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Re: la vuelta 2015 Kicks Off On Sat 22nd Aug ITV4

CTC Forum - Racing - 13 August 2015 - 10:26pm
It won't be Contador!

Live daily on Eurosport, usually about 3pm but later on the first weekend. They've also the USA challenge.

Re: Does the public detest cyclists?

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2015 - 10:26pm
I live close to BoxHill and there is a very strong anti cyclist attitude around here. We have had drawing pins in the road on a number of occasions and saying you are a cyclist brings on all the anti comments.
My ride today up Box Hill was pleasant and no issues but at the weekend both drivers and cyclists are very aggressive at times.
The Un regulated sportive so seem to cause the most hassle as psuedo racers take too many chances.
Sadly locals are moving to stop the Ride London race and charity ride which I hope never happens as the race is great, not sure about the other event as I do not watch or partake but peace and quiet for one day a year causes us no problems.

Re: Pedestrians' view of bells ?

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2015 - 9:59pm
Manc33 wrote:I always feel cheeky/silly ringing a bell. I would rather shout "bike coming through" or something.

Or , more usefully "passing on your right". (ie no need to react, just don't suddenly go right).

Revolution series in Derby

CTC Forum - Racing - 13 August 2015 - 8:23pm
Maybe I have missed it but is the series on TV.
Looks like a good series with top names.

Re: New overtaking video

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2015 - 8:01pm
reohn2 wrote:Bonefishblues wrote:OK, remember "robust"!

You'll see a couple of obvious trolls in action, too.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?
h=0&f=23&t=1534249&mid=52319&nmt=How+to+overtake+cyclists+video

I got to page 4(honest),and I really can't believe the pettiness on there by some of those people,I don't know how you put up with it .
It does get silly on occasions I agree, at which point I unfollow the thread, and the issues around cycling seem to light the blue touch paper, however by and large it's populated with thoughtful people who share (many!) Common interests.

I guess I linked it as an example of the thought that some/many/most? drivers give the issue, too.

There's a salutory thread from a contributor about his offence and subsequent jail term after his causing a life-changing accident whilst driving which I'm willing to get has caused more behavioural change than most interventions, for instance.

All in all an interesting place to spend time as long as the idiots don't prevail.

Re: Cycle across the Himalayas - tell me what I need to know

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 August 2015 - 7:43pm
The other place that's worth checking for info is the lonely planet forum
https://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/ ... asia/tibet

Re: la vuelta 2015 Kicks Off On Sat 22nd Aug ITV4

CTC Forum - Racing - 13 August 2015 - 7:41pm
yes, looking forward to this after efforts put in at TdF and Giro. Who's going to win?

Re: Follow my leader

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2015 - 7:19pm
Not starting to drive until I was nearer to 50 than 40 I can still remember my instructor warning against blindly following the vehicle in front when overtaking.

Re: New overtaking video

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2015 - 7:05pm
Psamathe wrote:ChrisButch wrote:Most of the argument on that thread concerns the interpretation of the 'half a car's width' or 'as much space as you would give a car' injunctions, and their variants. Correctly, in my view, they're criticised as ambiguous: and several posters point out that one driver's comfortable clearance space when overtaking another car is another driver's dangerous near miss. It would be much better, as is the norm in France and elsewhere, to specify a distance.
Heartening that most of the contributors clearly want to get it right.
What often strikes me as unnecessary on a lot of two way roads is that the car has to pull out to block the oncoming direction even to have a close pass. So if the driver is having to ensure no oncoming traffic and using the oncoming lane, why not pull across decently - oncoming vehicles are a problem pulling out inadequate distance or giving a decent clearance.

Does not help with regard to clearance guidance but you get these close passes and the driver has moved half way across the oncoming lane - so why not go decently across !!

Ian
On my last two rides I've had close passes where that's been the case,I've also had two where the oncoming driver has had to do an ES so as not to cause either a head on,or the car overtaking me swerving into me.
These people are a dangerous menace on our roads.

