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Re: What is gr8 about motorcycling?

CTC Forum - On the road - 16 April 2015 - 10:49am
kwackers wrote:If you want to make it debatable

Well It's probably inherent in this thread. But I won't be debating it though: I have virtually no experience of motorbikes. The closest I came was a toss-up between a motorbike for two (me + a passenger) and a Citroen 2CV. The 2CV won but the choice was never between a motorbike and a bicycle.

So I'm left with just my general impressions and surmises: for me the dividing line is power. That's why I'm a bit concerned (intellectually) about electric assist - it blurs the line.

I'm open to and interested in people's views on here, those that say the motorcycle experience is closer to that of a cycle than a car but I put both cars and motorbikes on the other side of a line from bicycles. But that may be as much a reflection of my views on pollution etc rather than the riding experience itself.

Re: Tolerance of heat and cold.

CTC Forum - On the road - 16 April 2015 - 10:42am
Ah yes. Brown Adipose Tissue. It burns fat, keeps you warm and thin. G - perhaps this is why your diet works so well for you - you've got lots of BAT? I believe during the war workers in munitions factories were in contact with chemicals that stimulated the body's production of it and the became emaciated.

Re: Tolerance of heat and cold.

CTC Forum - On the road - 16 April 2015 - 10:36am
Many years ago, we lived in the east of Scotland. We were there for over six years, and in Jan 1980 we moved south to near Plymouth. The following day we went shopping and it was a glorious January day. We drove to the carpark near the shops and didn't bother with coats.

We were amazed that all the shoppers were wearing thick coats and looked freezing cold, whilst we thought it was nice and warm.

Re: I Got Nudged

CTC Forum - On the road - 16 April 2015 - 10:30am
Everything Bicycler says about our attitudes to infirm elderly drivers fits with my own thoughts and experiences. As relatives and friends, or as near-victims, we should do what we can to get them off the road when they are no longer able to drive safely. But when I was nudged by a car I reacted immediately with a rush of anger and loud shouting, then I saw the elderly man behind the wheel. He looked confused and afraid, and I regretted that I had shouted quite so angrily. Logically I had behaved well, but when you find the recipient of your outburst is so frail you don't feel good about yourself.

Re: I Got Nudged

CTC Forum - On the road - 16 April 2015 - 10:22am
That's one of my pet hates. Drivers don't stop at a give way they are constantly edging forward. Like somehow if they don't come to a complete stop that's faster?

Main issue is when I'm cycling past I can see their wheels moving so I don't know if they are just edging or if they haven't seen me and are starting to pull out.

Re: I Got Nudged

CTC Forum - On the road - 16 April 2015 - 10:15am
Ah, the attitude to elderly drivers no longer able to drive competently. No-one wants to deprive a pensioner of their transport do they? Incidents which should raise everyone's attention to the danger are turned a blind eye. Vision requirements are unenforced but then they aren't going very fast or very far and only in daylight so it's okay. This just seems the right thing to do until....
...someone gets hurt or killed and then the question is "why wasn't he stopped from driving?" I remember my granddad's driving in his later years from when I was a child. My mum insisted I walk home rather than accept a lift. If I get to the point where I don't trust my dad to drive he won't be driving unless a doctor tells me he is fit and I would notify the DVLA if I thought he might be inclined to do so. I don't want innocent people hurt and I don't want his final years scarred by the memory and guilt of causing a horrific incident.

As ever with driver licensing it is a privilege, not a right and it must be dependent upon meeting all the criteria to be able to safely operate the vehicle. A tonne of metal hurts as much when it hits you regardless of the age of the driver. We cannot have lower standards for the elderly.

Re: Tolerance of heat and cold.

CTC Forum - On the road - 16 April 2015 - 9:48am
Yes of course. You adapt to the situation you are in.

I was cycling in Mallorca last October. It was 8am the sun was hardly up and I was out in shorts and short sleeves. I was completely roasted, sweating a lot and struggling for power.

On the way back there was a sportive starting in town. Most of the riders had arm and leg warmers on. They thought it was chilly when I was dying in the heat.

Re: What is gr8 about motorcycling?

CTC Forum - On the road - 16 April 2015 - 9:32am
horizon wrote:bikes than between motorbikes and cars. Now that is debatable, I admit.
Is it?

It's a powered bicycle. No different than an assisted bicycle and we discuss those all the time. The physics and dynamics are the same, the problems very similar the only real difference is how rules are applied.

