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Re: Ten Miles a Day

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2014 - 2:06pm
Well I am hovering at 13m/day and I am not sure If I will improve on it that much, ride today puts me down to 79 % Max HR so winter is coming

Re: Devon C2C

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 August 2014 - 2:02pm
On honesty's map showing a short cut below peter tavy which goes from the A386 above Tavistock to the cross roads at Moor Shop B3357, Tavistock to Princetown road.
I got this wrong I was thinking of the short cut that goes east of peter tavy which leads to Lower Godsworthy and linked to Higher Godsworthy via a farm track which is actually a bridle path on the map but you could easily drive your car along it it.
This short cut avoiding Tavistock honesty's route and mine further east which brings you out on Pork hill 2/3rds of the way up.
Its out of the way for a c2c ride and is actually (mine) a rather adventurous hilly ball breaking detour , sorry to confuse.
I need also to check the other part, well I have, and mentioned an off road bit between Mary tavy & Peter Tavy this also is one of my gravel track routes which I often use as it more interesting, I dont think that it is on the route at all sorry again.
Anyone wanting an adventure may like to use the bridle path between Mary and Peter Tavy going south and at the end is a Pub
The godsworthy route is also a bridle path but a wide track, both you can do on a road bike in the dry with say 32 mm tyres and I have seen road bikes on the Mary tavy bridle path which makes me remember the horrified riders who were blastpheming that it was a cycle route
I need to check that part again............

To do the C2C your need 32 mm at a minimum if you plan the Tarka & Drakes trails I.M.O. as I have done it on 37's and it was a bit bumpy, though I was traveling faster than your usually sunday riders
Mick F would probably be ejected out of his brooks If he did the Tarka or even Clearbrook part of Drakes trail

Re: Cyclist dies on Surrey 100

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2014 - 1:47pm
TonyR wrote:Twelve young people die suddenly each week through cardiac problems that can be easily diagnosed.

They can be easily diagnosed, yes - once you think to look. An ECG at our GP's place costs around 75€, enough to put off most casual demands (OK, you get it back from the Social Security, but still). And someone who's felt healthy all his life would hardly think of asking.

In 2007 I did a 1000k Audax with a climb up the Tourmalet followed by PBP, and a month later did my best ever time up the Ventoux. In November I had a stress test that picked up a constricted artery, later fixed with a stent. I had been planning to do LEL in 2008: the cardiologist cheerily informed me that undiagnosed I'd probably have died doing it. Last year the doc who looks after my gammy ankles keeled over with cardiac arrest at a family gathering: if his wife hadn't been an anaesthetist and known what do he'd have been out of it. He was a veteran 100 cols rider whose idea of a holiday was to ride the Pyrenees one end to the other.

Re: Cyclist dies on Surrey 100

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2014 - 1:22pm
If it's ECG levels of simplicity then it would only take a day or so to do a whole school year at most schools - well worth it.

From: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... _in_uk_200

It appears that there are about 800k children of any given age (assume low mortality and balanced migration).
We'd therefore be screening 800k people, assuming we pick up 12 that's a terribly low percentage.
What's the false positive rate? False negative?

Re: Cyclist dies on Surrey 100

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2014 - 1:00pm
Ayesha wrote:Should there be 'qualifiers' for large over-subscibed Sportive and charity rides?
Like letters of reference from Club secretaries, or a recent Audax medal?

How do the organisers know the entry is capable of finishing? Or do they care?

This is a much bigger issue than this event. Twelve young people die suddenly each week through cardiac problems that can be easily diagnosed. Before our kids took up sport seriously we had them CRY screened and got the all clear but you have to pay for it. There should be much better availability of screening for all school kids - its as easy as having an ECG taken.

For the event itself its very difficult for the organisers to do anything other than offer advice and the risk is very low - about a 1 in 80,000 probability

Re: Ten Miles a Day

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2014 - 12:50pm
No miles over the weekend. Marshalled at an Audax.

Average down below 24 now at 23.9

Clee to heaven Audax on Saturday though, which should get me back over 24.

Re: 'Cyclists Dismount', should we?

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2014 - 12:44pm
IIRC, a rectangular sign is an ‘Information’ sign.

The sign in question informs the cyclist it would be a good idea to dismount, so avoiding collision with a pedestrian, perambulator or tartan shopping trolley.
When there are no pedestrians, perambulators or tartan shopping trollies, there is no reason to follow the sign’s suggestion.

They are a product of the golden ‘Job’sworth’ capped council street planning officer.

Any semi to high intelligent cyclist will know not to ride into a pedestrian, perambulator or tartan shopping trolley.

Re: Cyclist dies on Surrey 100

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2014 - 12:42pm
I remember doing some fag packet maths based on the number of runners in marathons and the number of deaths running them.
Whilst it was rough and ready the conclusion I came to was that the number of deaths was proportionally less than the number who died not running (and by a decent factor iirc).
Which meant you were safer running a marathon.

Be interesting to plug some 'proper' numbers in and see if this is actually true.

Re: Cyclist dies on Surrey 100

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2014 - 12:36pm
Given that many people build up to these rides as a target or sign themselves up as a challenge, requiring previous experience of riding that distance might be counter-productive.

Re: Cyclist dies on Surrey 100

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2014 - 12:27pm
Colin_P wrote:The thing that gets me about this case though is the time it took to get a defib on the scene.

