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Re: Cycling to Axbridge from Bristol

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 11:54am
mjr wrote:The first part of the route's not too bad (basically NCN33 to Backwell), but the B3133 is a pretty nasty rat-run to the airport, isn't it? Unless feeling reasonably quick and brave, I'd turn right into Stowey Park before the B3133, then third left into Well Lane, nearly straight over into Church Road, and left at the end onto Chescombe Road, turning left onto NCN 26 at its end.

I'll give that a go next time I'm out that way, what's the surface like after Chescombe Rd/Biddle St?

Not sure that the B3133 is used to get to the airport. From the M5 either A38 or A370 then Brockley Combe Rd are the usual routes.

Re: Default tourer?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 10:59am
Sweep wrote:PH wrote:reohn2 wrote:So far we've one person complaining it's a 'slug' but until we know what he's it's comparing it to we don't know how valid that complaint is,everyone else seems to be happy with theirs,which seems to back up the fact that it's a very good tourer.

The answer is in his blog, very nice bikes they are too.
I fond the LHT to be, well not a slug, but certainly very steady (Yes...subjective) for the riding I was using it for I liked that. The Hewitt by comparison (Even more subjective) feels quite sprightly. The hard facts from the computer showed I was just as slow on either
Would you reckon that the Hewitt would be the equal of the LHT for expedition touring?

Depends on your expedition. If you were planning on spending months in the most desolate of areas with unmade roads and having to carry several days supply of food and water, plus the kit to cover all eventualities, the Hewitt might be up to it but IMO the 26” version of the LHT would be a better bet. I think that’s part of the dream that the LHT sells, for the vast majority of cycle tourers the reality is different, a couple of week at a time, not that far off the beaten track, for which the Hewitt is more than enough.
The other sad part of the reality is that for every touring mile I do, there's a hundred miles riding to work and the shop and out with the CTC and... For most people the touring mileage will be a small part of the bikes use, they'd be better off choosing a bike based on that fact.

Re: Lewes Road Brighton- new facility any good?

CTC Forum - On the road - 22 December 2014 - 10:43am
niggle wrote:Pete Owens wrote:And that plan looks positively lethal. Cyclists are taken off the road to go behind a bus stop then re-emerge onto the carriageway brom behind a stopped bus just at the approach to a junction.

I see what your saying, but the issue will only be with other traffic wanting to enter the left turn lane for Hollingdean Road, the cycle lane is continuous and compulsory before and immediately after the bus stop and protected by being raised by 50mm then 25mm ...

And in case you missed the other thread, here is news of a number of cyclists enjoying that "protection"
http://m.theargus.co.uk/news/11680082._Death_trap__cycle_lane_claims_fourth_victim/?ref=mr

Re: Default tourer?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 10:23am
Perhaps this thread should be retitled Default Expedition Tourer? I've never seen an LHT in the flesh. ride with your local Ctc section and you'll find that Galaxies, Panoramas, Thorns and Hewitts still dominate.

Re: Default tourer?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 10:11am
reohn2 wrote:VO Disc,the rear seatstay yolk and front fork crown look a bit PlanetX ie; industrial to my eye

Agreed. I really like the seatstay yolk on my P7, which is sort of similar, but this is just not right to my eyes. The forks are also like the old P7 (F8?) segmented forks, yet straight and with the Salsa Anything mounts added. All bit of a hodge-podge bodge (hotch-potch botch?) to me. Not your usual VO at all, but I think their 'Crazy Bar' (take on H-bars, I suspect) pointed at a slight diversification happening.

I just had a look at the Vivente site, and in that they don't show the bikes until you click on bike images, hints at them selling the 'idea' (along with the flags and fonts at the top) more than the bike, and perhaps low confidence in the bikes' visual look. Likewise, that there's really only 1 pic of each, and those slathered in accessories so you can't really see the bike supports this. Perhaps it's an operation started on a low-mid budget by an enthusiast/traveller though, which the 'mechanic's corner' hints at to me, so I should not judge too harshly. Good on'em.

Re: Another death

CTC Forum - On the road - 22 December 2014 - 9:42am
reohn2 wrote:brynpoeth wrote: .. riding without sleep ... What about P-B-P, it takes place in 2015. Should it be banned or restricted? Open question!
It's something that troubles me about long distance Audax events.
But then again any driver of a vehicle not needing a tachograph to measure time driving,could be behind the wheel of such a vehicle at considerably higher speeds for as long as they saw fit,which is a worrying thought.
The difference of course is that a sleep deprived cyclist would more than likely only put their own life at risk.
Whereas someone driving a motor with the same level of sleep deprivation has the potential for far more devastation.

e.g. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/s ... y-cyclists
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... sleep.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... years.html

Re: Default tourer?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 9:41am
VO Disc,the rear seatstay yolk and front fork crown look a bit PlanetX ie; industrial to my eye

Re: Default tourer?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 9:36am
RonK
According to Vivente's site their WT isn't better specced than the LHT,I'd say their about the same,but it does come 'fully loaded'(quality dynamo lighting,Tubus racks and m/guards) and seems like a nice bike.
Their site tells me I can have one shipped to me in the UK for £1820(no shipping cost).
That's not a bargain,I could buy a DT @ £1100 from here:- http://www.ukbikestore.co.uk/product/34 ... -bike.html and 'load' it myself to the same spec or better ie; dynamo,racks and m/guards etc,for an extra £400.

