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Re: Walking bike

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 February 2015 - 8:47pm
Interesting concept and possibly quite fun to r̶i̶d̶e̶ walk.

It would appear that walking on the treadmill simply kicks the motor into life which then powers the cycle and the treadmill .

Certainly not cheap but I suppose I ought to compare the price with e-bikes rather than BSOs.

Re: Veloscenic France

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 February 2015 - 8:34pm
Useful clarification, Jon, thanks. It's a part of France we know a little, but not cycled at all - as good a reason as any to give it a go!!

Re: help with a route

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 February 2015 - 8:32pm
There must be a few bits of canal that you could cycle alongside. Anyone know anything about the Oxford Canal?

help with a route

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 February 2015 - 8:21pm
How brilliant. You have my support and blessing.

How about for the bottom, horizontal part of the 'Z' you go from Bristol, Bath, Reading, London along the Bristol-Bath cycle route then along the Kennet & Avon all the way (or there abouts) to London?

Happy to 'pilot' you along some of the way.

I'm a 'friend of a friend' who came out the other side of a suicide attempt so I get your drift. I know why you are riding for their memory. One of my best friends and I'm still glad he still is. So is his family. Lots to say about the forces but that's another rant.

It's a good thing cycling produces endorphins [emoji4]

First Tour (Norway)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 February 2015 - 8:21pm
Hi I'm planning on doing about a 3/4 week tour in the beginning of August. I'm 20 and doing it Alone. I'll mostly be wild camping. Flying into bergen from Dublin (flight most likely to oslo then on to Bergen) I plan to cycle to Voss, then take the Rallavegen to Flam where I'll take boat through the fjord and back to Flam. Continuing on down the Rallavegen and to its end, I'll hopefully then make it to Oslo.
If I have time/money I might cycling/train it to Stockholm.

Here's just a few questions.
Should I have a GPS? Id rather not (feels like cheating) but I don't want to get lost and I'm not great with a map as I often don't know where I am to begin with.I don't want to waste days trying to find my way or take a one wrong turn and be set back days. Norway seems to have little towns in the centre so it should be straight forward enough just following one road from town to town? (Obiviously knowing the towns names before I go and where non cyclist tunnels are)

I'll be bring my SLR camera and phone which will need charging, do you recommend a dynamo? There a bit expensive so I'm not sure. Was gonna buy extra batteries and portable chargers. Anyone use a dynamo? Might need to for lights in tunnels?

I'm currently using just standard running shoes and pedals. I see clip less and cleats would greatly increase my efficiency cycling but there adding to my basket of expenses would cage pedals suffice or should I just spend a bit extra for clip less? Better for long run.

Also would I need fully waterproof clothing or is shower proof enough for touring and wild camping? Again thinking of money, waterproof always seems expensive ha.

Finally, a lot of people recommend a power meter for efficiency and to teach me how to pace etc but they are as expensive as my bike!! Can't understand why, is there no work around?

Yes I'm fairly new to cycling and really noobie to touring.
I'm saving for a tour bike at the moment and all of the above expenses are scaring me as I'm a student with little money
Planning a weekend tour to test myself first before I go.

Re: Panniers as airline baggage

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 February 2015 - 8:18pm
Simon hill
Yes. I couldn't believe it.
I have checked x2 and been told 40kg each time.
And they confirm the dimensions the same each time.
So I guess they are reading off a form/ script.

I am paying 90 euro for my bike each way.
And that is 40 kg as well.
And the dimensions are generous.

Turkish airlines.

Just reading the eticket confirmation email and 40 kg is stated there as well.

For anyone interested in total costs, the return ticket, Edinburgh, Istanbul, Bishkek, was £545.

£270 each way. I think a good price?

A single was nearly two thirds of a return.

Leave on May 26th. Return July 26th.
Hope to do the Pamir Highway.

Thanks to all the folks who have given advice on packing the panniers.

Re: Filthy Drivers: Roadside Rubbish

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 February 2015 - 8:07pm
I see it all the time,particularly obvious examples are m/way slips especially where there's TLs,and the odd three paice suite and matching carpet in some of the most picturesque locations
Generally,elements of the UK populous are a careless couldn't give a monkey's,dirty lot with little or no social conscience.
Sad innit?

Re: Etiquette for French cycle paths

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 February 2015 - 7:41pm
Well "Keep Right" would be my expectation too, even though the converse often seems to be irrelevant in the UK.
I apologise for expressing myself poorly. I'd have done better to ask for insights into how the French conduct themselves on these paths, especially holiday makers on hired bikes. More "law abiding" than UK equivalents, or not?

