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Re: Ramming cyclist at only 10mph is OK

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 April 2015 - 2:40pm
kwackers wrote:What's the alternative? Report it to the police? Because that's been proven to work (you can't expect justice even if the end result leaves you dead)...
£300 sounds like a decent alternative to a 'fine' to me.

If there's been a traffic offence - yes it should be reported to the Police. Police resources are such that only the serious problems are likely to get looked at though and getting enough evidence is difficult. Head cams are symptomatic of a way of doing this.

Lack of enforcement is a problem. People taking the law into their own hands is not the solution to that problem - it'll make things worse - in my view.

Re: Sardina

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 1 April 2015 - 2:34pm
Hi,
we did last year Corsica and north Sardinia in September.
Weather was quite good, well actually even too hot, towards 30 degrees.
You can have a look at some photos here:

https://www.flickr.com/search/?tag_mode=all&sort=relevance&user_id=14297862%40N07&tags=sardegna&view_all=1

We did Santa teresa di gallura, Castelsardo, Porto Torres, Stintino, Alghero.
Castelsardo was very nice.
Stintino probabl one of the nicest beaches I have ever seen in my life.
On the Coast there were campings everywhere, as it is quite touristic. In September there was always place.

manuel

Re: Ramming cyclist at only 10mph is OK

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 April 2015 - 2:32pm
danhopgood wrote:Verge? £300 worth of damage says at least one cyclist did take the law into their own hands!
What's the alternative? Report it to the police? Because that's been proven to work (you can't expect justice even if the end result leaves you dead)...
£300 sounds like a decent alternative to a 'fine' to me.

Re: Has technology changed touring?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 1 April 2015 - 2:29pm
horizon wrote:The really amazing thing is that new technology has completely and utterly let us down. The greatest benefit that technology could have conferred on cycle touring is the huge diminution in working hours that would have allowed everyone if they so wished to go touring - the Great Leisure Time revolution. It was promised but never happened. Compare that to the universal adoption of the two week holiday early in the last century - that was a technological revolution as much as a social one.

So how much time has technology freed up for touring? Not a lot as far I can see. Cycle touring, obviously, is a time consumptive activity - technology cannot shorten it. Personally I would give up every piece of new technology for the freedom to have few weeks' extra time to tour.

Flying has changed people's horizons and yes, you can fit a trip to Australia into your annual holiday now. Using Google to plan a trip saves a little time. But two weeks is still two weeks and then it's back to the grindstone.

Cycle touring by its nature tends to eshew technology beyond the bike itself - that's the idea. And all those gadgets don't really detract from that (even though I don't use them). But they cannot really enhance it either: cycle touring needs time, serendipity, an open mind, some physical resilience, a sense of wonder and a feeling of joy. Technology could have released us to be able to experience more of that (even with paper maps) but instead it chained us to our work and held out as compensation some new toys to use on a short break. Give me an extra week over GPS any day.

I totally agree. We were told that computers would revolutionise work and we would all have much more leisure time and be freed from the every day grind. Computers now demand more of our time and people are working longer hours as they cannot be out of reach. I like computers and use them in my every day work - I'm using one now to send this! However, when I'm "off duty" I'm OFF DUTY! When on holiday I do not want to receive emails and telephone calls from anyone. My mobile 'phone (not a Smart one) is for my convenience and no-one elses. If you want to 'get away from it all' then do just that, don't take it all with you otherwise you may as well stay at home.

Re: Budget Tourer Advice

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 1 April 2015 - 2:14pm
Also have a look at Ash Cycles for bargains (though from a recent post it seems they can be a bit annoying on delivery) http://www.ashcycles.com/site/bikes/tourer

Basically any bike you can get is going to be pretty decent for what you want. Some may be slightly more expensive from others, but if you can get discounted versions that helps. I'd personally be leaning towards a steel frame, but that's probably more previous experience with cheapo aluminium frames than anything else.

Re: Should I just stick with 26" wheels?

