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Re: Vomit-inducing content from the Guardian

CTC Forum - On the road - 15 January 2015 - 9:52am
horizon wrote:http://www.theguardian.com/hibernot-outdoor-adventures/2015/jan/13/winter-on-two-wheels-how-to-cycle-through-the-weather
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The articles are written by Land Rover but made to look like Guardian output.
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I thought there were strict rules about identifying "advertisements" as opposed to normal content. And I read bits and it seems like an advert, yet I could notice nothing identifying it as such.

Ian

Re: ASL and motorcyclists

CTC Forum - On the road - 15 January 2015 - 9:49am
meic wrote:I have a similar mileage on motorcycles and I have always stopped alongside vehicles when there was room at the white line. The only incident I ever had was when a car crept forward and parked on my foot. If they started engine revving and preparing to race, I would match them with the posing then let them race off and slip into the gap behind them.

You assume the guy behind doesn't also want to partake of a bit of Traffic Light Grand Prix. Wouldn't be the first time - wouldn't be the first time I've seen a bike rear ended by another overexcited motorcyclist who was sat behind and thought they too would whizz off the line.
Then of course there's the left turn - how do you turn left when you're sat alongside the right side of a car? (I'm assuming you haven't filtered along the left), obviously the 'correct' thing to do is to sit there with your left indicator on and rely on the good nature of your fellow motorists - I'm sure that works at least 80% of the time.

No sorry, I'm pretty certain the safest place to be is at the front of the queue directly in front of the lead vehicle.
meic wrote:You are a bit of a habitual RLJ and I am a bit of a habitual obeyer of red lights. I dispute that the safety issue is strong enough to justify breaking the law and then taking advantage of such an illegal move to position yourself infront of the vehicle at the front of the queue.

A manoeuvre that I see performed by police motorcyclists all the time and one I've performed when there's been a police car at the front. I've never been prosecuted yet so I'm inclined to assume that it's probably less of an issue than you seem to want to make it.
meic wrote:If the act of filtering is to have legitimacy for motorcyclists it should not be a form of queue jumping where you position yourself in the car drivers path but a parallel system where you keep to your own interstitial lane out of their way.

Sorry, but that's nonsense. Filtering IS queue jumping by virtue of the fact you don't stay in a your self made lane but re-enter traffic flow further up. That's the whole point of it.
meic wrote:cyclists should receive preferential treatment to help alleviate the problems caused by motor vehicles.
Hmmm, I think I'd be inclined to disagree with that as a statement. I think cyclists should receive preferential treatment to improve their safety and to make them 'competitive' as a form of transport, not sure how that squares with "problems caused by motor vehicles".

Re: Vomit-inducing content from the Guardian

CTC Forum - On the road - 15 January 2015 - 9:37am
There was an ad for a whacking great Volvo estate a few years ago with a bike laid out full-length in the back.

Ooh, tempting.

I just mean the available space, rather than an alluring bike stretched out before me.

Re: ASL and motorcyclists

CTC Forum - On the road - 15 January 2015 - 9:32am
IME the one thing you should never do unless forced to is stop alongside a vehicle, whether you're on a motorcycle or a bicycle.

I have a similar mileage on motorcycles and I have always stopped alongside vehicles when there was room at the white line. The only incident I ever had was when a car crept forward and parked on my foot. If they started engine revving and preparing to race, I would match them with the posing then let them race off and slip into the gap behind them.

You are a bit of a habitual RLJ and I am a bit of a habitual obeyer of red lights. I dispute that the safety issue is strong enough to justify breaking the law and then taking advantage of such an illegal move to position yourself infront of the vehicle at the front of the queue.
If the act of filtering is to have legitimacy for motorcyclists it should not be a form of queue jumping where you position yourself in the car drivers path but a parallel system where you keep to your own interstitial lane out of their way.

The situation is a little different on a cycle, pragmatically because you lack the speed and acceleration and morally because cyclists should receive preferential treatment to help alleviate the problems caused by motor vehicles.

Re: Bother - CalMac Summer Timetable Lochboisdale to Mallaig

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 January 2015 - 9:04am
lastbluemt wrote:Last summer we did Mallaig - Armadale - Uig- Harris, then down through the Uists, ferry back from Lochboisdale to Oban. The Island Hopper is good value for this itinerary, Harris not to be missed, and the long sail back from Lochboisdale superb. Downside is cycling against prevailing wind in the Uists, and that so much hangs on not missing the early morning Lochboisdale ferry (and it had a mechanical problem the day we wanted to use it).

I'm thinking of doing the same route but in reverse this summer. What's the best time to go, and where can you leave your car in Oban?

