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Re: Singlewheel trailers - experiences and modifications

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 April 2015 - 10:32am
mercalia wrote:so your trailer didnt come with both options? Mine came with both.

No mine came with a single skewer, no separate nuts.

Dave

Re: Trailer vs Panniers

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 April 2015 - 10:29am
I use a single wheel trailer but have never tried panniers. For me it was because I am on the heavy side so didn't want to put extra weight on the bike with loaded panniers. At first it felt weird pulling the trailer but after a few hours I was constantly looking back to make sure it was still attached as I couldn't tell.

Downside for me was finding somewhere to stand the bike with trailer attached and also finding somewhere to stand the bike while attaching and detaching the trailer. Am sure a 2 wheel trailer would help greatly but for now I have purchased a folding walking stick, which wedges under seat or somewhere else on the bike and you can stand it anywhere (advice from someone on here).

Dave

Re: Singlewheel trailers - experiences and modifications

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 April 2015 - 10:28am
theDaveB wrote:mercalia wrote:no they are for solid axle wheels only

Interesting my folder has solid axle wheels, be great to get some so I could use my trailer on it as well.

Dave


so your trailer didnt come with both options? Mine came with both.

Re: Singlewheel trailers - experiences and modifications

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 April 2015 - 10:22am
mercalia wrote:no they are for solid axle wheels only

Interesting my folder has solid axle wheels, be great to get some so I could use my trailer on it as well.

Dave

Re: Accident Tue 7 Apr 18:00 Uddingston

CTC Forum - On the road - 21 April 2015 - 10:11am
Elizabeth_S wrote:Nope, that's the Keir roundabout! I hate it in a car, there's nothing like coming up the old A9 from Bridge of Allan and going around the Keir roundabout to the Dunblane turn off the B8033, which is dual carriageway , you come around the roundabout and spot the traffic heading south on the A9 towards the roundabout down a hill, you have to pass straight in front if it and does it brake, does it ever! And that's the lorries. For those of you who don't know, it is at the end of the A9 and start of the M9.
Although it's a long way from my regular haunts, I know that roundabout very well (didn't know it was called the Keir R/b though) having driven across it many times, never cycled, and I'm inclined to agree with you! My son who's lived in the Stirling area for some years, knows it even better, he often passes it cycling in the Doune and Callander direction, says he takes a long detour to avoid the roundabout. But apparently that's not an option for people cycling towards Dunblane, they have to take on all the A9 traffic as you say. It's a shame because at another busy roundabout on the old A9, at Stirling Bridge a few miles south, there's a quite serviceable network of cycle paths enabling you to avoid the roundabout itself. Bearing in mind that this is a major route into the Highlands, for cyclists as well as other road users, you'd have thought something could be provided at Keir....

Re: Accident Tue 7 Apr 18:00 Uddingston

CTC Forum - On the road - 21 April 2015 - 10:09am
"Better people" would seem to be the answer to a lot of things.

Re: Trailer vs Panniers

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 April 2015 - 10:06am
I've never used a bike trailer, but I have a lot of experience of towing trailers behind pick-up trucks and minibuses and the thing you are trying to avoid is "snaking", where the trailer starts to weave from left to right. If you are not doing so already, using a mirror to keep an eye on the steadiness of the trailer would be wise.

Re: Trailer vs Panniers

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 April 2015 - 9:55am
Did you know Burley give a 15mph top speed for towing a trailer? Well that is what it said on the documentation for my D-lite trailer. That is not easy to do with the downhills near me. I checked my strava and my top speed was 24.6mph at one point. I had been trying hard to keep to a slow speed at that time. Earlier on I got to about 18mph then I remembered the speed limit and slowed. After that I was trying hard to slow down on the downhills. Not easy to guess your speed at all. Need to get a speedo quick. My last one was a cateye wireless and it stopped reading long before my bike got nicked with the sensor on it.

Re: Singlewheel trailers - experiences and modifications

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 April 2015 - 9:54am
theDaveB wrote:Yeah see what you mean about the skewer, it was the nuts underneath that image that I meant looked good. Thought they came on the skewer but doesn't look like they do.

Dave

no they are for solid axle wheels only - I was at one time thinking of having such a wheel built so I could use them as that soln seems better. But then I made my own skewers - but I had to get another of the nasy ones first so I had 2 screw ends

Re: Accident Tue 7 Apr 18:00 Uddingston

CTC Forum - On the road - 21 April 2015 - 9:51am
People should stick to speed limits, look out all the time for cyclists and pedestrians and everything and should generally be better people.



