Feed aggregator

Re: Help!

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 August 2014 - 5:34pm
yes, I'm afraid it's true; using a motorcar can cause you to become stupid and may cause you to be fat, blinkered and aggressive, or all of those combined. unnecessarily long 4x4 vehicles with names like 'destructor' may cause baldness and too tight polo shirt wearing.

Re: My first tour (I didn't make it)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 August 2014 - 5:34pm
Si wrote:Trailers are just adding weight for no benefit IMO.

You are only saying that because MickF is away (towing his trailer) on tour

Having said that though, if I used his bikes I'd go for a trailer too.
He's away is he? I was wondering what was going on, I was expecting him to come roaring in after my comment.

Re: My first tour (I didn't make it)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 August 2014 - 5:09pm
theDaveB wrote:I don't live in the best of areas, so just presume every where isn't safe. No idea how I would cope with having to stop mid route and going into a shop to buy something, I would want to take my bike and trailer in with me!

Dave

This^^^
I'm same. My right rear pannier was apart from cooking gear, choc full of food so I wouldn't have to stop anywhere

Re: Help!

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 August 2014 - 4:55pm
I fear many motorists in modern cars feel removed from what is going on around them. If they are fiddling with their air con, satnav, in-car sound system etc, how can they be expected to watch the road in front I'm sure we've all had drivers overtaking just before an obstruction, then jamming on the brakes in situations when the cyclist could easily have got through

Re: My first tour (I didn't make it)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 August 2014 - 4:48pm
Trailers are just adding weight for no benefit IMO.

You are only saying that because MickF is away (towing his trailer) on tour

Having said that though, if I used his bikes I'd go for a trailer too.

Re: Stefan Abrutat's Tour Travel Blog

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 August 2014 - 4:08pm
Here's a picture I took on the seafront at Hornsea.



I'm currently limping across southern England with a dying bottom bracket, looking to get it fixed in the next day or two, though. Wales was amazing, especially Snowdonia in the sun. Breathtaking.









Re: My first tour (I didn't make it)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 August 2014 - 4:04pm
Looking at your bikes specs, assuming this is the right model http://www.decathlon.co.uk/original-520 ... nformation, a 28 - 28 bottom gear isn't a great climbing gear.
On hilly terrain and camping, I've got a 24 on the front and a 36 tooth cog on the rear.
Lots of people would struggle on a 28-28. (roughly 27 vs 18 gear inches)

Re: My first tour (I didn't make it)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 August 2014 - 4:02pm
theDaveB wrote:The reason for the trailer is am 17.5 stone, so thought a trailer would be less weight on the bike. If I lost a stone, then that stone could be gear on the bike and I could lose the trailer. But until that happens I will keep the trailer.

The reason I wanted to keep the bike in the tent was more security than anything else. Not really done any camping with my bike and so wasn't sure if there would be any where to lock it up. I don't live in the best of areas, so just presume every where isn't safe. No idea how I would cope with having to stop mid route and going into a shop to buy something, I would want to take my bike and trailer in with me!

Dave
I weigh a good 14 stone and that Raleigh just bowls along no problem with my gear aboard so I can't see your bike complaining, especially if you lose some of the weight of your gear.
On that pic you can see the crappy pound shop lock I use. Never had a problem, but may add a rape alarm in the future. On one tour I forgot my lock. I parked the bike outside supermarkets and unshipped the chain and undid the front wheel skewer. It would take them a while to figure out why it wouldn't pedal. You can lay the bike down on campsites and put a tent peg through the back wheel. Not that I've ever bothered.

Re: My first tour (I didn't make it)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 August 2014 - 3:53pm
wearwell wrote:bigjim wrote:Pretty obvious. Weight! All that weight climbing hills in Wales. Your'e a hero. Weight like that is soul destroying. Why do you want to keep the bike in the tent? Trailers are just adding weight for no benefit IMO. You did make it by the way. Rode out, camped out. learned lots {I hope]. Job done.
I can tour for weeks at a time with just this setup. Plus I'm an old git that likes to sleep well.