Re: Vomit-inducing content from the Guardian

CTC Forum - On the road - 15 January 2015 - 8:57am
They're promoting cycling right? Why is that a bad thing?
If other (more) vehicle manufacturers did that then I suspect we would see more motorists taking to their bikes and the more cyclists we have in the UK, the more people the government have to please with more decent cycling infrastructure. We might also conclude that as more motorists take to their bikes, they might finally get it through their thick skulls why close passes and other crap/selfish driving is so dangerous.
My only hybrid was a Landrover too

Re: Vomit-inducing content from the Guardian

CTC Forum - On the road - 15 January 2015 - 8:16am
Where do you put the feed sacks and hay bales?

Re: Inclusion of African Team in TdF

CTC Forum - Racing - 15 January 2015 - 7:15am
Vorpal wrote:If the media cared, they'd ignore rowing. And golf.

And darts.

Re: Inclusion of African Team in TdF

CTC Forum - Racing - 15 January 2015 - 6:29am
Valbrona wrote:Yes, it is great that a team based on the African continent has been included in the Tour. But over the years I look for reasons why cycling has made little appearance on terrestrial TV and I think one of the reasons is that it doesn't fit the media idea of an 'inclusive sport'.
If the media cared, they'd ignore rowing. And golf.

Re: hour record.

CTC Forum - Racing - 15 January 2015 - 6:09am
The team have not yet cancelled his attempt, though I guess that is the likely outcome. They are going to evaluate after his surgery.

Poor Alex

Re: hour record.

CTC Forum - Racing - 15 January 2015 - 3:51am
Very unfortunate for Alex Dowsett to have broken his collarbone during the build up to a record attempt.

Re: Inclusion of African Team in TdF

CTC Forum - Racing - 15 January 2015 - 3:33am
Yes, it is great that a team based on the African continent has been included in the Tour. But over the years I look for reasons why cycling has made little appearance on terrestrial TV and I think one of the reasons is that it doesn't fit the media idea of an 'inclusive sport'.

Re: Vomit-inducing content from the Guardian

CTC Forum - On the road - 15 January 2015 - 1:01am
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Re: ASL and motorcyclists

CTC Forum - On the road - 15 January 2015 - 12:30am
[XAP]Bob wrote:But to be obliged to stop where it wouldn't be normal, and actively prevents someone else from taking the position ascribed to them for safety reasons is somewhat perverse.

I would say that it passively prevents others from taking their chosen position. Also it is perfectly normal for me to stop at the white line for traffic lights and always has been.

There are many occasions when it may be good if people actively disobeyed the law in preference to the more dangerous option that normally occurs (but shouldnt) such as crossing double white lines while overtaking, or going the wrong side of central reservations instead of squeezing through.
Yet we do have the laws and should default towards obeying them.

Vomit-inducing content from the Guardian

CTC Forum - On the road - 14 January 2015 - 11:54pm
http://www.theguardian.com/hibernot-out ... he-weather

As a lifelong Guardian reader, I'm entitled to rage over the shallow rubbish that Land Rover can pump out under the Guardian banner as a consequence of their having bought their way into the brand. I understand why Land Rover might wish to buy their way into the healthy outdoor lifestyle ethos (after all, who would want to sit in a traffic jam in an overheated two ton lump of metal and glass?) but I'm flabbergasted that the Guardian just roll over and let them do it. The articles are written by Land Rover but made to look like Guardian output. So, yes everybody, let's "strap our bikes to a Land Rover" and get out into the Great Outdoors. If you are not killed by one of their products in the meantime.

Re: ASL and motorcyclists

CTC Forum - On the road - 14 January 2015 - 11:27pm
beardy, no blame from me for taking the legal option, or the considerate option when they differ. Personally, I'd prefer they took the safe (for them) option so long as it was either legal or considerate.

Re: Fawning Over Inclusion of African Team in TdF

CTC Forum - Racing - 14 January 2015 - 11:21pm
I'm glad they're there. Not because they're African but because Qhubeka help people get bikes.

Re: ASL and motorcyclists

CTC Forum - On the road - 14 January 2015 - 11:14pm
But to be obliged to stop where it wouldn't be normal, and actively prevents someone else from taking the position ascribed to them for safety reasons is somewhat perverse.

Re: ASL and motorcyclists

CTC Forum - On the road - 14 January 2015 - 11:11pm
Unless you can see that the entire route of your planned filter is clear, then that is a choice that you make when you start filtering, to go into the uncertain. You can not blame somebody just for being there (legally) in your way. Next it will be anger at people being in the way when they feel obliged to obey the speed limit.
That is rather like expecting cyclists to ride illegally on the pavement to aid traffic flow. In all my years of filtering, it has never crossed my mind to blame somebody for filtering ahead of me in my way and for stopping where I would continue.

Re: Fawning Over Inclusion of African Team in TdF

CTC Forum - Racing - 14 January 2015 - 10:44pm
That's a lot of err.. anger... in one post. Do you hate the left wing media, Africans, Marxists, or people who hate cycling sports? I cant really tell.

I've seen one article in I think the Indy (could have been the guardian, ot pinged in my twitter feed) wouldn't really say that's then not stopping talking about them...
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