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Re: Horse Riders

CTC Forum - On the road - 11 August 2014 - 9:42am
Mick F wrote:No, I don't think so.
I believe that a horse rider is in charge of a dangerous item and therefore the onus is on them to protect it from the public going about their normal business.

Also, as I sort of asked before, what are are horses for?
They serve no purpose other than for sport or racing.
In some cultures, horses are still used for work and transport. That includes Gypsies and other traveller communities, and religious communities such as Amish and Mennonite.

One of the rag n'bone men in Essex, even a couple of years ago used a horse and cart. I've seen horses tied up a couple times of two different pubs in Suffolk at Sunday lunch times. So, it may not be common, but it seems that people do occasioanlly use a sporting / leisure activity as a means of transport

Re: Focus

CTC Forum - On the road - 11 August 2014 - 9:36am
Tonyf33 wrote:You're probably on the wrong forum for advice regarding CF bikes, not many on here advocate them or have them
You'd be best of checking out Bike Radar or Road CC, here's one article http://road.cc/content/buyers-guide/708 ... road-bikes
Plenty of CF bikes on here - just also a tendency to ask "why do you want..." about any specific request. If I said I wanted a roller brake that could bolt onto a disc hub I'd expect to be asked why I thought that was a good idea, what I actually wanted to do and have other suggestions made.

In this case the "CF please" was accompanied by "more comfortable than Al", so various suggestions could be made off that...

Of course I'd expect the weaknesses of an "I want X" to be pointed out as well...

Re: Horse Riders

CTC Forum - On the road - 11 August 2014 - 9:30am
Si wrote:They serve no purpose other than for sport or racing.
Oh the irony of a cyclist asking this
How many people use a horse as regular transport? I've never seen one tied up outside a supermarket, whereas I often see bikes tied up there.

I have no issue with them using the road, and I don't particularly object to the free manure, but a bun bag is a reasonable request - whilst on a paved highway at any rate. Bridleways, particularly greenways are a different matter...

Re: Horse Riders

CTC Forum - On the road - 11 August 2014 - 9:24am
I believe that a horse rider is in charge of a dangerous item and therefore the onus is on them to protect it from the public going about their normal business.

There's many that would say the same about bikes....the onus being on the cyclist to protect itself from the public going about their normal business by wearing a helmet and hiviz, using the cycle path and getting out of the bloody road.

They serve no purpose other than for sport or racing.
Oh the irony of a cyclist asking this

Re: Focus

CTC Forum - On the road - 11 August 2014 - 9:19am
I have the triple chainset version of the Focus Cayo, now about four years old (triple version no longer offered, unfortunately). Excellent bike. To start with I found it a bit skittish on descents, but I think that was just me adjusting to the different balance on a much shorter wheelbase than I'd been used to. It's coped very well on everything from long trips in the Alps and the Hebrides to audaxes and sportives in the southwest. It is, however, very much a summer-only 'best bike', so I haven't needed to test it in winter conditions. I've switched to slightly narrower bars and upgraded the wheels and saddle, but not changed much else. I did have an early problem with the BB fitted (Truvativ GPX), which soon showed signs of wear, but since I replaced that with a Hope BB with GPX adapters everything's been fine.

Re: Bonnet surfing

CTC Forum - On the road - 11 August 2014 - 9:01am
kwackers wrote:On the other hand, people have killed and got away with less. So in that respect it's a good outcome.

There can be no mitigating circumstances for deliberately running down someone who is asking for insurance details after a collision.
So the perp is guilty,without doubt.
The penalty is extremely lenient for assault with a deadly weapon IMO
A month or two in jail(preferably with hard labour),confiscation of the weapon,12month driving ban with driving retest,anger management course and adequate compensation to the victim would make scumboy think again next time.

Re: Go Pro Camera

CTC Forum - On the road - 11 August 2014 - 8:27am
K-Edge mounts come recommended, I've got a saddle rail clamp for my Garmin camera, used with an adapter that comes with the Garmin.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/k-edge-go-big-g ... o-version/

Although Wiggle power the CTC shop, I can't see the above on the CTC shop.

