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Re: ITV4 Tour Coverage.

CTC Forum - Racing - 15 July 2015 - 11:33pm
landsurfer wrote:Could we please return to the lifting theme of the 1983 coverage. The bloody awful squeeze box, false France tune is annoying in the extreme!!!

I have the original Channel 4 Tour theme as my mobile ring tone. I downloaded it from YouTube some years ago (it's no longer there). It was part of a clip sequence with snips of commentary which I edited out. It's a great tune and I look forward to someone ringing me!

Re: Reading to Paris

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 July 2015 - 11:24pm
Thanks guys. The route I've planned so far is 125 miles from LH to Paris, so 60 miles a day should be doable. Reading to PM is 47 miles, again very much doable. We will (3 of us) need to do much more planning between now and then and no doubt the route will change. We also have a support driver offering his help, albeit he'll be using my estate car, so we'll have loads of room for kit. This way we can also take a 6 man done tent and basic camping gear for total self sufficiency. Water and food will be carried onboard. We can then come back by car as I have roof bars for the bikes.
If anyone has a tried and tested route from LH that would be a big bonus.
Kind regards

Re: my altercation

CTC Forum - On the road - 15 July 2015 - 11:17pm
This is what I'm using Ion Air with wi-fi transmission so you can send the video footage straight to your phone/laptop without any direct connection.
Run time is approx 3 hours

Re: Bike packing versus conventional touring.

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 July 2015 - 10:32pm
you really need to read this
Then this
i try to tour as light as possible. I'm not particularly overweight but I am heavy. I'm happy with that as Cycling is not all of me. I enjoy weight training a lot, which means carrying upper muscle that is useless on the bike, but I want to keep it. Light road bikes are fun to ride and I've toured on one with panniers and camping gear. I can't remember thinking that I was uncomfortable though I stuck a Brooks saddle on it and bigger tyres. It had a stiff aluminium frame but it was fine. And fun. If I had to stick with one bike it would probably be a light road bike.

Re: LLC and Wales Questions

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 July 2015 - 9:25pm
I would love to think so, but my financial situation isn't going to improve anytime soon and then before you know it, I'll be 40! Certainly much harder for me to get fit. Ideally I need to lose 20 or so pounds (get down to around 160) in which case I'd consider myself fit and not lugging around an extra tire or two. A may do a local Rockie Moutain tour next summer...but the climbing involved in the dry heat and carrying camping gear makes me wonder if its feasible.

Re: LLC and Wales Questions

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 July 2015 - 8:43pm
At the age of 30, I would have said that you have many more years of touring left in you.

Re: car hire v train prices

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 July 2015 - 8:16pm
tyreon wrote:Onto train: no signage and no help from guard as to where to load the bikes...we just have to enter the train anywhere. Are we in the correct department for bikes?Make sure the train doesn't leave: GET ON THE TRAIN! On the train we try to 'park the bikes',no sign or help of storage. On the Alton Towers ride(better than Dreamlands rollercoaster)the bikes smash over x2. The on and offcoming passengers do well to clamber over/around the commando obstacles(bicycles)
That's odd. Portsmouth-London services are usually operated by white livery Desiro units. The bicycle store is marked by a bicycle symbol in orange on the dark blue panel next to the door. You can just about see it on https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... 444031.jpg if you zoom in. There might be a clearer picture somewhere on commons.

Sorry for forgetting to mention needing to take straps to secure the bikes. As far as I know, only Greater Anglia provide such straps and that's only for the official limit of two bikes per store when six fit in comfortably. But you need such straps when transporting the bikes by car, too, so I just assumed... oops!

It's a shame that you got an unhelpful ticket seller at the first station, but after that, it seems like you made your own problems.

Similarly, Waterloo to St Pancras is fairly simple and I think it's signposted. Yes, it's busy and chaotic, even if you stick to the cycle routes, but that's a capital city, isn't it?

Re: car hire v train prices

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 July 2015 - 7:46pm
National Express Coach from Portsmouth Ferry Terminal to Victoria Coach Station SH030, then another from Victoria to Leicester NX440. Price £32.
But your bike will need to be bagged.

France CTC rides in gpx format

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 July 2015 - 7:30pm
Does anyone know where I can obtain the various touring holidays that the CTC run in gpx format to download onto my Garmin? I quite fancy having a go at some of the sections.

Re: How limiting is a rigid bike?

CTC Forum - MTB - 15 July 2015 - 7:19pm
Immaculate preparation and build as always,just need a pair of ugly black SKS's to finish it
It's not a bad track that one,Mrs R2 and I have ridden up it on the tandem ,but we were quite a bit younger then

BTW,Have you tried the one from Waunfawr over to Llanberis?
The climb out of Waunfawr is tarmac(ish) and the descent is similar to the 'old road' you were on today.