Re: Filthy Drivers: Roadside Rubbish

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 February 2015 - 7:32pm
beardy wrote:When I see a gel wrapper on the road I think it must have been some scum of a cyclist and when I see a banana skin I suspect that is also a possibility, even a probability if it is the right sort of place.

However I find it hard to believe that the car tyres, TV sets, mattresses, MacDonalds, Coke bottles, feed sacks and the other 99.99% of roadside rubbish was dropped by cyclists.

So even as a cyclist I find the minuscule amounts of rubbish dropped by cyclists to be possibly a million times (by weight) as offensive as that dropped by others.

Some litter louts are aware of the fact that it isnt illegal to dump on private land and drop their rubbish accordingly.

I'm with you Beardy. As another 'beard' I'm keen on compostables. I like the natural energy bars made by Mule. Apart from being the only bar my body has benefited from without having to bring in 'Ram-Rod' (or whatever those drain dudes are called) I'm happy to say that their packaging is stated as compostable. Like the previous (and wonderful) earlier post 'If you can be bothered to take it there full, you can be bothered to take it home empty' I still take Mule bar wrappers home. I'm experimenting with them in my 3 ton compost.

As for banana skins. Well that's just a slapstick moment waiting to happen...hc

Re: Cycling into the sun

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 February 2015 - 7:31pm
The profit margins on cycling clothing and accessories is on average 5 x cost. Because people cannot understand the difference between cost and value. I wear a superb set of bib tights from Decathlon. £19.99. Yet in the magazines they do comparisons of £150 + products. . . If you will pay £2000+ for a bicycle you are fair game.
Sunglasses are are even worse the profits are massive, but as long as people will pay £100 for trainers that cost £0.40 to make (seriously) you deserve all you get.
Go to your local safety clothing company, get superb glasses, base layers, even walking trousers for a fraction of the cost

Re: Taking a bike on a train

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 February 2015 - 7:30pm
I think this just shows where public transport falls down, I reckon once you own a car, driving always seem to work out cheaper, a lot more convenient and often quicker too. That's before you take into account all the time taken researching the cheapest tickets and whether or not it's possible to take a bike with you to actually be able to get where you want at the other end.

Re: Etiquette for French cycle paths

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 February 2015 - 7:07pm
It should happen that way that you pass the same way as the road.
Why would you pass on a different side to the road in that country
I have had oncoming cyclist and motorcyclist and cars pass me on my left (inside) in the UK

Re: Taking a bike on a train

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 February 2015 - 7:06pm
horizon wrote:The fat commuter wrote:... sitting on a train reading or simply looking out of the window is preferable to driving over The Snake Pass and then travelling around the M60.

The train station is about two and a half miles away on the Sheffield side, similar on the Wigan side. It would be much easier if I could just get on my bike and do the short journeys either side on bike.

So you have this vision. A beautiful, simple one. Of ease and environmental harmony. Of man respecting nature but economically and simply going along his way. Of joy without harm, without excess. A simple, beautiful notion.

And then you come back to reality. You mention it to a railway man and ask again, "How possible is it?". Suddenly you are surrounded by barking, shouting men and women in uniform threatening you, calling Security, berating and embarassing you in front of all the other passengers, or waving tickets and booking conditions in your face, telling you it's impossible, telling you to leave your children with their bikes at home, laughing at your tandem. Two bikes only they scream, two bikes only. And so you turn, grim faced back home, angry and astounded, disbelieving.

So next time you know better. You make yourself inconspicuous. You push, negotiate, argue. You are quick, quicker than they are. You are like a refugee on the last train out of a war zone but you make it. And you look at their false-smiling glib publicity photos of happy passengers in their smart clothes and you know you have joined an underworld of intelligent, different but unheard people.

Sorry, your question was...?

Not personally experienced the above, but I've witnessed it. I was catching a train from Leicester to Nottingham. It's a sprinter-type train and about half full, not packed. A lad gets on with a bike and the guard tells him to get off saying "I'm not having him on here with that bike". The platform manager joins in, telling him to get off and get on the train behind (An intercity going to Derby!). The lad is travelling to Nottingham. He tries to argue but then gets off the train with a look of frustration on his face. To my shame, though I thought about it, I didn't jump to his defence.

help with a route

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 February 2015 - 7:03pm
A very close friend of mine committed suicide nearly a year ago now and a friend and I have decided to do a cycle ride to raise money for a mental health charity. His name was Zane so I have come up with an idea to basically cycle a 'Z' on the map of England. The route needs to be about 50 miles a day and last from max of 6 days because of annual leave. Nothing too hilly as my friend is not a cyclist. I was thinking of Burton-on-Trent- King's Lynn -Oxford - London (finishing in SW London where he lived and died).

