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Re: American looking for touring partner/s in UK or just adv

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 16 June 2014 - 3:09pm
I'm thinking I will make Cardiff Wales my destination before I turn around and take a different route back.

I think most of the people recommending a visit to Wales were not thinking of Cardiff and parts East of it.
Cardiff would be where a trip to "Wales" would be starting rather than ending.

A compromise might be to make a triangle from Chepstow going up to Brecon and then down to Cardiff on the Taff Trail, then take the train back to somewhere else.

Of course the "Real Wales" is out West beyond civilisation (if Swansea can be called civilisation) though some may say that is just a biased personal opinion.

Re: Electric 'car' fright

CTC Forum - On the road - 16 June 2014 - 3:00pm
I was out running in Delamere Forest with two other guys and as we ran we came up on two horses coming the other way. One of the riders started shouting at us from some distance away (but we couldn't hear) then as we drew level we didn't half get a mouthful for 'running near the horses'!

I don't know much about horses (except they look very bitey and like to lick the arms of joggers) but these particular horses looked to be a lot more stressed by all the shouting their rider was doing. I'd also suggest that if a horse isn't any good around joggers why would you take it out on trails were there are hundreds of them? Presumably it wouldn't be great with cyclists either?

Re: American looking for touring partner/s in UK or just adv

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 16 June 2014 - 2:49pm
drossall wrote:The UK's Ordnance Survey maps are famously good. You probably want the 1:50000 series for cycling, if using paper maps.
But not for all of a 450 mile circular route. You'd need a trailer

Re: American looking for touring partner/s in UK or just adv

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 16 June 2014 - 1:35pm
You have a good mostly off road route from Richmand park along the Thames Path heading in the direction you want to go. Along the lines of this: http://www.cycle-route.com/routes/Kings ... e-533.html if you want to visit some of London. Windsor Castle at the end of the linked ride is one of the ancient royal seats, and still a royal residence today. This route also goes past Hampton Court Palace. You can train it from Windsor.

Many people are terrified of the idea of cycling around our biggest city. In reality there is no need to be. If you want countryside the whole way, there are probably better countries to visit (nothing personal Wales). If you want history and heritage, then don't overlook the big smoke.

Re: Electric 'car' fright

CTC Forum - On the road - 16 June 2014 - 1:10pm
Flinders wrote:As a horse rider, I wouldn't want a bell or horn going off behind me, so I apply the slow-down,-cough or make some other noises well in advance- and-then-say -excuse-me approach. What really spooks a horse is a sudden close noise, or even worse, something appearing suddenly in their peripheral vision that they haven't heard approaching. Some horses aren't used to bikes so their silent approach is scary, one hose I knew didn't mind bikes, but really, really hated high-viz. It's always best to do what we'd like other vehicles to to for us as cyclists- overtake carefully, giving plenty of warning and plenty of space. That's in our own interests too, as when horses shy, they shy sideways, oddly enough sometimes parts of the horse end up going towards what is scaring them.

Also re horses- like cyclists, the more half-asleep they look, the more easily startled they will be. Same goes for their riders!
(And a horse on a long (i.e. sagging) rein is not necessarily laid back either.)
We've had threads about horses before now, and living in an area where there are lots of riders about, I think I'm quite familiar with how to deal with them.

Yesterday, out for a pootle, we approached some horses from behind and I said, in a medium tone of voice, "excuse me, bikes coming" as I normally do. Usually I get an acknowledgement from the riders, but not on this occasion, so I repeated, a bit louder, "bikes coming!". It was on the third attempt that one of the riders reacted, then I passed them. My wife, a bit further back, couldn't overtake because of an oncoming car, so she waited behind: she was then rebuked by one of the riders (as she told me afterwards) for "following too close". Now, my wife is as familiar with horses as I am, she certainly won't follow a horse so closely as to startle it or put herself in danger. Moreover, if a horse is known to be a 'kicker', isn't it supposed to have a red ribbon in its tail or something?

Sometimes I think the riders ought to learn as much about road sense as the animals they're riding...

