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Re: Schwalbe Marathon vs Marathon Plus

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 17 June 2015 - 11:33am
What tyre pressure do you use? And what kind of terrain, mostly roads? I'm also not sure whether inner tube quality makes a difference but I tend to use proper brands rather than the cheap Decathlon-style ones.

My girlfriend & I did 4000km around Europe a couple of years ago with the basic Marathon tyres and had zero punctures but I guess a lot is down to luck!

Re: Schwalbe Marathon vs Marathon Plus

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 17 June 2015 - 11:18am
That sounds like a really nice trip. Personally, I think there is a problem with very puncture resistant tyres. They can be less flexible and therefore harsher and with higher rolling resistance, and they can be heavier and therefore more tiring. It is a matter of finding the right balance. I have not tested Marathon Supremes, but I put a pair on my wife's bike recently and they look and feel like very well made tyres for swift touring. They have tread extending part way up the side of the tyre, which promises resistance to sidewall damage, and they have a reasonable but not excessive depth of tread. The weight is reasonably low, and they feel flexible. I imagine (but do not know) that they are good at resisting punctures. Oh, and they are expensive. They may be the best you can get for your tour.

Re: Why cycling in the UK is so scary (Gaurdian)

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 June 2015 - 11:18am
I had a heart in mouth scenario yesterday as I was going down a single track in northumberland. I know the quiet backroad well and on the descent of the slight gradient I tend to feather my brakes as I'm aware of 4x4's coming up the hill at quite fast speeds and they have limited view as the road has a slight curve so blind for both parties. I go by sound so I can hear the vehicle.... well yesterday the sound I could hear was loud, a big diesel, sure enough I came face to face with a huge tractor. I braked and went as close into the verge/stonewall and stopped but he had to also stop as there was basically zero room for error. All I could see was the 6-7ft tractor wheel spinning toward me, on the back was a giant pronged rake which then passed me. He was travelling at about 25mph when he saw me, so not fast but for something that size it is, face to face these things are enormous. Unlike a car for me it's the fact that if you hit the verge and lost balance you'd be under the tractor wheel, I think that would put many newbie cyclists off.
Is it me or are modern british farm tractors, like so many vehicles SUV's, Nissan Jukes( designer must have major sight issues, hideous ) getting inflated. There's a good skoda advert playing on that idea. Our fields are no larger but we seem to have adopted american sized tractors. When the arable crops are harvested at the end of my street you'd be well advised to keep the bike indoors as the speed of the tractor+grain trailers is frightening..... but at the end of the day the vehicles can't kill us, they are inert objects, it's the operators who can as it's their brain in control or not.
I also think one of the possible reasons people drive too fast is that we rarely do emergency stops and modern cars insulate us from the speed, then sadly the day we may need to, it dawns on us just how long it takes to actually do so. Standing in court we may wish we could turn back time. So many other aspects of motoring we do day in, day out improving our skills and judgement ( parallel parking, driving through narrow gaps etc ) but emergency stops tend to be an "on demand" feature. I think the advent of electronic distance and braking systems may assist us here...... but many don't like the idea, yet would we want to live without ABS, so only a matter of time.

Re: Touring Cassette

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 17 June 2015 - 11:12am
I suppose a lot depends on how much stuff you are carrying too. I like the 22t front - 36t rear for hauling my full loaded bike up loooooong steep hills.

Very needed coming through wales.

Re: Help settle an argument

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 June 2015 - 11:07am
Vantage wrote:Everyone has a duty of care.
Damage is damage. As I said in my first reply to this thread, the cyclist is lucky it wasn't a 40 ton truck he pulled out in front of. The driver of the truck wouldn't have been killed, but he/she would still have to deal with the trauma of killing someone through no fault of their own.
If the truck killed someone who moved out by 2 feet then why would you think that was OK?

On another thread you're complaining about driver behaviour and how dangerous some roads are. Why is that? Seems to me that if you find such close overtaking to be safe then whats the issue?
My gripe here is IMO this is just another example of impatient motorists who can't be bothered waiting a few seconds until there's a decent opportunity to overtake safely. Had they been willing to do that the horn wouldn't have been needed.

