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Re: Tipper crash in Bath

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 February 2015 - 1:50pm
Vorpal wrote:.........According to this article (which does have some errors in it), the brakes were found to be faulty, and the company, Grittenham Haulage , have been fine £5000 for failure to maintain the brakes. It also says,
The bereaved families fought successfully to overturn a decision by the Crown Prosecution Service not to bring a charge of manslaughter against the company, but by the time the firm was eventually charged the evidence was insufficient to gain a conviction which was reported before the men were arrested.
http://www.safebraking.com/category/bra ... orld-news/

IMHO that article should be taken with a pinch of salt,it seems to be a spoof in very bad taste

Re: Cyclist defence fund Michael Mason

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 February 2015 - 1:45pm
Probably here: http://thecyclingsilk.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/criminal-prosecutions-arising-from-road.html

The same report was critical of CPS' decision to prosecute four drivers who drove into and killed pedestrians at night, because "The ability of the driver to see the pedestrian early enough for him or her reasonably to be expected to be able to avoid a collision was poorly assessed in the decision-making." and this "imposed an unrealistic standard of driving on the suspects in these cases."

Apparently it really is unrealistic to expect drivers to be able to stop in the distance they can see to be clear!

Re: Cyclist defence fund Michael Mason

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 February 2015 - 12:59pm
Yes, I remember that too. Did Thirdcrank refer to it fairly recently?

Re: Tipper crash in Bath

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 February 2015 - 12:52pm
The men arrested have been released on bail
http://www.itv.com/news/story/2015-02-1 ... d-on-bail/

According to this article (which does have some errors in it), the brakes were found to be faulty, and the company, Grittenham Haulage , have been fine £5000 for failure to maintain the brakes. It also says,
The bereaved families fought successfully to overturn a decision by the Crown Prosecution Service not to bring a charge of manslaughter against the company, but by the time the firm was eventually charged the evidence was insufficient to gain a conviction which was reported before the men were arrested.
http://www.safebraking.com/category/bra ... orld-news/

Re: Cyclist defence fund Michael Mason

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 February 2015 - 12:50pm
Last week (I think) I read a synopsis of a report on the state of the CPS. One senior prosecutor (If that's what they're called) had instructed "his" constabulary to pass him the file in every RTI which involved a KSI so he could decide whether a prosecution was relevant. The report criticised him for this.

I wish I could remember where I read it.

Re: New Dawes 26"

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 February 2015 - 12:43pm
stuartg wrote:Most goods nowadays are disposable and we live in a disposable culture, if it breaks or the colour not right - bin it! To be fair the quality of some of the older bikes, is amazing compared to newer models. I do feel that a lot of the UK manufacturers tried to compete with overseas manufacturers on price. This meant movement of manufacturing overseas (which I don't have a problem with) but poor quality controls, design and materials (which I do have a problem with).

The manufacturers that have done well, know their market - just look at Brooks, you can argue they are overpriced but they are good quality (despite a slip up with overseas manufacturing) and they know their market. I think Dawes are calling this one right.

To be fair the quality of frame building is much better now - the old Orbit and Dawes frames I used to buy 25 years ago were frequently poorly aligned and I've had to file many a dropout to fit the wheel properly. Since they've gone to Far Eastern/Eastern European manufacture all the frames I've received have been spot-on - sad but true - wish it were otherwise...

Re: Blizzards forecast

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 February 2015 - 12:41pm
foxyrider wrote:mine are staying on, there was still snow on the road last night up in the hills and here at least we usually get another dump between now and March! (the last lot closed some roads hereabouts for nearly two weeks - that's within the city boundaries!)

Although the city boundaries do reach 1400' at High Neb...

Re: Good places to cycle to in Cardiff

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 February 2015 - 12:39pm
I ride on the lanes of the Vale of Glamorgan, where I live, and I use a simple ping bell (one pull / release gives one clear ping) and I use it to warn walkers and horse riders with their backs to me. One ping about 50m away. Pause (wait for reaction). Another ping at about 30m if no sign of reaction. Most people turn to look at some point, and none object. All friendly and no problems. Most people appreciate that you are taking the trouble.

