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Re: Cycle paths - Lesson learned

CTC Forum - On the road - 18 July 2015 - 4:13pm
pwa, yup, of course I was joking. Agree with your comments, just not impressed by attitude towards more vulnerable parties in this particular situation. Whatever mode of transport I use, it always has to be the case of deferring to the most vulnerable in any potential conflict situation (hence the logic of presumed liability)

Re: Cycle paths - Lesson learned

CTC Forum - On the road - 18 July 2015 - 4:13pm
Stradageek wrote:The cycle paths in Northampton are all dual use but useful for avoiding some dangerous roads/junctions.

But bowling along at 20mph risks problems with 'pod'-estrians, 'meander'-tals, dog walkers etc. Ring a bell or shout a warning and you are as likely to get someone turn and get in the way as move out of the way.

Sadly it has taken me this long to realise that the solution is to approach these obstacles as I would like motorists to approach meeting me on a bicycle.

It's a shared use path and I just need to accept that even if I'm in a hurry I have to go slower and be prepared to courteously share the available space. If I want to travel at speed, I need to stick to the roads!

Yes. And it's worth remembering many of those may be motorists as well and may include HGV/tipper drivers etc!
Respect should be given to all users however they are travelling.

I think that Sustrans recommend if you want cycle faster than 18mph you should be on a road. However passing pedestrians/equestrians at that speed is way too fast and even more so if they were unaware of you.

Re: Indicators, the lost art?

CTC Forum - On the road - 18 July 2015 - 3:06pm
bigjim wrote: But who knows, with the current resurgence of cycling, driving standards towards cyclist might improve
Bless. Aren't you nice.
Not typically, but I do find it quite difficult to enunciate with my tongue so firmly wedded to my cheek.

Re: Indicators, the lost art?

CTC Forum - On the road - 18 July 2015 - 2:57pm
But who knows, with the current resurgence of cycling, driving standards towards cyclist might improve
Bless. Aren't you nice.

Re: Cycle paths - Lesson learned

CTC Forum - On the road - 18 July 2015 - 2:29pm
beardy wrote:Pod-estrian, moton, meanderthal and mamil.

They are all good descriptive terms that ring a bell.

I believe I would come under "Sandalista" or "BOF".

I welcome some imaginative use of language rather than try and censor it in an escalation of moral outrage. You could even call it poetry!

Yes, we can be too quick to take offence at loose comments. I would not have chosen the OP's names for people who drift from left to right across a track, making things more tricky for passing cyclists, but I do find that meandering a problem. As the OP recognises, we have to slow down and pass wayward pedestrians safely and, I suggest, with good humour. It's not worth getting stressed over.

Re: silverfox run 2015 - 500 miles of scotland

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 18 July 2015 - 2:26pm
aye it was , we were fishing buds , so we started where we 1st met to the place we loved to fish .
yip planning 2
2016 doing c2c in scotland from dundee to western point , or other way round .
2017 e2e but jogle

Re: Armistead Down And Out................

CTC Forum - Racing - 18 July 2015 - 2:09pm
I'm a fisherman too, I get that

ETA
Shimano's site v-a-v their colours, transmission etc: http://www.shimano-lifestylegear.com/gl ... colors.php

Re: Zamora to Biarritz

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 18 July 2015 - 2:09pm
I came the other way, from Santander to Zamora and down the N630 a couple of years ago.

From Zamora, you could go to Benevente and Mancilla. From there, you've got a choice.

1.Turn right towards Burgos and then over the Cantabrian mountains to Santander. Then the coast road towards Biarritz.

2. From Mancilla, go over the mountains towards Cangos and through the valley to Ariondas and onto the coast road at Ribadesella. From there along the coast to Biarritz.

(Don't know that all these town spellings are correct.)

I've done both routes, but only as far as Santander. From there to Biarritz, I've no idea. The mountain passes were around 1200 metres with plenty of switchbacks.

Hope this makes sense and is of some use.

Re: 10 days in August. Where should I go?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 18 July 2015 - 2:04pm
Manalishi wrote:Train to Dover, ferry to Dunkirk then a tour of Flanders.
Or cross through the tunnel;
http://www.eurotunnel.com/uk/traveller- ... /bicycles/

Re: 10 days in August. Where should I go?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 18 July 2015 - 2:03pm
bretonbikes wrote:I'm hideously biased, but for a first tour Brittany can't be beaten - hugely varied and you'll fall in love with the place. Easy ferry from Plymouth and Roscoff - there's a simple route here you can follow - http://www.bretonbikes.com/generalartic ... route.html - and some other general advice here - http://www.bretonbikes.com/generalartic ... rance.html

I've obviously lots of routes on file so if you want help just email and I'll help out - the more people who cycle over here the better;-)

Thanks for that, what a useful guide.

Re: Cycle paths - Lesson learned

CTC Forum - On the road - 18 July 2015 - 2:01pm
Pod-estrian, moton, meanderthal and mamil.

They are all good descriptive terms that ring a bell.

I believe I would come under "Sandalista" or "BOF".

