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Re: The Arrow ... my first Sportive.

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 June 2015 - 8:14pm
In the meantime. . We went to the Eroica. Had a great time. I rode the 30 mile event on Sunday. God it was hard. Uphill and uphill for an hour, then downhill for 4 minutes, then uphill again.
Best moments. . Chatting to Brian Robinson at Tideswell church, the wonderful spread at Eyem, finding out that the guy that collapsed on the climb out of Eyem was ok and the wonderful cheering and support from villagers and those at the Bakewell show ground as we got back.
Eroica Britannia . . Brilliant weekend.
Next target . . The Ripon Revolution.
Then . . The Suffolk Spinner.
She has bought me a new bike for my birthday on the back of all this, and a Garmin Edge.
RESULT . .

Re: another cyclist killed by a lorry in London

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 June 2015 - 7:34pm
Chatted with my sister on this topic just an hour ago. She drives and rides in cities and towns all over England and Northern Ireland . She was quite forthright on the subject. Women going up the left hand side of lorries and busses' while men wait behind them. She finds it frightening that women don't seem to have got the message. And yes, she was knocked off in Belfast doing the same thing 8 years ago. Minor injuries
Is this an education thing ?
Our heart goes out to family and friends of this poor lady.
This has to stop!

Bicycles from Britain to Continent

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 June 2015 - 7:27pm
I am 1 of a group of 70+- year-olds that enjoy cycling on the Continent. For several years, we have been taking our own bicycles. The tours have been immensely enjoyable, apart from the ordeal of getting airlines to carry the bicycles from Britain to the Continent. We have had outright refusals to carry them, or we have found when they did carry them that the bicycles had been damaged in transit, and of course, when we accepted that we must pack the bicycles in specialist holdalls, we have been discouraged by the cost and chore of storing the holdalls, &c.

This year, we tried the formula of getting a tour-operator to choose the route, provide the bicycles, book the hotels, carry one's luggage from hotel to hotel, &c. Result: good hotels and luggage-transport, but dismal routes and even more dismal bicycles. None of us will do that again....

What is the recommended way around this ? Send one's bicycles over by freight ? Take them on Eurostar ? Hire a bicycle at one's destination ? If the latter, can one return it to a depot other than the one from which one hired it ?

Re: Breathable cycle jacket

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 June 2015 - 7:00pm
I use Gore in the summer and an Endurra Stealth in the winter. Its expensive but worth the money. It has a warm lining otherwise I would use it all year. As close to 100% waterproof as you will get with venting zips which work very well

Re: Map reading - can anyone do this now?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 June 2015 - 6:39pm
GPS must take a lot of fun out of getting lost.
I remember being on top of the Glyders in a white out and getting a suspicion we were going the wrong way. I got the compass out but had to ask whether the red end or the white end points north. We were going the wrong way, by 180 degrees.
Or being in the Cuilins in thick mist and again having an uneasy feeling. The rocks are often magnetic so the compass can't be relied on. We had to retrace our steps back and forth to pick up the main ridge again.
What larks.

Re: Map reading - can anyone do this now?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 June 2015 - 6:03pm
I've always loved using maps and still do all of our cycle planning using OS.
As an OS Getamap (now superseded by OS Maps) user I plot a route and print it out to use on my bar bag.
All has worked well until last week in Worcestershire.
We'd followed the NCN routes through the city (confusingly marked as route 6, 45, 46 and 442 all at once) and came upon the start of Route 3 to get us east of the city. However, I misread the way the blue sign pointed and took the wrong road out. After 20 minutes or so, arriving at the A38 I realised I'd gone wrong, but couldn't for the life of me work out where we were (as it was off the bit I'd printed out).
There were a couple of road crews nearby, so I asked for assistance and they hadn't the foggiest idea where we actually were and couldn't work out a route using their Satnav ( ).
After some time on a ring road I found one local chap walking his dog who put us roughly in the right direction and some time later I was shocked to find ourselves back at the start of route 3 again. There I realised my mistake and managed to get us on track again.
As it was my birthday and Mrs. Copy hadn't bought me a present, I suggested that maybe it was time to invest in a GPS of some sort.
I've always been reluctant to buy one as I always imagined I'd be missing out on the surrounding features if slavishly following a purple line or whatever. Now I'm not so sure.

