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Re: Safer on a recumbent?

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 3:46pm
I don't think it would matter whether one was on a Recumbent or an upright.

It's about perception really, and while the driver may be looking directly at you and your image is on their retina, this is being filtered out by the brain as the brain is looking for a car-shaped object of a certain bulk and moving at a certain speed.

Falling for a Cyclist

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 2:26pm
This is possibly one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time.

https://youtu.be/2PFRdEUN240

Some colourful language involved.

Re: Safer on a recumbent?

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 2:17pm
Possibly the data is slewed in that 'recumbent'ers are more prone (if that's the right word?) to post on forums? I repeat - I see plenty of cyclists but I haven't passed or been passed by a 'bent for years. In many aspects of cycling I go against the mainstream, against the 'flow' - but in the debate of upright v. recumbent, I go with the mainstream. Sorry.

At least my opinion of recumbents is, perhaps, not quite as jaundiced as that of a certain delightful individual - a fellow exile from 'another place' - with whom I had a brief correspondence a few years ago. This is an extract from what he PM'd me:
.... and his ****head mates again going on about how in the wrong drivers were for failing to see his 2 foot high deck chair on wheels when he insists on using it in multi lane rush hour traffic...
I stress once again, this is the opinion of my correspondent, not of me.

Nevertheless, I'll stick with upright, thanks. The approved geometry for TdF is fine by me!

Re: Safer on a recumbent?

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 1:00pm
Blimey Si you're almost the first recumbent recidivist I've come across.

I still keep a small upright folder for shopping/busy urban stuff but as most of my riding is rural day rides, touring, or a long half urban/half rural commute I've given away all my other uprights and never missed them. I still remember what headwinds are like on an upright - couldn't go there again!

I agree with the others about Trikes too, if you really want visibility in traffic they're magic!

Re: Safer on a recumbent?

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 12:58pm
hatless wrote:Cunobelin wrote:because recumbents are low, sleek and moving, which reads as "predator" this spooking the horses

Sleek? Me on a recumbent, sleek?


I was referring to the machine


Riders s are diverse in size and shape

Re: Safer on a recumbent?

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 12:39pm
661-Pete wrote:I'd say, no. But you hardly ever see a 'bent around these parts - neither in town nor in the countryside. Not even in Brighton. So where do they congregate?

To my mind, they are simply something that the average motorist doesn't expect to encounter. Those who would respond, the same applies to conventional bikes, I'd say, not true, the majority of motorists are reasonable drivers and do see and behave responsibly about cyclists. So don't perplex them by placing yourself far closer to the ground than they are expecting!

And they're definitely a known hazard wherever there are horses around.

But maybe I'm prejudiced, seeing as I've never owned nor ridden a 'bent. They're far too expensive, for what you get....
They can be well priced...

And if you haven't ridden one on the street then I'd suggest reserving judgement. Their very unexpectedness is one of their strengths, they aren't dismissed as 'just a cyclist' by the subconscious, there is an active decision to be made.

Re: Camino de Santiago/Way of St James

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 1 August 2015 - 12:36pm
There is always www.bike-express.co.uk although never managed to find a space for the dates I wanted to go.
Might have to book a year in advance.
The camino de santiago forum has a bike section if you haven't already tried that.
I think there are people in Santiago who box up bikes for shipping back and lots of advice on traveling to and from.

buen camino

Re: Help settle an argument

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 12:25pm
kwackers wrote:Thinking about it, this is the reason I dislike the traditional 'tahring' type cycle bell. It smacks a lot of "out of my way" as opposed to the single 'ting' of its replacement that says politely 'excuse me'.
Funnily enough I had the exact opposite interpretation In particular, the once much-encouraged two tings sound to my ears more of a demand.

Proof perhaps of what we already knew from the other current thread on bells: that there is no consensus on whether to use a bell, nor what type of bell to use and it will not be to everyone's liking whatever noise you make. I guess it comes down to personal preference.

