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Re: LLC and Wales Questions

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 10 July 2015 - 5:26pm
I may end up taking a train from Bangor to Holyhead and then ride back (pending on what the weather is looking like).

Two weeks out from my cycling start (slightly less for my departure from the US). So getting a little bit nervous. Training hasn't been going well this last week - big thunder storms and rain here in the mountains. This weekend isn't looking good either but am going to do my best to do some 30 mile rides both days.

I will probably post my *finalized* route on here this weekend as well.

Re: CTC rides

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 July 2015 - 4:45pm
Another example of the blame culture that seems to have taken over.

Re: Age limits in city hostels now.

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 10 July 2015 - 4:12pm
In Oz I have seen hostels that say only people with backpacks. Presumably to stop (what they think as) normal tourists. I was never turned away with panniers.

I also saw a no Australians rule in some towns eg Surfers Paradise ie only foreigners. I believe this is the case in some UK hostels to stop the indigenous party crowd.

Lots of potential work for the anti discrimination lawyers.

Re: kids on bikes etc

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 July 2015 - 3:19pm


Fantastic.

Re: kids on bikes etc

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 July 2015 - 2:15pm
Clicked the link, facebook says no .

Re: Age limits in city hostels now.

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 10 July 2015 - 2:00pm
fossala wrote:What about over 55 holidays?
I suspect "over 55" is a description of the nature of the holiday rather than a rule. It is probably a self-fulfilling description without any need for a rule. Even people in the 55-59 age range don't want to go on them.

Re: CTC rides

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 July 2015 - 1:20pm
beardy wrote:I think with the increase in cycling which is good, there many new riders who don't have the cycling etiquette of riding in a group.

[...] I have ridden plenty of miles in unofficial groups on Audaxes and in my circles the warnings are saved for special cases, except for those who come from racing clubs. There is a pretty clear set of expectations in such racing clubs but they dont extend to all CTC groups, Audaxers or other riders.
I think most groups are pretty clear that we'll try to warn about the worst things, but you shouldn't count on it.

KLWNBUG had new-to-us riders on our one-hour ride last night. Because I was on the front, guiding, I gave a short ride briefing before setting off, despite a negative comment from a more experienced rider. I definitely included the key phrase like "ride as you should if you were on your own". I may also have said "this is not a race and if we get split up by a junction, we'll wait" although that's not on my script.

The crash in the opening post is because of riding too close, not because those in front failed to warn about a pothole. I've some sympathy, as I've suffered minor injury when I think a warning from in front would have avoided it, but the injury was due to drafting more closely/directly than was really safe.

As for the solicitors not calling back - yes, that's poor service. They should at least tell you there's not much chance of claiming off anyone unless the pothole has been reported and left unrepaired.

Re: Age limits in city hostels now.

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 10 July 2015 - 12:59pm
fossala wrote:honesty wrote:I would assume that wouldn't be legal as well. You are not allowed to discriminate based on age.
What about over 55 holidays?

I doubt any inbetweener has ever been on an over 55 hol by choice?

Re: Age limits in city hostels now.

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 10 July 2015 - 12:36pm
They do the same thing for children. My guess is that they are merely prioritising the common dormitories for people who are 16 - 40, which doesn't seem entirely unreasonable to me. It is, after all a *youth* hostel. It's a bit unfair to make someone over 40 book a room to him/her self, I think they should allow people the option of paying for a bed and not knowing who their roommate might be.


Many youth hostel organisations on the continent have some means to prioritise for youths. In Germany, some years ago, when I arrived without booking at a hostel that I believed would have space, I was told that people over 25 had to book in advance. I didn't see it as discrimination, I just went somewhere else.

Re: ITV4 Tour Coverage.

CTC Forum - Racing - 10 July 2015 - 12:25pm
Richard Fairhurst wrote:jochta wrote:Oh and his other two favourite words...

"attentive"
"nervousness"

And "years of age". No-one is ever 25 years old, they're "just 25 years of age".

But I still have fond childhood memories of "Charly Mottet's in all sorts of trouble" and "Laurent Fignon has sprouted wings", which dates me.
And he just has one of those voices. It's just a great commentating voice

EDIT: Sorry I meant Phil. Watching the coverage now. I'd never noticed the Paul's 'years of age' thing but, gosh, you're right.

Re: Age limits in city hostels now.

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 10 July 2015 - 12:06pm
An example from Brussels:

Age: Hello Hostel is a Youth Hostel.
Guests over 40 years old will have to book a whole private room (you have to book the 2 beds, even if you are alone).
Nevertheless, if you are 4 guest over 40 years old, we can accommodate you in a 4 bedded dorm.
https://hello-hostel.eu/f-a-q/

Another Brussels one:

Do you have an age limit to stay in your hostel?

Dorm rooms: age limit until 45.
Private rooms: no age limit!

http://www.2go4.be/quality/en/faq.asp

As you can see the policy varies in the FAQ at each hostel. If your also searching for one with vacancies it makes it harder as the booking engines don't want to know. I'm wondering if using a mobile phone and looking them up "in country" makes it worse.

Re: Age limits in city hostels now.

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 10 July 2015 - 12:03pm
I have no objections if this is based on the atmosphere of the hostel. If in the past there has been friction between party-goers and early risers and the hostels market is for the party-goers then it is in everybody's interests to exclude the early risers.

