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Re: Best bicycle SatNav

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 29 May 2015 - 11:56am
I did notice that you have a waterproof model at what start price do they appear?

How long is a piece of string? Try this for starters.

http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/mobilit ... nes-162408

I've been using a Sony Xperia Z Ultra for the last 18 months (Oct 2013) after a short experiments with a Sony Arc S I got very cheap off ebay. The current price for this phone is around £220 but you do have to want the 6.4 inch screen You do need an external battery to use beyond around 5 hours. The main battery burn (90%) is the screen. The GPS actually takes very little power. I have heard reports that the Sony Xperia Z3 compact will run for 12+ hours on the internal battery with the screen on and doing on the bike navigation.

For my phone I would get much longer battery life if I switched off the screen and used Osmand to give voice instructions.

I have successfully used my phone for several 300k Audax which required a smidgeon of a second battery pack.

I use Sony Xperia phones as they (mostly) have ANT+ enabled so you can also do HR, cadence, speed from wheel revolutions, Power etc

Re: Best bicycle SatNav

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 29 May 2015 - 11:42am
eTrex 20 is relatively cheap, can easily hold map of the whole of the UK, and routes/tracks loaded off the PC are easy to follow, even in sunlight (or so I find anyway)

Take AA batteries, so easy to keep powered, and last a whole day of riding quite happily on one set

Re: Best bicycle SatNav

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 29 May 2015 - 11:22am
I use garmin in 62s and an online route planner. http://cycle.travel/map

Then you get OS maps, route planning and good battery life.

Re: Road bike or mountain bike?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 29 May 2015 - 11:09am
Thank you everyone for the advice, there is lots to digest?

I am going to try an overnight shortish tour on the MTB (with some bar ends added) in the first instance and see how it goes!

Re: Best bicycle SatNav

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 29 May 2015 - 11:01am
My preference for onvthe bike navigation is a waterproof android mobile. Others will be along shortly to condem me as a heretic and explain that an etrex is the only path to righteousness

I agree with you, the only true path is an Etrex.

Smart phones gobble up battery life at an unbelievable rate. If you can feed their thirst and give them a good waterproof and safe environment, then they are probably more user friendly than the Etrex. They are also available around £40 and with free mapping and software!

The Etrex on the other hand is expensive, waterproof, rugged and very frugal with batteries.

If you are older you may have a preference for buttons and joysticks like on the Etrex compared to Android touch screens, I certainly do!

I did notice that you have a waterproof model at what start price do they appear?

Re: Touring in Norway

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 29 May 2015 - 10:53am
I'm about to head over to Trondheim and was looking for an route suggestions that anyone may have I've got about 3 weeks free until I need to be back there, and was looking to go south of trondheim as I'm planning on heading north a afterwards, I don't mind getting a train back to Trondheim if needed.

I was initially thinking of roughly following the eurovelo 1 from Trondheim to Bergen and then linking it to EV12 to Oslo and then possibly getting the train north again depending on distance/ time. Although I'm open to any suggestions, route wise I quite like long alpine climbs and good scenery but have a strong dislike for spending endless hours cycling through forests so any routes would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Andy

Re: Road bike or mountain bike?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 29 May 2015 - 10:40am
It's a good question.

Think the arguments pro / con re flat / drop bars have been set out. I prefer the range of options that drop bars offer, but matter of personal preference and which feels most comfortable for a long day. I used 25 mm front and 28 mm rear on recent long ride (in the ETE section, thread 'double ender'), couldn't get a 28 mm in the front, and this worked fine, albeit with rather less luggage. I went on Sustrans route from York to Doncaster, some rough surfaces, alongside canals and across fields, etc, and later went along the Cromford Canal, the cycle path alongside the A9, etc, some equally rough surfaces, and these tyres worked fine, but most of my ride was on roads - some of which have appalling road surfaces!

A road bike generally will be quicker and lighter which, on a long ride or at the end of a long day, you may appreciate, especially if you're having to pick the bike up to get up and down stairs, over obstacles, etc.

The suggestion to try both options first is a sensible one.

Have a good trip!

Re: Best bicycle SatNav

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 29 May 2015 - 10:39am
My (fairly limited) experience with a Garmin 510 touring is always carry a paper map for when it fails in some way.

Re: Problems I never knew needed solving

CTC Forum - On the road - 29 May 2015 - 10:35am
May just not be used to the road bike practice of choosing one's line on the road to avoid irregularities that you'd just plough a hybrid or MTB straight over.

Re: Road bike or mountain bike?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 29 May 2015 - 9:57am
quilkin wrote:One of the online cycle route planners (I forget which, sorry) has links to photos of some parts of these trails so you may be able to have a look before you go.

It's Cycle.travel. Left-click on the map to add a point, left-click again on that point and an option 'find photos' should come up.

Re: Plans for a summer tour

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 29 May 2015 - 9:02am
How about dipping down through the New Forest, hopping on a ferry and seeing the Isle of Wight. Not sure what it is, but doing a ferry crossing makes it feel like a proper adventure [emoji573]

Re: Problems I never knew needed solving

CTC Forum - On the road - 29 May 2015 - 8:46am
thelawnet wrote:And suddenly I have some insight into some of the cycling problems I had previously dismissed as non-issues - painful vibration through the handlebars on any surface other than perfectly smooth tarmac- looks like I need to buy some padded gloves; sore backside from the frame/saddle transmitting all the same road issues - need to get some padded shorts; lack of stability on slippery surfaces/cornering/going down hill - best buy myself a helmet; lack of appropriate shoes for the pedals.