Re: New Dawes 26"

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 February 2015 - 12:32pm
Most goods nowadays are disposable and we live in a disposable culture, if it breaks or the colour not right - bin it! To be fair the quality of some of the older bikes, is amazing compared to newer models. I do feel that a lot of the UK manufacturers tried to compete with overseas manufacturers on price. This meant movement of manufacturing overseas (which I don't have a problem with) but poor quality controls, design and materials (which I do have a problem with).

The manufacturers that have done well, know their market - just look at Brooks, you can argue they are overpriced but they are good quality (despite a slip up with overseas manufacturing) and they know their market. I think Dawes are calling this one right.

Re: New Dawes 26"

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 February 2015 - 12:31pm
Back to the original post, I'm firmly on the side of 700c (about32mm) tyres for lanes / reasonable cycle tracks, with 26" for those (not me) who see themselves doing proper off-road routes. I'm happy with 26" on my tandem because of the extra mass, but I wouldn't want 26" on a solo bike destined for road use. When I tour it is in Western Europe (France, Italy, Switzerland, etc), not Nepal. I'm not going to change from that, so 700c is the best option for me. Happily, some manufacturers now offer otherwise identical bikes in 26" or 700c. You pay your money and you take your choice.

Re: New Dawes 26"

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 February 2015 - 12:25pm
stuartg wrote:I can understand some preferring flat bars and agree a number of years ago this was the preference for new bikes. I am not sure flat bars were the only reason for the decline in the UK cycle industry, poor quality I feel was a contributory factor.

Currently their appears to be a renaissance in drop handle bar bikes, with the main US manufacturers pushing out 'adventure' bikes with drops. The growth of cycling on TV (track and TdeF), in my view, has made people question whether they are proper cyclist if they don't have drops! I am not sure whether the riders get the benefit of the drops (but I would also say that about the ridiculous gearing on most bikes for the occasional weekend warrior), but this does appear to be on trend at the moment. Good luck to Dawes if they can get this combo right.

Personally I prefer drops; with a set of ITM Marathons on my tourer, so probably around 30 different hand position on those!

I have always had the opposite view to that, the bikes were so well made that you never had to buy another one. Raleigh were sending stuff out of Nottingham thirty years ago that is still going strong and (in my opinion) better than a lot of stuff in this thread with the triple figure price tags.

Re: New Dawes 26"

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 February 2015 - 12:14pm
I can understand some preferring flat bars and agree a number of years ago this was the preference for new bikes. I am not sure flat bars were the only reason for the decline in the UK cycle industry, poor quality I feel was a contributory factor.

Currently their appears to be a renaissance in drop handle bar bikes, with the main US manufacturers pushing out 'adventure' bikes with drops. The growth of cycling on TV (track and TdeF), in my view, has made people question whether they are proper cyclist if they don't have drops! I am not sure whether the riders get the benefit of the drops (but I would also say that about the ridiculous gearing on most bikes for the occasional weekend warrior), but this does appear to be on trend at the moment. Good luck to Dawes if they can get this combo right.

Personally I prefer drops; with a set of ITM Marathons on my tourer, so probably around 30 different hand position on those!

Re: Tipper crash in Bath

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 February 2015 - 12:10pm
Lansdown Lane is, alas, part of a popular short cut between the west side of Bath and the M5. It is regularly used by HGVs even now. The main alternative is the almost equally steep hill Lansdown Road, which ends in a four-way junction in the centre of town that has also been the scene of particularly harrowing HGV brake failure incidents in the past.

There are flatter routes, but they are longer and often more heavily trafficked, so the temptation to risk it remains strong.

There are some indications, as yet unconfirmed, that the issue might not have been loss of control over speed, so much as direction. "The driver had swerved to avoid an earlier accident." The fact that the truck ended up on its side suggests the possibility of a runaway 'speed wobble' caused by the driver over-reacting in panic, swerving left, right, left etc.

Given there is a high retaining wall on the left, I wouldn't have had much opportunity to get out of the way if I had been going up hill at the time. I shall be using my own alternative route until they ban the HGVs at least!

Re: Rotterdam > Istanbul - Which bike?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 February 2015 - 11:22am
JBB wrote:I have the Edinburgh coop bike. It's a lovely ride and the gearing is good for a full load. However one of the tyres failed within days and the wheels are 32 spoke and past versions do not have a good reputation. I had no problems getting EBC to replace the tyre but swapped the wheels for a set of 36 spoke ones I had already, relegating the 32s to the hack.