Re: Default tourer?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 8:58am
PH wrote:Without too much research these would be on the shortlist, I'm not looking for another bike...
Hewitt Cheviot (My current steel tourer and I have no intention of changing it)
VO Campeur
SOMA Saga
Ridgeback Panorama
Spa Tourer
Some of the Jamis bikes sold by Evans
Genesis Tour de Fer
And lastly, the Surly Crosscheck, I know a couple of people who tour on them and rate them.

Have you seen the pics of the new Disc VO?


http://velo-orange.blogspot.co.uk/2014/ ... llany.html

Those dropouts suggest same factory as the Saga Disc to me.

http://www.somafab.com/archives/product ... -frame-set

If wanting to consider CX type frames in this list (as per Cross Check, being kinda pseudo CX themed), then the Soma Double/Triple Cross would be nice.

With regards to the Cross Check though, and in extension other CX themed bikes, I'd hazard a suggestion that they're less widespread due to them being a bit more focussed- the geo being less expedition oriented. Apart from anything else, the chainstays are shorter- as I've previously mentioned somewhere around here, am struggling with mudguards for the Straggler, which is essentially a disc Cross Check, which doesn't bode well for a prolonged tour, surely? OK, that is hobbit size frame, and larger sizes don't suffer so, but still, with bigger frames come bigger feet, and things could get interferingish down there perhaps.

Re: Default tourer?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 8:45am
RonK wrote:Ah, so some of you have discovered I have a Sabbath Silk Route.

Your response presupposes I had a preference for Ti. In fact I had never ridden a Ti bike and I knew nothing about Ti other than what I could read on the internet. And since there are precious few other tourer offerings locally other than the Vivente World Randonneur, the best option was to buy a frame and build my own. I took a risk on the Sabbath frame which was at the time new on the market but affordable. The punt payed off in spades, and I'll be departing with it for a third tour in March.

To conclude I have a preference for Ti is not correct. I have a preference for bikes that satisfy my requirements.
So what makes the Sabbath a good bike?
And what makes the LHT a slug?

So far as the LHT is concerned, it's a frame made in Asia from 4130 tubing and assembled with reasonable but inexpensive components. How can it possibly be better that any other similar constructed bike. The answer is quite simply that it can't be and it isn't
I agree about the frameset there are a few similar as I posted up thread.But comparing it to the Sabbath what are the differences in the two framesets?

The local product I mentioned earlier (the VWR) is a similarly constructed bike, made in Asia from the same 4130 tubing, same geometry and design even down to the spare spoke holders, and at a guess made in the same factory, but it has a superior component and feature list which includes a disc brakes, dynamo hub and lighting, mudguards and Tubus rack. At around the same price it beats the LHT hands down for value, and is selling strongly here. I recommended one for my brother, he's very happy with it.
That sounds like a bargain,I'll look them up.

Re: Default tourer?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 7:03am
PH wrote:reohn2 wrote:So far we've one person complaining it's a 'slug' but until we know what he's it's comparing it to we don't know how valid that complaint is,everyone else seems to be happy with theirs,which seems to back up the fact that it's a very good tourer.

The answer is in his blog, very nice bikes they are too.
I fond the LHT to be, well not a slug, but certainly very steady (Yes...subjective) for the riding I was using it for I liked that. The Hewitt by comparison (Even more subjective) feels quite sprightly. The hard facts from the computer showed I was just as slow on either
Would you reckon that the Hewitt would be the equal of the LHT for expedition touring?

Re: Good road US road sign

CTC Forum - On the road - 22 December 2014 - 6:24am
GrumpyGit wrote:Elizabethsdad wrote:Audax67 wrote:The bike needs a glove box to keep the .38 in.
I would suggest openly carried in a hip holster would be more effective and dude a .38? seriously? Berretta 92F surely.

I disagree, the .38 and 9mm are almost identical in their ballistics. My choice would be a 1911A1 the .45ACP has much better stopping power!

EDITED TO ADD:

What? Is nobody going to up the ante and suggest a Desert Eagle .50 AE ??
Mk5 thunderflash through an open window or stick it in the tailpipe (ala Eddie Murphey beverley Hills cops Stylie). They are cheap as anything to buy, far easier to conceal than a handgun and much easier to let off whilst still cycling..non lethal too, not great on eardrums mind

Default tourer?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 2:16am
reohn2 wrote:PH wrote:http://wheelswhisper.blogspot.co.uk/2010/10/sabbath-silk-route-project.html

As I posted before he prefers Ti.
What's new?
Ah, so some of you have discovered I have a Sabbath Silk Route.

