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Hotel or camping during a cycling tour?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 5 April 2015 - 12:19pm
I am flying from Liverpool to Carcassonne in two weeks time and cycling back home over two weeks. Taking my tent but not averse to staying in hotels some nights, depending on weather, location, how I feel etc. it's good to have the freedom of choice.

Re: What is gr8 about motorcycling?

CTC Forum - On the road - 5 April 2015 - 12:09pm
brynpoeth wrote:One has the impression that all motorbikers just want to break the law and go as fast as possible.

Can anyone produce evidence for or against my impression?

Somewhere on another internet forum:-
One has the impression that all cyclists just want to break the law,go as fast as they can and RLJ!

Can anyone produce evidence for or against my impression?

Re: Reducing pannier weight

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 5 April 2015 - 11:22am
DarkNewt wrote:im gonna fill anything hollow with helium


I think motorists have been doing that with their heads for years.

Re: What is gr8 about motorcycling?

CTC Forum - On the road - 5 April 2015 - 11:19am
FarOeuf wrote:Mick F wrote:I can understand why people ride them, but what I fail to understand is why they have to be so noisy?
WHY? for goodness sake?

maybe for a similar reason that (seemingly) the more expensive the roadie bicycle the louder the clicking from the rear hub when you freewheel. I don't understand that either, I'm embarrassed if my bike is making mechanical noises.

surely there is a law on noise. But no will to do anything about it.

Re: What is gr8 about motorcycling?

CTC Forum - On the road - 5 April 2015 - 11:17am
Mark1978 wrote:I remember a couple of years ago cycling over the massive hill from Port de Pollença to Söller and there was some sort of motorbike rally going on. Literally thousands of bikes coming the other way. Often three or four abreast. Deafening noise and often disregarding my presence and overtaking other bikes straight at me . Rather put me off bikes that day.

Could one describe this as terrorism?

Re: What is gr8 about motorcycling?

CTC Forum - On the road - 5 April 2015 - 11:16am
One has the impression that all motorbikers just want to break the law and go as fast as possible.

Can anyone produce evidence for or against my impression?

Re: What is gr8 about motorcycling?

CTC Forum - On the road - 5 April 2015 - 11:13am
Willy_Eckerslike wrote:You know when someone tells you that they don't understand why you would want to spend all day on your bicycle and you know that there is no point in trying to explain, it's like that.

Not true! I wrote "truly an open question" and I meant it.

Maybe I would not want to understand why anyone smokes tobacco.

Re: What is gr8 about motorcycling?

CTC Forum - On the road - 5 April 2015 - 10:44am
There's a saying I read once about the joy of motorcycling which goes:-

Now I know why a dog sticks it's head out of a car window!

It's the joy and adrenalin rush of the open road!

Parp parp!

Re: Riding in a group

CTC Forum - On the road - 5 April 2015 - 9:30am
[XAP]Bob wrote:First observation is that mudguards don't seem to feature in their group riding video - I'd say it was rather important...+1. And it all seems to be about 'the group' - do such always ride on closed roads

Re: What is gr8 about motorcycling?

CTC Forum - On the road - 5 April 2015 - 9:10am
It's funny Mick should mention loud vehicles,whilst out for a ride yesterday five vehicles attracted my attention due to their noise levels,three were Harleys( straight through pipes) the last one was very offensive,and two cars one a very new looking Merc AMG and a ten year old customised Toyota Celica both had stupidly loud big bore exhausts with the Merc being the loudest and most aggressive sounding.
TBH I can't see the attraction for the owner,I never have even when I was younger.
To drive a car or m/cycle with that noise all the time would really annoy me,I'm aware m/cycle riders don't hear it the same as car drivers might but nevertheless a complete distraction .
IMHO it's just a 'look at me' tag onto lives that are lacking in some way so need to be the centre of attention,even if only for a brief time as they pass by.
In there minds they're an exciting attraction to the opposite or same sex,cool dude expression,when really they're just an annoyance to everyone and come across as complete dorks

Re: Garmin Tour mapping

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 5 April 2015 - 8:07am
Yet more on Garmin! they finally got a unit for themselves put in the City Navigator Maps and hey presto they don't work!!!!! They have admitted a serious fault and are going to refund me the cost of the maps!!! Essentially once you put in a postcode and hit ride it just sits there!!! So much for their quality control... I have asked for a refund on my unit so far no luck so I am now going to the trading standards!

Re: What is gr8 about motorcycling?

CTC Forum - On the road - 5 April 2015 - 8:01am
Mick F wrote:I can understand why people ride them, but what I fail to understand is why they have to be so noisy?
WHY? for goodness sake?

They're noisy brand new. 4stroke and 2stroke alike.
Why?
What's wrong with a decent silencer?Many are air cooled so do not have the sound deadening of a great big water jacket like almost all car engines. There is limited space for cooling fins etc which will vibrate. It is the frequency of sound from the comparatively high revving engine that you probably notice more which is why somebody who never rides below 6000 rpm on a 4 cylinder machine is much more penetrating than a rider at 200o rpm. Yes, some people use illegal or modified exhausts, as do some motor car drivers. There are a number of such cars around my area and I can guess which route they have taken by the acceleration from each junction for about a mile. Some motorcycles are deliberately noisy with trade mark sounds such as Hardly Able To (that's English for Harley Davidson ) and some are foreign imports.

