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Re: SUV/Lorry/BMW/Insert/delete as appropriate Driving Too C

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 March 2015 - 4:47pm
This is one of those endless debates which I only get involved in when I feel the need to do some taxi-driver style venting. We all think the world wants to hear the conclusions we've drawn from our anecdotal evidence, but we'd need something more objective to get either side to move their entrenched positions. So for now I'll just settle for hoping that some european-funded research body or desperate undergraduate decides to have a scratch around in this area.

Re: so when do the shorts come out?

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 March 2015 - 4:37pm
I changed the bike to summer tyres a few weeks ago and ditched the builder's fleece and the thermal(ish) long johns for under my shorts.

The summer tyres are still on the bike - though it did snow apparently during the day yesterday.

The long johns and fleece went back on after two or three days. The fleece was on because my arms were cold - felt like someone had poured boiling water over them. That's not too bad. The long johns were back on because my knees hurt, a deep pain. It didn't feel like a damaging type of pain - but I did wonder whether it was doing me any good - so the long johns are back for another few weeks at least. Actually, thinking about it - when I was on Earlies I wore my long johns going into work at 6 am and ditched them for the ride home at 3. I'm on Nights this week which is an 8:30 pm ride in and a 7 am ride home - so I've not thought twice about wearing warmer clothes.

I think that it's an age thing (for me). I never used to be affected by the cold but that seems to have changed over the last year or two.

Re: so when do the shorts come out?

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 March 2015 - 4:30pm
Still FAR too cold here.
I'm wearing sandals now instead of shoes in "normal" clothes, but shorts not until the weather is warm.

Although the sun is nice and warm, the wind is quite cold. I rode out yesterday and wished I'd worn gloves, so shorts wearing is a long way off yet.

Temp gets to about 9 or 10degC or perhaps 12degC ............... and with a damned chilly wind.

Re: Anyone not been hit by a car

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 March 2015 - 4:23pm
Touch wood i have not been hit by car despite riding a bike reguarly since i was 10 years old (over 25 years ago), even when i was a teenager i had a job delivering prescriptions to the elderly/disabled spending many dark winter nights on the road covering many miles per round, only run in i had was with a police car who told me to get on the kerb, can not win as i thought even as a teenager back then i should have been on the road, was very aggresive as he said "there is the kerb there now get on it". Have had a few close calls over the years but nothing to write home about.

Re: Travel Insurance North America

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 March 2015 - 4:09pm
I thought my travel insurance covered me for touring but it didn't, apparently touring on a bike is regarded as a dangerous activity by some insurers. It wasn't listed on the policy as a dangerous activity but when I asked them the question they said it was. I then changed to AXA who included cover for cycle touring but I can only suggest whichever company you go with make sure you ask them specifically if touring on a bike is included and if they say yes make a note of the date and time of the conversation just in case they quibble later! I may have got this wrong but I am sure I have read the CTC policy doesn't - but that may be a libellous remark and someone will put me firmly right in a moment!

Re: SUV/Lorry/BMW/Insert/delete as appropriate Driving Too C

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 March 2015 - 4:05pm
DevonDamo wrote:reohn2 wrote:You seem to be saying that I don't exercise a 'help-them-get-past' strategy

Nope - didn't want to set that hare running, so studiously avoided commenting on your riding choices and any reasons why mine may be different. I cited two diametrically-opposed approaches as an example of how riding decisions might be informed by this type of behavioural/psychological research.

Until you post some of your views/ideas what goes through drivers minds I fail to see how we can even begin sort out this thread
To clarify,my view is that the vast majority of motorist exercise caution and courtesy around cyclists,however a significant albeit small minority either don't know how to treat cyclists or don't care.
The former simply don't realise their effect on cyclists and vulnerable road users,the latter simply don't care,either way contact or a collision with a cyclist by either results to the same outcome,they remain safe,cyclist comes off worst to a lesser or greater degree and at worst ends up dead.
The only time I'm absolutely sure which is which is when and if get to have a word with them about the effect their bad driving is having on me,their response to informing them how close they were to me,is usually the give away .

My riding strategy is a simple one,keep safe by being prominent on the road(riding in secondary position) and when I consider the need for my safety to be increased,take the lane(ride in primary).Always indicate clearly my intentions when turning etc.
Trust no one,consider all other traffic on the road to be driven by madmen and lunatics who may do anything at any time,maintain the Boy Scout motto 'be prepared' (for anything).
Trust is a luxury I can't afford other road users.
The intentions of others I can't do much about,but I can influence their decisions by strategy.

Re: so when do the shorts come out?

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 March 2015 - 3:40pm
My shorts came out in February, but only for commuting.(People at work think I'm well 'ard ). Been a bit fresh around the knee department, mind, but that's only to be expected this time of year.