If you want to make it debatable then you'd need to remove assisted bicycles from the bicycle genre because as long as they're there then motorcycles are simply the next evolutionary step and as fast electric bicycles appear along with electric motorcycles then it's a very blurry line with no clear delineation.

Cars on the other hand have almost nothing in common with motorcycles.

Re: What is gr8 about motorcycling?

CTC Forum - On the road - 16 April 2015 - 9:25am
I'm an ex-motorcyclist, in the sense that I sold my last bike in Aug 2013 and have no intention of buying another. I had always done a fair few commuting miles on the bike but just wasn't doing enough to warrant keeping it.

On club runs we occasionally go to the Manor Cafe http://www.manor-cafe.co.uk/ - which caters to motorcyclists riding in the Dales and I think the main difference between motorcyclists and cyclists is size. I'm always faintly amused to see this crew of mainly rake-thin, lyrca-clad cyclists compared to mainly overweight bikers garbed in leather and kevlar. You also notice differences like cyclists don't wear moustaches, bikers seem to be more likely to have them than the general population and I'd generally say we (as a group) are louder than bikers - though our group can be bigger than any other single bunch in this cafe dedicated to petrol and kneesliders.

Re: People who have cycled the Pamir Highway...

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 16 April 2015 - 8:57am
Wow - Kieran, thanks so much.

Really got me looking forward to this trip now, absolutely can't wait.

Thanks so much for your reply.

Re: Touring bike choice for people with long legs

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 16 April 2015 - 8:56am
There are other alternatives than just drops or straights...

I have trekking (butterfly) bars on one of my bikes. There are also the north road and bull horn type bars. A conversion fro straights to north road bars, would also have the effect of shortening the reach, and making your position on the bike more upright.

Re: Coast & Castles - Recommended sights & tea shops?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 16 April 2015 - 8:37am
The Drift cafe just outside (north) of Cresswell on Northumberland coast at the southern end of Druridge Bay.

Re: Touring bike choice for people with long legs

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 16 April 2015 - 8:36am
Having the saddle forward (sitting on top of the pedals) with a long stem throws weight onto your hands. Its a popular position with racing cyclists because they can get down low for aero benefits, and they are pedalling hard enough for the "equal and opposite" reaction force to support their torso. Lots of people complain of sore shoulders, wrists, etc because they have too much weight on their hands, but if you can do it, its obviously OK for you. (I'm 10 years older than you .)

Traditional touring geo. with longer seat and head tubes is the other way of saying traditional touring geo. with a short top tube... ....like my old black bike pictured here http://forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=95724&hilit=black&start=60

Re: I Got Nudged

CTC Forum - On the road - 16 April 2015 - 8:17am
Exactamondo.

Re: What is gr8 about motorcycling?

CTC Forum - On the road - 16 April 2015 - 7:12am
horizon wrote:I don't think this question belongs on a cycling forum. I do not see why not. Every couple of months we get a thread along the lines of "which car to carry my bike?". How about "Which motorcycle to carry your bike, or, how do you carry your bike on a motorcycle?". For the record, I've not done this since 1978 on a Honda K4 250 (last of the drum brake ones).

Re: What is gr8 about motorcycling?

CTC Forum - On the road - 16 April 2015 - 1:19am
This one could run and run!

Re: I Got Nudged

CTC Forum - On the road - 15 April 2015 - 10:49pm
It won't - it will allow for a prosecution though, or for an insurance claim...

Re: People who have cycled the Pamir Highway...

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 April 2015 - 10:06pm
Just a few photos to get you in the mood.

Re: What is gr8 about motorcycling?

CTC Forum - On the road - 15 April 2015 - 9:48pm
horizon wrote:I don't think this question belongs on a cycling forum. Motorcycles have something that cars don't. But much more importantly, they are more like cars than they are like cycles.

It may appear that way to an observer but to those participating the similarity is more with the cycle.

Re: Disappointing For Cyclists in Radstock

CTC Forum - On the road - 15 April 2015 - 9:10pm
Good stuff Elizabethsdad. I do the school run on a Surly Big Dummy. It is pretty nimble even with a stoker bar for said 15 kilo daughter who is perched on a sheepskin and has her scooter strapped to the rear part of the rack. Cargo bikes are the future [emoji573]

Vorpal thanks for the contact who I've emailed. He's about 15 miles up the NCN 24 drag from me so I'm hoping he may feel proprietorial about it. Cross fingers...b
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