Re: Horse Riders

CTC Forum - On the road - 11 August 2014 - 8:20am
No, I don't think so.
I believe that a horse rider is in charge of a dangerous item and therefore the onus is on them to protect it from the public going about their normal business.

Also, as I sort of asked before, what are are horses for?
They serve no purpose other than for sport or racing.

Re: [First tour] Lincoln to Edinburgh, solo, wildcamping

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 11 August 2014 - 8:07am
I've just cycled from Ipswich to Inverness and followed a lot of route 1 and 7. I passed through Lincoln and took that up to Whitby. The Scarborough to Whitby cinder path is excellent. I stayed on normal campsites which were usually less than 10 pounds sometimes as low as 5 pounds. They are handy as you can have a wash, recharge phone and can be a social event where you can meet others. Are you set on wild camping?

After Whitby I went in land to avoid large urban areas and went across top of north York moors to Hurworth then across the top of the dales to Kirkby Stephen before heading up to Scotland.

Re: Bonnet surfing

CTC Forum - On the road - 11 August 2014 - 8:04am
Bob
IMO this scum got off light,very light,bearing in mind that his actions when requested for his details(which are a legal requirement after a collision)were deliberate and wilful which could have caused untold injuries and was only luck that they didn't.
TBH I think the penalty is a disgrace,though I'm not surprised by it in the least .

Re: [First tour] Lincoln to Edinburgh, solo, wildcamping

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 11 August 2014 - 7:52am
stu57 wrote:
This I'm okay with, 307 miles is the sustrans distance according to google maps, which is what I'm planning for. My worry with making up my own route is that it'd be far easier to get lost!

Have to admit I'd follow my own route, rather than sustrans. A quick google shows route 1 passing through some fairly post industrial areas of the north east (I.e. Durham coast, Wearside, Tyneside), none of which are areas I'd go out of my way to cycle in. In contrast heading inland, provides some superb cycling through the Vale of York, countryside to the west of Durham, Wearside and Tyneside (Though it's worth checking to ensure one isn't following a roller coaster of a route, up and down the dales!). Though I'd roughly follow the first part, Lincoln to Humber bridge and the Northumbrian, Scottish coastal stretch.

Given that I'm not a fan of organised cycle routes, I'm biased in stating that following one's own route can be easier than attempting to identify the "cycle route", my experience of following cycle routes, being an infuriating sensation of being slightly lost! I wouldn't anticipate major problems in camping wild throughout the route, as long as you're staying away from the urban areas at nightfall.

Re: Go Pro Camera

CTC Forum - On the road - 11 August 2014 - 7:33am
I have used the "Handlebar / Seatpost / Pole Mount ".

http://gopro.com/camera-mounts/handleba ... pole-mount

Sample video (from an original HD Hero) at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWymGuzFQPE

Go Pro Camera

CTC Forum - On the road - 11 August 2014 - 7:24am
Hello,
Has anybody managed to mount their camera under the bars as opposed to mounting on top so it's not as obvious to other road users ,and if so which mount did you buy.

Cheers,and thanks for looking.

Re: Focus

CTC Forum - On the road - 11 August 2014 - 12:54am
You're probably on the wrong forum for advice regarding CF bikes, not many on here advocate them or have them
You'd be best of checking out Bike Radar or Road CC, here's one article http://road.cc/content/buyers-guide/708 ... road-bikes

Re: [First tour] Lincoln to Edinburgh, solo, wildcamping

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 11 August 2014 - 12:37am
Guys - thanks for your responses.

graymee wrote:How far are you planning to cycle each day and have you cycled that far before? A distance you might ride in a day might not be sustainable over multiple days especially if carrying camping kit.

I've covered 100 miles in a day before on a unloaded bike a few times and felt okay. I am planning 5 days / 4 nights, so 60 mpd - though I'm not on a deadline.

graymee wrote:Finding suitable spots to wild camp that are both at the required distance from your departure point and close to the route will be problematic in the 1st part of your journey if not all of it.

This is a bit of a worry. Any advice?

graymee wrote:NCN 1 is signposted but how well is open to debate, a map of that section of the route might be advisable.