Re: Travel Insurance North America

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 March 2015 - 3:38pm
Are you on a long tour?
Some companies have a limit of just 28 days (most 45/60days) per single trip even on annual insurance, so check the small print if on a long tour.
I think £10M is the minimum recommended for medical cover in USA these days

Re: SUV/Lorry/BMW/Insert/delete as appropriate Driving Too C

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 March 2015 - 3:30pm
reohn2 wrote:You seem to be saying that I don't exercise a 'help-them-get-past' strategy

Nope - didn't want to set that hare running, so studiously avoided commenting on your riding choices and any reasons why mine may be different. I cited two diametrically-opposed approaches as an example of how riding decisions might be informed by this type of behavioural/psychological research.

Re: Does your bike leave your side?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 March 2015 - 3:27pm
Moonwai wrote:But what about if you have valuables in your panniers like laptop/tablet and camera etc. Have to carry all these things around everywhere you go without your bike?

Depends if you're bothered about them being nicked, if it bothers you then carry them for safety, if not then chance it.

A tablet and camera and perhaps even a netbook? would go in a handlebar bag - but as that's all your eggs in one basket you'd need to be careful...

Re: Does your bike leave your side?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 March 2015 - 3:19pm
But what about if you have valuables in your panniers like laptop/tablet and camera etc. Have to carry all these things around everywhere you go without your bike?

Re: Does your bike leave your side?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 March 2015 - 3:15pm
Moonwai wrote: where do you keep your bike if you want to go on a walk through a village and take some photos etc or is the bike always by your side?The same applies when you go to take a shower or into the toilet block. Do you take it with you? The sensible answer is to judge each situation individually. I leave mine locked to something like a tree, or even a hedge or a fence - just to make things difficult. Then, off I go for a shower. The circumstances are surely no different than when you go into a café/bank/museum etc which is often discussed here.

Re: SUV/Lorry/BMW/Insert/delete as appropriate Driving Too C

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 March 2015 - 3:15pm
DevonDamo wrote:I have my own theories, based on my own experience on the road, of what goes through other people's minds and how that translates into behaviour. We won't agree...

However, my point is this: with polarised issues such as this one, forum discussions produce more heat than light. Wouldn't it be nice to have some good quality, rigorous research which can actually tell you 'if you do x, then your chances of experiencing y increase/decrease by whatever percentage.' In other words, find out how the world is, rather than how the highway code states it ought to be. You're free to choose your approach, e.g. asserting your rights on the road versus 'help-them-get-past', but information of this type would help you decide your most effective strategy to stay out of harm's way.

I'm intrigued by the 'helmets incite closer overtakes' hypothesis, and surprised that psychological/behavioural issues of this type don't get much of a look-in when it comes to research. I believe them to be orders of magnitude more important to our safety on the road than the CE marking of pedal reflectors or whatever else the cycling safety budgets are spent on.

I agree. I often go on youtube to find some useful tips on cycling. But most of the time they emphasize the behaviour of the cager and less how to stay in one piece. I might create a video call "Road Coward". I will not confront drivers or remember his reg-number. I will instruct cyclist how to avoid having issues.

Re: Does your bike leave your side?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 March 2015 - 2:59pm
depends on the distance from campsite to village i guess, but usually just leave bike behind.... with a lock to prevent opportunist walk off with it... but most rural places it is unlikely a bike would be targetted as they would need to know you are arriving....

Re: Tour of Brittany

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 March 2015 - 2:49pm
simonineaston wrote:OK, BB et al, you've succeeded in persuading me! I'm clicking on my Leave Booking app as we speak!!

If you regret it you can sue;-)

Re: Tour of Brittany

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 March 2015 - 2:32pm
OK, BB et al, you've succeeded in persuading me! I'm clicking on my Leave Booking app as we speak!!

Re: so when do the shorts come out?

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 March 2015 - 2:08pm
I'm in winter gear until double digit temps. Was reading an article on this subject a few weeks ago about micro tearing of muscle if you get cold which could explain any little niggles. Can always do a quick strip at the tea shop if it gets warm mid-route.

Re: Travel Insurance North America

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 March 2015 - 2:03pm
CTC insurance would be my recommendation. Most other policies tend to be a bit sniffy about adventurous pursuits and may not offer a sufficently lenghty period of cover.

Re: so when do the shorts come out?

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 March 2015 - 1:51pm
ChrisButch wrote:I was lectured very strictly about this by my father, who grew up in the club culture of the 1920s/30s. Shorts were never to be worn before May, because of the risk of muscle damage. Of course naming a date is arbitrary, because of the variability of the seasons: but I've always stuck with the principle, and I still wince when I see riders in shorts in the middle of winter (of whom there seem to be an increasing number).
I was also lectured on this by an old Belgian "roadie". Basically don't wear shorts unless it's over 20C. If the weather is very cold ( I usually work on 10C) wear long thermal underwear under the top layer. I think this was good advice in protecting the knees ( at least I've made it to my early 70's without any knee problems)

Re: Does your bike leave your side?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 March 2015 - 1:49pm
u take your bike for walkies on a lead?
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