Re: Glasgow commuter cyclists - report the fault

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 June 2015 - 11:05am
South Lanarkshire does! I commonly report pot holes and usually within a month they are dealt with, depending on the pothole depth. I understand once it is reported someone has to go out and assess it. Once assessed it is prioritised. I think the reporting system is great. Let's face it, the roads department can't be everywhere and we all need to take some responsibility to make things better within our communities

Re: Bus passes

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 June 2015 - 11:05am
tyreon wrote:Mercalia: You lucky B! You get free tube travel! When I'm down in London I'm consigned to buses,my bus pass refused by Tube staff and Duffer Boris. Guess you can travel gratis up here,but I have restrictions. Discrimination anyone?

well the buses in london not that bad? I often use them as I live in South London and many bus stops have those electronic boards telling u when the next will come or u can use your mobile to find out. I think some counties have their own additional perks like we have in London over and above the free bus? I suppose we should think our selves lucky that Osborne is frightened to take on the oaps and that the bus pass isnt in the cuts. Has saved me lots of money.

Re: Bus passes

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 June 2015 - 11:01am
mercalia wrote:Mick F wrote:mercalia wrote:its the female age they use dont they? not the male pension ageThey are going to be the same at aged 66.
I've scraped through at 65 (born 1952), but Mrs Mick F is going to be 66. (born 1956)
eh 65? I am the same age born 1952 but got mine last march when 62.5, before had the London only 60+ cardI was referring the the OAP age.

Bus Passes used to be available from age 60, but over the next few years that is going to change to the OAP age.
I'm a Nov '52 baby and I'm entitled to my Bus Pass next month. I'll be 62y 8m old.

My OAP will start on my 65th birthday.
Mrs Mick F is a March '56 baby and her OP won't start until her 66th birthday when I'll be nearly 70. We had planned to get our OAPs in the same year, but that's now gone out the window!

You can get a "Senior" railcard from age 60 even now and other senior benefits in shops etc too.

Schwalbe Marathon vs Marathon Plus

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 17 June 2015 - 10:54am

I have a Dawes Galaxy Plus with Schwalbe Marathon tyres. I did a tour of the south coast of England last year from Margate to Land's End and had four punctures. I am looking to minimise this possibility on my next trip from Calais to Montpellier. I was wondering if anyone has any views on whether it would be beneficial to upgrade these tyres - perhaps to the Marathon Plus Tour? or any other recommendations?

Many thanks

Re: Why cycling in the UK is so scary (Gaurdian)

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 June 2015 - 10:17am
Aaaaaahhhh those lanes look gorgeous!
Thanks John, I'll be trying those out soon

Re: Help settle an argument

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 June 2015 - 10:13am
Vantage wrote:Probably because there are a couple 'knobs' (I'm quoting plus it seems ok to insult other forumites despite forum rules or there is favouritism going on) on this forum who will stick up for every cyclist regardless of whether they are in the right or wrong.
I don't stick up for every cyclist, nor do I even attempt to defend this cyclist (other than to rubbish some of the overly excited rubbish - like "erratic cycling"). I've posted many times about poor standards of cycling but IMO that's not what this thread is about.
If a cyclist wants to kill themselves then that's their decision, they're unlikely to kill anyone else.
Motorists on the other hand have a duty of care - one which they supposedly have been taught and tested on.

As for insults did I insult you directly? If so then I guess that's because you felt you'd fail the test.
You'd have to be a knob to not realise what could happen when coming up on a couple of cyclists

Re: Help settle an argument

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 June 2015 - 10:06am
Vantage wrote:This is no different than travelling on a motorway at 70mph, changing lane to overtake a 60mph car in front and being hit from behind by an 80mph car which you didn't check for and failed to indicate to.
No it isn't.

