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Re: Accident waiting to happen.

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 December 2014 - 2:43pm
Bicycler wrote:Can anybody confirm that cyclists do have priority with that layout as it has been built? It is entirely possible that they are waiting for priority cycle crossings to be permitted before marking it as such. At the moment it just looks like a place for cyclists to cross with no reason to assume priority.

The assumption must be that when / if the new regs come into force they will have priority

A new type of crossing is prescribed for use by both pedestrians and cyclists. This shared-use crossing uses the familiar zebra crossing layout for pedestrians with a parallel cycle route indicated by 'elephant's footprint' markings, zig-zags and yellow globes. Drivers must give way to cyclists and pedestrians at the give-way line.

That's from the draft circular which is intended to introduce the new regs. It's only a working document. Presumably it must be close enough to reality for highway authorities to be anticipating it. Bear in mind it's dated 2015, which is still over a week away, but it implies "before 2016."

The menagerie of pedestrian crossings has previously been housed in its own set of regulations but is now being brought under the TSRGD with other traffic signs. There is currently a difference in that the current crossing regs say "give precedence" where the TSRGD refer to "give way." This may be academic but the former has been interpreted by the courts as meaning "allow to pass first" whereas the definition of "give way" (and this is from memory) is along the lines that the driver must not cause danger to the other or cause the other to change speed or direction. In the TSRGD, "give way" lines are the familiar two parallel dotted lines across the carriageway, which are supplemented by an inverted triangle if there's a GIVE WAY sign. The 1997 crossings regs refer to "give way" lines, but the relevant schedule prescribes them as the single dotted line edging a zebra crossing, which logically is a "give precedence" line. Does this legal waffle matter? Not really, till something goes wrong and the lawyers get going.

It all seems to be imminent but there's no publicity. As I've already posted, who's to know what's happening. Will drivers know they are supposed to give way to cyclists? They are often reluctant to give precedence to pedestrians.

Re: 10,000 miles in a year finally

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 December 2014 - 2:20pm
After my injury in July I have had to cut down distances with 15 to 25 miles being the limit, so only 3000 odd for me this year. But, if I was in Suffolk where there are no hills only slopes I might be doing more.

Al

Re: North to south of france ?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 December 2014 - 1:59pm
You talk of the route but have only mentioned your staring point. If you are going down the Rhone valley in Winter, that's the best direction and you may be able to do unusually high average speeds because of the prevailing wind.

Re: Cycling to Axbridge from Bristol

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 December 2014 - 1:44pm
If you are arriving at Temple Meads you could take a local train to Nailsea, which cuts out all the fiddly bits trying to find your way through the docks and suburban sprawl. Depends largely whether you want a ride in the country or to see Bristol's somewhat tatty industrial archaelogy, or any other of the many historic features hidden in the fume filled vortex of the city centre.

From Nailsea by the obvious minor roads W of the railway to Yatton (to which the local train also continues), or to the east via West town end and Chievely, and thence down the Strawberry line to Axbridge or Winscombe before following minor roads to Loxton. The South side of the Mendips is probably more attractive.

The Strawberry line is crushed limestone, in reasonable condition, my daughter has been up and down it several times this autumn on 28-630 tyres, without any problems apart from a smear of white mud on her mudguard reflector. A couple of pleasant moorland sections, a glade and a tunnel.

Re: proviz victim blaming advert

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 December 2014 - 12:51pm
I can't find the word 'right' in there. they certainly didn't seem to be taking a strong position one way or the other on hi-vis jackets. I think it is only right ( ) for cycling organisations and publications to look critically at anything which seeks to place greater responsibility upon cyclists than they already have under the law

Re: Ten Miles a Day

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 December 2014 - 12:49pm
I hit 8400 miles yesterday which is 23 mpd for the whole year.

Re: Accident waiting to happen.

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 December 2014 - 12:45pm
Can anybody confirm that cyclists do have priority with that layout as it has been built? It is entirely possible that they are waiting for priority cycle crossings to be permitted before marking it as such. At the moment it just looks like a place for cyclists to cross with no reason to assume priority.

Re: 10,000 miles in a year finally

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 December 2014 - 12:14pm
mercalia wrote:dont want to be a kill joy but a very strange matter? are you really sure you did 10,000 miles? maybe you didnt set up your cycle computer properly? I suppose some where you have to put in the wheel diameter? maybe your 10,000 miles is 10,000 mini miles?

Ooh harsh!

I think 10000 miles in a year is amazing. I'm usually about 3500 miles and without some seriously long tour or a summer of audax I'd really struggle to get anywhere near that. Respect also to Eileithyia who I recall has done amount this for a number of years. Commuting helps of course but after a certain distance boredom becomes a major hurdle. Well done to all.