Likewise this, I think I will obtain a road atlas and/or relevant maps.

nirakaro wrote:I don’t know NCN1, but my experience of Sustrans routes is that they prioritise segregating you from traffic, even if that involves taking you through the back of the industrial estate, round the sewage works, along some fairly awkward tracks, and twice as far as you needed to go. Great for a Sunday afternoon pootle with the kids, but maybe not ideal for long distance riding. Sustrans say that NCN1 from Dover to Shetland is 1695 miles – wow, Dover to Thurso is only 708 miles by road. You might be wise to look at a few maps before setting off, and find where there are nice quiet backroads that are more direct.

This I'm okay with, 307 miles is the sustrans distance according to google maps, which is what I'm planning for. My worry with making up my own route is that it'd be far easier to get lost!

Re: Amazing and unfair - Anmimals Act 1971

CTC Forum - On the road - 11 August 2014 - 12:22am
sirmy wrote:There was a case concerning a horse and cart being spooked by a child throwing a stone at it and a policeman being injured bringing it under control in 1935

" COA held that D owed a duty of care to the plaintiff because it was reasonably foreseeable that D’ conduct of leaving the horses unattended in a place where mischievous children may be about and where something may happen to cause the horses to run away and thereby endangering the public and rescuers like P might be attracted to help the situation." (http://www.slideshare.net/Kulshoom/negligence-duty-of-care)

So if, say a child of 10 or 11 or even a small, or frankly average sized adult, is riding a horse down a road then it is "reasonably foreseeable" (at least in my non legal view) that that person may not be able to control the animal if spooked and a duty of care may have been breached by who ever decided to ride on the road

Doubt it would hold up in court though

What about a parent allowing a 10 year old out on a bike in traffic - would their lack of experience in riding not also be "reasonably foreseeable"?

And is this a road we want to go down?

(I don't ride horses, so just sayin' like)

Re: Anyone use a trailer ?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 10 August 2014 - 11:53pm
I have asked in a few places locally but no luck yet, posted in the "Does anyone know section" as well.

Going to go B&Q tomorrow and get some nuts etc... for my M5 bar and then I at least have a spare(s), having a quick measure and it looks like I might get 4 skewers from that bar.

Anyway loaded my trailer up today with everything I would need for a camping trip and my god is it heavy, no wonder the skewers break!

EDIT: Forgot as well, noticed this page -

http://www.edinburghbicycle.com/browse/ ... ler-spares

Wonder what spares would fit our trailers ?

Dave

Re: Amazing and unfair - Anmimals Act 1971

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 August 2014 - 11:13pm
I'm not a lawyer but I can say with complete confidence that in 1935 it wouldn't have been possible to put forward a defence under the Animals Act 1971 .

Whether or not the Animals Act 1971 would work as a defence to liability for the actions of an unattended horse in court today is another matter.

Re: Horse Riders

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 August 2014 - 11:06pm
Mick F wrote:I never have much a problem with horses and riders, but on occasion I do, and it annoys me.

One time, I was speeding down a hill so I could climb the other side more easily, but a horse and rider coming the other way TOLD me to slow down. I didn't (much) and got a mouthful for my trouble.

Horses are dangerous animals - some more dangerous than others. They should be licenced and insured BY LAW and not allowed in public and on roads unless the rider AND horse have passed a test.

If I ruled the world, I'd do away with them all except for racing/sport. They are no use to us any more for anything else. They cost a fortune to keep and are a waste of land and energy.That's a bit intolerant and sounds like many car drivers' response to cyclists being on the road - holding them up etc.. Tests/courses are available for horse riding on the road, but these are not obligatory and of course the test is taken by the rider not the horse! If you had spooked the horse you could have caused serious injury and maybe charged with riding furiously.

Re: Horse Riders

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 August 2014 - 10:42pm
Wonderful resource can be the internet! There's actually a British Horse Society code of practice for horse dung! It includes a section on shared use paths.

http://www.bhsscotland.org.uk/uploads/5 ... e_2010.pdf

Enjoy.
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