Its not clear that that would have made any difference:

"Cardiac rapid response units and the use of portable defibrillators have contributed to the survival of many people who have collapsed with ventricular fibrillation. However, in cases of sudden cardiac death, the heart appears to be resistant to attempts at resuscitation using methods based on current knowledge. Early defibrillation in these cases rarely results in survival."

Re: Wild camping with permission

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 August 2014 - 12:24pm
It's mostly just common sence - just stay out of peoples way, leave early/pitch up after dark etc. You mentioned village pubs - play it by ear, but if you spend some money on a couple of pints and/or a meal, they're often happy to let you use the beer garden after closing if you ask.

I never had a problem in the Brecons when I've wild camped, but there's spots were they have issues with fires and people BBQing out of the back of their boot and you might encounter rangers.

Re: Wild camping with permission

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 August 2014 - 11:46am
I think it's implicitly recognised that finding someone to ask when you're in the uplands is not always practical. However I think it's funny when you sometimes see a bright orange tent on the other side of the valley, positioned so it's quite well hidden from view from around fifty or a hundred yards away, but blindingly obvious from 3 miles away. The other thing I'd note is not being near unenclosed livestock, firstly cows especially might take a disconcerting interest in you/your tent and secondly farmers will definitely not like it.

Re: Tour de Manche Mapping (St Malo-Roscoff)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 August 2014 - 11:23am
Thanks for the feedback Interesting - might be tempted myself as going Portsmouth/Caen next month...
The folk that posted about the St Malo / Dinard ferry will be heartened by the news that there's no steps, too!

Re: Cyclist dies on Surrey 100

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2014 - 10:45am
It does, s**t sadly happens.

There is no real solution.

I am in the lucky 5% to have survived one so it is an issue very close to me.

Until it happens quite often there is nothing that would indicate it would.

Prior to mine, I always had a very good set of stats, blood pressure, heart function and resting heart rate. I was in good shape and there were no indications of what was to happen.

This goes for countless cases of this, seemingly fit healthy people keeling over out of the blue with no previous indications. Ironically a lot of super fit athletes, especially long distance ones are putting themselves at risk of atrial fibrillation. AF itself though is not immediately dangerous but can quickly degenerate to become something worse. All those aging willowy elite cyclists who boast of very low resting heart rates are particularly at risk but probably do not realise it. Probably one or two on here in fact.

The thing that gets me about this case though is the time it took to get a defib on the scene.

Re: Scotland Tour !

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 August 2014 - 10:15am
Realistic? Definitely. I'm starting my first tour this Thursday morning. If I can do it anyone can so get planning.
Every last drop of advice you'll ever need is covered in this forum (admittedly it takes a while to find it all), the Travelling Two book and site and general tinterweb.
Dunno about prevailing wind direction. I have a 20 mile loop I like to ride regularly but every time I do it, I somehow have a headwind on both the outbound and return journeys. Go figure.
Good luck

Re: Quick poll: Your touring accomm - tent, hostel, hotel?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 August 2014 - 10:12am
About 20+ nights a year camping.

Re: Scotland Tour !

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 August 2014 - 9:51am
I set off last May to do a tour from Fort William to Skye then up the west coast to Cape Wrath, Tongue and then back...but really bad weather and a non-improving 5-day forecast made me switch plans whilst in Portree. I was camping and had plans to camp everywhere so that is easily possible. Due to better weather on the east coast I went from Portree to Inverness and then followed the coastline round to Aberdeen, St Andrews, Edinburgh and then made my way back to N Manchester (where my car was parked at my parents).

Having done the Outer Hebrides on a previous occasion I know it is also possible to get there from Skye and there are plenty of campsites (or wild camping) and perhaps back to Ullapool then Fort William. Ferry price for a Scotch Hopper is very reasonable. September is a good time to go - there will still be a few midges around and the weather will hit and miss, but I prefer September (or May) for Scotland.

Whilst there are prevailing winds - I've had head winds or tail winds in all directions!

Re: Bonnet surfing

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2014 - 9:50am
Postboxer wrote:I think most of the people on here would agree there needs to be more convictions for driving offences and that the penalties should be more severe.

For this sort of act, I'm all for bringing back public stoning.
I'm glad the lunatic got something though.

Re: Dealing with mosquitos

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 August 2014 - 8:37am
Its pretty much better now, got bitten 2 nights ago when staying at a hostel as it was too hot to leave windows closed (32celcius at midnight!!!) was a little itchy the next day and then overnight puffed up, went to doctors yesterday morning and they just gave me stronger antihistamines which I took one of rather than 2 and it was basically gone by the end of the day. I've had almost exactly the same bite and reaction in Mexico in Feb and that one went down exactly the same so I'm not convinced the antihistamines actually made any difference xD

Re: Cyclist dies on Surrey 100

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2014 - 7:55am
Colin_P wrote:Sudden Cardiac arrest.

I've suffered a few myself and am one of the lucky 5% to survive the first one.

It makes my mind boggle that on such a large sporting event they didn't seemingly have proper emergency medical facilities. For anything like this there should be an AED available or even several along the route. An AED is an Automatic External Defibrillator.

Kris Cook might well be alive today if those treating him had access to one.

Rest in peace Kris.

On a 100 mike route to be sure of having an AED (and people who know how to operate one) within life-saving distance of every rider could require an awful lot of them.

Sometimes [inappropriate word removed] happens.
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