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CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 October 2014 - 11:30pm
thinking of getting a dahon folding bikes , to allow easier storage in rooms and trains on some trips . I wish to take it on a plane but I normally use a road bike with bike bag . If anyone has experience with a folder , how do you pack it , have you had any damage

Re: Cadiz

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 October 2014 - 10:00pm
Just back from this trip (Malaga to Seville) so wanted to say thanks again to all who gave advice.

We approached the coastal section by taking the train from Jimena de la Frontera to Algodonales and riding first to Tarifa. Had intended to use the tracks south of the main road but would have taken a lot longer and weather not great so in the end wnet by main road - not too bad as, like many Spanish roads a decent width of tarmac outwith the vehicle surface. Sadly could only just see Africa through the mist.
From Bolonia (Roman ruins worth a visit), 1.5km off road section worth finding to connect to Zahara.

Approaching Cadiz from the south was, as expected, a challenge. Heading N out of Chiclana there is a gravel track to the West of the road that leads to San Fernando but it isn't easy to find because they are building (though no work going on currently - I suspect another of Spain's stalled infrastructure projects) a new railway between Chiclana and San Fernando. You need to leave the road by Aldi - if you get as far as the roundabout with a boat in it you won't be able to get across the new railway. Once on it this track takes you to the S edge of San Fernando - head N to Bahia Sur station and pick up the track to Cadiz near here. In the end we and bikes got on a train at Bahia Sur to whisk us in to the centre of Cadiz.

Leaving Cadiz via the Rota ferry was a great trip and enjoyed the ride along the via Verde to Sanlucar (stopping off in Chipione) as recommended.
From Sanlucar to Seville the ride on surfaced cycle path through the Algaida pines was lovely, the subsequent road/track along the Guadalquivir less so due to poor surface. We diverted to Lebrija and took the train the rest of the way to Seville.

Getting to Seville airport for an early morning flight was interesting - we were told in the tourist office that it was impossible to cycle there. The city itself has a good network of cycle paths so getting to the outskirts was no problem. Once there there is a service road to the N of the motorway that you can ride on before walking the last 300yds the wrong way up the exit road.
At Seville airport put my bike in CTC bag as usual but was told by baggage handler that it was too big for belt/XR machine and was forced to unpack it, take front wheel off, tape to frame and take saddle off, then repackage (just had enough tape!) - first time that's ever happened.

Thanks again for advice and can provide further tips re other bits of route if anyone interested.

Re: Road Cycle Touring in the Scottish Highlands

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 October 2014 - 9:07pm
I've tried to fill it in, but having ticked 'no' to Q19, I'm unable to proceed to the final page - clicking 'next' just takes me back to the start. I'm using Firefox 32.0.3

Re: Cycling the Portuguese coastline

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 October 2014 - 9:06pm
borisface wrote:Your poorly written blog only appears to offer up 2 days of your trip and fails to establish why the OP should not do it.
Well pardon me for trying to help. Anybody with a modicom of intelligence would have seen that it is a work in progress. Something a, rude, badly mannered soul like you seems to lack.
As for poorly written, I hate to disappoint, but it is followed by quite a few people across Europe, USA and is quite well received.

Re: What to do with your bike if you need to get back in a h

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 October 2014 - 8:56pm
The thought never crossed my mind while touring, though to be honest most of my early touring trips were without phone or Internet so would have no idea about any emergencies. I guess I would just try to find a flight home ASAP, and no would not leave bike behind, entrust my hand built Wester Ross to strangers or pack it off to a charity, not on your Nellie as my mum used to say.

My mum and I did a trip to China and came home to the news that my paternal grandfather had passed on, not much anyone could do with regard to contacting us or us changing flights and the outcome would not have been altered anyway.

Re: Devon Coast to coast

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 October 2014 - 8:55pm
Warning Rode from Marsh Mills to Mary Tavy And back a month or so ago, followed the route 27 signs, from Peter Tavy to Mary Tavy was a rocky footpath, mostly down hill, but still had to walk some parts. Came back on the road to Tavistock, which conversely was predominately downhill. The first part from Tavistock to Peter Tavy is fairly lumpy, swapping between path and lane. I expect you would be using the Brentor route anyway though.
Cheers, Rob.

Re: Touring Map(s) Hebrides & West Coast

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 October 2014 - 8:38pm
For walking on the Black Cuillin Harvey's do a great map 1:25000 and 1:10000 of main ridge. Remember compasses are unreliable on the Cuillin and on the main ridge it is very easy to take the wrong route - one rock looks much like another in the mist! Study the routes in a guidebook carefully before you go. Hopefully the sun will shine out of clear skies for you.

Re: Devon Coast to coast

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 October 2014 - 7:46pm
Thank you so much everyone. Really useful info, loved the maps and the travelogue. Just got an email from islabike to say the new bike arrives on Thursday so junior will have a week to get used to it.

Outline plan is now:
Day one: train to Barnstaple
Cycle Barnstaple to East Yarde Barn approx 16 miles.
Day. 2 cycle East Yarde to Okehampton approx 24 miles.
Day 3 cycle Okehampton to Tavistock approx 22 miles.
Day 4 cycle Tavistock to Plym bridge approx 11 miles and get him indoors to come and collect us.

This should be doable for the 8 year old without too much whinging on his new (to him) Beinn 26 small and for the 11 year old on the brand new Beinn 26 large who could easily take on much more.

I got the Devon coast to coast book in Stanfords this evening.

Re: Cycling the Portuguese coastline

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 October 2014 - 7:44pm
Your poorly written blog only appears to offer up 2 days of your trip and fails to establish why the OP should not do it.

Re: Cycling the Portuguese coastline

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 October 2014 - 7:00pm
I cycled down the coast south from Porto two weeks ago. Don't do it! Story is on my blog.