It is strange to me that if I go to a Classic Racing Motorcycle Club race meeting the machines are quieter (and possibly more stifled) than when I rode 30 years ago when most had open megaphone silencers. My race bike was actually quiet enough to be sensible on the road had I wanted to modify it to be road going.

Re: What is gr8 about motorcycling?

CTC Forum - On the road - 5 April 2015 - 7:20am
Mick F wrote:I can understand why people ride them, but what I fail to understand is why they have to be so noisy?
WHY? for goodness sake?

maybe for a similar reason that (seemingly) the more expensive the roadie bicycle the louder the clicking from the rear hub when you freewheel. I don't understand that either, I'm embarrassed if my bike is making mechanical noises.

Re: What is gr8 about motorcycling?

CTC Forum - On the road - 5 April 2015 - 7:06am
I can understand why people ride them, but what I fail to understand is why they have to be so noisy?
WHY? for goodness sake?

They're noisy brand new. 4stroke and 2stroke alike.
Why?
What's wrong with a decent silencer?

Re: What is gr8 about motorcycling?

CTC Forum - On the road - 5 April 2015 - 6:51am
I remember a couple of years ago cycling over the massive hill from Port de Pollença to Söller and there was some sort of motorbike rally going on. Literally thousands of bikes coming the other way. Often three or four abreast. Deafening noise and often disregarding my presence and overtaking other bikes straight at me . Rather put me off bikes that day.

Re: Hotel or camping during a cycling tour?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 5 April 2015 - 5:27am
I use a tent on rural French cycle hols and enjoy it very much. You sure appreciate the things you get right when you're in a tent. It's pretty solitary sometimes. It puts me on the edge of town, in a field, in bed before it's dark. There is a joy in spending 10e instead of 80e though, or even 45e. I had a few heavy rain hotel nights and did think it's a better way to get some interaction with the French and the language, and to feel more abroad (which is enjoyable). I enjoyed seeing the hotel operating, and feeling I had a base from which to take in the market town centres, like a modern day Robert Louis Stevenson passing through on his donkey. He camped some nights too actually. Maybe if I were richer, I'd do half and half, best of both.

Renting a bike for a tour in Sweden

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 5 April 2015 - 2:40am
Hello,

I am looking to do a tour in Sweden while I am there in July. I don't have a suitable touring bike (plus paniers) and wondered if it might be possible to hire a one for a week? I saw the route from Gothenburg to Halden is often mentioned as a great journey, but that would make the hiring of a bike even more complicated as we'd pick it up and drop it off in different locations.

I know one option is to do a self-guided tour through a company, but they all seem so expensive and I'd really like to keep the costs down. We'd probably camp the whole time, and most of the self guided tours involve hotels which drive the price up.

It might be the case that a round trip is the best thing to do, so if anyone has any recommendations of a good route that would also be much appreciated. We are looking to do about 4-5 days.

As you can probably tell, we have no idea what we'll do, how we'll do it, or even where we'll go. We just would love to spend a few days cycling around and camping. With no cycling equipment (we have all the camping stuff) it is certainly a bit complicated, so any wisdom/insight/advice would be very warmly welcomed!

Thanks!

Re: Hotel or camping during a cycling tour?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 5 April 2015 - 1:21am
cheesypeeps wrote:B and B everytime. I've done my days at camping. When my body is all tired from cycling I love getting clean and being rested. Love wandering around the area ive arrived at. No need to stay in the b n b until sleep time +1 I take a tent and sleeping bag just in case because in this part of the world it can be a very long way between motels, B & Bs etc

Re: Reducing pannier weight

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 5 April 2015 - 1:05am
im gonna fill anything hollow with helium

Re: What is gr8 about motorcycling?

CTC Forum - On the road - 5 April 2015 - 12:57am
brynpoeth wrote:Like most of us I love cycling, but I drive a vehicle occasionally too (as little as possible). Cycling is always great and I find driving on the motorway often quite relaxing (engage highest gear, lean left or right occasionally, move my right toes now and then).

I can not understand the attraction of motorcycling. Modern motorbikes are as expensive and as thirsty as cars. One has the impression that all motorbikers just want to break the law and go as fast as possible.

Anybody here cycles and rides a motorbike and can explain it? Truly an open question.

Diolch
Meanwhile on another forum somewhere :-
Like most of us I love motorcycling, but I drive a vehicle occasionally too (as little as possible). motorcycling is always great and I find driving on the motorway often quite relaxing (engage highest gear, lean left or right occasionally, move my right toes now and then).

I can not understand the attraction of cycling. Modern bicycles are as expensive as cars. One has the impression that all cyclists just want to break the law and ride through red lights.

Anybody here cycles and rides a motorbike and can explain it? Truly an open question.

Diolch

And so it goes until another persons perspective is appreciated.........
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