Re: Breathable cycle jacket

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 June 2015 - 5:41pm
A Paramo jackets sounds like it would suit you pretty well. They're very breathable and quite warm. Not the lightest or cheapest though.

Re: Why do Daily Wail Readers Hate Cyclists?

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 June 2015 - 5:11pm
Daily Heil Commenters tend to dislike people who are not Like Them. The Daily Heil appeals to a lower middle class demographic, targeting the type of people who have an inflated opinion of themselves and therefore need someone to blame - immigrants, the unemployed, the council, Health and Safety, Political Correctness, for the fact that they're not hugely successful and that people pull them up on being prejudiced, moderately racist, homophobic sexists. Cyclists are just another outgroup to dislike simply because they're not People Like Us to the Mail readership. They hate them for the same reason that they hate immigrants, brown people, "lefties", you name it.

Re: Breathable cycle jacket

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 June 2015 - 5:10pm
I had a dressmaker make me a yellow ventile jacket. Made to measure with no pockets. Full length zip, no lining. Best thing I've ever done re bikes.

Breathable cycle jacket

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 June 2015 - 5:05pm
Can anyone recommend a good jacket? Full zip front, windproof, showerproof with a little warmth -- but most of all, really breathable? I have a Gore Bike Wear Gortex one which is fine, but I'd like one in a slightly 'cosier' fabric. I've tried cheap ones which claim to be 'breathable' but aren't, (must sweat a lot I suppose) so get clammy inside. I'd be prepared to pay if I knew it was really going to work. Any ideas?

Re: another cyclist killed by a lorry in London

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 June 2015 - 5:00pm
toomsie wrote:I wonder if Boris bike are over represented regarding serious accidents. But in my experiance Boris bikes feel very safe so I assume that heavy ladies bike also do.
London cycle hire bikes were under represented in early road casualty figures, according to http://rdrf.org.uk/2012/08/disaster-wai ... part-four/ - and I'd expect them to have improved if anything, now that some of the early users have become experienced users.

Re: Map reading - can anyone do this now?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 June 2015 - 4:43pm
Everyone can get lost even those with high skillset in navigation. The real trick is what you do to relocate and solve the problem. When in the hills my first solution revolves around a time out. I seriously stop to have a drink, eat some food and just look around me. Then I get the map out again and compass perhaps even the GPS if I am carrying one. That break works to take your mind out of the pattern it had got into about where you are and you can go back to first principles with a fresh view on the situation. Plus the food/drink time gives you a rest so your mind stops panicking and you can actually think more rationally. Try it if you get lost in the wilds, it does work wonders. I learnt that myself through experience (that nearly resulted in an MRT call out). however I did read it later in an advice piece in a magazine by a MIC and some time MRT member.

I do agree a sat nav can make it all easier at times but it is all about tools right for the job. IMHO a map and a compass will always have a time and a place even if the format of them changes. Perhaps a flexible and thing screen one day with a built in compass may replace a paper (or now plastic) map and a separate baseplate compass.

I do think even the most committed GPS/sat navvers will admit to liking a well made map such as the OS series (even if it is on a computer screen).

Re: Map reading - can anyone do this now?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 June 2015 - 4:34pm
simonineaston wrote:The ideal for me would be some sort of combo of the electric and the paper - there was a foldable A3 e-ink jobbie knocking around a few years ago - imagine one of them in colour and waterproof... with all your maps on! Oh Bliss!!
http://news.softpedia.com/news/LG-Devel ... 2222.shtml

It never went to market. E-Paper is struggling as consumers increasingly bought tablets instead of e-readers.

