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Re: E petition surfacing redressing

CTC Forum - On the road - 21 July 2014 - 11:24am
[XAP]Bob wrote:As far as I can tell they don't roll it at all here, and they certainly don't do any sweeping of excess.

They just leave a wide swathe of deep gravel all over the road. The car tyres then flick that up at everyone around as they ignore the "10mph, skid risk" signs, and overtake me as I'm doing more than that (and struggling since the surface is so poor.

Yup, nobody sticks to 10mph. Cue me struggling in inch deep gravel, and a panel van comes past at about 40mph kicking up stones and plumes of dust in it's wake; wasn't impressed.

Re: Cycling on single-track roads

CTC Forum - On the road - 21 July 2014 - 11:20am
That's a stupid idea. While I get as frustrated as the next person being stuck behind a tractor, mandating them to move over otherwise face fines is not on, they have as much right to use the road as anyone - more in fact considering they are engaging in business use, not going for a jolly in the countryside.

Certainly when I'm out cycling on single track roads and I encounter a tractor I'll usually get off and pull my bike to side of the road until they pass, first because they are much bigger than me and second because it's their area and they deserve to be able to go about their business without tourists like me getting in the way.

Re: E petition surfacing redressing

CTC Forum - On the road - 21 July 2014 - 11:19am
As far as I can tell they don't roll it at all here, and they certainly don't do any sweeping of excess.

They just leave a wide swathe of deep gravel all over the road. The car tyres then flick that up at everyone around as they ignore the "10mph, skid risk" signs, and overtake me as I'm doing more than that (and struggling since the surface is so poor.

Re: Getting to Whitehaven

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 July 2014 - 11:09am
eezypeazy wrote:If I were you' I'd try to avoid travelling on a 'rush hour' train from Newcastle, though.


I was planning on travelling on a Saturday afternoon - so there wouldn't be a rush hour then unless it means something other than the usual?
Not too bothered about the cost really, compared with the cost of fuel it's cheap!

Re: E petition surfacing redressing

CTC Forum - On the road - 21 July 2014 - 11:01am
[XAP]Bob wrote:OK - maybe surface dressing is wonderful. Why do they have to leave a half inch of gravel scattered all over the road.

Can they not roll it in?

I think they have to put excess on to make the stuff work into the tar properly when they roll it. Round here they' now go over with a mechanical sweeper to remove the excess - after a number of accidents each summer when surface dressing left sometimes an inch or so of loose gravel on the road. It wasn't helped by the road menders putting the slow down loose chippings signs exactly where the loose chippings started.

Re: Cycling on single-track roads

CTC Forum - On the road - 21 July 2014 - 10:57am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-mid-wales-28328073

Similar issues - how long a queue do you allow before you stop and let them pass? Years ago I had a holiday tractor job on a farm, the conundrum was that some country lanes were so busy that if you pulled over to let cars pass you could remain pinned in the pull-in for ages waiting for a gap - and you end up creating more of an obstruction by occupying a pull-in that was needed for oncoming traffic to pass. Result: gridlock! You need a very quiet room and to speak very slowly to explain this concept to a typical traffic cop or irate motorist.

Re: Getting to Whitehaven

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 July 2014 - 10:55am
Most of the conductors on the Newcastle-Carlisle and Carlisle-Whitehaven/Barrow trains are used to carrying cyclists and very accommodating. Despite the 'official' line being that two bikes can be carried, I've seen five bikes at once this year on the Carlisle train, and a few years ago saw NINE bikes on the local train to Whitehaven (which was a single carriage train)!

If I were you' I'd try to avoid travelling on a 'rush hour' train from Newcastle, though.

Northern Rail have some off-peak on-line advance tickets that may be worth looking at - eg, Ncl - Carlisle leaving Newcastle at 1424 on Friday 1st August is £4.50; then 1631 Carlisle - Whitehaven is £10.20 on the day, total £14.70, compared with a 'through' ticket price of £18.90. That saves £4.20!

EDIT: Cheap fares only available Monday - Friday!

Re: Getting to Whitehaven

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 July 2014 - 10:50am
Richard Fairhurst wrote:The guards on the Cumbrian Coast line are very used to C2C cyclists and will bend the maximum number of bike spaces a bit - well, ok, a lot. If possible, I'd suggest getting a train earlier just so you're not stranded if you miss out, and avoiding the rush hour if you can.

Thanks. I was looking at the direct train from Newcastle at 16.22 on the Saturday. There are earlier ones but you have to change at Carlisle.