Your response presupposes I had a preference for Ti. In fact I had never ridden a Ti bike and I knew nothing about Ti other than what I could read on the internet. And since there are precious few other tourer offerings locally other than the Vivente World Randonneur, the best option was to buy a frame and build my own. I took a risk on the Sabbath frame which was at the time new on the market but affordable. The punt payed off in spades, and I'll be departing with it for a third tour in March.

To conclude I have a preference for Ti is not correct. I have a preference for bikes that satisfy my requirements. As such, my second venture into Ti bikes was not a success. I don't like the Van Nicholas Pioneer much at all. The Rohloff is noisy, overrated and overpriced. You can read my thoughts about that on my blog too. It's been a failed experiment into flat bars and internally geared hubs. It also will likely be replaced.

So far as the LHT is concerned, it's a frame made in Asia from 4130 tubing and assembled with reasonable but inexpensive components. How can it possibly be better that any other similar constructed bike. The answer is quite simply that it can't be and it isn't

The local product I mentioned earlier (the VWR) is a similarly constructed bike, made in Asia from the same 4130 tubing, same geometry and design even down to the spare spoke holders, and at a guess made in the same factory, but it has a superior component and feature list which includes a disc brakes, dynamo hub and lighting, mudguards and Tubus rack. At around the same price it beats the LHT hands down for value, and is selling strongly here. I recommended one for my brother, he's very happy with it.

Re: Accident waiting to happen.

CTC Forum - On the road - 22 December 2014 - 12:36am
Vorpal wrote:I'm not sure I understand why this is an accident waiting to happen? It is common in other countries to have parallel crossings for cyclists and pedestrians. It's not as beneficial an arrangement in the UK because there is no legal obligation to give way to cyclists in an uncontrolled crossing, but I doubt that drivers will deliberately run someone over just to be right. Anyway, for the time being, most drivers are not familiar with the legal details of cyclists using crossings, and will probably err on the side of caution.

In Denmark it is illegal for cyclists to use pedestrian crossings (there are usually separate/delineated parallel crossings, if a route is shared), but drivers stop for them, anyway.

The width of the crossing is the same as the width of the footpath plus the segregated cycle route. It implies to me that cyclists on the cycle route have priority over road traffic. There are no signs for cyclists to say otherwise.

Whenever I use a zebra with my bike, I will get off and walk. Most of the time I see other cyclists using zebras, they either walk, or cycle at no more than about five mph. Once cyclists start thinking they have priority, some will start moving a lot faster, and motorists generally won't be on the lookout for fast moving cyclists, looking only for people at walking speed.

Road traffic heading west, and turning left into Queen Charlotte Street will have cycle path traffic on their nearside, where it is harder to see. Cyclists heading west should cede priority to traffic possibly behind them, on to their right.

When the design of junctions confuses priorities, makes people think they have priority when they don't, bad things will happen.

Re: Touring wheels

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 12:34am
molzor wrote:no never broken a spoke, but i dont really fancy it happening! i was using 28mm tyres before but apparently theres room for 32s with no mud guards. i guess this would be fine in the warmer months. do you think this would be a worthwhile swap?

its not just broken spokes - also cracking rims. i only noticed the cracks in my rear mavic x138 by accident - no broken spokes, some sun caught on the rim as i was sat on some grass. so need a good solid rim at the rear atleast

Re: Accident waiting to happen.

CTC Forum - On the road - 22 December 2014 - 12:13am
gaz wrote:The plans for the scheme are intriguing.

Road traffic heading south on Queen Charlotte Street meets a "Give Way" marking before the cycle section of the Zebra Crossing .

There is no such marking for road traffic heading northbound .

In any case the finished item on the ground might not match the plans.


There is no give way marking for road traffic heading south, and I don't recall any give way signs.

Re: Another death

CTC Forum - On the road - 22 December 2014 - 12:02am
fretsaw wrote:very tragic;but surely such a epic ride would present problems with overcoming fatigue,and the resulting loss of concentration
Maybe. If it is possible to use that argument I'm sure it will be used. It could be a simple case of a drunk running down a cyclist and even the most alert of us can never be immune to that. Until we have any evidence of contributory negligence I think it would be appropriate not to speculate upon the subject.

Re: Ten Miles a Day

CTC Forum - On the road - 21 December 2014 - 11:53pm
I'm averaging 17.25 miles for the 355 days so far this year.

Re: Another death

CTC Forum - On the road - 21 December 2014 - 11:35pm
very tragic;but surely such a epic ride would present problems with overcoming fatigue,and the resulting loss of concentration
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