If the driver had intended to overtake the cyclist and leave enough space then it wouldn't have mattered there'd still be loads of space.
Incidentally, don't know about you but if I'm travelling along the motorway I pay attention to vehicles that *may* require to move out. Not everyone indicates and being "in the right" isn't the same as 'avoiding the issue in the first place'.
Now *that* is being observant.

IMO the cyclist is responsible for their own safety, if they make a mistake they pay. What shouldn't happen is they pay for the mistakes of drivers that are inept and can't be bothered keeping an eye out or too lazy to make any form of prediction. Even the best cyclist on occasion may need to move a couple of feet either side - even if it's just due to a sudden gust of wind.
If you're not leaving space your at best an idiot and at worst a criminal. Reading this thread it's fast becoming obvious to me why so many drivers are literally getting away with murder because lets face it if cyclists think like this what must non-cyclists think?

Re: Brookes Cambium Saddle

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 17 June 2015 - 9:54am
I had a Brooks which, in rainy weather, I rode with the Brooks nylon rain cover in place. It felt fine in padded shorts and avoided the worry of what long periods of rain might do to the leather.

The Cambium saddles are made in Italy, not by Brooks, and are a different product altogether. As far as I am aware they do not mould to your shape in the traditional Brooks way, so the sensation you get when you first ride one is the sensation you will always get, as with most saddles. Some people like them a lot, others ditch them after the first ride. Just like most other saddles.

Re: Why cycling in the UK is so scary (Gaurdian)

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 June 2015 - 9:54am
Phil Fouracre wrote:I really do wish I knew the answer. I've been trying to encourage locals to cycle, and have had some interest, but, still the big question of 'safety'' raises its head. For years I've been happy to say that there is no problem if you ride properly and know what you are doing. I may be tempting providence, but, I'm always happy to tell people who are worried that I've never had an accident in 40 years. My big problem is that I am now beginning to have doubts, really for the first time about cycle safety on our local roads. We all tolerate and dismiss occasional 'dodgy' driving and have our own parameters as to what are close passes, but, things really do seem to have got worse, or is it just me getting old?

The answer is effective policing of criminal drivers who think they're above the law,currently they are due to that depleted and ineffective policing.And a judicial system intent on removing dangerous drivers from the roads,and making persistent and or serious offenders resit their driving test and serve a further probationary period afterwards.
There is simply no one doing anything about the problem of bad/negligent/criminal driving.It's quite simply becoming a free for all.
The risks,knowing or unknowingly,it's hard to tell,to gain nothing at all or a handful of seconds,beggers belief .
This incident I posted on P5 of this thread is completely and utterly insane,only someone oblivious to the consequences of their driving would such a thing :-
I was also overtaken on blind right hand bend by a woman in a new Mini against a solid white line,she was well over the other side of the road and totally blind,I know she was driving totally blind because I couldn't see around the bend and I was in secondary position on my own side.
She had a child in a child seat in the back.
What the thought process was I've no idea but it wasn't one of a caring mother,that's for sure.

Re: Help settle an argument

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 June 2015 - 9:45am
Mark1978 wrote:A cyclist hating friend of mine shared this video

https://www.facebook.com/SpottedPompey/ ... 0/?fref=nf

Using it as an example of why cyclists are stupid / shouldn't be on the road etc because he moved 'out of the lane'

My reply was that his road positioning was entirely reasonable through the island and the car driver had no right to beep at him.

What's the thoughts of the assembled panel here?

Note I'm not talking about the falling off; which was entirely the cyclists own doing, but was the car driver right to beep?

Just thought I'd remind everyone of the original post. As already pointed out earlier in the thread, you can't use one example to rule that no cyclists should be allowed on the road.

Appears we're divided on whether it was ok to beep or not.

Re: Brookes Cambium Saddle

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 17 June 2015 - 9:44am
Had one and sold it on as I didn't like the look of it and thought that the rubber compound wouldn't be suitable for hot, sweaty summer days.

They are very expensive for what they are and I much prefer the Spa cycles range of leather saddles which represent real value for money.

