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Re: Roundabout Close Call

CTC Forum - On the road - 3 June 2014 - 8:38am
Mick F wrote:kwackers wrote:If you go straight on you haven't turned at all...At a crossroads, yes.

At a roundabout, the clue is in the name.
Not at all. I can on a bicycle go straight over lots of roundabouts without deviating from a straight line so I haven't turned.

In any description of movement doing a 180 will take you back in the direction you were going. Why are roundabouts a special case?

Re: Roundabout Close Call

CTC Forum - On the road - 3 June 2014 - 8:35am
kwackers wrote:If you go straight on you haven't turned at all...At a crossroads, yes.

At a roundabout, the clue is in the name.

Re: Roundabout Close Call

CTC Forum - On the road - 3 June 2014 - 8:25am
If you go straight on you haven't turned at all...

So -90 for left, 0 for straight on, +90 for right, 180 for a U.

Re: Roundabout Close Call

CTC Forum - On the road - 3 June 2014 - 8:11am
I always think of the angle of the roundabout that one is doing, have done, etc. In other words, assuming that the roads are at right angles, to turn left one does 90 degrees of the roundabout, straight on is 180 degreees of it it and so on. For better or for worse I do not think of a U turn as doing 180 degrees, but I can understand that some do. As stated previously, there are some roundabout where a full turn is required by design, and many where such an action is unusual enough that caution is required

Re: Dover to London for family

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 2 June 2014 - 11:50pm
Thx Freeflow for the link. It looks superb And your advice has some merit to it. Going along the coast is probably not a bad idea. Hopefully the weather will call for some bathing en route.

And about London: It's a reason in its own right, isn't it? We are spending 4 nights there, doing all the tourist "musts": musical, London eye, Madame Tussaud's, London Bridge, Camden lock. We are on a 3 "years" journey from Oslo to Paris, via Amsterdam and London. This year's leg is Amsterdam-London. The kids enjoy the bicycling, but having an iconic goal as London certainly helps on the motivation

Re: Beware Gatwick / Norwegian airline & unpacked bikes

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 2 June 2014 - 11:28pm
I am very close to cash in on your virtual pint, Hufty I got these e-mails from sean at norwegian's contact center:

"Since on our homepage the passenger can only order bike without hardcase, then there shall be no problem for the passenger to arrive at London Gatwick airport with his bike/s whitout hardcase packaging. The passenger is allowed to transport the bike/s with or without hardcase packaging. This is up to the him. Norwegian takes no responsability if the bike/bikes are damaged under transport if they are not packaged in a hardcase.
Mvh/Kind regards.
Sean
Contact Centre"

I then asked him to confirm: "The question is not about arriving at LGW but departing from LGW. Can you confirm that it is possible to check in bicycles at LGW in a soft bicycle bag?"

And got this answer:
"There shall be no problem for you to check inn you're bikes without hardcase in att London Gatwick Airport."

It might be too early to fully enjoy your pint, but I am anyway going to try, showing up at check in with the bikes in CTC plastic bags.

Re: Somerset Tour

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 2 June 2014 - 11:16pm
How long have you got? How many miles a day?
Stourhead is lovely and the road north from here through Kilmington Common is lovely, bear right and drop down over Gare Hill, through Trudoxhill and into Nunny which it's small but very interesting moated castle, through Leigh on Mendip then Oakhill, past the Mendip Golf Club for a beautiful descent to Wells with distant views of the levels and Glastonbury. Wells has the cathedral aside the City of London is the smallest city in England. There is a Sustrans route along an old railway which then takes you across the levels to Glastonbury.

Prior to this is a very pretty wooded ride to Stourhead from Wincanton, you head east parallel to the A303 and there is a zig zagged road heading NW then East through woodland that leads to Stourhead.

Does this help?
Neil

PS I run the CTC Hospitality Directory, staying with a cyclist is great fun, we hosted a Portugese cyclist last week. The other directory is Warm Showers.

Lyon to the Alps - September 2014

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 2 June 2014 - 11:11pm
Hello, I am planning a cycle camping two week trip from Lyon, with initial goals to ride around Mont Blanc. This will in the middle two weeks of September. Apart from the climbs I hope to take it easy, but I know my bike will be loaded. Any recommendations and places to avoid etc. would be appreciated. Cycling companions too for that matter would also be welcome.

Re: GPS Course this W/E

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 2 June 2014 - 10:53pm
OK it's 500 metres from Gloucestershire, the joys of a forum.
Glad my typo brought a smile to a few faces

Anyway the place has filled, so thanks for looking
Neil

Re: Cycle touring (camping) with a BBQ - anyone got experien

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 2 June 2014 - 10:47pm
I use the Grilliput Portable Camping Grill with optional charcoal basket called a firebowl and it's ace. The BBQ on its own is phenomenally portable.

