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Re: SUV/Lorry/BMW/Insert/delete as appropriate Driving Too C

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 March 2015 - 3:30pm
reohn2 wrote:You seem to be saying that I don't exercise a 'help-them-get-past' strategy

Nope - didn't want to set that hare running, so studiously avoided commenting on your riding choices and any reasons why mine may be different. I cited two diametrically-opposed approaches as an example of how riding decisions might be informed by this type of behavioural/psychological research.

Re: Does your bike leave your side?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 March 2015 - 3:27pm
Moonwai wrote:But what about if you have valuables in your panniers like laptop/tablet and camera etc. Have to carry all these things around everywhere you go without your bike?

Depends if you're bothered about them being nicked, if it bothers you then carry them for safety, if not then chance it.

A tablet and camera and perhaps even a netbook? would go in a handlebar bag - but as that's all your eggs in one basket you'd need to be careful...

Re: Does your bike leave your side?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 March 2015 - 3:19pm
But what about if you have valuables in your panniers like laptop/tablet and camera etc. Have to carry all these things around everywhere you go without your bike?

Re: Does your bike leave your side?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 March 2015 - 3:15pm
Moonwai wrote: where do you keep your bike if you want to go on a walk through a village and take some photos etc or is the bike always by your side?The same applies when you go to take a shower or into the toilet block. Do you take it with you? The sensible answer is to judge each situation individually. I leave mine locked to something like a tree, or even a hedge or a fence - just to make things difficult. Then, off I go for a shower. The circumstances are surely no different than when you go into a café/bank/museum etc which is often discussed here.

Re: SUV/Lorry/BMW/Insert/delete as appropriate Driving Too C

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 March 2015 - 3:15pm
DevonDamo wrote:I have my own theories, based on my own experience on the road, of what goes through other people's minds and how that translates into behaviour. We won't agree...

However, my point is this: with polarised issues such as this one, forum discussions produce more heat than light. Wouldn't it be nice to have some good quality, rigorous research which can actually tell you 'if you do x, then your chances of experiencing y increase/decrease by whatever percentage.' In other words, find out how the world is, rather than how the highway code states it ought to be. You're free to choose your approach, e.g. asserting your rights on the road versus 'help-them-get-past', but information of this type would help you decide your most effective strategy to stay out of harm's way.

I'm intrigued by the 'helmets incite closer overtakes' hypothesis, and surprised that psychological/behavioural issues of this type don't get much of a look-in when it comes to research. I believe them to be orders of magnitude more important to our safety on the road than the CE marking of pedal reflectors or whatever else the cycling safety budgets are spent on.

I agree. I often go on youtube to find some useful tips on cycling. But most of the time they emphasize the behaviour of the cager and less how to stay in one piece. I might create a video call "Road Coward". I will not confront drivers or remember his reg-number. I will instruct cyclist how to avoid having issues.

Re: Does your bike leave your side?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 March 2015 - 2:59pm
depends on the distance from campsite to village i guess, but usually just leave bike behind.... with a lock to prevent opportunist walk off with it... but most rural places it is unlikely a bike would be targetted as they would need to know you are arriving....

Re: Tour of Brittany

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 March 2015 - 2:49pm
simonineaston wrote:OK, BB et al, you've succeeded in persuading me! I'm clicking on my Leave Booking app as we speak!!

If you regret it you can sue;-)

Re: Tour of Brittany

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 March 2015 - 2:32pm
OK, BB et al, you've succeeded in persuading me! I'm clicking on my Leave Booking app as we speak!!

Re: so when do the shorts come out?

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 March 2015 - 2:08pm
I'm in winter gear until double digit temps. Was reading an article on this subject a few weeks ago about micro tearing of muscle if you get cold which could explain any little niggles. Can always do a quick strip at the tea shop if it gets warm mid-route.

Re: Travel Insurance North America

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 March 2015 - 2:03pm
CTC insurance would be my recommendation. Most other policies tend to be a bit sniffy about adventurous pursuits and may not offer a sufficently lenghty period of cover.

Re: so when do the shorts come out?

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 March 2015 - 1:51pm
ChrisButch wrote:I was lectured very strictly about this by my father, who grew up in the club culture of the 1920s/30s. Shorts were never to be worn before May, because of the risk of muscle damage. Of course naming a date is arbitrary, because of the variability of the seasons: but I've always stuck with the principle, and I still wince when I see riders in shorts in the middle of winter (of whom there seem to be an increasing number).
I was also lectured on this by an old Belgian "roadie". Basically don't wear shorts unless it's over 20C. If the weather is very cold ( I usually work on 10C) wear long thermal underwear under the top layer. I think this was good advice in protecting the knees ( at least I've made it to my early 70's without any knee problems)

Re: Does your bike leave your side?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 March 2015 - 1:49pm
u take your bike for walkies on a lead?

