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Re: Stop!

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 March 2015 - 9:18pm
Mick F wrote:Some of us continually go round in circles.
That's because they've removed the traffic light controlled crossroads and replaced it with a roundabout .

Re: Stop!

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 March 2015 - 9:13pm
Mick F wrote:Some of us continually go round in circles.

I feel that I'm doing that all the time these days.

Re: Stop!

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 March 2015 - 9:09pm
Some of us continually go round in circles.

Re: Burly blokes on the pavement - why?

CTC Forum - MTB - 9 March 2015 - 9:03pm
Bicycler wrote:I don't disagree about the poor behaviour of many cyclists around pedestrians, though I will point out that the other major difference is the way in which cyclists in this country are generally expected to share busy, narrow and most importantly, unsegregated routes with pedestrians in a way which wouldn't be normal in other countries. To an extent we expect our urban cyclists to show common sense and restraint to avoid conflict where other countries would design out the conflict to begin with.
I don't know about that,in towns and city centres in France,Italy,NL and Spain cyclists and pedestrians do quite well mixing together especially in Italy(Tuscany) where streets are quite narrow.
Equally so drivers treat cyclists with greater respect in those countries.

......... The young are assumed to be up to no good and are tarred with the same brush regardless of what they do.

Not by me,I try to have respect for anyone I meet from the very young to the very old,it's only when they don't respect me or their environment I have something to say.

Re: Stop!

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 March 2015 - 9:01pm
Once we've got our skates on will we find that we're rapidly heading towards resurrecting an old thread?

Re: Chains n' stuff

CTC Forum - MTB - 9 March 2015 - 9:01pm
Doing the sums suggests saving on new chains is a false economy. You are allowing a cheap part to wear out expensive ones. Keep on top of cleaning and replace chains as they show signs of wear and you can get several chain-lives out of a cassette and several cassette-lives out of a chainring/set. The only exception is where you are confident about having to replace the whole shebang, you might as well do as you did and keep the old chain going.

Chain gauges are fine but a decent metal rule is more than adequate

Re: Stop!

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 March 2015 - 8:28pm
I agree with your devil.

If pedestrians wore rollers skates, would they have to stop at a red light?

Re: wessex ridgeway

CTC Forum - MTB - 9 March 2015 - 8:27pm
I don't think too much of it is open to bikes. I walked a bit of it from Lyme Regis and I am pretty sure it was mostly public footpath. IIRC correctly it was well signed though so navigation without GPS should be okay.

Re: Burly blokes on the pavement - why?

CTC Forum - MTB - 9 March 2015 - 8:18pm
reohn2 wrote:Sorry for the delay in replying I'd missed your post.
and I missed your reply. It's easy to miss posts on this section of the forum.

I don't disagree about the poor behaviour of many cyclists around pedestrians, though I will point out that the other major difference is the way in which cyclists in this country are generally expected to share busy, narrow and most importantly, unsegregated routes with pedestrians in a way which wouldn't be normal in other countries. To an extent we expect our urban cyclists to show common sense and restraint to avoid conflict where other countries would design out the conflict to begin with.

I don't get much grief either. I've had the occasional altercation with drivers who didn't understand that "no motor vehicles" and "except cycles" plates allowed me to use a route they couldn't. I've heard very occasional comments whilst using towpaths and bridleways from walkers convinced that bicycles weren't allowed. Even then it's been an overheard comment rather than anybody directly challenging me. On the other hand I am conscious that my experiences may not be typical. The treatment and perceptions of you and I may differ from that of many urban cyclists due to our age. The young are assumed to be up to no good and are tarred with the same brush regardless of what they do.

Re: Stop!

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 March 2015 - 8:02pm
Playing devils advocate, aren't bicycles a different type of vehicle and shouldn't they be considered differently to motor vehicles? Why ought rules designed to control flows of motor traffic apply to cyclists?

Re: North Antrim Coast Road any Advice

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 9 March 2015 - 7:59pm
Hi Sunrise
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Strabane -B&B Great owners and next door to Oysters, the best restaurant in town http://www.flavouroftyrone.com/accommodation/specific/mks-bb

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Derry - B&B Central location within the city walls, http://no8thetownhouse.co.uk/accommodation

Re: lorry passing too close

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 March 2015 - 7:43pm
This is mine from this morning..... Should I report the driver?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKl90rG ... e=youtu.be

wessex ridgeway

CTC Forum - MTB - 9 March 2015 - 7:42pm
Are there any GPX files to upload to garmin for this route? anyone? Thanks

Re: Garden of England

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 9 March 2015 - 7:41pm
Here's the Kent part which I did in 2010, mainly round the coast + pm me if you want more on Sussex beyond Eastbourne:

https://roundthebendpart1.wordpress.com ... pril-2010/

Re: Butser Hill - proposed cyclepath for the missing link

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 March 2015 - 7:25pm
This project is still happening, with a bit of a delay . . . . . I don't expect it to be open until 2016 . . .