I don't know the particular wheels, but I have some 32 spoke wheels that are 20 years old (they look similar, but maybe they are Rigida or something; whatever Raleigh was using on their entry level MTBs & hybrids 20 years ago). They have seen many miles of loaded touring, child carrying duties, weekly shopping, club riding, etc. I have in all that time, replaced 5 spokes. The brake surface is getting worn, and I will replace them, or at least the rims in the relatively near future.

It somewhat depends on what will be carried, but, IMO, 32 spokes is enough for many (maybe most) people doing loaded touring. It may not be enough for heavy people or a rough stuff expedition, but we're talking about a European tour. I'd have no qualms about doing the trip on 32 spoke wheels.

Re: New Dawes 26"

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 February 2015 - 11:18am
simonhill wrote:What I said was that people WANT flat bars on a bike like this.

You are all doing what has brought British industry to its knees over the last 50 years. You are telling the people what they need then providing it and then wondering why it doesn't sell!

If the hand position and access to the brakes is so important why do I see most riders on drops, not riding on the drops, not riding on the hoods, but riding on the flat tops? This always used to amuse me, people swear by drops, but looking at pictures in Cycle, most were on the tops.

I agree - I think Dawes have missed a trick by not doing a 'butterfly' bar version and axing the Tsunami (if they didn't want too many models). As for the '50 years' I couldn't agree more - it's what had me (and all the kids around me) - at the age of 12 - riding the same gearing as Eddy Merckx or falling off 'Choppers'...

Re: Good places to cycle to in Cardiff

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 February 2015 - 11:18am
brynpoeth wrote:Get a bell and ring it gently a certain distance before you reach the people. Sometims I think, one should assume all walkers are drunk or deaf or listening to loud music so they hear nothing. When the ground is clearly marked with "walker" and "cyclist" there is really no excuse.Exactly. For most pedestrians using a shared off road path, a bell will give about 8-10 seconds (about 50 yards distance at 10mph) warning of your approach.

Re: Rotterdam > Istanbul - Which bike?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 February 2015 - 11:07am
I have the Edinburgh coop bike. It's a lovely ride and the gearing is good for a full load. However one of the tyres failed within days and the wheels are 32 spoke and past versions do not have a good reputation. I had no problems getting EBC to replace the tyre but swapped the wheels for a set of 36 spoke ones I had already, relegating the 32s to the hack.

In your case I would see it as a choice between the Fuji and the Dawes, the main difference being whether you want bar end shifters or STI shifters integrated with the brakes.

All more food for thought!
HTH
Julia

Re: Paris to London

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 February 2015 - 11:01am
I can't advise on routes, as I have never done this trip.

But for improving, I suggest biuling up gradually. Donæt try to do a 40 mile ride, if you arenæt fit for it. Ride a little bit further each time, or get used to one distance, tehn add 5 or 10 miles at a time.

Cyling often may have more benefit, so run errands by bicycle, commute by bike, if you can; once or twice per week, even if you canæt do it everyday. If you live too far away, try mixing transport modes. Drive and cycle, or if you use the train, ride your bike to a somewhat further station.

And remember that it is more down to hours in the saddle than distance, because you will go slower on a long journey, or carrying the shopping than commuting.

Good luck and enjoy the cycling

Re: New Dawes 26"

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 February 2015 - 10:28am
pwa wrote:It is as comfy and varied as I can make straight bars and it is okay, but drops are better.
That is my experience too. I have 2 with straight bars and bar ends but find that after only 30 miles or so it is very uncomfortable for my hands and shoulders. I have 5 with drops which are comfortable for very much longer than that. I seldom use the drops but use every conceivable alternative position regularly.

However - if drops/straights/butterfly/bull horn/ape hangers work for you then keep doing it.

Wheel size - 700C for me but I tend to tour in western Europe so availability if needed is not a problem.

Re: New Dawes 26"

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 February 2015 - 10:22am
I use a 26 inch wheel VSF FahrradManufaktur T400. It is a mainstream manufactured 26 inch tourer with flat bars and is available with a number of different options for levels of equipment. Mine has a Shimano XT group set an has proved to be ultra reliable and day long comfortable. These bikes are available readiy in Europe, over the Internet and at several retailers in Britain. It is true that I can go faster on my Galaxy but I've been able to go wherever I wanted to go on the T400, or rather I haven't found anywhere I couldn't go yet.
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