CTC Forum - MTB - 1 April 2015 - 2:11pm
The best wheel size is usually what's on your current bike, ie I ride an old fashioned 26 hard tail, I'm sure a 29er ht would make me faster given my lack of skill, but wouldn't make nearly as much difference as actually going out and riding more.

If I had to replace / had space and money for an n+1 I'd certainly be looking at clearance / second hand 26 inch full suss bikes where people have upgraded to 650b. The better bang for your buck would override any thought about wheel size issues. I've got half an eye out for a new pair of knobblies and the selection of 26 inch tyres is still way in front atm, so should be safe for many years yet.

As a tall rider, I do wonder if there isn't some advantage to the manufacturers who are now sizing wheels to the size of the frame rather than just fitting all sizes around one standard.

Re: Ramming cyclist at only 10mph is OK

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 April 2015 - 2:00pm
Vantage wrote:And folk wonder why some cyclists are on the verge of taking the law into their own hands. Disgusting.

Verge? £300 worth of damage says at least one cyclist did take the law into their own hands!

Re: Budget Tourer Advice

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 1 April 2015 - 1:55pm
dakari-mane wrote:Both second hand & shop bought have advantages & disadvantages. The option should be explored, particularly in a thread entitled BUDGET tourer advice.
But we are advising an individual not discussing how we might go about getting the biggest bang for our buck. The OP specifically mentions their inexperience. In that context I think it is incumbent upon us to mention the potential pitfalls if suggesting buying 2nd hand.

Let's be clear that none of the bikes mentioned by the OP is close to BSO territory. Yes, new bike builds can be bad. However, the buyer is protected by all kinds of consumer legislation, primarily the Sale of Goods Act 1979 and the Supply of Goods and Services Act 1982. If something is wrong, the retailer is obliged to have it fixed. In addition all bike manufacturers warranty their new bikes, many retailers offer a free follow up service and some retailers have returns policies which allow the bike to be returned for a refund or exchange if the customer is unhappy with the bike for any reason.

In contrast, a private buyer (even buying through eBay) has no protection unless the bike was stolen (another pitfall) or the seller lied when describing the item. The latin phrase caveat emptor is used to describe the legal status of this type of transaction. It means "let the buyer beware". Sound advice I think.

Re: Ramming cyclist at only 10mph is OK

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 April 2015 - 1:30pm
Hitting someone with a car at 10mph (according to the judge) is a bit more than a nudge. Cars are particularly heavy pieces of equipment and if she'd misjudged her reflexes or the cars braking system, broken bones or death (extreme case I know) might have resulted. The judge acknowledged she did it deliberately in an effort to stop the cyclist.
If someone had scratched my bike and I then threw my 5.5lb lock at them to stop them, I'd be up for GHB and I doubt a judge would be so sympathetic to my reasoning. It's not far off shooting someone in the leg with a gun to stop them. Cars and guns are both deadly weapons.
£300 worth of damage to a car is easier to repair than the potential loss of life. This should have been a much more severe punishment.

Re: Budget Tourer Advice

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 1 April 2015 - 1:21pm
Really pleased with my (2014) Fuji Touring bike and, if some family health matters settle down, I'm looking forward to touring on it.

Re: Ramming cyclist at only 10mph is OK

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 April 2015 - 1:15pm
I'm not sure how I feel about this, really. It sounds like a severe loss of cool on both sides. Damaging a car door may be tempting, but it's a bit naughty. And nudging someone off their bike with your car is inexcusable. Not the same as driving into them at speed but, yes, it could cause harm. It sounds like two people having a moment they would rather forget.

Re: YHA Hindhead gone!

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 1 April 2015 - 12:50pm
I stayed at Hindhead when I was 16 and I last stayed there a couple of years ago, a span of over 40 years. It was magic the first time, still delightful the last time. I thought it was one of the YHA's iconic pin-up hostels that they would keep whatever it cost just to show that they still cared. Obviously not.

YHA Hindhead gone!

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 1 April 2015 - 12:36pm
I see now that the YHA at Hindhead has closed. That was a lovely hostel in a very beautiful area. The blight was you had to leave your car at the top a mile a way at risk of being robbed....that didnt help i think?

