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Re: Touring wheels

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 5:32pm
molzor wrote:i just spoke to a wiggle online representative who recommended me these http://www.wiggle.co.uk/pro-lite-bracci ... ustReviews

he claims they are very strong and hold up to 200kg

20/24 spokes, is he mad?
Yes, he's mad. Those are training /recreational use wheels, and the largest tyre they will take is probably 25 mm wide. You might be able to fit 28 mm tyres. But, IMO, you're better off with what you have.

Re: Grab Theft - handle bar kit

CTC Forum - On the road - 22 December 2014 - 5:29pm
I didnt know about that, thanks for the news. Cant say I have seen any people hanging around traffic lights that I use. It used to be people washing car windscreens then asking to be paid, but I havent seen that for some time

Re: Another death

CTC Forum - On the road - 22 December 2014 - 5:10pm
niggle wrote:....IMO this would belong in the 'Too Lenient' thread if he met the crieria of having killed a cyclist...
It still should IMHO.
The sentence is disgraceful!

Re: Thorn Raven Tour.

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 5:03pm
Gearoidmuar wrote:Very strongly built, Rohloff, extremely wear-resistant rims, Rigida Andra, V-brakes with Swissstop Blue blocks. I've had this bike for the last five years. It's brilliant.
Preceding it as touring bikes were 8 other bikes. This is the best.

But as RonK didn't like his Rolhoff equipped what looks to be a pretty fine tourer on paper,it goes to show not everyone likes the same,similarly so the LHT/DT.
Different strokes an all that.....

Re: Default tourer?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 5:00pm
TrevA wrote:Perhaps this thread should be retitled Default Expedition Tourer? I've never seen an LHT in the flesh. ride with your local Ctc section and you'll find that Galaxies, Panoramas, Thorns and Hewitts still dominate.
You maybe right,and I think PH has a point regarding how much of a load people tour with and mileage loaded v unloaded.
If loaded is for a two or three weeks a year and as an only bike the rest of the time used unloaded,maybe there are better options available.

Thorn Raven Tour.

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 4:55pm
Very strongly built, Rohloff, extremely wear-resistant rims, Rigida Andra, V-brakes with Swissstop Blue blocks. I've had this bike for the last five years. It's brilliant.
Preceding it as touring bikes were 8 other bikes. This is the best.

Re: Default tourer?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 4:53pm
RonK wrote:I've already told you what makes the LHT a slug - I found it a dull, unresponsive, unrewarding ride.
OK.

Suffice to say the Sabbath is two kilograms lighter, smooth, responsive and "glides" (the best way I can express the sensation) beautifully for the effort input - so yes, it is a very rewarding ride.
Glad it suites

It wasn't my first choice either - that was a Dawes Ultra Galaxy, and I spent some considerable effort trying to buy a bike from the psychopath at Spa Cycles,but he just didn't want to sell me a bike.
I don't think you're the first meet with that particular obstacle,or the last FTM

Re: Another death

CTC Forum - On the road - 22 December 2014 - 4:46pm
reohn2 wrote:thirdcrank wrote:661-Pete wrote: ... But I probably shouldn't be speculating - not on this thread at this time. ...

It all depends on the evidence gathered during the investigation, of course, but if this were to result in a contested trial, I'd expect that the defence would emphasise the length of time the deceased had been riding apparently without sleep, and the implication of poor mental health.

Before anybody jumps on me, I'm only predicting a couple of lines the defence might explore, without expressing an opinion on the merit of their doing so.
But could only be of any value if the defendant claimed the cyclist had wobbled/veered/swerved in front the car she was driving.But at twice the legal limit and 15+mph over the speed limit,with four month driving experience,how reliable would her account of events be?
Not very is my estimation .

brynpoeth wrote: .. riding without sleep ... What about P-B-P, it takes place in 2015. Should it be banned or restricted? Open question!
It's something that troubles me about long distance Audax events.
But then again any driver of a vehicle not needing a tachograph to measure time driving,could be behind the wheel of such a vehicle at considerably higher speeds for as long as they saw fit,which is a worrying thought.
The difference of course is that a sleep deprived cyclist would more than likely only put their own life at risk.
Whereas someone driving a motor with the same level of sleep deprivation has the potential for far more devastation.
I am reminded of this ironic story on YACF https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=54579.0 supposed to have been in the Daily Telegraph on 03.12.11:

"Tired driver in crash
A company director killed a motorist after going without sleep for 27 hours.
Nicholas Day, 30, was driving home to his family in St Albans, Herts after a cycle ride from Hyde Park, London to Whitstable, Kent, when his car hit another, driven by father of two, Andrew Viner, 47. Day pleaded guilty to death by careless driving on June 18 at St Albans Crown Court."

EDIT: newspaper report here: http://www.stalbansreview.co.uk/news/94 ... r/?ref=rss

"The judge sentenced Day to seven months imprisonment suspended for two years.