The review for the bike insists that it is 'relaxed', 'comfortable' and that the 'frame and the fork do a good job of filtering out vibration and chatter from uneven roads.' I assume that all of these qualities are relative.

Apparently it's a practical choice - practical if you count the lack of possibility for mudguards, panniers, or even carrying a lock lest you compromise its 'every gram less costs a pound more' weight properties, and then fear of it getting nicked if you leave it out in public.

But maybe I will grow to love it, once I am appropriately shod, clad, and am used to the riding position.

It's hard to know if these are things which are specific to your bike or if you're just not used to how a road bike goes? I certainly don't get painful vibrations through the bars and usually ride without gloves (except when it's cold which is all the time recently).

Is your fork carbon? What tyres do you have? What pressures?

Of course the ride isn't going to be as forgiving as something with massive tyres, but it shouldn't be uncomfortably so.

Re: Road bike or mountain bike?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 29 May 2015 - 8:28am
If the mountain bike doesn't have them, it may be worth fitting some bar ends for more hand positions. I have them on my MTB.

Re: Road bike or mountain bike?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 29 May 2015 - 8:15am
I think it depends on the distance. Mtb bars are uncomfortable for some people over long distances because you're locked into having your wrists in one position. On short trips of course it doesn't matter.

Re: Road bike or mountain bike?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 29 May 2015 - 7:16am
That's good advice Vorpal, I am biased towards MTB style tourers sometimes but it's important to decide what suits the OP best, not just me and his/her knees will I am sure be a lot better than mine

Re: Road bike or mountain bike?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 29 May 2015 - 6:52am
700 X 23 tyres on a loaded bike may not survive Sustrans trails, unless you are absolutely meticulous about keeping the air pressure up. My first tourer when I was younger was my road bike, and it was fine, but the first thing I learned was to fit fatter tyres, because I kept getting punctures.

So, I would fit the fattest tyres (25s? or maybe 28s?) that the road bike can take, then do what beardy suggested and see how you get on with each bike. To Merry_Wanderer's point, include a decent hill in both trips.

With no chance to do shake down trips, I would take the MTB over the road bike.

Enjoy your cycling, whatever you decide!

Re: Problems I never knew needed solving

CTC Forum - On the road - 29 May 2015 - 6:39am
thelawnet wrote:foxyrider wrote:So the OP's new bike is different to his other bikes but it doesn't mean they are 'problems'.

Having every road bump transmitted to my hands and backside is definitely a problem.
I expect that some wider tyres; the widest you can fit will help. I use Conti 4 seasons. Although I have Marathons on some other bikes, I find them a bit stiff in the narrower sizes. IMO the performance of the Conti 4 seasons justify the cost, but I know that not everyone agrees with me. Have a poke around on the 'tyre recommendation' threads on the forum for something a little easier riding than Marathons.

Other things you can try:
different, or double tape on the handle bars
suspension seat post
gel saddle

Other people manage to make such bikes comfortable for long distances, so it should be possible for everyone, or nearly everyone who wnats to ride one.

Re: Problems I never knew needed solving

CTC Forum - On the road - 29 May 2015 - 4:30am
The fastest average speed I ever got was on a 1960s steel touring bike with down tube shifters, I swear those bikes somehow just "go faster" over modern bikes.

I think a lot of new cyclists ride MTB's around on the road, but switching to 700c was the best thing I did. I do miss the full suspension though and wish there was some sort of FS road bike, if I dare say that. Maybe a high end (in other words carbon) FS MTB that has 29 inch wheels and has disc brakes is on a par with that.

That would be the perfect bike to me, a MTB thats full suspension, carbon, with 700c wheels and disc brakes, with 25/28 tyres with a light tread (M+ would do), with road triple chainrings and flat bars. If it had 32h or 36h wheels there isn't really anywhere you couldn't go on such a bike. You could hammer it around trails on it but it would be on a par with a road bike on the road (if you ducked right down lol). It could be made even better with a Rohloff hub on it, one day.

All I care about is reliability, durability, performance and comfort, not necessarily in that order. What I don't care about and never will is "going faster" or racing, or having lightweight stuff thats going to wear out in two years, or as some call years... "seasons".

Re: Is a cadence sensor worth it?

CTC Forum - On the road - 29 May 2015 - 12:22am
Fitted the computer yesterday. Haven't fitted the cadence sensor yet though.

The good news is that the LED bike light doesn't interfere with the wireless transmission. The bad news is that the heart rate monitor doesn't seem to update properly - it sometimes changes and other times will stay at the same rate despite me changing the amount of effort. Tested it whilst sat at my desk today at work and the readout will suddenly freeze. I suffer from something called ectopic beats and the display would freeze after one of these beats. I can't believe that this is the problem, but I'll keep monitoring (pardon the pun) it.

Re: London to Paris - Dieppe camping

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 29 May 2015 - 12:13am
Ps. This may not be relevant I'd you are doing 3 days as you'll probably want to go further but this place was a fantastic stop after the days riding off the ferry. http://www.chambres-abbaye.com
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