Re: SUV/Lorry/BMW/Insert/delete as appropriate Driving Too C

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 March 2015 - 1:39pm
pwa wrote:Reohn2

I ride assertively, as you describe it, controlling things when I need to. But my relatively few actual physical contacts with vehicles (2 in 45+ years on the road) have been due to dopey / inattentive driving rather than aggression. One vehicle was a van, the second a small hatchback driven by a very elderly man.

My only contact with another vehicle whilst cycling was a few weeks ago when a large VW peole carrier/SUV(?)overtook me and clipped my right hand with his wing mirror which left a bruise that I only noticed when I took my glove off at a cafe stop later on.
His reaction was to stick two fingers up to me after he passed by.He knew exactly what he was doing IMHO.

Re: SUV/Lorry/BMW/Insert/delete as appropriate Driving Too C

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 March 2015 - 1:32pm
Reohn2

I ride assertively, as you describe it, controlling things when I need to. But my relatively few actual physical contacts with vehicles (2 in 45+ years on the road) have been due to dopey / inattentive driving rather than aggression. One vehicle was a van, the second a small hatchback driven by a very elderly man.

Does your bike leave your side?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 March 2015 - 1:30pm
I have been doing a lot of reading about touring trips and reading a lot of touring journals on crazyguyonabike.com and one of the things I have been wondering is...

If you are away on a round the world trip lets say and are camping every night, where do you keep your bike if you want to go on a walk through a village and take some photos etc or is the bike always by your side?

Re: Grab Theft - handle bar kit

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 March 2015 - 1:29pm
So no none white people are more likely to get falsely arrested,convicted,beaten to death or shot in America!?
I guess some folks have not seen the news in the last century

Not just America. It happens here in England as well.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YU6I4f3UaM



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/1 ... 24684.html

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... -race-data

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=relea ... 7Aa06IGQDg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R9pycMBezM

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/trayvon-martin

It's ok, because the President is mixed race

It's nice to live in a country where you are not profiled by your race let alone your sex.

Re: so when do the shorts come out?

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 March 2015 - 1:27pm
Spinners wrote:pete75 wrote:If you're a postman they never go away.....

What IS that all about?

apparently a nationwide phenomena.

Re: SUV/Lorry/BMW/Insert/delete as appropriate Driving Too C

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 March 2015 - 1:24pm
DevonDamo wrote:Above, Reohn describes a precautionary approach: assume the person behind will attempt a dangerous manoeuvre and take action to prevent that. I have a different approach - ride in such a way that signals I'm doing everything I can to let the following person get past.
Mine's one of ''I'm vulnerable because I'm not surrounded by a tin box and belted in with over 100HP under my right foot,so if it's not safe for ME for you to pass,I'll block your passage until I think it is''
It's termed as 'assertive riding' and I've practised it for a very long time.
I'm under the impression the overwhelming majority of drivers understand why I ride the way I do because it's logical and a common sense approach.
It's the significant minority split in two groups a)the stupid one's who can't read what's going on because either they're thick or are 'elsewhere'(more than likely using a mobile these days) or b) the 'horned ones',the aggressive drivers who take exception to anything and more so a cyclist,getting in their way,the people with an attitude that they are far more important than anyone else.
And more often than not think cyclists should either be off the roads entirely or should ride in the gutter out of their way.These people can become even more aggressive when encountering a group of cyclists.
The second group IME are more likely though not exclusively, to drive prestige or SUV type vehicles or are more likely have 'vanity' reg plates.

PS,yes I'm stereo typing but I'm afraid that is my experience over a long time driving and cycling,and I believe it's becoming worse.The UK's low and aggressive driving standards are never more apparent than after a period of driving and riding on the continent

Re: so when do the shorts come out?

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 March 2015 - 1:14pm
pete75 wrote:If you're a postman they never go away.....

What IS that all about?

Re: so when do the shorts come out?

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 March 2015 - 1:10pm
I was lectured very strictly about this by my father, who grew up in the club culture of the 1920s/30s. Shorts were never to be worn before May, because of the risk of muscle damage. Of course naming a date is arbitrary, because of the variability of the seasons: but I've always stuck with the principle, and I still wince when I see riders in shorts in the middle of winter (of whom there seem to be an increasing number).
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