Well it was worth a try.

Re: fewer motorists fined for mobile use

CTC Forum - On the road - 21 April 2015 - 9:46am
Statistics can get very complicated but one thing's for sure,enforcing the law,in the case of mobile use,talking or texting,etc ain't at all complicated if you wish to stop it.
If the penalties are harsh enough and the policing good enough it'll stop within months of implementation and the same goes with any known dangerous driving activities.
It can be done,the problem is we as a society have deemed we can't afford it and are prepared to liveor die with the consequences something I find abhorrent,we are our own worst enemy.

Re: Trailer vs Panniers

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 April 2015 - 9:36am
For me, child seat + trailer = cumbersome and awkward. I would prefer the child low down in the trailer and the baggage on low positioned panniers. I would include front panniers to steady the steering, as too much weight at the back makes things twitchy. A touring bike, fully loaded, should handle nicely and be easy to control. My wife (normally very careful) once kept up with me as we sped down a Swiss alpine descent at nearly 50mph with four panniers apiece, so putting some weight up front is a good idea.

Re: Trailer vs Panniers

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 April 2015 - 9:23am
I've only towed a child trailer (for about 19 months now on and more often off). Having not ridden much for about 2 or 3 months and only a week into a new bike I really struggled up a very steep hill near me towing the child trailer (Burley D-lite 2 child trailer). I had one 13kg child in and a whole plethora of coats for child and both parents, lunch in lots of plastic boxes, bike locks, toys, etc. etc. etc. Riding up that hill on a bike without a granny gear was not much fun. I was even thinking of changing the cassette to have a lower gearing option.

The idea we had was either each of us with panniers and we towed the child trailer with some stuff in as well as the child on a tour or we got a cargo trailer (would have to be burley for the same hitch) and we loaded that. So one person takes the child, the other takes more of a load. The idea is to even out the load according to fitness and strength. Up until last weekend I would have said I was a stronger rider. I am but not when towing the load uphill without the low range gears. My partner is very unsympathetic in that she says I will just have to get fitter or it will make me fitter doing this. Now growing up on top of a steep hill with 1 in 4 or 5 slopes to get anywhere I got used to grinding it out up steep hills. I just wondered if we ditched the trailer and carried kid and kit on the bikes whether that would feel easier? I guess handling would not be fun at all. Especially for me with the lad being so high up, largest size of bike they do means a very high centre of gravity.

Common sense tells me extra pair of wheels and the extra weight of the trailer means more drag and effort to ride but something makes me think that the feel of a heavily loaded bike would have an equivalency in the feel to that extra weight. Is that right?

Perhaps a single wheel trailer with child on the bike seat might work, two of these trailers to carry the load and if needed panniers on the bike not with the child.

Re: Front rack Advice

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 April 2015 - 9:22am
Update - tried a Tubus Tara lowrider rack, and by using the supplied spacers got it to fit perfectly on the Revolution Country Premier with enough clearance around the disc brakes. Will now order one for the Country Explorer as well as the forks are identical. Could not get a cheap one from Germany in silver though, as they were out of stock at several suppliers, so had to pay a higher UK price.
It does seem to be nice and solid, looks good, and the panniers fit on fine.

Re: fewer motorists fined for mobile use

CTC Forum - On the road - 21 April 2015 - 9:05am
danhopgood wrote:Re. statistics on mobile 'phone use when driving:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31634425

Very interesting.

One thing that's obvious but is still worth noting, is that those observations only show activity at a given time. By that I mean that if you observed the colours of passing cars, you would soon have a pretty good idea what %age of cars were white. A couple of % of drivers using a phone at any given time suggests to me that those drivers are only a small part of the %age of drivers who might use a phone while driving. There will be some drivers, I expect, who never put their phone down and others who only do this occasionally. However, they are all people who consider the activity more or less OK and who might, therefore, be reluctant to convict another driver of causing death if "all they had done" was to use a mobile at the wheel.

Re: Trailer vs Panniers

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 April 2015 - 8:53am
Tangled Metal wrote:Reason for asking is I was towing a child trailer at the weekend and it was hard work. I'm new to touring but have carried a bit of a a load on my bike and it seemed easier. By load I'm talking 13kg of child on a seat plus panniers full of family outdoor kit and picnic, which was a similar amount carried in the trailer.