Re: Boris' backie

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 11:52am
Heltor Chasca wrote:............I'm no politician or conservative supporter but I've always liked Boris. He knows how to have fun and I guess so does his wife! Good on him for being so restrained with all those interfering, controlling numpties................

For what it's worth, I think that's about where I stand on the matter...................

Re: Help settle an argument

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 11:36am
Bicycler wrote:For the umpteenth time on this thread I'll repeat that the horn is not a device for instructing others how to behave. It is solely a defensive device to warn others of your presence.
I think most commuting cyclists realise that it really means "out of my way Mr Cyclist, I'm coming through", or "I'm displeased with you and am showing my displeasure".
Letting someone know you're there is a single 'pip' and you never hear that anymore...

Thinking about it, this is the reason I dislike the traditional 'tahring' type cycle bell. It smacks a lot of "out of my way" as opposed to the single 'ting' of its replacement that says politely 'excuse me'.

Re: Safer on a recumbent?

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 11:28am
For me it depends on where you are riding - country side, quiet-moderate town then the 'bent gets you more attention and more room. Busy town traffic/rush hour I feel that they have disadvantages as filtering is more difficult and you get hidden behind stuff.

Horses - I've never had an issue, I stop for oncoming ones, or talk loudly as I over take whilst giving them loads of room.

As for cost - well, mine cost around £250 second hand and was the equivalent of my touring bike......middling speed but comfortable, able to tote reasonable loads.

Alas I gave it up mainly for medical reasons*, but also slightly the annoyance of having eejits shouting stuff all the time (which is a testimony to how well noticed it was), and slightly because I didn't have anywhere to keep it.

*ironic as that's why I bought it in the first place!

Re: Safer on a recumbent?

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 11:24am
Cunobelin wrote:because recumbents are low, sleek and moving, which reads as "predator" this spooking the horses

Sleek? Me on a recumbent, sleek?

Re: Help settle an argument

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 10:32am
For the umpteenth time on this thread I'll repeat that the horn is not a device for instructing others how to behave. It is solely a defensive device to warn others of your presence.

Re: Boris' backie

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 10:29am
iviehoff wrote:There is at least one case on what it means for a bicycle to be "adapted" for carrying passengers. A few years ago someone was prosecuted for carrying a child on a saddle they had stuck onto the top tube with sticky tape. ...

Anyone wishing to re-examine this will find the related thread here.

Re: Safer on a recumbent?

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 10:11am
I spooked two horses yesterday came round a fast right hander I was doing 25mph + didn't see them until the last moment, I braked hard but it was too late both horses reared up, all I could do was the say sorry, but one of the riders said it was my flag, flashing front light and I shouldn't be on the road, I just left, what else could I do.

What a coincidence in the CTC magazine Aug/Sept there is a bit on horse sence page 61

Re: Scotland in 2 weeks

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 1 August 2015 - 10:06am
LollyKat wrote:I'm sorry the sun didn't shine more for you but you have some wonderfully atmospheric photos. Hope you'll come back again one day.
I definitely will! Actually I thought the weather was quite good! I had some days without rain, which I didn't expect, it never rained for the whole day (though often it did rain for the whole night). Plus I hate cycling when it's hot, so the temperature (usually below 15 degrees) was perfect. I only used my jacket when it was raining (or not even then).

Jimstar79 wrote:Your tent near the beach in Durness really looks ideal - was it too cold for a quick swim?!
It was, because the moment I took the picture, the sun disappeared behind the clouds... So I actually never used my swimsuit I also never used a much heavier windstopper, but in Iceland I learned it's better to have too many warm clothes than too little

Re: Scotland in 2 weeks

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 1 August 2015 - 10:02am
robing wrote:Therealsouthstander wrote:In my opinion The Outer Hebrides off Scotland's West coast is among the best cycling you'll find anywhere...