I must stress, this little encounter was the 'exception that proves the rule'. 99% of all horse riders are the very model of courtesy, in my experience.

Re: My Surly LHT - almost finished!

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 16 June 2014 - 1:02pm
mercalia wrote:I guess you have whats called a thumbs up bike?
It's definitely that!

Re: American looking for touring partner/s in UK or just adv

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 16 June 2014 - 12:36pm
Thanks for the info about Kathie. That is just terribly sad.

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Enjoy your trip, Matt, and let us know when the video goes up on YouTube! Sorry I can’t offer much advice.

Re: American looking for touring partner/s in UK or just adv

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 16 June 2014 - 12:31pm
Monsieur wrote:Caravan club sites have to accept cyclists?
Is that true and has anyone out it to the test?

No, they'll probably refuse you entry (as I have personally discovered) on their certificated sites and will do so on their own sites. The Caravan and Camping Club (note the difference) have a policy not to turn you away on their own club sites (not their certificated sites).

Re: My Surly LHT - almost finished!

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 16 June 2014 - 12:22pm
I guess you have whats called a thumbs up bike?

Re: Electric 'car' fright

CTC Forum - On the road - 16 June 2014 - 12:14pm
Bicycler wrote:Using a horn to warn a horse rider of something behind is asking for trouble, even at 50m. Even with a cyclist up front I think using the horn could give the wrong type of message ("get out of my way"). I'd certainly give them every chance to look round and notice me first. How long do people cycle forwards without looking behind?

I agree but for a silent car driver there's little else they can do so an earlier warning perhaps 100/20m?

PS,TBH I was thinking mainly of cyclists and pedestrians where 50m was concerned.

Re: Electric 'car' fright

CTC Forum - On the road - 16 June 2014 - 12:02pm
Flinders wrote:Twice recently I've had pedestrians asked me, when I have slowed, stopped, coughed and said 'excuse me' when they were walking side by side on a narrow road in front of me, why I didn't use a bell; I explain that some pedestrians don't like it as it created the impression it means 'get out of my way'.

When I had a modern type pingy bells, the reaction I got from pedestrians was often "sod you". But since I got an old-fashioned type bicycle bell, the kind with an internal rotating thing, I have never incurred that reaction. Seems you need to have a bell with the right kind of noise to appear polite rather than impatient.

Re: Any chronic whiplash sufferers here?

CTC Forum - On the road - 16 June 2014 - 11:42am
Gearoidmuar wrote:Soft-tissue injuries tend to get better in the end. They get better in fits and starts.
I got bilateral biceps tendonitis as a side-effect of the antibiotic Ciproxin. Tendonitis is known to be a side-effect of it, and even rupture of the Achilles tendon.
It was really bad for about three months and lasted a full two years, on and off.
Perfect now.

That's interesting....I'd not read about that. I had some tendon trouble after repeated bouts of antibiotics during/after a hospital acquired wound infection; I out it down to age weakening things, but a few years later and it seems to have stopped. I never linked the two until I read your post. I think one of the ones they tried may have been Ciproxin, as I can't take penicillin (not that that stopped them attempting to give me penicillin, mind you)..

Re: Another sad fatality - on a cycle path

CTC Forum - On the road - 16 June 2014 - 11:39am
Steve Lewis wrote:I stumbled on the very sad news of my old friend Bob Mchardy's death by chance only today.

Hi there Steve, we've been missing you and wondered where you got to. I'm sure Steve Griffith the present RSF chairman (contact details available on rsf.org.uk) will be able to put you in touch with Bob's family. He can also tell you some more details I don't really want to post here.

Re: Any chronic whiplash sufferers here?

CTC Forum - On the road - 16 June 2014 - 11:36am
If you can afford it, you could try a chiropractor.
Ask around for a personal recommendation, though, they do vary.