Re: Why cycling in the UK is so scary (Gaurdian)

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 June 2015 - 9:41am
Vantage wrote:reohn2 wrote:The driving standards,lack spacial awareness,downright stupidity and willingness to take such chances frankly astounds me in the extreme,so much so that I no longer think if,but when ....

I'm getting to that stage myself.
Cycling home at mid day from Brinscall along the A675 Bolton/Belmont Road a few months ago, I seriously doubted I'd see my kids again.

That climb out of Abbey Village can be hair raising.
I've stopped using it because of that,I've even had problems with motors when descending it a 35/40mph.
From Brinscall you can take the Goit to Anglezarke or as far as the cricket field at White Coppice,the section between WC and A/zarke is a mud bath in winter.Coming off at WC,the back lanes to Rivington are much better,though hilly.
If you want to cut out the steep climb out of A/zarke there's the B/way(shown as Heapey Fold Lane on Google maps) over the Nab which spits you out onto Back Lane leading to Nick Hilton's Lane,left and first right just before the rezzer wall gets you to Rivi .
Alternatively from Brinscall take the linear park(almost opposite the cafe in Brinscall,it's the old railway line)to Abbey Village at the top of the village turn left through Roddlesworth wood/reservoirs to get you to the cafe near The Royal Arms pub on Tockholes Rd take the road to the top of the climb on the A675,it's wider and descending from there,Though I prefer the Witten Weavers Way to the road

Re: Help settle an argument

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 June 2015 - 9:37am
kwackers wrote:What facts?

Fact: A guy on a bike moves out a couple of feet to overtake another vehicle he was coming up on.

Fact: The car behind had plenty of time to consider what was going on, more importantly they should have taken a teeny tiny amount of time to observe and predict.

Fact: The car sounded their horn whilst behind the cyclist and at a point when it was useless. i.e. the cyclist was at the side of the vehicle he was overtaking.

Fact: The motorist has supposedly sat a test and as such has a standard of driving that's legally required in order to satisfy their license conditions.

Fact: The cyclist has no such requirement - for all the driver knows it's a 12 year old with no road sense.

Did I miss anything?

For someone claiming to be observant, yes you did actually.

Fact: The cyclist failed to check for faster moving traffic behind prior to his overtake.

Fact: The cyclist then failed to indicate his intentions to other traffic.

Fact: The cyclist then took his attention off the road in front for an extended period to insult the driver behind whom he cut up due to said overtake.

At 0.38 sec in the video, the truck gets through the pinch point without infringing on the admittedly narrow cycle lane. That skinny little MX5? could have overtaken any cyclist there without risk. The cyclists stupidity alone caused all that commotion.

This is no different than travelling on a motorway at 70mph, changing lane to overtake a 60mph car in front and being hit from behind by an 80mph car which you didn't check for and failed to indicate to.

Re: Help settle an argument

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 June 2015 - 9:18am
[XAP]Bob wrote:Yes, the driver is always right. All hail ballibeg...

The driver was involved in the crash.
I didn't say he necessarily caused it (that would be the extended turn and V sign without competence)

No he/she didn't.
Maybe he/she should not have beeped, but they were certainly not involved in the crash.
The cyclist didn't look around and give the finger until after the horn and then continued to ride with his eyes off the road for around 3.5 seconds. Too long.
The cyclist baked and ate his own cake.

Re: A new tourer (for a song)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 17 June 2015 - 9:17am
I believe I am on that list… .

But, after my initial experiences with my unstable Giant SCR3 which gyrated wildly when loaded up I moved to the Subway. It carried everything, rock solid, off road, rock solid. Finally I got the rather expensive Salsa Vaya and immediately found gyration problems again, and the vibe was that it was good off road. I have had to lighten my kit, lighten myself and redistribute the load to overcome the gyration problem. It isnt really a real off road bike either. Its OK for things like canal banks, made up bridleways and forestry fire roads but useless for the natural forest bridleways and tracks that we have around here. The Vaya was a birthday present so I have got to stick with it but I am always on the lookout for a decent barely used Subway.

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