We have the idea of family touring holiday with child trailer and a cargo trailer from the same company so we could swap trailers. The idea is it takes the load off the bikes (mtb and roady gravel bike).

It could be the trailer and/or it could be the trailer hitch that is the problem. If the flexible bit of the trailer hitch is a spring with an elastomer down the middle then it will cost you lots of extra energy pulling the trailer. The trailer will bounce/tug on the hitch all the time especially when climbing or pushing on. We did two cycle camping tours with this kind of hitch and replaced the hitchs (both bikes and trailers) with Weber couplings. Very much easier to pull the trailer now.

We've now replaced the 18kg child trailer with a 13kg child trailer. Junior is now 15kg and the new trailer (with Weber coupling) is even less work than the old one was (even after fitting the Weber coupling). We prefer Junior in a trailer as it makes the bike more stable.

Weber couplings cost a lot but you can get them to fit virtually any trailer and any bike.

One other thing to check is tyres on the child trailer. We used 55mm wide Big Apples on the old trailer pumped up to just enough to keep the outer tubes on the wheels. This worked well on gravel tracks and rough tarmac. Pump the tyres up too hard with a small child and the trailer will bounce and jarr the child and take more energy to pull.

Re: fewer motorists fined for mobile use

CTC Forum - On the road - 21 April 2015 - 8:18am
danhopgood wrote:Re. statistics on mobile 'phone use when driving:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31634425

Supports what I thought. Car drivers using a hand-held phone are more than twice as likely to be texting than speaking.
I think texting whilst driving should incur an automatic ban of at least a year. It's far more dangerous than speaking on a phone. And the fine/points even for speaking on a phone should be far higher.
£100 as it starts at now isn't enough for either offence. Even the max fine of £1000 isn't enough. Some people spend £100 on phone charges in just a few months, and as the chance of being caught and fined is close to zero, most people would regard a £100 fine as a just a minor charge for doing it.
I suspect that their stats are on the low side. I see more than one in a hundred drivers using a hand-held phone round here, I think they text etc. before joining the nearby motorway, or when they come off it. It's probably more dangerous to do it on the minor roads, but they may feel they're less likely to be caught. Incidentally, there are plenty of laybys, service roads, car parks etc. that they could stop in to phone. They just think their convenience is worth more than other people's lives. And I'm sure that attitude on the road isn't confined to their use of phones.

Re: Trailer vs Panniers

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 April 2015 - 7:44am
There are pros and cons to each but in general I find the trailer produces more drag because of the extra wheel although it flows behind the bike well and I like how the bike responds.

On the other hand panniers are easier to get on and off the bike in a hurry leaving you a more versatile machine. They change the way the bike handles though and I find a fully laden bike cumbersome on hills.

After much trying out of both my normal touring mode is now a combination of both, Bob trailer behind with 2 small ortleib front panniers.

Re: Touring France with a child's trailer

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 April 2015 - 7:39am
British Eagle wrote:Has anyone experience of this? I'm wondering if you can take a trailer on the French trains and how easy (difficult!) it is with two bikes, panniers and an infant (who has trailered since he was 8 weeks old and is now 8 months). We would be camping too.

If your trailer has a nose wheel and can be used as a pram then I suggest that you should check the rules regarding bring prams on French trains. I discovered that a ferry (in Norway) I was thinking of using has a ban on bike trailers but there is no restriction on prams...

We did a cycle camping tour last summer in Norway and Denmark when Syklist Junior was around 7 months old which went very well. We used a train from Oslo back home and the trailer and bikes went in the goods van. It can be a bit hectic when putting your bikes on a train especially if there other cyclists getting on at the same station. Keep a cool head and get into the habit of counting bags in and out of the train.

One suggestion, I don't know which trailer you have but our trailer had one of the basic hitches, a large spring with a piece of elastomer through the middle. These hitches are definitely not suited for longer tours. The trailer tugs rythmically on the bike all the time which is especially tiresome when climbing. If your trailer has one of these then I would suggest you think about swapping it for a Weber coupling set (bike and trailer). These are expensive but work very well.

Re: Trailer vs Panniers

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 21 April 2015 - 7:31am
It has to be better to avoid the considerable extra weight of a trailer unless you really need it.
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