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Re: NCN 82 from Tywyn to Trawsfynydd

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 May 2015 - 9:19pm
I think the official NCN 82 route has switched to and from Sarn Helen, but yes, don't go over Sarn Helen - it's unrideable. If you have a GPS with an NCN map on then take it, otherwise take a print-out - finding the right track isn't too obvious.

Worth doing, though, it's a great route. I'd probably go for the Landcruisers tbh, but you may be more hardy than me!

Re: Question about this video

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 May 2015 - 9:19pm
There is a world of difference between observing that someone appears not to have taken every possible precaution and suggesting that therefore the subsequent accident is their fault. The truck driver is clearly the one at fault here. His forward observation is inadequate. He might have seen the cyclists but has not reacted to their presence. He has swerved from what appears to be an exit slip back onto what I believe to be the main carriageway, crossing the chevrons to do so. Really, it is a waste of time even discussing who is at fault.

The cyclists situation is unusual (I hope) by UK standards. You could almost be forgiven for believing them to be on a motorway! They appear to have successfully negotiated a stretch of road in which two lanes are created to carry off traffic leaving the main flow. They are in the equivalent of the nearside lane, positioned close to the "nearside" limit- the line which borders the chevrons. The lead rider parts company with this line when a new lane divider diverges from it, and almost straight away signals a move to the "nearside" ie. into the newly emerging "nearside" lane.

Personally I would have stayed close to the chevron boundary, but doing what he did almost certainly saved his life, so I'm not criticising...


FWIW there is a point on the M6 Southbound at the Eastern edge of Birmingham, near Water Orton, where two lanes leave the M6 to join the M42N that appears to be an almost exact mirror image of the location for this video. Having a quick peek on Google Earth may help to understand the scene. About half way along the M6 side of the chevrons you can see a new lane divider emerge. That's comparable to the location of the incident.

When I go through here in a truck I just follow the chevron edge into the new lane in a smooth sweep. My experience has been that if I do not take the lane as it appears it won't be long before some Herbert starts to come up on my inside. I do the same in a car, and why not? after all, I'm protected by those chevrons...
Thought provoking.
I hope that lot is some help!

Re: NCN 82 from Tywyn to Trawsfynydd

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 May 2015 - 9:14pm
CREPELLO wrote:Hi

I've done both off road sections on a tourer in the past - that being, the hill road up from the Dysynni valley and Coed Y Brenin. Tyres would have been 32 to 35mm section. Just make sure you avoid the old road (Sarn Helen?) west of Moel Ddu, which is very rutted. It's not on a cycle route, but I missed the Route 82 signs (if they were there) in Coed Y Brenin and ended up on this track, which I had to walk. The hill road east of Coed Y Brenin is also an alternative which is nice going.

HTH

Thanks Jerry - info much appreciated

Re: Share the space drop your pace

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 May 2015 - 9:14pm
Mark1978 wrote:They aren't allowed to use nets shurely?

They use keepnets and landing nets,both of which are very fish friendly so the fish are returned in good health.
It's worth mentioning that anglers are usually the first people to note any pollution in the waterways,due to their direct contact with them.

Re: Share the space drop your pace

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 May 2015 - 9:10pm
Bonefishblues wrote:I was alluding to the protection and conservation of precious habitats, echoing your comments.

Ah,I get you now .

Re: Share the space drop your pace

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 May 2015 - 9:04pm
reohn2 wrote:Bonefishblues wrote:This. As ever one remembers the exceptions rather than the rule, but fishermen make a net contribution overall, I'd say.

Do you mean a net contribution to the upkeep of the canals or a contribution to the problem?
I do agree we do remember the exceptions but then it's the exceptions that cause all the problems .
The vast majority of people of any group are OK it's the significant minority that concern us.
I was alluding to the protection and conservation of precious habitats, echoing your comments.

Re: Share the space drop your pace

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 May 2015 - 9:01pm
They aren't allowed to use nets shurely?

Re: Share the space drop your pace

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 May 2015 - 8:58pm
Bonefishblues wrote:This. As ever one remembers the exceptions rather than the rule, but fishermen make a net contribution overall, I'd say.