He was told he must carry out 200 hours of unpaid work and he was banned from driving for 18 months and his licence endorsed." IMO this would belong in the 'Too Lenient' thread if he met the crieria of having killed a cyclist...

Re: Default tourer?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 4:39pm
RonK wrote:reohn2 wrote:RonK
According to Vivente's site their WT isn't better specced than the LHT,I'd say their about the same,but it does come 'fully loaded'(quality dynamo lighting,Tubus racks and m/guards) and seems like a nice bike.
Their site tells me I can have one shipped to me in the UK for £1820(no shipping cost).
That's not a bargain,I could buy a DT @ £1100 from here:- http://www.ukbikestore.co.uk/product/34 ... -bike.html and 'load' it myself to the same spec or better ie; dynamo,racks and m/guards etc,for an extra £400.
A DT here costs $2200 - the same price as the VWR but with none of the extras. In local prices, retrofitting an SP dynamo hub, B&M lighting, mudguards, sidestand and a Tubus Logo rack would add another $1000.
And definitely a superior spec with Sugino crankset vs Andel, Nitto Noodle bars vs PMT, Schwalbe Marathon vs Conti Tour Ride etcetera...
Sorry I don't see those particularly as big enough pluses to matter that much.Both cranksets are very similar,h/bars are very similar and TBH neither would suit me.
Tyres are about the same spec.
The etcetera I don't know about.
I'm not trying to put the Vivente down,IMO it looks like a good bike and well specced,but DT/LHT is well worth the £1100(+£400 to load it) asking price in Europe whereas the Vivente isn't the same bargain @ £1820 and considering the supplier is a looonnnggg way of for any warranty claim,things start to look a little one sided from my POV.
In NZ/Oz that balance tips the other way maybe.

Re: A few photo's from Kyrgyzstan

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 4:30pm
Stunning. Not jealous at all [emoji13]

Re: tyre difference

CTC Forum - MTB - 22 December 2014 - 4:25pm
The Schwalbe Marathon Plus is available two types of tread, the block one the MTB which is only an all terrain, the Smart Sam Plus is more of a proper mountain bike tyre is it not? Thought the MTB tread was based on their Alpine tyres and others simplified, is that wrong??

Re: Touring wheels

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 4:23pm
youre probably right, it did fine in summer, why would there be a problem next time. its easy to get drawn in by expensive shiney new parts!

Re: Cycling to Axbridge from Bristol

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 4:21pm
whoof wrote:I'll give that a go next time I'm out that way, what's the surface like after Chescombe Rd/Biddle St?
It varies over time depending on how much maintenance North Somerset Council have bothered to do. It was compacted crushed limestone when I lived there - and better drained than the bits either side of Winscombe.
Not sure that the B3133 is used to get to the airport. From the M5 either A38 or A370 then Brockley Combe Rd are the usual routes.
If you go up Brockley Combe then that means waiting to turn right across the A38 next to the airport, whereas B3133 Congresbury to A38 means turning left.

Re: Touring wheels

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 3:45pm
I have a Kona Honky Tonk too and love it. I have toured on mine and the wheels are still going strong after 4000 miles. The wheels seem strong and fine so don't think they need upgrading.

Re: Touring wheels

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 3:23pm
i just spoke to a wiggle online representative who recommended me these http://www.wiggle.co.uk/pro-lite-bracci ... ustReviews

he claims they are very strong and hold up to 200kg

20/24 spokes, is he mad?

Re: Another death

CTC Forum - On the road - 22 December 2014 - 3:04pm
Vantage wrote:These words need to be drilled into the head of every [ person ] given a driving licence...

A short time later I had to wake up my 12, nine and five-year-old to tell them that their daddy was dead.
The sounds that they made can only be described as horrifying.




bloody right, they should be repeated regularly on the radio instead of advertising and jingles and warnings of safety cameras.

Re: Touring wheels

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 2:39pm
thanks a lot, i think a phone call to spa cycles may be in order.

Re: Default tourer?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 2:34pm
Sounds like the LHT is accurately named. Its obviously a very solid load lugger, not very lively, stiff and sober which is why I never bought one. Our LBS always has one on display, but no Galaxies. But I suspect thats because of bike shop margins, not Galaxy's popularity.
There are Galaxys and Thorns all over the place around here. The Salsa Vaya I ride often gets attention, even a couple of times in France last Spring. I find its a bit more sassy than the Galaxy I once had. I think the Galaxy is still THE Classic default tourer in the UK. In Germany and Holland they all ride bikes resembling Panzers and have bulging calf muscles as a result, even the women! No Galaxies or LHTs there.

Al

Re: Default tourer?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 1:16pm
Cant say I have seen a LHT in London.

Re: Default tourer?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 December 2014 - 12:52pm
As others have said, I think the reason for all those LHT is just the US bias of the site. I've seen maybe 1 LHT over here in the UK. I've seen more Thorns than anything - at least double of all other tourers combined - but then I'm living down in the SW and I have a hunch with SJS on the doorstep they're even more common. I guess other brands might be more popular up north.
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