Re: North to south of france ?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 December 2014 - 12:08pm
No
No
And No
France is like southern England and the chances of wild camping are more or less the same, so you could sleep in a field of maize, for instance, which is an excellent, private and windless spot for wild camping. But there is unlikely to be much in the way of growing crops in the middle of winter. You will also need to be near the road, or drag the bike into the middle of a wood.
You could start a fire anywhere, but forestry is quite a big industry in parts of France and they get very twitchy about fires, especially in the big pine forests towards the south. There are notices and fire-beaters kept handy.
And the campsites tend to be closed in winter, especially in the north. Many are shut from the end of September onwards.
A search on Google should give you a list of open campsites, you will probably find more open in the south, although you might you can put a tent up on a municipal site once you have lifted the bike and gear over the locked gate, but you might the local gendarmes paying you a visit, and the loos and water will all be off because of the danger of frost damage.
Sorry to pour cold water on your plans.
However, all is not lost. Why not leave the camping kit at home and stay in hostels? They won't be much more expensive than camping. Campsites can cost €10 per night and hostels can be only a few euros more than that. And they're warmer and more companiable than a deserted cold forest or empty campsite. It gets dark early in northern France in winter.

Re: proviz victim blaming advert

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 December 2014 - 11:39am
I think that's quite a good thought provoking advent.

Certainly, pootling around my market town in the dark, there is no shortage of cyclists with no lights at all, or lights that are more like fireflies in a jamjar.

The comment about spoke reflectors makes the key point that it can be any item that alerts others to your presence. I find that pedal reflectors are good at standing out for cyclists is urban camo. This jacket is one more opportunity for cyclists to be more visible at eye level for most drivers.

My one serious critique of this jacket, apart from price, is that there could be more done to help during the day, when battleship grey hides a cyclist as effectively as it hid HMS Belfast.

I'm interested that road.CC in their piece equate 'right' with 'as required by law'.

Ferdinand

Re: 10,000 miles in a year finally

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 December 2014 - 9:49am
dont want to be a kill joy but a very strange matter? are you really sure you did 10,000 miles? maybe you didnt set up your cycle computer properly? I suppose some where you have to put in the wheel diameter? maybe your 10,000 miles is 10,000 mini miles?

Re: What do you say?

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 December 2014 - 8:53am
And then last night my wife and I were cycling two abreast through the park, on a cycle path in the dark. I heard a small 'ding' behind me and Jean said, 'there's someone behind'. I looked round and was trying to work out how best to single out when the cyclist just barreled between us and rammed our bikes. After untangling the bikes, the rider, who said not a word, then cycled off. On reaching our destination I found that Jean's bike had sustained a bent rack and a snapped indicator chain.

Impatience, it seems, is not restricted to motorists!

Re: Pennsylvania

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 December 2014 - 8:48am
Lancaster county and Philedelphia are my favourite parts of Pennsylvania. The Harley Davidson factory in York is worth a visit.

I meant to suggest that part of the ACA Atlantic Coast route, might be used, but I see you've found it

Re: Accident waiting to happen.

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 December 2014 - 8:37am
Pete Owens wrote:gaz wrote:MrD wrote:There is no give way marking for road traffic heading south, and I don't recall any give way signs.

If all works seem complete I'd suggest that you ask Bristol City Council why the scheme has not been delivered "to plan".

It was probably picked up during the safety audit; zebra crossings are not supposed to feature give way markings.

But a shared crossing with a cycle route using a zebra is also unusual. The give way markings may be the only way to legally cede priority to cyclists. I don't expect that the autditors (if that's what happened) considered that.

Re: Pennsylvania

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 December 2014 - 8:34am
We spent several days in Williamsburg after visiting Lancaster County. I shall never forget getting up at 6am to take photos of the misty cornfields near Intercourse and hearing no motor cars but just the distant clip clop of the Amish buggy horses taking the families to church on Sunday morning. You will never see anything like it anywhere. Williamsburg is a gem. The buildings are amazing, the history of the revolution is gripping. And then there is nearby Jamestown, Americas first enduring colony with a reconstructed fort, village port and ship. Just down the road is Yorktown where the Americans assisted by the French lead by Lafayette, dealt the death blow to British colonialism in America at the decisive battle. Another very interesting site which the Americans do so well.
If you are interested in anything other than staring at the tarmac these places deserve some time, as does Plymouth Rock, the Mayflower and nearby reconstructed village back in the North.

Al

Re: 10,000 miles in a year finally

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 December 2014 - 7:52am
reohn2 wrote:eileithyia wrote:I still have 200miles to go, well done cos i know how hard it is to do..
You've a week.
No worries

Indeed if necessary a couple of extra long rides will be added in somewhere......

Re: 10,000 miles in a year finally

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 December 2014 - 7:36am
eileithyia wrote:I still have 200miles to go, well done cos i know how hard it is to do..
You've a week.
No worries

Re: 10,000 miles in a year finally

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 December 2014 - 4:49am
Lot of miles!!
Commuting or pleasure?

North to south of france ?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 December 2014 - 3:34am
Hi folks. I'm very new to this game but would really like to ride from the St Malo area south. Not too sure how far or for how long but I've still got lots of questions I hope you can help me with. The latest that springs to mind is, can I wild camp in France? Can I light fires in France ? If 'no' to the previous two questions, are there sufficient winter campsite facilities en route to be feasible between north and south ? I've already had some great information and specific pointers to those who've done the route but i'd like to hear the views of anyone else who's done this route in winter?

Cheers
Jim

Re: Accident waiting to happen.

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 December 2014 - 1:32am
gaz wrote:MrD wrote:There is no give way marking for road traffic heading south, and I don't recall any give way signs.

If all works seem complete I'd suggest that you ask Bristol City Council why the scheme has not been delivered "to plan".

It was probably picked up during the safety audit; zebra crossings are not supposed to feature give way markings.
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