Get the Ferry from Oban to the Isle of Barra , cycle around the island then get another ferry to Eriskay,then cycle South Uist,Benbecula,North Uist then the magical Bernaray.. Ferry from Bernaray to the best bit ,the Isle of Harris and Isle of Lewis.. Then ferry from Stornoway to Ullapool.. All ferries will cost about £30 in total and these islands are a cyclists dream,really quiet roads with a great surface - Did you mention nature ? You'll be in heaven


Do not miss The Outer Hebrides..

I'm going to do this next month. But I will get the ferry from Harris to Uig, cycle across Skye, ferry to Mallaig, cycle across Ardnamurchan and then via Mull back to Oban.


Your route is perfect ,once You pass Harris and go into Lewis it's not as good,so heading over to Skye ,Mallaig !Ardanmurchan and Mull your going to constantly be in superb cycling areas..

Not sure if it fits in but there's a really good bunkhouse on Mull beside the ferry back to Oban...

Hopefully the weather is good for you. It's been really cold and wet this summer...

Re: Where to stay with bikes in Rutland?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 1 August 2015 - 9:51am
If you don't want to pay a fortune what about South Witham Travelodge on the A1. https://www.travelodge.co.uk/hotels/129 ... tham-hotel It's under 10 miles from the Whitwell car park. Every travelodge I've stayed in let you keep bikes in your room. Less than a mile from South WItham village which has a couple of pubs for evening meals. One of them, the Blue Cow, brews it's own beer on site. If you'd like something a bit better than basic pub food the Jackson Stops "gastro pub" at Stretton about 2 miles away is well thought of by the pretentious though personally I'd recommend the Tollemache Arms at Buckminster 6 miles away - high quality food, decent beer, good service , pleasant surroundings and no fancy prices....http://www.tollemache-arms.co.uk/

For breakfast in the morning the diner at Colsterworth(take the A151 towards Bourne from the A1 it's about 1/4 mile on the left just after the little roundabout) serves the locally famous Beltbuster breakfast for about a fiver.

If you fancied spending a couple of days in the area this wouldn't be a bad day ride. On the route is Woolsthorpe Manor the home of SIr Isaac Newton which is worth a visit as is the much more grandiose Belvoir Castle. http://ridewithgps.com/routes/9576126

Re: Scotland in 2 weeks

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 1 August 2015 - 9:50am
Therealsouthstander wrote:In my opinion The Outer Hebrides off Scotland's West coast is among the best cycling you'll find anywhere...

Get the Ferry from Oban to the Isle of Barra , cycle around the island then get another ferry to Eriskay,then cycle South Uist,Benbecula,North Uist then the magical Bernaray.. Ferry from Bernaray to the best bit ,the Isle of Harris and Isle of Lewis.. Then ferry from Stornoway to Ullapool.. All ferries will cost about £30 in total and these islands are a cyclists dream,really quiet roads with a great surface - Did you mention nature ? You'll be in heaven


Do not miss The Outer Hebrides..

I'm going to do this next month. But I will get the ferry from Harris to Uig, cycle across Skye, ferry to Mallaig, cycle across Ardnamurchan and then via Mull back to Oban.

Re: Safer on a recumbent?

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 9:43am
661-Pete wrote:I'd say, no. But you hardly ever see a 'bent around these parts - neither in town nor in the countryside. Not even in Brighton. So where do they congregate?

To my mind, they are simply something that the average motorist doesn't expect to encounter. Those who would respond, the same applies to conventional bikes, I'd say, not true, the majority of motorists are reasonable drivers and do see and behave responsibly about cyclists. So don't perplex them by placing yourself far closer to the ground than they are expecting!

And they're definitely a known hazard wherever there are horses around.

But maybe I'm prejudiced, seeing as I've never owned nor ridden a 'bent. They're far too expensive, for what you get....

That is the problem.... it is those who have no experience that assume that they are dangerous

Horses are definitely an issue though... mainly because recumbents are low, sleek and moving, which reads as "predator" this spooking the hores
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