This is the YHAs view -
"we will be focusing our efforts on YHA Tanner's Hatch to maintain a presence in the area. It is an integral part of YHA's Capital Strategy to have a fully invested in network of Youth Hostels that meet the needs of today’s guests."

with just 2 hostels now south of London some Capital Strategy. One for school parties ( Holmbury ) and one for back-to-the woods- wallahs. I am getting to the point that being a member a waste of money

I think the current management is narrowly following markets rather than trying to make create & nurture them?

Re: Budget Tourer Advice

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 1 April 2015 - 12:23pm
& buying from a shop is all well and good IF the staff know what they are talking about when it comes to tourers and are not just trying to shift stock & IF the bike is set up correctly by the shop mechanics so it doesn't dump the rear dérailleur into the rear wheel the first time you drop off the top ring on a climb & IF.......If.....if....if....

Buying a brand-new-this-year cheapest-components-available bike from a shop could well be considered an expensive mistake at a later date too.

Both second hand & shop bought have advantages & disadvantages. The option should be explored, particularly in a thread entitled BUDGET tourer advice.

Ramming cyclist at only 10mph is OK

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 April 2015 - 12:18pm
http://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-mai ... 0/TextView (see left-hand article)
Just a fine and penalty points for using car as offensive weapon! (And no MOT!).

Re: Proper Tour of Scotland

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 1 April 2015 - 12:14pm
Wind direction is tricky. I went S-N for an early May UK SE - NW end to end. I got very cold dry weather with an anti-cyclone most of the tour. Headwinds every single day as the wind is from the north. Most often wind is from the W or SW (as shown by the usual direction of aeroplanes taking off and landing at Glw Airport. So I'd assume a SW wind and have the ideas that if I got headwinds it was bringing dry weather and sun.

As for where to start. If it has started for the summer I'd go with the Ardrossan to Campbelltown ferry and go clockwise from the Mull of Kintyre without needing to go up and down the peninsula. Start/finish in Ardrossan.

Re: Budget Tourer Advice

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 1 April 2015 - 12:06pm
IF the OP is competent in assessing condition of a used bike and IF he knows enough not to buy something obsolete (Galaxies, Dalesman's etc have been going for years) and IF it is the correct size and IF it is in a convenient location for viewing and collection then yes wonderful bargains can be had. IF NOT the apparent bargain can quickly become an expensive mistake. Obviously the prices of bikes on eBay often rise significantly above their starting and early bids, usually in the last minute or so of the auction.

Re: Touring bike choice for people with long legs

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 1 April 2015 - 11:57am
dandru wrote:I was only thinking yesterday that rather than talk about frame geometry, pictures of how far people lean forward on a bike would be far better and that's what's happening now. I use two bikes for touring, with the MTB, my posture would be similar to your picture above, whereas on my touring bike I'm leaning forward more on the hoods and can get down reasonably low on the drops, whereas I can sit up on the flats and have the same posture as my MTB for climbing etc.
Other than having wider bars on my MTB and hybrid than on my drop barred bikes, my normal hand position is roughly the same ie. the reach to the flat bar and reach to the hoods are set the same. I don't understand why they would be different for the same cyclist unless, as Mercalia says, the different bikes were being ridden much differently

Re: Budget Tourer Advice

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 1 April 2015 - 11:55am
I would once again sing the praises of quality second hand bikes.

For example, Dawes Super Galaxy retails at £1500 (or down to £850 some places) but currently under £150 with a little over a day to go:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dawes-Super-G ... 27fc1d4b68

Ridgeback Panorama, £1250 in the shops, starting at 600:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ridgeback-Pan ... 4637853de1

This years Specialized Awol Elite with £500 off:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Specialized-A ... 46377544f5

Cannondale touring Ultra, another £1000+ bike going for sub £500. All the racks & bottle cages you could want:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/26-Cannondale ... 4d2ffd5f41

Lots of good things if you poke about a bit.
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