Re: Getting to Whitehaven

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 July 2014 - 10:47am
The guards on the Cumbrian Coast line are very used to C2C cyclists and will bend the maximum number of bike spaces a bit - well, ok, a lot. If possible, I'd suggest getting a train earlier just so you're not stranded if you miss out, and avoiding the rush hour if you can.

Re: E petition surfacing redressing

CTC Forum - On the road - 21 July 2014 - 10:26am
OK - maybe surface dressing is wonderful. Why do they have to leave a half inch of gravel scattered all over the road.

Can they not roll it in?

Re: Lon Las Cymru on starting on Sat 6.9.14, campsite sugges

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 July 2014 - 10:19am
This is a great route, we did it from Holyhead to Cardiff a couple of years ago. It took 6 days, so 5 nights camping. We decided to eat our main evening meal in pubs, so all campsites were chosen to be near towns or villages.
First night was at Cae Garw Campsite near the centre of Caernarvon, postcode LL55 2DF. An easy walk into town, very rural feel despite being in town, and best of all it had a segregated car-free pitching area for real campers.
Next night was at a pleasant coastal site just north of Barmouth - good choice of breakfast cafes, I've forgotten the site name I'm afraid but there were a few sites around the resort.
Next was Dol Llys Farm camping SY18 6JA just outside Llanidloes. Lovely spacious site on the banks of the Severn. It has a campers' kitchen where you can use a microwave and kettle. Good curry in Llanidloes.
Next was somewhere around Newbridge, but I've forgotten the name (and it wasn't very nice anyway!).
Last camp was near Brecon at Pencelli Castle site, LD3 7LX. Very nice, and pub-restaurants within walking distance.
We learned not to follow the Lon Las signs when passing through larger towns, signs were often poor and it was a recipe for getting hopelessly lost on a network of local cycle lanes. We just followed the motorists' road-signs and sped efficiently through towns. Similarly in the countryside the NCN route would sometimes take us off a pleasant quiet lane onto a difficult gravel track, so it's best to plan your own route albeit based around the Lon Las trail. The Sustrans philosophy seems to be to avoid motor-roads at all costs.

Re: E petition surfacing redressing

CTC Forum - On the road - 21 July 2014 - 10:11am
cheesypeeps wrote:Hi
Please sign this petition.
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/67408
I nearly came off my road bike the other week as there had been no attempt at all to sweep away the loose stones. Like riding on marbles.
Sadly your petition is based upon a misunderstanding of what surface dressing is and what it is for. I suggest you delete it, because no one will take any notice of a petition founded upon such misunderstandings, and will find them very easy to bat off. We actually need more surface dressing, not less. But clearly we need it to be done properly and safely.

Surface dressing is not resurfacing, cheap or otherwise. It is a life-extension technique for the existing road surface. It is a cost-effective and low carbon road maintenance technique. A lot less of it has been done of late, because of budget restrictions, and this has been a false economy, because it has resulted in road surfaces breaking up and potholing. Potholes are terrible for cyclists, and when you next see a badly potholed road, you can think "if only they'd done a surface dressing in time, this wouldn't have happened."

As I said, what we need is for surface dressing to be done properly and safely. But I would caution against simply demanding things unless you have an idea how they can be practically and effectively delivered. Ask yourself, exactly what legal change do you have in mind that would achieve this. You can say, that's for them to say, but actually it isn't. It is easy for them to say that there isn't a practical adjustment and bat your demands off, unless you actually have something in mind and some evidence that it works well.

Getting to Whitehaven

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 July 2014 - 10:06am
I have the idea of doing a C2C (Whitehaven-Sunderland) in a couple of weekends time - mostly because my wife is on a Hen Party, and the grandparents are looking after the bairn so I have a free pass!

problem is getting me and my bike to Whitehaven, from Chester-le-Street (near Newcastle)

There's direct train from Newcastle to Whitehaven which takes 3 hours but will deliver me to close to the Premier Inn there to stay overnight before setting off early the next morning. But I'm concerned that the cycle spaces don't appear to be bookable and if there's two bikes there already that's my trip finished?

Are there any other ways to get to Whitehaven I haven't considered? Usually if I'm going on a ride from somewhere other than home I'll just drive there, but that would leave my car in Whitehaven which isn't ideal!

Re: E petition surfacing redressing

CTC Forum - On the road - 21 July 2014 - 8:34am
Cunobelin wrote:eileithyia wrote:Signed.... should it not be in an area that is more relevant ie on the road?

Seems to me that on the road is an appropriate place to put a road surface dressing....

I'd suggest otherwise - back to the idiots who suggested it maybe. But keep it off the roads, it's potentially lethal stuff...