I still moan on hills though.
Yep. Have another go.
Nice old bike - wot no mudguards? I carry similar amount plus two small front bags, one for tent the other for odds and ends (shopping; bots wine, patisseries, tins of cassoulet etc.)
That picture on your blog looks familiar - Nevers on the Loire? Was there only three weeks ago. Mind you one Loire bridge looks much like another!
The bike is so nice to ride. Find mudguards a pain for packing the bike for travel. Use them sometimes. Plenty of clearance on that old frame. However the bike has it's fair share of scratches etc. Collected a dint on the Top Tube at the airport on the way back last time. I won't fly with an expensive bike. Wasn't Nevers, though I did ride through there. It was Gien.

Re: My first tour (I didn't make it)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 August 2014 - 3:48pm
theDaveB wrote:The reason for the trailer is am 17.5 stone, so thought a trailer would be less weight on the bike. If I lost a stone, then that stone could be gear on the bike and I could lose the trailer. But until that happens I will keep the trailer.

The reason I wanted to keep the bike in the tent was more security than anything else. Not really done any camping with my bike and so wasn't sure if there would be any where to lock it up. I don't live in the best of areas, so just presume every where isn't safe. No idea how I would cope with having to stop mid route and going into a shop to buy something, I would want to take my bike and trailer in with me!

DaveA good tourer like a Dawes Galaxy would be OK for 17 stone I think. I lost half a stone on our last trip. It helps to eat just normal quantities of food and not to kid yourself that you need to stoke up for energy, which we used to do on first outings. Porage for breakfast though, everyday, plus fruit.
Never had a prob with bike theft but we always lock two bikes together if there's nothing else to attach to. Had to cut a thick bike lock cable the other day - took about 15 minutes with a pair of small pliers and a lot of bending. Never bother with a heavy metal U lock - just too heavy and anyway they could steal everything else except the frame if they really wanted to.

Re: My first tour (I didn't make it)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 August 2014 - 3:46pm
When riding you need a way of assessing the effect of hills.

In my early days I used Naismith rule, so you have what you would do on the flat and add an hour for every so many metres of climbing. So when i was fit on my lightweight that may be 600m. Towing my daughter in the trailer that could be 200m if we were camping that could come down to 100m.
You only know these figures from having ridden hilly rides and seeing the effect.

Assuming you want to carry the kit you have and that you were OK on the flat sections, you seriously underestimated the effect of hilly terrain. In future planning put a severe weighting on the effect of any climbing. Going back to Richard's profile for your trip, see how many metres you climbed and think how much extra time you need to ride that (without killing yourself) and reduce planned mileage to suit.

As I live in a hilly area, doing 90 miles on my lightweight with lightweight camping gear was as easy as 40 miles with my daughter and trailer and normal camping gear.

Re: My first tour (I didn't make it)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 August 2014 - 3:34pm
bigjim wrote:Pretty obvious. Weight! All that weight climbing hills in Wales. Your'e a hero. Weight like that is soul destroying. Why do you want to keep the bike in the tent? Trailers are just adding weight for no benefit IMO. You did make it by the way. Rode out, camped out. learned lots {I hope]. Job done.
I can tour for weeks at a time with just this setup. Plus I'm an old git that likes to sleep well.

I still moan on hills though.
Yep. Have another go.
Nice old bike - wot no mudguards? I carry similar amount plus two small front bags, one for tent the other for odds and ends (shopping; bots wine, patisseries, tins of cassoulet etc.)
That picture on your blog looks familiar - Nevers on the Loire? Was there only three weeks ago. Mind you one Loire bridge looks much like another!

Re: My first tour (I didn't make it)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 August 2014 - 3:33pm
The reason for the trailer is am 17.5 stone, so thought a trailer would be less weight on the bike. If I lost a stone, then that stone could be gear on the bike and I could lose the trailer. But until that happens I will keep the trailer.

The reason I wanted to keep the bike in the tent was more security than anything else. Not really done any camping with my bike and so wasn't sure if there would be any where to lock it up. I don't live in the best of areas, so just presume every where isn't safe. No idea how I would cope with having to stop mid route and going into a shop to buy something, I would want to take my bike and trailer in with me!