Re: Help with choosing bike type and/or commute through Lond

CTC Forum - On the road - 21 October 2014 - 6:37pm
Sorry if my reply was unclear – it's tricky without seeing the road but it sounds like filtering would be unwise in this situation. I was originally suggesting filtering to the right of the bus between the stationery traffic you described – but only if there's enough space and vehicles are unlikely to be moving for a while. I rarely find that opportunity. Being stuck behind a bus is frustrating and I would probably merge with outside lane while it's stationery. At slow speeds I wouldn't be holding anyone up, and I wouldn't get held up by the buses.

Edit: Vorpal's post beat me to it

Road Cycle Touring in the Scottish Highlands

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 October 2014 - 6:02pm
I am a student currently studying Road Cycle Touring in the Scottish Highlands as part of my studies in Sustainable Development with the University of the Highlands & Islands. I am researching ways of improving cycle services in the region and It would be great to discuss different aspects of my project in relation to any memorable tours you may have had there, especially if these were in Wester Ross where I live. Of course it would be fantastic too if you didn’t mind completing my survey of road cyclist’s views
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/P379XQL

Re: Advice for tyre size for touring - 32c OK for off-road?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 October 2014 - 5:42pm
Sweep wrote: It's my understanding thst it is a myth that wider tyres are slower on the road.

Some authoritative sounding industry research made this clear I think. Possibly from scwalbe?

Interesting. Never thought about this.

I'm just doing bike trails in NZ, so not extreme off road. I've got 2 back panniers and a handlebar bag. Nothing up front, but I didn't find this a problem handling the bike before.

Ok, well I think a compromise of 35c sounds like a good idea.

Thanks!

Re: Help with choosing bike type and/or commute through Lond

CTC Forum - On the road - 21 October 2014 - 5:42pm
Vorpal wrote:It's probably okay to go between a bus and a queue of stationary cars, if there is room for you (more than just a couple of feet!). You need to be certain that the bus won't move off whilst you are overtaking it. So if you can't see that the bus has just stopped and there are plenty of people to go off and on, it's best to wait behind the bus or for safe filtering on the outside.

Each situation has to be taken on it's own. It's impossible for one of us to say, 'yes, it's safe to filter between a bus and a stationary queue of traffic' without being there. Use your judgement, and if it doesn't feel safe, don't do it

Thanks again.

Re: Baggage allowance- max dimensions

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 October 2014 - 5:37pm
Might it not be cheaper to take a train to London and fly ANZ direct? It might even be sensible, taking into account time, to take a taxi. I did that when I went to NZ from Worcester in 2006 and the fare was £100 each way which is pretty close to your 100 euros to fly the bike. I know prices will be higher now but it might be worth thinking about bearing in mind the door to door service.

Re: Help with choosing bike type and/or commute through Lond

CTC Forum - On the road - 21 October 2014 - 5:35pm
It's probably okay to go between a bus and a queue of stationary cars, if there is room for you (more than just a couple of feet!). You need to be certain that the bus won't move off whilst you are overtaking it. So if you can't see that the bus has just stopped and there are plenty of people to go off and on, it's best to wait behind the bus or for safe filtering on the outside.

Each situation has to be taken on it's own. It's impossible for one of us to say, 'yes, it's safe to filter between a bus and a stationary queue of traffic' without being there. Use your judgement, and if it doesn't feel safe, don't do it

Re: Baggage allowance- max dimensions

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 October 2014 - 5:26pm
Finally managed to get through to Lufthansa on the phone and they told me that there bicycle box charge is EUR100 each way but is not taken out of included 23 kg baggage allowance. So for EUR200 you get 1 x 23 kg/158 cm + a bike box with 'just a bike inside' but unspecified max weight/dimensions (telephone operator unable to specify). I have emailed them to ask for details in writing.
Prefer to fly out of Birmingham so airline choice is restricted. Lufthansa+AirNZ is currently about £300 cheaper than Emirates, even with additional charge for bike box.
Cheaper still is Southern China Airlines, but I can't make sense of their baggage allowances

Re: What to do with your bike if you need to get back in a h

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 October 2014 - 4:57pm
doesn't take any longer to fly with the bike than without it, i don't see a problem Of course if i knew i was gonna be able to go back the suggestions above seem quite reasonable.

Re: Help with choosing bike type and/or commute through Lond

CTC Forum - On the road - 21 October 2014 - 4:52pm
Slow Loris wrote:Were you in a bus lane or a single carriageway? Is your query about filtering on the right or left side of the bus?

I rarely filter on the left unless I'm certain it's safe, and would always avoid the left side of a bus or HGV – in most instances keeping right is much safer, though not hazard-free. If it's gridlock all round and there's sufficient room with no blockages further down, I'd proceed slowly on the right, looking out for space to tuck in if traffic starts moving again. Eye contact with drivers when I need to rejoin the queue generally ensures they give way .

Before filtering, I always ensure I have a decent view ahead, otherwise I'll stay put in primary. Would rather be a slow loris than a flat one . I'd want to keep large vehicles in front unless I can get well past them - leapfrogging buses can be very annoying. In slow moving or stationary traffic I'll keep a good distance behind on the right, so I'm visible in their wing mirror and can see further in front, ready to nip out and filter on the outside if there's room.

Be aware when you're filtering that it's likely another bike or motorbike will be, too. Regular shoulder checks help to avoid nasty surprises.

I pretty much agree with and follow everything you said. In this instance I'm not sure. The bus was stopped at the bus lane and the right lane has stationary traffic. Because of oncoming traffic, you couldn't overtake on the far right. You obviously couldn't overtake on the left either. That leaves the middle. Is it unwise to go between the bus and stationary cars when the bus has only stopped to let passengers on and off?
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