Re: Cycling in Vienna

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 2 June 2014 - 10:36pm
I have cycled along the northern bank of the Danube through Vienna and it was an interesting experience. From what I can remember, the path was decent and straightforward. Very busy with pedestrians. We seemed to go through a variety of cultures as we cycled along. One section was full of romany people and one large group were busy spit roasting a large pig. Further along we passed through a nudist section full of middle aged people with portly figures.

Re: Touring in Northern Norway

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 2 June 2014 - 10:30pm
I bought a few gas cartridges from petrol station shops when touring between Trondheim and Tromso a couple of years back. I took a multi fuel stove and switched to petrol as it was cheaper to run.

Re: Scotland adventure! Inverness to Dumfries

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 2 June 2014 - 10:28pm
Then the canal towpath to Loch Oich, a short section of the A82 the B roads and forestry tracks (Great Glen Cycleway) west of Loch Lochy.

I did this last year, and while it is an absolutely stunning cycle it wasn't easy on my hybrid. I don't know if somebody on a road bike could enjoy it. I got a few punctures. Your average speed will have to come down dramatically. The canal towpath is a little easier, but still very bumpy.

OP, you should definitely swing by Aviemore and cycle up to the Glenmore Forest park. Maybe camp by the lake there. If you're up for it, you can even climb Mount Cairngorm. It's basically climbing stairs for 1000+ meters but the views are great.

Re: Roundabout Close Call

CTC Forum - On the road - 2 June 2014 - 9:57pm
This http://goo.gl/maps/VtY2h junction, with a "no right turn" sign, requires all vehicles to proceed to the r/a just beyond, continue all the way round the r/a, and then turn left.
However doing a "U" turn at a r/a is an unusual and therefore unexpected manoeuvre wherever it is, and as a result requires caution by those doing it.

But if you are using a mobile phone it appears you just continue driving round and round until you receive the message of which exit you need! Or so it seems.

Re: Vote UKIP...

CTC Forum - On the road - 2 June 2014 - 9:22pm
meic wrote:So do I! but for some reason we called it Plaid Cymru instead of Plaid Sosialiadd Genedlaethol.

Rather amusingly I think that it was only the Welsh and Scottish Nationalist Parties who were welcoming immigrants from the EU and asking for easier immigration.

There is a generally held belief that anything at all that has a connection with Herr Hitler must be inherently evil, be it a name, a moustache or anything.

When it involves Messrs Galloway and Farage it more than likely is.

Charles de Gaulle came out with a good definition of nationalism and patriotism.

"Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first."

Re: Vote UKIP...

CTC Forum - On the road - 2 June 2014 - 8:41pm
So do I! but for some reason we called it Plaid Cymru instead of Plaid Sosialiadd Genedlaethol.

Rather amusingly I think that it was only the Welsh and Scottish Nationalist Parties who were welcoming immigrants from the EU and asking for easier immigration.

There is a generally held belief that anything at all that has a connection with Herr Hitler must be inherently evil, be it a name, a moustache or anything.

Re: Vote UKIP...

CTC Forum - On the road - 2 June 2014 - 8:28pm
tyreon wrote:Mjr: Greetings.

"Typical,thick Brit". Language,language. Now what if I had used the P-word?

Facts: I do get 'em wrong. Keep listening to our elected guv'ners. Have I got it right?...we won the war in Iraq and in Afghanistan?

Truble is,you never know who to believe in these days,do you? Well,I don't. I know when I was a young 'un,I used to question me political elders by protestation on the streets of the UK...to have my head put through windows by my own 'class mates'.

Think I'm a cross elector these days: a bit of G Galloway,Chris Packham and Nigel Farrage. An odd-ball. xxx

George Galloway and Nigel Farage eh? You seem to hold socialist nationalist views

Re: Cycle touring (camping) with a BBQ - anyone got experien

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 2 June 2014 - 7:40pm
Hi everyone, thanks for all your responses. They've been really helpful and definitely got me thinking....

I love that Honey Stove, great design.

simonineaston, rualexander, vorpal, whoof and iandriver yes agree to all of that and today I saw a cake tin in a charity shop for £3 so am going to give a home-made version a go first.

cake tin bbq.JPG
With some bolts screwed through the sidewall to keep the bottom raised an inch off the floor, some airholes below that level and in the bottom itself and a bit of the grill from a disposable bbq cut to size on the top I reckon it should be just the job! Alright it won't fold flat but at less than 200 grams I think it's a justifiable inclusion in the pannier even if I only use it once.... I'm already looking at it and thinking what could go top, un petit poisson, saucisson....mmmm!

Re: Roundabout Close Call

CTC Forum - On the road - 2 June 2014 - 7:18pm
The only two accidents I've had were on roundabouts.

One occurred when a taxi driver overtook me as I was turning right and he was going straight on.
The other was when a driver pulled out without looking. Turned out to be an insurance salesman too!

When I was complaining about the last one a relative 'defended' it by suggesting that cars have a blind spot behind the screen pillar. Sure they do, and if this is in the direction of oncoming traffic then a driver should move their head!
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