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Re: Cycle Touring in the Outer Hebrides - Questions

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 27 June 2014 - 6:42am
Visit the sandwich and tablet shop on Barra harbour. Salmon baps to die for and probably the World's best tablet.

Headlamp - Petzl Tikka XP (2014?)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 27 June 2014 - 1:53am
Now that my Petzl Tikka XP2 has mysteriously gone walkabout along with my old light ... I am sure we have a ghost in this 120 year old house (which is old by our standards) it looks like I am back in the market for a new light.

I am tossing up between a Black Diamond Spot at $49.95 or the new Petzl Tikka XP at $69.88 delivered to Australia. I might consider the Revolt at $66.95 but not overly keen on the USB charging. I would rather use my own properly charged batteries.



Anyway I am particularly interested in any experiences with the new Tikka XP as shown in the photo, not the earlier models which I am more familiar with.

Thanks
Andrew

Re: Hello and a question about cycle path etiquette

CTC Forum - On the road - 27 June 2014 - 12:12am
Edinburgh's paths stand accused of manufactured conflict by many articles like http://mccraw.co.uk/barnton-cycle-path- ... -conflict/ - not having ridden them myself, I'm wary of taking them as examples of good practice.

Not having ridden the paths yourself, you probably wouldn't realize that the Barnton path referred to is not actually a connected part of the main network. Compared to the the main part, this section features a relatively high speed descent from a road into a short 200m semi-rural section which sees relatively little pedestrian traffic. Compared to the main section, which is flat and features a high level of people on foot and no hills(being ex railway), this is highly atypical. So quoting Dave's blog (who I know well,) doesn't really convince me as an argument. I''me not really sure what the installation of these gated chicanes have to do with this discussion.

edit: more to the point. Yes,these paths in general are indeed a potential source of pedestrian/cyclist conflict. That is why I'm suggesting that there is a preferable way of using them.-based on my experience of both walking & riding them every day.

Re: Hello and a question about cycle path etiquette

CTC Forum - On the road - 26 June 2014 - 11:34pm
Your safety is simply not endangered by cyclists in the same way that it is by motorists.
The speeds are inherently lower, the mass vastly so.

As a cyclist I can happily slow behind someone who is walking away from me, and wait for some time until an overtaking opportunity approaches. If the pedestrian is walking towards me then I MUST either stop (and force them to stop) or overtake in the time it takes us to converge.
And as I'm approaching there is a tendency for the pedestrian to try and move out of the path of the vehicle he can see - that would be inevitably into the path of the vehicle he can't see/hear coming from behind.

The road doesn't function well for pedestrians, I think we can probably all agree on that. But one of the reasons for that is the ridiculous discrepancy in mass and energy between a pedestrian and a motor-vehicle. That issue simply doesn't exist on a shared use facility (here I am assuming away from other traffic).

If the path is narrow enough for this to be an issue at all then having half the people stay right whilst the other half stay left is a recipe for, at least, serious inconvenience to all. If everyone stays to the left (which, aside from on water, is the convention in this country) then the paths are a much easier place to navigate - overtaking can be done by the normal methods, rather than by everyone coming to a standstill.

Of course sensible width paths would be preferable - and looking at the blog post (although not yet the videos) I'd be visiting with a bunch of lads to move the stones into the fenced cage.

Re: To tent or not to tent that is the question

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 26 June 2014 - 11:01pm
hostel or camp? Camp any day. I personaly dont like sharing a dormitory with other people and their colds and bugs. Ok if you are using a car but if you are getting around on a bike you dont want to pick up some bug from some foreigner? Can spoil a holiday?

Re: Budapest bike shop recommendations please!

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 26 June 2014 - 10:53pm
I Have n't a specific recommendation but suggest you have a look on crazyguyonabike. Enjoy your trip.

Tool for auto creation of map

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 26 June 2014 - 9:35pm
Hi all,

In my opinion a very time consuming (but also dummy) job is putting maps from googlemaps to a doc file to print them. I'm developing a tool that from a gpx file and a setting map scale, it creates a PDF file with a series of maps of the route. I'm gonna share the app to the community since I believe that I could be useful for someone else. It is a very basic routine, but I would like to improve it and if any of you have any suggestions or any wished feature I would like to add them.