Do you mean a net contribution to the upkeep of the canals or a contribution to the problem?
I do agree we do remember the exceptions but then it's the exceptions that cause all the problems .
The vast majority of people of any group are OK it's the significant minority that concern us.

Re: NCN 82 from Tywyn to Trawsfynydd

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 May 2015 - 8:25pm
Hi

I've done both off road sections on a tourer in the past - that being, the hill road up from the Dysynni valley and Coed Y Brenin. Tyres would have been 32 to 35mm section. Just make sure you avoid the old road (Sarn Helen?) west of Moel Ddu, which is very rutted. It's not on a cycle route, but I missed the Route 82 signs (if they were there) in Coed Y Brenin and ended up on this track, which I had to walk. The hill road east of Coed Y Brenin is also an alternative which is nice going.

HTH

Re: Share the space drop your pace

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 May 2015 - 8:15pm
reohn2 wrote:ian s wrote:Guilty as charged, apart from what I have seen them do, I am indeed completely ignorant of the ways of fisherman. As an occasional user of both the canals and the canal towpaths I simply find their attitude of superiority infuriating. The canals were put there for boating traffic, not for fisherfolk, and they should not forget that

And the roads weren't initially built for cars but hey ho! guess what?
Canals were built for haulage pure and simple,they served no other purpose,until that haulage was moved to the railways and latterly to the roads.The canals were then left to decline until the age of the leisure boater and certain pollution laws.
So when you claim canals are there for only boat traffic you're right,that boat traffic has also meant a cleaning up of water quality from the filth of even only 40years ago,and as a result the angling clubs stocked a lot of canals with fish to facilitate their sport/pastime.

I agree some people have a superiority complex,that's across the board and not confined to just the angling community,as I posted before.
I believe it to be mainly a UK 'disease' due to the despicable class system that pervades UK society generally.The ''you are what you have'' outlook made popular by consumerism.....

It may be worth mentioning that anglers pay to fish both through their national rod licence and club ownership of angling rights to some stretches of canal,which may explain some of their unnecessary arrogance,not that I agree in any way with their attitude,a bit like some motorists claim cyclists shouldn't be on the roads as they don't pay ''road tax'' .
BTW I find the best way to deal with unnecessarily obstructive anglers with their pole blocking the towpath is get off the bike and make to stride over it carrying the bike,it's amazing how quick they move it .
TBH I find an element of UK society who couldn't care less for anything or anyone else but self to be appalling especially on the roads and shared paths,when I travel abroad I don't find to be anywhere near as evident ,in fact totally absent IME .
This. As ever one remembers the exceptions rather than the rule, but fishermen make a net contribution overall, I'd say.

Re: Heathrow Terminals 1, 2 and 3: Cycling out of?

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 May 2015 - 7:25pm
Can you keep them boxed and take them on the train as luggage? Boxed bikes are usually considered luggage, rather than bikes. That's what I have done the only time I've gone to & from Heathrow with my bike. Otherwise, you'll have to wait for someone who has local knowledge.

Re: Snarky safety notice anyone?

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 May 2015 - 6:30pm
Si wrote:I would be more put out by the comment: "Avoid areas involving motorised vehicles"...surely it's up to the parent to decide if their child can ride in such areas and has nothing to do with what bike they are on (or do these particular bikes spontaneously explode if they come within 10yds of a car)?

I've taken 4-6yos out who, under appropriate supervision, were perfectly safe on minor roads, and were riding somewhat less nice than the cnoc ones.


Presumably therefore they suggest that their other bikes give protection against motor vehicles?

Getting your bike to Harwich for the ferry

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 May 2015 - 6:29pm
Since Abellio is run by the Dutch who like to think they are cycle-friendly, there was me thinking it would be relatively straightforward to get our family with bikes to Harwich International for the ferry for the Netherlands. (My wife has already had to swallow the idea that we will have to cycle across central London between stations as it will be too early to be allowed onto the Circle Line, less than ideal with an 8-yr-old.)