I welcome some imaginative use of language rather than try and censor it in an escalation of moral outrage. You could even call it poetry!

Re: Cycle paths - Lesson learned

CTC Forum - On the road - 18 July 2015 - 1:53pm
pwa wrote:661-Pete, I think you have misunderstood what the OP is saying. It is a story of someone learning that 20mph is inappropriate around pedestrians and that you have to take care around other path users. To pick up on a small point, there are tracks where because of long sight lines it can be okay to let speed build up to 20mph, but not with pedestrians around.
Oh, I think I understood well enough. The OP refers to 'bowling along at 20mph' and taking a long while to realise that this doesn't work. I appreciate that they now seem to have got the message. Contrition is fine, but doesn't excuse the earlier behaviour.

And as I said, expressions like 'pod-estrian' and 'meander-thal' aren't exactly going to show this forum in a good light. I believe there was quite a row not so long ago, about use of words like 'moton'.

Re: Armistead Down And Out................

CTC Forum - Racing - 18 July 2015 - 1:45pm
Hi,
ANY Tinted glasses is only (Cat1 and greater) is IIRC only 50% light trasmission

Only CAT 0 is OK for driving etc. I.M.O.
Yellow can be 0 -1
http://everythingsunglasses.blogspot.co ... -what.html

"Transmission rates. An unfortunate name for this part of the unending technology you can learn about sunglasses. This one is quite simple actually. It is what it sounds like. The transmission rate (also called transmittance) is a percentage given which describes the amount (or rate) of sunlight that will go through the lenses of your sunglasses and into your eyes. Being a percentage, they run from 0% (black as night) to 100% (clear as day). All lenses fall somewhere in between there, most being closer to 0%. Each different range of transmission rates also has categories which are organized like this:


Category 0: 80 – 100%
Category 1: 46 – 79 %
Category 2: 18 – 45 %
Category 3: 8 &# 8211; 17 %
Category 4: 3 – 8 %"

http://www.vision3k.com/bloc-sunglasses ... ses-lenses

Re: Armistead Down And Out................

CTC Forum - Racing - 18 July 2015 - 1:13pm
Flinders wrote:I think the sun may have been right in the riders' eyes. In which case, it may have been difficult to separate the photographers from people behind them who were behind the barriers.
I see no point in there being barriers if anyone is allowed the 'wrong' side of them.
Armistead is clearly pictured wearing very dark sunglasses before she loses control.

Re: Indicators, the lost art?

CTC Forum - On the road - 18 July 2015 - 12:40pm
bigjim wrote:I'm getting used to non indicators and don't get too adgitated about them. They are just part of our ever more selfish society. What does bug me is this new thing of actually deciding to indicate as they are turning. What's that all about? Too late mate. No good to me now!
I agree - with the caveat that I remember as a child reading them described as "BOIL"* many many years ago, a phrase that stuck in my mind ever since!

*Brake operated indicator lights

Thinking about it, I suspect, but don't know, that successive generations have railed against the driving standards of the next generation. But who knows, with the current resurgence of cycling, driving standards towards cyclist might improve

Re: silverfox run 2015 - 500 miles of scotland

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 18 July 2015 - 12:28pm
Looks like a bit of an epic, hope it was fun and you're planning the next one.

Re: Indicators, the lost art?

CTC Forum - On the road - 18 July 2015 - 12:11pm
I'm getting used to non indicators and don't get too adgitated about them. They are just part of our ever more selfish society. What does bug me is this new thing of actually deciding to indicate as they are turning. What's that all about? Too late mate. No good to me now!

Re: Cycle paths - Lesson learned

CTC Forum - On the road - 18 July 2015 - 12:01pm
Phil Fouracre wrote:What comes around, goes around! Let's just treat everyone else like we criticise motorists for treating us!

If only what goes around did come around.

When I drive, I dont drive like that towards other cyclists or pedestrians. Cyclist to pedestrian encounters are much more balanced in the potential to do harm, I think that I am going to come off better than an 85 year old lady, weighing 50Kg, regardless of who is on the bike when we collide.

Re: my altercation

CTC Forum - On the road - 18 July 2015 - 11:58am
Ah! That was your mistake. You ascribed thought to the process. No, no, no, there was none involved have you learnt nothing?
Just out of interest, as we both cycle this area, have you ever cycled around langport? Travelling to and from Fivehead on the main road I have decided that there must be an invisible barrier about half a mile from the edge of town. Within this the knuckle draggers rule; I have been overtaken on complete blind bends, hooted and sworn at, so many times that I think there must be something in the water!

Re: ITV4 Tour Coverage.

CTC Forum - Racing - 18 July 2015 - 11:58am
I find Tanya Arnold with her baritone voice on the super league show strangely alluring.....

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/G9zhCDPnnvo/maxresdefault.jpg

I must seek therapy....

On the cycling front I think it was during last years tour of britain, Hugh Porter made a comment to Brian Smith and there was a horrible silence followed by an apology from Hugh Porter. I felt some sort of boundary had been crossed, it seemed like a joke that fell flat with Mr Smith.
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