Dave

Re: My first tour (I didn't make it)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 August 2014 - 2:51pm
It seems to have been a combination of the weight and the terrain. I had my first lesson about this when I was 13 and went youth hostelling in a dreaded school journey party (SJP in the YHA handbook in those days) on foot in the lake District. I'd packed my rucksack a bit like Marksman Sam

Sam carried a musket, a knapsack and coat,
Spur boots that 'e'd managed to wangle,
A 'atchet, a spade, - in fact as Sam said,
'Ed' got everything bar 't kitchen mangle.

At least, a trailer keeps the weight off your back, but it still has all to be moved up hills. As a former BoB YAK owner myself, IIRC they weigh something like 11kgs unladen. That's almost another bike before you even begin to load it up.

I'd say take less stuff or stick to much flatter terrain.

Re: My first tour (I didn't make it)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 August 2014 - 2:39pm
Congrats on getting as far as you did
As others have said, from that photo of the bike loaded up, it looks like you took everything bar the kitchen sink. Your tent alone weighs almost twice as much as my Avior X2 and that's no lightweight compared to some, so a special congrats on just getting up that hill on NCN5! A local hill here that's about half as steep has me often getting off and walking my bike even unloaded.
I gave up/was beaten back on my own first tour earlier last week so my hats off to you for even making it to your first site and as others have said here and on my own thread, we can but learn and try again
Here's to taking a knock and getting back up

Re: My first tour (I didn't make it)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 August 2014 - 2:27pm
Cheers everyone.

Yeah my tent is heavy but I really like it and was only £100, plus the fact my bike and trailer fit in it.

After close examination of my route, the amount of times it took my around the houses across the same A road is pretty soul destroying. I reckon I could have cut 5 miles off if I knew at the time. I saw I could go via the NCN 5 all the way, so I did!

Dave

Re: Help!

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 August 2014 - 2:26pm
AlaninWales wrote:Sorry to take it out of context, I agree with everyting else posted here, apart from this: They couldn't 'see' the tanker as well as you could, becaue they were not paying attention. Seeing requires other organs than just the eyes registering and xmitting to the brain, the information needs to be processed (and patently wasn't).

Nothing unusual here at all. Nothing to see ... move along
It's the usual motorist 'dilemma'. Fixating on the vehicle immediately in front and assuming that's what's holding them up. (Doubly so if that vehicle is a bicycle).

Re: My first tour (I didn't make it)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 August 2014 - 2:18pm
I agree with what others say about not seeing it as a failure. It's all fun getting out and about. Perhaps it was that you knew that you could be picked up that made it harder. I find hills hard but they are easier when you have no choice. For me I think cycle touring is 60% mental 30% haribo and 10% physical ability.

Re: Help!

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 August 2014 - 2:17pm
Phil Fouracre wrote:What got me was that they could see the tanker just the same as I could, even had hazmat stripes across the back,
Sorry to take it out of context, I agree with everyting else posted here, apart from this: They couldn't 'see' the tanker as well as you could, becaue they were not paying attention. Seeing requires other organs than just the eyes registering and xmitting to the brain, the information needs to be processed (and patently wasn't).

Nothing unusual here at all. Nothing to see ... move along

Re: My first tour (I didn't make it)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 August 2014 - 2:10pm
theDaveB wrote:Who ever decided on the route NCN 5 from Bagilt to Gowant, I want to meet them their and watch them cycle it!

I think it's generally recognised that this is only an interim section - that is, until a cycleway is built along the coast. The coast route is slowly being extended and should now be pretty much complete from Ffynnongroyw to Gronant, I think, which leaves seven-ish miles to do.

Find a route-planning website you like and use its elevation profile function. Here's NCN 5 along the North Wales Coast:



No prizes for working out which bit is the inland section.
Syndicate content

Archive

  • Patron: Her Majesty The Queen
  • President: Jon Snow
  • Chief Executive: Paul Tuohy
  • Cyclists' Touring Club (CTC): A company limited by guarantee, registered in England no.25185. Registered as a charity in England and Wales No 1147607 and in Scotland No SC042541

 

Terms and Conditions