Re: Hello and a question about cycle path etiquette

CTC Forum - On the road - 26 June 2014 - 9:02pm
[XAP]Bob wrote:The HC does suggest that "stay right" is to allow peds on a shared use highway to see the motorised traffic approaching for their own safety. Without the huge discrepancy in mass and velocity that logic is no longer needed - so revert to the default "keep left"
To be fair it mentions oncoming traffic I cannae see any suggestion of 'motorised'. There has never been a default "keep left" for pedestrians to revert to. The convention that pedestrians should keep right not only predated motorised traffic but it predated the convention of left driving vehicles. It is likely that the Highway code rule originally just described the existing convention rather than any conscious attempt to improve safety. My pedantry aside, I'm sure you are right in saying that it has been left in the Highway code because it does improve pedestrian safety. Given the narrow widths, poor sightlines and pinch points of many uk cycle paths and the poor standards of cycling I witness on a regular basis both through a lack of competence and a lack of patience I cannot share your faith that I do not need to be able to see the non-motorised traffic approaching for my own safety.

Re: To tent or not to tent that is the question

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 26 June 2014 - 8:58pm
I took a Gelert one man tent with me when I toured for a month in France in 2011, and did not regret it for an instant. My sleeping bag weighed more than the tent! The freedom the tent gave me is difficult to put a price on - more difficult for me was the fact is was extremely difficult to get a hot meal in the evening - the restaurants told me that they were not bothering to open on an evening as trade was non-existent due to the state of the economy. Didn't spoil the tour though, and camping was great, almost the best part, up there with the quiet roads and the friendly locals.

Re: Dawes 531 frame re build

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 26 June 2014 - 8:39pm
Do you think this 12 to 15 year old frame is up to the challange
My European touring frame is 23yrs old.

Budapest bike shop recommendations please!

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 26 June 2014 - 8:12pm
Need a few minor things doing on my bike (chain replacing, gears tuning, possibly wheel truing) And was wondering if anyone has used a bike shop here they can recommend. Preferably english speaking but I can probably get the gist of what I need across if thats not possible!

Thanks in advance for any ideas!

Re: Hello and a question about cycle path etiquette

CTC Forum - On the road - 26 June 2014 - 7:49pm
7mph? I rarely limit myself to two wheel, but I can still do 2-3 happily.

The difference between doing 2mph and being stopped is huge - if HGBs drove on the right and everyone else on the left we'd have chaos.

The HC does suggest that "stay right" is to allow peds on a shared use highway to see the motorised traffic approaching for their own safety. Without the huge discrepancy in mass and velocity that logic is no longer needed - so revert to the default "keep left"

Re: Hello and a question about cycle path etiquette

CTC Forum - On the road - 26 June 2014 - 7:14pm
Ellieb wrote:I'm a bit disturbed at the number of people who find it difficult to ride at walking speed.......
I'm sorry to hear that. It's been established for years in things like LTN 2/08 Cycle Infrastructure Design page 16 which says "At low speeds, cyclists are prone to wobble and deviate from a straight line" and suggests 7mph as the cut-off. (That book goes downhill after that ) How many people walk at 7mph?
However, in practice you often don't have to. If you have any sense of anticipation at all you can slow up behind the pedestrian and wait for the gap to appear. If you are able to go at, say 6mph, you will have a closing speed of 3mph or less and therefore plenty of time. If you are going towards the Ped, the closing seed is 9mph = less time to decide what to do.
But in practice, still plenty of time if everyone's being considerate. See the video I linked earlier (post at the top of this page atm).
The answer, quite simply is that overtaking on a cyclepath is completely different to doing so in a car on the road. For a start, you are suggesting that two people in the same 'lane' should be going in opposite directions, if this happened on the road, tell me what the result would be.
(Emphasis mine.) It does happen on the road, every time someone walks along a road without a footway and follow Highway Code Rule 2. People can cope with this. It's the safest possible approach for all involved.

