back from the vehicle in front (i.e. the camera cycle) would he have had more time to see and avoid the debris? Answer: YES. Therefore, if subjected to logical consideration, your example is irrelevant.

It is relevant because it shows that the debris moves and can even move far enough to cross a reservation and get you. Being close to the vehicle it comes off does not necessarily mean it will hit you, I have seen stuff bounce over the first cars and hit those further away. Also it shows that having a distance between the other vehicle, or even going in the other direction, will not guarantee your safety either.
I too believe this is totally obvious but I dont dismiss your arguments in an off hand way (out of politeness and a respect of the forum ethos).


The fact that debris can hit you from the other side of the road is not relevant to this case as i have already demonstrated. You might just as well state that if the crashed rider was wearing a bullet proof jacket then he would not be safe from being shot in the head - this is a perfectly true deduction but is totally irrelevant.

The bottom line is:
1. there was debris on the road (not falling off the vehicle in front)
2. the crashed rider rode through it.
- the question is: did he (a) choose to ride through it, or (b) did he ride through it because he saw it so late that he had no choice?
If (a) then it's pretty bad riding (same may be said for camera bike). If (b) then why did he see it so late? Perchance that it was because he was so close to the lead rider that his view was partially blocked. Of course, if you believe that riding at speed, on a road that you don't know to be clear, with reduced vision is as safe as riding at speed, on a road that you don't know to be clear, without reduced vision then you would probably agree that the crashed rider had not increased his risk by his actions, but I would hope that logic will win the day.

As for him not being in a 'tricky' situation.....do you not class being in a situation where you go flying over the bars to be a tad tricky?

And finally, regarding group riding. I would agree that in the vast majority of cases that nothing will go wrong, this is especially so if the group know what it is doing (if I'd been at the front I would have been looking up the road, would have issued a warning of debris nice and early, would then have told the group to slow and space out, would have slowed myself - but not so hard that the rider behind ran into me, and would have given the debris plenty of space). However, as has been said up thread....just because something might be rare that does not mean that the risk is not being increased or that one should not try to mitigate against it.

Re: Oh eck...its another one of those "What bike" questions.

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 4 January 2015 - 10:27am
if you buy a used , decent bike at the right price ( and you have the time to search for it ) then you can sell it after and will probably get very near what you paid.

so now the "up to £1000" you were thinking of could be more like a couple of hundred... if you do it right.

Re: Show your touring bikes !!!!

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 4 January 2015 - 10:23am
shane, that's brilliant, can't wait for the book
Happy adventures
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