You're hooked,admit it

Re: LLC and Wales Questions

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 July 2015 - 7:13pm
Its going to leave me broke and could well be my last tour. I am not getting any younger (and am broke) so I figured 300 miles at the age of 30, in memory of my dad, is something to get excited for. I like leaving as little as possible to chance so now it comes down to the weather and my legs.

The Adventure Show Sunday 18:50 IPlayer

CTC Forum - On the road - 15 July 2015 - 7:11pm
This Sunday 19 BBC Scotland on IPlayer

Re: How limiting is a rigid bike?

CTC Forum - MTB - 15 July 2015 - 6:59pm
As a very late (always) adopter - here's my tentative SPD sandal toed dip into having a bike that will cope with DRY hard packed forest roads and bridleways. Encouraged by reohn2

Rode 10 miles up the Gwynant today as far as the Pen Y Gwryd Hotel and returned via the stony 'old road'

I didn't fall off or have any major concerns I think I might get to like the non tarmac thang

1990 Raleigh 'Blueridge' 531 frame/chromoly forks - got for free/karma off a wonderfully nice chap on http://www.retrobike.co.uk

The story in pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/obswerve/ ... 8805712932

Re: car hire v train prices

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 July 2015 - 6:35pm
Will someone defend me,or do I stand "condemned"?

Re: Bike packing versus conventional touring.

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 July 2015 - 6:10pm
PH wrote:honesty wrote:The nomad is a heavy bike. The frame alone weighs around 3kg by itself. Add over a kilo of fork and you've got 2kg sitting in the frame before you even add in other weights.

The Nomad frame weighs 2.8kg according to review where it was weighed. The Thorn Audax frame you recommend as a lightweight alternative weighs an average 2.3 kg according the the Thorn website. If the OPs Nomad is the rigid fork version, there isn't going to be more than a few grams between that and the longer, front rack ready steel Audax one. Where is this 2kg saving?
Whatever the OP decides to do, it is more likely to bring satisfaction if based on accurate information.

Thorn say the frame weighs 3kg in their sales material. The fork - whilst no weight is given a similar Thorn fork has its weight as 1.48kg. Say 1.5kg for ease. A total of 4.5kg

The Thorn audax (I could go with a spa Ti on here at 1.5kg for even more saving) weighs 2.3kg. Standard forks at 1kg, carbon forks are 0.6kg. So a range of 2.1kg to 3.3kg. Or a weight difference of 1.2kg to 2.4kg. Or 2kg ish for short.

Re: LLC and Wales Questions

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 July 2015 - 6:01pm
Bloody hell OP, this must be the most anticipated trip in the history of the known Universe...

Re: car hire v train prices

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 July 2015 - 5:57pm
PH wrote:Sorry, the the majority of those problems seem to arise from your reluctance to book on the internet. And there was no need to have gone through London, the alternative posted in an earlier thread would have been on quieter trains. It comes as no surprise to me that the people who set out expecting problems get them.

+1. And central London is a relatively easy and definitely safe place to cycle between stations. A bit of planning and allowing a bit of time would have made a big difference to the experience.

Re: Reading to Paris

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 July 2015 - 5:53pm
The final part of Donald Hirsch's Dieppe - Paris route is actually from Versailles in the west. It ends at the Eiffel Tower and I suggest it would be a great way to finish off your ride.

Also that when you've been fit, your expectations don't adjust accurately to your actual fitness. The answer is (basically) to ride more.

Re: Bike packing versus conventional touring.

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 July 2015 - 4:29pm
al_yrpal wrote:horizon wrote:This has been discussed before but what are people's views at present on body weight versus bike weight?

Don't some people say that body weight is carried by the muscles but bike weight has to be pushed? And what about wheel/tyre weight as opposed to weight in a pannier or frame?

On this basis, how many kilos of body weight equals 1 kg of bike weight? This I would have thought is crucial to the OP.
And how many gms of tyre weight equals 100 gms of bike weight? Are they equal when it comes to riding?

Errr.have a read of a Physics textbook, in particular how work is calculated. Whether the weight is in the body or the bike it makes little difference. As far as wheels and tyres are concerned extra energy is expended accelerating a wheel, so light tyres are good, but again overall its the weight of the whole thing that matters. The less the better, which is why bikepacking (touring on a light bike with light luggage) seems attractive. If I was very heavy what would worry me is touring on a light bike thats like a metronome, I have done that and its horrible.


I don't think the location of the weight is as neutral as you say. I recently bought a Specialized Roubaix for fun spins. It weighs 7k plus less than my usual bike - a SuperGalaxy with bags. There's just no comparison. My avg speed is up a couple of kph and I can cycle comfortably up hills I usually grind up. Yes it would be great to take off ten kilos from me, but don't underestimate a lighter, stiffer bike.
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