I would really appreciate thoughts about this as a route or alternative 'Z's on the map of England that would be great cycling. Also on the route I have suggested, people's comments would be really appreciated as I do not know what the roads are like - commuter hell or nice cycling?

Re: Etiquette for French cycle paths

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 February 2015 - 6:35pm
IIRC - as an example: the (50 or 60 mile) dedicated cycle route along an old railway line N of Macon has signs to keep to the right (i.e. same protocol as the road) - that particular route also has signs that instruct pedestrians to walk on the grass verge rather than the tarmac ... leaving that for cyclists and rollerbladers


Re: Etiquette for French cycle paths

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 February 2015 - 6:33pm
I'm not sure I understand the question... surely in any country cyclists will naturally be on the same side of cycle paths as cars are on the roads?

So in France, it is indeed on the right, unless as you say there is a good reason for avoiding that side that would overrule people's automatic tendencies!

Head On Crash Avoidance........Two Bikes!

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 February 2015 - 6:23pm
Out Yesterday and approaching a T junction (going out) last bit is single track, so you wait if car is coming in and they wait if you have blocked the road coming out.
I approach the narrow bit and car coming in so I bear left a bit and car should keep left and I can pass into narrow bit.
Car comes through and then I realise they is driving straight at me and car swerves to miss me
I can only conclude that the driver never saw me when they came though the narrow bit and at last moment saw me and swerved to miss me.
I was in full view and had not entered the narrow bit, lucky that I took avoiding action, well actually I didn't as they swerved first, and that would be my next move immediately. I could not see their face but I imagine that they were preoccupied with another task

Later on in same area I was turning right behind a car and notice they are on their mobile, so as the car turned right with me following behind I caught a glimpse of their face in wing mirror and pointed at them, immediately they dropped the phone and speed of like they do But a road sweeper hoovering up mud from the road works was closing the gap going our way they raced for the gap between the sweeper and wall and just past
I don't think they wanted a confrontation even with a cyclist.


On my way along a cycle path which was originally a footpath along what might have been a track adjacent to the railway (Goods single track).
I don't normally hang around but I do have to have my wits about me for sometimes groups or even a single cyclist come blindly into view, blocking the whole path (I am sure they think its one way).
This occasion came up very very quickly and at the moment I thought that we would collide head on with no room for passing,
I would bet my last penny that there would be injuries both sides.
I have never been that close.
One - two fast cyclists, not normally a problem as I always slow on the blind bits.
Two the other cyclist was easily my weight (all up 99kgs)
Three - not enough room for safe passing except at a fast trot.
Four - leaves covering the path.
Five - my hands were not on the brakes

I quickly braked without losing control and managed to bring the bike to a stop but that was not in the front of my mind.
What was, that there was simply not enough time for both of us to stop before we butted heads
I could only stop in the middle of what is a very narrow piece of hard ground with leaves and rubbish on both sides.
I now know why I was so worried, the other cyclist appeared not to slow at all and passed me at speed...........on My Inside
I don't think that cyclist anywhere are advised to pass on the right when meeting another cyclist
I have had a few try.
There are no markings on the path at all, no signs except one at the road entrance which says give way to pedestrians, I am assuming that it refers to the staggered gate which the sign is on but not that visible.

A moment after I stopped and the cyclist passed me I said *&$$!£ *&$$ not to the cyclist so much but to my surprise that I had not come to grief, on looking behind the cyclist sped off with out a blink.

Its apparent that the other cyclist who was matching my speed did not brake, slow and I will never know if they had always intended to pass me on the left (my left) but many cyclist I meet seem confused as to which side to pass.
Lucky for us both that I braked and left a slim path for them to go through.
If I had pulled up on my left not the middle (well there was only the middle) I am even more certain that we would of collided.
Its not just cars that worry me................................

Re: Filthy Drivers: Roadside Rubbish

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 February 2015 - 5:54pm
It was interesting to see the contrast between the UK and Denmark and Holland. Mrs M_W both commented on the lack of litter in Denmark and Holland when we cycled abroad

Walking bike

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 February 2015 - 5:51pm
Looks like fun, what do people think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8G3xxjiz-0

Re: Veloscenic France

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 February 2015 - 5:44pm
I may have misled you with the term 'unsurfaced'.

That description covers a multitude of surface types, however in this case it simply means unsealed.
The surface is flat and ridable with any bike, easily for a few kms, but for these distances it can become tiresome.

enjoy your trip.
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