Re: New overtaking video

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2015 - 6:52pm
ChrisButch wrote:Most of the argument on that thread concerns the interpretation of the 'half a car's width' or 'as much space as you would give a car' injunctions, and their variants. Correctly, in my view, they're criticised as ambiguous: and several posters point out that one driver's comfortable clearance space when overtaking another car is another driver's dangerous near miss. It would be much better, as is the norm in France and elsewhere, to specify a distance.
Heartening that most of the contributors clearly want to get it right.
What often strikes me as unnecessary on a lot of two way roads is that the car has to pull out to block the oncoming direction even to have a close pass. So if the driver is having to ensure no oncoming traffic and using the oncoming lane, why not pull across decently - oncoming vehicles are a problem pulling out inadequate distance or giving a decent clearance.

Does not help with regard to clearance guidance but you get these close passes and the driver has moved half way across the oncoming lane - so why not go decently across !!

Ian

Re: New overtaking video

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2015 - 6:40pm
Bonefishblues wrote:OK, remember "robust"!

You'll see a couple of obvious trolls in action, too.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?
h=0&f=23&t=1534249&mid=52319&nmt=How+to+overtake+cyclists+video

I got to page 4(honest),and I really can't believe the pettiness on there by some of those people,I don't know how you put up with it .

Re: New overtaking video

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2015 - 6:19pm
Most of the argument on that thread concerns the interpretation of the 'half a car's width' or 'as much space as you would give a car' injunctions, and their variants. Correctly, in my view, they're criticised as ambiguous: and several posters point out that one driver's comfortable clearance space when overtaking another car is another driver's dangerous near miss. It would be much better, as is the norm in France and elsewhere, to specify a distance.
Heartening that most of the contributors clearly want to get it right.

Re: What's your top weight saving tip for touring?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 August 2015 - 6:12pm
If you read it slowly enough (take a pretty boring book), you can use the pages your tear out as toilet paper. Which you can't do with a Kindle.

Re: Gwynedd CC proposal to close Barmouth Bridge to cyclists

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 August 2015 - 4:28pm
Scope here for a huge public relations gain by Network Rail.

Re: No longer fashionable to say Hello?

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2015 - 3:52pm
Out in the lanes I say hello, or nod, etc. but in town there's too many other things to concentrate on, and there are too many cyclists!

Re: New overtaking video

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2015 - 3:48pm
Have to agree. Most pistonheads I know are actually very good, responsible drivers (though probably faster than acceptable). The problem is the majority who arent interested, who see a car as a comfy seat to get from A to B and see this as an inalienable right to do so. These are the people who dont understand "road tax" and so on. That being said it trickles down - just very slowly.

Re: No longer fashionable to say Hello?

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2015 - 3:46pm
I regularly see a cyclist on audax events. Each time I see him in a hall I say hello. Invariably I get a silent stare.
Most cyclists will acknowledge another - this may depend on you being the "right" kind of cyclist .
I'm guilty sometimes of not acknowledging a greeting if I'm otherwise distracted.

Re: New overtaking video

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2015 - 3:44pm
Many years ago I was an avid reader and poster on pistonheads.com, although I hadn't seen it for ages until this link. I was a member of the TVR group, driving a Griffith 500 and later a Chimeara. I was also a cyclist of course. I found that most posters were enthusiasts who did their driving responsibly, so I'm not surprised by many of the comments on there now. The real problem is motorists who actually take no interest in their driving, and there are plenty of those.

Re: Does the public detest cyclists?

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2015 - 3:12pm
Its true that anti cycling sentiment exists in London, all the usual suspects, especially taxi drivers, bus drivers, white van man. But WHY?
Most cyclists are also drivers (I read recently that 80% of cyclists also own a car). So presumably the anti sentiment is restricted to a proportion of those that don't cycle.
Taking London as an example again. There has recently been a large increase in commuting by scooter (motor scooter not the children's toy). I haven't noticed any anti scooter sentiment despite the fact that scooters are also 2 wheeled and carve through traffic jams like bicycles.
It can't be the road tax argument, most scooters only pay a trifling £17 pa. They also push to the front at the lights and generally exhibit a lot of similarity to bicycles in road behaviour albeit they go faster.
Its true that scooters RLJ a lot less than bicycles and rarely jump on and off pavements (though I have seen this a few times).
I give the example of the contrast in the way that cyclists and scooter riders are precieved in an attempt to identify why cyclists are vilified.
Surely there must be more to it than just RLJing?
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