Re: Map reading - can anyone do this now?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 June 2015 - 4:30pm
Haha . I got into a spot of trouble with a friend there in Jan, summit of Fan Brycheiniog, fine day, then went all white, we had a map and compass and managed to get down eventually after going in a few circles, but it was pretty hairy and made me see the value of a gps in those conditions.

Re: Map reading - can anyone do this now?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 June 2015 - 4:23pm
22camels wrote:I have quite happily hiked in the Brecon beacons with a 1:25 000 OS map and see little need for GPS there (except in a whiteout) - I have quite a good sense of direction I think.
You say that as if it were unusual and don't think I'm taking the pee 'cos I'm not, but us old ones, that's all we ever did and in a white-out... with various degrees of success in my case! One time, when on arduous training in said Beacons, I made a hash of crossing a couple of ridges in a white out and 2 of the platoon succumbed to hypo-thermia, so I was sent off to get help and suffered the double ignominy of 1) getting the platoon lost and 2) being unable to accurately describe their whereabouts to the helicopter pilot... Yes folks, reading maps is not my strongest suit. In my defence, I was just a school kid. I'm better at it now! Tend to stay off the Brecons, tho'...

Re: another cyclist killed by a lorry in London

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 June 2015 - 4:20pm
Mark1978 wrote:Flinders wrote:That seems sensible. But it doesn't explain the gender gap when it comes to these incidents.

Is there a gender gap? Are there available stats?
I wasn't putting it forward as a gender thing, just something of note.
IMO though there almost certainly is one although one that in theory would favour women. I'd suggest that women are less likely to become overconfident...

But then watching cyclists on the road the issue is rarely overconfidence and simply just having confidence. As I cycle past streams of stationary vehicles on the outside I often pass cyclists gingerly picking their way up the inside - that's got to be a confidence thing. Throw in gutter cycling and other such stuff and I'm sure it all adds up. (My missus doesn't like cycling out from the gutter, she thinks she's both vulnerable and 'in the way'.)

Re: Map reading - can anyone do this now?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 June 2015 - 4:13pm
The ideal for me would be some sort of combo of the electric and the paper - there was a foldable A3 e-ink jobbie knocking around a few years ago - imagine one of them in colour and waterproof... with all your maps on! Oh Bliss!!
http://news.softpedia.com/news/LG-Devel ... 2222.shtml

Re: Map reading - can anyone do this now?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 June 2015 - 4:03pm
I have quite happily hiked in the Brecon beacons with a 1:25 000 OS map and see little need for GPS there (except in a whiteout) - I have quite a good sense of direction I think.

I arrived in Bastia, Corsica in late April armed with a 1:180 000 paper map and two GPS apps on my phone and tablet. I needed to get out of the city and navigate the small, windy roads through the mountains into the centre of the island. I had been intending to stick mainly to the paper map. Ok I could have done that possibly but it would have taken half a day longer. It's not just about navigating in/out of a city, but also the mountain roads were very windy and full of switchbacks, and in those conditions my sense of direction goes out of the window even with a compass. Yes you can stop and ask locals and use road signs (I did both) but without GPS it would have taken me a lot longer. Which is no problem on an open ended cycle tour, but this was a short 7-day trip and I wanted to cover some ground. Maybe a higher scale map would have helped but I would have had to carry 2-3 of those, and that gets impractical. Plus the GPS were multifunctional i.e. they were my phone and tablet that I could use for other things, whereas a paper map only has a single function.

Re: another cyclist killed by a lorry in London

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 June 2015 - 3:58pm
Flinders wrote:That seems sensible. But it doesn't explain the gender gap when it comes to these incidents.

Is there a gender gap? Are there available stats?

Re: Map reading - can anyone do this now?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 June 2015 - 3:49pm
I don't have a cycle computer which can do navigation, so I use an OS map, 1:50000 scale, sure it may be on my smart phone and it may cheat a little by pinpointing my location, but it's still what I use for navigation.
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