Re: Electric 'car' fright

CTC Forum - On the road - 16 June 2014 - 11:35am
I watched an electric launch glide by, while I was enjoying a sun-downer on the poop-deck the other day and fell to musing about how we confuse the idea of power with noise. There is something slightly other-worldly about something moving fast in near silence. We learn that things we think of as fast are almost always noisy and the noisier, the faster.
While I am entirely sympathetic with the folks who've been startled by overtaking electric vehicles, I imagine in practice they were no closer than the internal combustion engined equivalents... unless driven by some saddo who thought it fun to startle as closely as they could!
It seems a sad irony that one of the great potential benefits of an electric vehicle - its silence - should be considered such a threat that some folk are campaining for fake noise to be added to them!
If you want a weird experience that combines electric engines with bicycles , watch the You Tub clips of the electric TT races...

Re: Electric 'car' fright

CTC Forum - On the road - 16 June 2014 - 11:31am
Bicycler wrote:Using a horn to warn a horse rider of something behind is asking for trouble, even at 50m. Even with a cyclist up front I think using the horn could give the wrong type of message ("get out of my way"). I'd certainly give them every chance to look round and notice me first. How long do people cycle forwards without looking behind?

Twice recently I've had pedestrians asked me, when I have slowed, stopped, coughed and said 'excuse me' when they were walking side by side on a narrow road in front of me, why I didn't use a bell; I explain that some pedestrians don't like it as it created the impression it means 'get out of my way'. (there also isn't room for a conventional bell on my bars). One one of these occasions, I stopped for a chat and we discussed the whole problem, one of the two people said he had a bell on his bike, but used it from a long way back, which seemed to work without creating offence. I'd try it, but would need to find some alternative way of fixing a bell somewhere, and it would need to be very small.

As a horse rider, I wouldn't want a bell or horn going off behind me, so I apply the slow-down,-cough or make some other noises well in advance- and-then-say -excuse-me approach. What really spooks a horse is a sudden close noise, or even worse, something appearing suddenly in their peripheral vision that they haven't heard approaching. Some horses aren't used to bikes so their silent approach is scary, one hose I knew didn't mind bikes, but really, really hated high-viz. It's always best to do what we'd like other vehicles to to for us as cyclists- overtake carefully, giving plenty of warning and plenty of space. That's in our own interests too, as when horses shy, they shy sideways, oddly enough sometimes parts of the horse end up going towards what is scaring them.

Also re horses- like cyclists, the more half-asleep they look, the more easily startled they will be. Same goes for their riders!
(And a horse on a long (i.e. sagging) rein is not necessarily laid back either.)

Re: Electric 'car' fright

CTC Forum - On the road - 16 June 2014 - 11:02am
Using a horn to warn a horse rider of something behind is asking for trouble, even at 50m. Even with a cyclist up front I think using the horn could give the wrong type of message ("get out of my way"). I'd certainly give them every chance to look round and notice me first. How long do people cycle forwards without looking behind?

Re: My Surly LHT - almost finished!

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 16 June 2014 - 10:28am
hondated wrote:Like the bike and especially the colour as its the same colour as my Roberts. I am also glad you posted as I am thinking of replacing my front forks and rather than go for getting another pair sprayed blue as I thought I would I can now just get a black pair knowing they will look OK.Enjoy your bike.
Thanks, I will.
I think the black bars and tape let me get away with the black forks ok

Re: My Surly LHT - almost finished!

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 16 June 2014 - 10:25am
531colin wrote:Weimarunner wrote:Hi Colin, yes, I have thanks.It's the side stands they advise against, I'd go for the double legged version, if I decide to fit one.

What Surly advise against is crushing the chainstays by applying a clamping load that's too big for the tubing. Seen it done. I don't understand how the number of legs will protect the tubing, but its up to you.

Hi Colin, I'm undecided about the kickstand. What surly say in their blog is that over clamping the kickstand when fitting can cause damage and the uneven pressure of a single legged stand isn't recommended. I suppose that a loaded bike rested on one side may apply uneven to that chain stay ?? Surly suggest a particular make of double leg stand that would be preferential over a single sided one.

Re: My Surly LHT - almost finished!

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 16 June 2014 - 10:16am
DaleFTW wrote:How do you fix punctures?
?? Same as anyone else would, drop the wheel out, fix it, put it back. I've never needed to turn a bike upside down to remove a wheel.
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