Re: E petition surfacing redressing

CTC Forum - On the road - 21 July 2014 - 12:37am
gaz wrote:I think it was early May when I was turned around at the "Road Closed" sign by the lady from the council's contractors. Fair enough too, they've got a job to do and don't need me trying to cycle through the middle of it.

She explained that a number of cyclists had ignored signs and advice over the last few days, adding that she was sure that the various black, noxious, sticky substances involved would be very hard to remove and possibly quite damaging to carbon fibre. How much of that was true and how much was flannel I don't know.

Whilst I don't know the name of the road mending process they were using it was much better than the tar and chippings method described by the OP.

The thing is road closed signs usually lie. Unless a bridge has been taken out it's possible to get through. Last year one of the roads to our village had road closed signs but it wasn't closed at all other than the signs and some plastic barriers all easily removed. The year before similar signs and barriers were put up on the fen road in the next village at harvest. I don't think the tractor drivers carting corn even bothered to remove the signs and barriers they just drove over them.

Re: Gothenburg - Malmo - Copenhagen - Berlin

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 20 July 2014 - 10:18pm
A few miles back I rode the Berlin to Copenhagen bike route http://www.bike-berlin-copenhagen.com/ and it was great experience, you can get a very good guidebook to the route, which shows camp-sites.
http://www.esterbauer.com/db_detail.php?buecher_code=BKH

This route is very good I highly recommend it both the Danish section and the German section.

(having arrived in Copenhagen I crossed over to Sweden and cycles to Trelbourg on south coast and got boat to Rugen Island and cycledhttp://www.esterbauer.com/db_detail.php?buecher_code=BUSE
back to Berlin after going along the coat to Berlin.

On a different trip I got train to Copenhagen and then got Helsingborg Helsingör ferry accross to Sweden and cycled up to Gothenbourg I followed the coastal path, I camped wild on this stretch. see https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/?o=1&doc_id=7405&v=J5

There is a good campsite at a old fort on the coast on the outskirts of Copenhagen - see this page -https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/page/?o=1&page_id=172204&v=2l

Whichever way you go you will have a great time. This corner of the old DDR has a low population density and has great lakes.

Re: E petition surfacing redressing

CTC Forum - On the road - 20 July 2014 - 9:48pm
eileithyia wrote:Signed.... should it not be in an area that is more relevant ie on the road?

Seems to me that on the road is an appropriate place to put a road surface dressing....

Re: Hokkaido

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 20 July 2014 - 9:47pm
I did it in 1984 on a standard tourer staying in inns/youth hostels. What do I remember - it was tough being a vegetarian. I struggled to get the calories in on a rice diet. You will need some good lights for the long dark tunnels ( I can still feel the fear).
People delightfully friendly.
enjoy.

Lon Las Cymru on starting on Sat 6.9.14, campsite suggestion

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 20 July 2014 - 9:38pm
I’m starting Lon Las Cymru on Sat 6.9.14 and will be cycle touring and camping over 7/8 nights

Can anyone please give me their tips and or suggestions re: campsites along the route and where to start and finish

I am unsure as to whether to start in the South or North i.e. Cardiff/Chepstow or Hollyhead and where to start/finish in the South i.e. Cardiff/Chepstow

Thank you in advance for your time

P.S I'm open to being joined on the trip by the right sort of person

Re: Cycling to Nordkapp: searching for suggestions

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 20 July 2014 - 8:42pm
I have just returned from a trip across Europe which included Norway. It took me 4 weeks from Kristianland to North Cape it was ab . I got my route in Norway from the net , I can't remember the name of the site but it is an account written by an Australian lady who rode N.Cape to Kristianland , you'll find it easily. Take front and rear lights for the tunnels and don't worry about the N. Cape tunnels because they are ok ( and I don't like tunnels). Watch out for Germany , the cycle paths are terrible and the motorists do not want you on the road, I was carved up and got really fed up with them blasting their horns at me. The cycle paths are so bumpy that they bust my rear bearings and I have good touring wheels. I would get the train to Denmark and ride from there, I rode up the west coast and the cycle paths and drivers were superb. If you are going in July or August take mossie repellant and a mossie hood. Norway is not expensive if you use supermarkets , a jar of coffee costs 25nk , a 500g bag of pasta 12nk, a good loaf 28nk , 400g of minced meat 20nk .... best of all you can get a free cup of coffee at quite a few of the smaller coop stores. Campsites varied between 100nk and 150nk and they nearly all (bar one ) had good campers kitchens. You can get the bus back from Hennig something on N Cape to Alta airport for 380nk. Good luck Nigel L
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