If it isnt illegal in those countries to make the lazy distinction based on age as being a proxy for such attitudes then it seems like a crude solution to the problem.

As a user of UK's YHA, I notice the other problem, a lack of the youth. Not entirely the YHA's fault but of society's youth protection issues. How on a person's eighteenth birthday they magically change from poor defenceless victim to potential paedophile. Then more complicated rules about various allowable age combinations making it quite difficult for youngsters to travel together using hostels.

Re: Age limits in city hostels now.

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 10 July 2015 - 11:57am
Ok, a quick google comes up with this: http://www.equalityadvisoryservice.com/ci/fattach/get/588/1354033540/redirect/1/session/L2F2LzEvdGltZS8xNDM2NTI1NTAwL3NpZC9vODRNQV9xbQ==/filename/financial-services.pdf
The Government wrote:The Government is bringing into force a ban on age discrimination in the provision of goods, facilities and services, the exercise of public functions, and the running of private clubs and other associations. The ban will be effective from 1 October 2012 when the relevant provisions contained in Part 3 of the Equality Act 2010 (the Equality Act) come into force.

And

The Government wrote:From 1 October 2012 the following are banned in the context of providing services:
• direct discrimination because of age, unless this can be objectively justified. Direct age discrimination is where someone is unfairly treated differently in comparison with another on the basis of age. Objective justification is being able to show that the discrimination is a proportionate means of achieving a legitimate end

So, over 55's holidays you could probably objectively justify. Not sure you could for hostels.

Obviously UK law, but would assume there's something similar in the EU.

Re: ITV4 Tour Coverage.

CTC Forum - Racing - 10 July 2015 - 11:39am
old_windbag wrote:A couple of years back Matt Baker announced on the One Show "brilliant news that Chris Froome is in yellow" yet the highlights hadn't been broadcast, thoughtless and selfish. But he is an over exitable fool at times.... or all of the time .
And working for a rival broadcaster... all's fair when it comes to trashing others' viewing figures.

I see BBC Radio 5 Live Sports Xtra is YET AGAIN preferring to simulcast Radio 4 Long Wave's Test Match Special instead of the Tour de France commentary. If they really must have TMS on digital services, why don't they put one broadcast on whatever channel they used for the short-term Eurovision channel? Or maybe actually use 5 Live for live sport instead of film reviews and other not-really-time-sensitive shows?

So I'm using a pico-transmitter to put itv4's audio onto FM around the house. Thanks again itv...

Re: ITV4 Tour Coverage.

CTC Forum - Racing - 10 July 2015 - 11:32am
jochta wrote:Oh and his other two favourite words...

"attentive"
"nervousness"

And "years of age". No-one is ever 25 years old, they're "just 25 years of age".

But I still have fond childhood memories of "Charly Mottet's in all sorts of trouble" and "Laurent Fignon has sprouted wings", which dates me.

Re: ITV4 Tour Coverage.

CTC Forum - Racing - 10 July 2015 - 11:26am
Well thats good news..... and bad. I like to series record but recording the next programme will mean single record due to every day having a different following programme. But at least its sortable to some extent... the hummy is pretty flexible in it's recording options.

What could be worse for all of us would be to record the live programme and then find something like escape to the country . Boy do those smug couples put my BP up, I'm wanting a gun just thinking about them .

On the subject of sports coverage in general I wrote an email of complaint to the BBC about their constant placing of sports results in their digital text news headlines. They would and still do put things like "Froome in yellow jersey", "Hamilton wins in monaco", "Arsenal 3- Man utd 0" etc on main news headlines section. I advised them not to spoil viewers entertainment by doing this and to put those in Sports Headlines so people can view the news but avoid sports headlines until they viewed their event, common courtesy. With F1 they put the headline up within a minute of the result... pretty disrespectful in these days of delayed viewing. To me its common sense to keep news ( i.e. man shot in kebab shop ) and sports news separate. The BBC responded that they have a duty to report news events whatever category they fall into... which was not in question so I knew I wasn't dealing with a full deck, common sense is no longer common.... unfortunately.

A couple of years back Matt Baker announced on the One Show "brilliant news that Chris Froome is in yellow" yet the highlights hadn't been broadcast, thoughtless and selfish. But he is an over excitable fool at times.... or all of the time .

Re: CTC rides

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 July 2015 - 11:22am
I think with the increase in cycling which is good, there many new riders who don't have the cycling etiquette of riding in a group.

You are probably right there.

As far as I am concerned when I ride in the company of others it is my responsibility to look where I am going and not to ride into the back of others either. Any warning from those in front is a bonus but sometimes I do find the more zealous ones a bit amusing as they point out every tiny road defect, I dont expect somebody to have to take their hands off the bars at a critical moment for my benefit.
In fact I dont expect them to take any responsibility for the person behind, though I could say there was a case of liability if they deliberately lured somebody into a trap.

I have ridden plenty of miles in unofficial groups on Audaxes and in my circles the warnings are saved for special cases, except for those who come from racing clubs. There is a pretty clear set of expectations in such racing clubs but they dont extend to all CTC groups, Audaxers or other riders.

Re: Age limits in city hostels now.

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 10 July 2015 - 11:17am
honesty wrote:I would assume that wouldn't be legal as well. You are not allowed to discriminate based on age.
What about over 55 holidays?
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