But apparently not. The direct ferry special train to Harwich International at 1932 from Liverpool St has 4 non-bookable cycle spaces, so that's a risk, since maybe we are not the only cyclists trying to do this. We could take the 1930 or the 2000 to Manningtree to connect for the local service from M to H. These trains have 6 cycle spaces, but as they are intercity services you have to phone them to book them at least 24 hours in advance. There are also slow trains to Manningtree which require no cycle reservation, but if I took the first slow train to M after the 1932, we would be there too late for the 2245 last check-in time for the 2300 ferry, as it doesn't connect well at Manningtree. I could go earlier, since apparently you can put your bikes on a train from 1830 (the only hint of a relatively cycle friendly policy from this company) but then I'd have to pay peak fares, as off-peak fares are not valid before 1930 on Abellio trains, which, for the family of 3, would add an extra £75 to our journey cost, which is just disproportionate.

Well their anti-social cycle policies mean that I will now have to engage in the anti-social behaviour of booking cycle spaces on a train I don't want to use, just as an insurance policy.

I'm sure most people would have given up and driven there.

Cycling Chester to Bowland

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 May 2015 - 6:00pm
Hi
I am thinking of cycling from Chester to Slaidburn in the Forest of Bowland in a couple of weeks. I wonder if anyone has any idea of the best way to go. I will be on a road bike, so don't want canal tow paths. I would like to avoid main roads where possible, and busy town centres. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks

Re: A Sad Day for Google Maps

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 May 2015 - 5:51pm
axel_knutt wrote:I've just noticed that the new Google maps has Cressing Station at the top of Marconi Road in Chelmsford. If you measure the distance from where it's shown to where it belongs, Google says it's 1 min and 56 feet away, instead of about 10 miles.
Seems to be OK now. There must have been a glitch somewhere.

I had been going to say I couldn't see the problem with the new Google Maps. OK there were a few teething problems early on. But then I had to switch browsers temporarily which I sorted problems with Firefox (I think one or more add-ons didn't like the latest version) and was using Internet Exploder. What a difference - majorly slow loading! I'm glad to be back on Firefox where Google Maps seems to be working OK for me, along with other mapping tools I use.

Re: Islabikes Bienn 29 - tourer for a titch?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 May 2015 - 5:40pm
If you want to come to Brum we have a 26" wheel Mercian Compact drop bared touring bike that if it fits we could sell you for about £200.
It is in nice condition and has touring gears with short cranks to match.
It is suitable for somebody just under 5ft.
Tempting! Thanks. I'm somewhat taller than that though, about 5' 2-3" and haven't got on with drops particularly well in the past - are they quite small? I know manufacturers have adapted drops to cater for smaller hands.

Re: Snarky safety notice anyone?

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 May 2015 - 4:24pm
I got one of those notices. It's certainly a "CYA" notice, but it did make me smile - as I have occasionally been known to ride my son's CNOC 14 when he seems reluctant to. I'm obviously not alone!

I won't be returning the bike - but I may give the welding on the frame the once over.....

Re: Paneuropa Radweg - France

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 May 2015 - 4:05pm
Thanks, as suspected the signs won't be as lovely as when we did the Rhine last year.

I am planning to map the route using maps.me on an ipod. The ipod has GPS and I bookmark key points on the map. Combined with a pen and piece of paper of the daily route, I hope this works. I've tried to import the paneuropa radweg GPS into maps.me and it's not working so I'm manually bookmarking.

We've done a few long distance cycles, not necessarily on national routes and navigation always seems to be a problem, not getting lost, more the constant stopping to check direction takes so much time!

Re: Share the space drop your pace

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 May 2015 - 3:47pm
Si wrote:BTW I find the best way to deal with unnecessarily obstructive anglers with their pole blocking the towpath is get off the bike and make to stride over it carrying the bike,it's amazing how quick they move it .

Naaaaaaa, stay on the bike and bunny hop it. <joke>

I'll try that on the raptobike...

Re: Roadcycling fimed whit pro drone in 4k definition

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 May 2015 - 3:21pm
No they are not odd they are black on 1 side and white on the other so it looks like they are odd, u have a clever eye for style
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