Edinburgh's paths stand accused of manufactured conflict by many articles like http://mccraw.co.uk/barnton-cycle-path- ... -conflict/ - not having ridden them myself, I'm wary of taking them as examples of good practice.

Re: Cycle Touring in the Outer Hebrides - Questions

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 26 June 2014 - 6:50pm
gloomyandy wrote:Almost forgot. The Skoon Art Cafe is well worth a visit if you are anywhere near (it is on the golden road Harris).
Seconded! Iwas there yesterday, and they serve the best coffee and cakes you'll find on Harris. Having not visited for 20 years, I was amazed how many coffee shops and tourist destinations have now sprung up. For anyone not on a budget, it's now easy to find regular stops for sustenance.

Re: Cycle Touring in the Outer Hebrides - Questions

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 26 June 2014 - 6:39pm
Instead of spending the first night in Oban, I would get the afternoon ferry to Barra. The long daylight hours mean you can explore the Vatersay peninsula that evening and then head up towards the airport in the morning.

Re: Hello and a question about cycle path etiquette

CTC Forum - On the road - 26 June 2014 - 6:24pm
All I can say is that I live next to a very busy cycle path which I use every day. (The North Edinburgh path) My daily experience of using this path, when you might easily have over a dozen walkers/cyclist in sight during the rush hour, is that most walkers keep left, and I find it much, much easier when they do. Everyone else using the path, appears to find it the same, there are far more problems with an oncoming person on 'my' side of the path than if we are all going in the same direction.
EDIT For the simple reason that you can slot in behind a walker, match your speed to theirs and then choose when to overtake. You simple cannot do that if you are heading towards each other.

Re: Hello and a question about cycle path etiquette

CTC Forum - On the road - 26 June 2014 - 6:19pm
Not overtakes but vehicle operators travelling in opposite directions still have to factor in each other's behaviour and even without the other vehicle a driver at the national speed limit is still approaching every static object and road hazard at a closing speed of 60. The eyes and brain which are used to make those judgements are the same ones which allegedly have so much trouble with the jump from 6 to 9. If the road comparison isn't close enough for you how about two walkers (closing speed 6mp) or joggers (10mph) on a pavement. Do we really think that the latter situation is significantly harder for humans to judge? Also, if cycling at walking pace is no problem, couldn't the 6mph cyclist just slow to 3mph, neutralising the effect of the pedestrian's speed whilst still allowing the cyclist to pass more quickly than if the pedestrian was walking in the same direction?

Cookset recommendations

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 26 June 2014 - 6:10pm
Looking for a 2 person cookset.
Any recommendations?

Re: Hello and a question about cycle path etiquette

CTC Forum - On the road - 26 June 2014 - 6:04pm
The answer, quite simply is that overtaking on a cyclepath is completely different to doing so in a car on the road. For a start, you are suggesting that two people in the same 'lane' should be going in opposite directions, if this happened on the road, tell me what the result would be. If I was driving at 30, there was someone coming towards me at 15 mph on my side of the road, with someone on the other side doing 30 , do you think that would be a good idea or an easy situation to judge?

Re: Hello and a question about cycle path etiquette

CTC Forum - On the road - 26 June 2014 - 5:59pm
Ellieb wrote:I'm a bit disturbed at the number of people who find it difficult to ride at walking speed....... However, in practice you often don't have to. If you have any sense of anticipation at all you can slow up behind the pedestrian and wait for the gap to appear. If you are able to go at, say 6mph, you will have a closing speed of 3mph or less and therefore plenty of time. If you are going towards the Ped, the closing seed is 9mph = less time to decide what to do.
I'm glad you brought up the anticipation aspect that means you don't often have to stop or slow to walking pace. Now to put that extra 3mph into perspective we license car drivers with the (in my view unreasonable) expectation that they can make judgements with closing speeds of 120mph. Average urban road situations may involve closing speeds of 60mph and the utopian ideal 20mph speed limits produce closing speeds of 40mph. Now is it unsafe for humans to make judgements at speed or is 3mph really not significant?
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