Queen Elizabeth Country Park to Petersfield cycle route
Updated 15 January 2015

Expected start date
Expected start: April 2015 and expected completion: November 2015.
http://www3.hants.gov.uk/transport-sche ... scheme.htm

Trying to squeeze the path around the corner into the Country Park is proving to be hugely expensive.

Re: Stop!

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 March 2015 - 7:18pm
[quote="pwa" ............ some cyclists see themselves as informal road users, or pedestrians on wheels.[/quote]Nicely put.
Pedestrians on wheels.

You see it all the time. The other day at the lights in the village, a chap on a bike came down the hill to the left of the traffic waiting at the red light passing them all and mounted the start of the pavement, then proceeded through the lights and tuned left ......... still on the pavement .............. then off and up the road after the pavement ended.

Had I been a pedestrian (on foot!), I'd have done as he did.

Re: Eastern European cyclist escorted off motorway

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 March 2015 - 7:11pm
That situation where there is a junction is an interesting scenario. It is very similar to the one I mentioned earlier where a crossing was threatened with closure without replacement because people viewed the crossing as unsafe and campaigned for a bridge (which the then Ministry of Transport was unwilling to provide). The excuse in that case (and I assume in your example) is that a bridge placed in the immediate vicinity of the junction would limit visibility at the junction.

Re: Stop!

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 March 2015 - 7:04pm
An important point here is the different manner in which rljing is conducted by motorists and cyclists. From my observations misbehaving motorists' RLJing seems to consist of a lot of amber gambling which continues for a couple of seconds after the lights have changed to red. There is also a lot of encroachment beyond the stop line and ASLs. Misbehaving cyclists by contrast tend to be much more noticeable in their RLJing, effectively ignoring the lights altogether.

I must admit to being a bit uncomfortable when cyclists groups try to draw an equivalence between this behaviour. Whilst, of course, misbehaviour by motorists has the greatest potential for danger and is therefore the more serious, I think that ignoring red lights in the manner some cyclists do is clearly more form of RLJing. I suspect that if motorists started sailing through lights in such a manner we would all agree on that.

Re: Eastern European cyclist escorted off motorway

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 March 2015 - 7:03pm
How about this one in South Yorkshire, a little north of Doncaster.

road crossing.JPG

The road is the A1 and i've never seen this bit of road as quite as Google have captured it! I have used this crossing from Skelbrooke to Campsall but i certainly wopuldn't recommend it. The alternatives are a newish road bridge half a mile north or a footbridge about the same distance south close to where the road becomes motorway. The local buses don't go into Skelbrooke so school children have to cross here every day, on a bike you could more easily use the bridges but it would add quite a chunk to your route especially going west.

Re: Eastern European cyclist escorted off motorway

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 March 2015 - 6:51pm
Vorpal wrote:Bicycler wrote:Vorpal wrote:Often, the real problem is crossing them. They aren't pleasant places for walking, and there are usually (not always) better alternatives.
The footpaths crossing at level nonsense is part of the reason they don't make these roads motorways where they would be obliged to provide a bridge or subway.
That was my point.
Ah, okay. My apologies for the repetition.

The one thing I will add is that paths with even moderate levels of use do tend to be provided for and - by and large - the remainder tend to be little used rural paths which seldom have many vulnerable users who would find the road a particular obstacle. It does depend upon the road though. True pseudo-motorways may be difficult for anyone to cross and bridges should always be provided.

Nevertheless, an informal crossing is still preferable to no crossing. One thing to bear in mind with proper motorways is that, though provision must be made, it does not necessarily follow that the provision will be nearly as convenient as the path it replaced. Many rights of way crossing motorways will be extinguished and others significantly diverted to minimise the number of crossings. In some locations a similar policy is followed where a bridge or subway is provided for an A-road.

I live near a dual carriageway crossed at grade by 4 footpaths in relatively short succession (say 200m) . Traffic volumes are fairly high but low enough to mean there is seldom a wait of much over a minute to cross each carriageway. The ideal may have been four bridges but I am fairly confident that the four crossings are more convenient than a single bridge with significant diversions which would have been a much more likely outcome.
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