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Re: tablet for touring

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 20 September 2014 - 10:31am
I have used either the Ipad or the IPad Mini for touring.

I use it for a series of tasks:

Photos - direct transfer via Wifi
Notes and Emails
Navigation and route planning

Re: tablet for touring

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 20 September 2014 - 10:28am
al_yrpal wrote:I quite like using the Kindle on my phone. Its quite useable, but, I don't suppose its available on an iphone?


Kindle is supported across the IOS spectrum

Re: Why do we do it?

CTC Forum - On the road - 20 September 2014 - 10:26am
[XAP]Bob wrote:Note I'm not advocating RLJ or other law breaking, but to let that become the debate is silly - the debate is why we let motorists kill thousands each year, not why a minority of cyclists do the same as a majority of motorists (RLJ)
Majority of motorists RLJ?

Utter rubbish.

Re: tablet for touring

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 20 September 2014 - 10:16am
On the tablet (not phone) front, the Hudl2 should be due soon.

(The first one was discussed as some length - and with a surprising grumpiness at times for a discussion about electronics - around about last Christmas).

The new one is rumoured to be be bigger more upmarket though.

I hope it isn't too much bigger - I rather liked its small tough-as-a-brick look for touring and was mainly looking forward to it sorting various glitches/the weak GPS etc.

Re: tablet for touring

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 20 September 2014 - 9:55am
I thought you meant the Moto 4g:http://www.trustedreviews.com/motorola-moto-g_Mobile-Phone_review
I didn't know they'd brought out another new one. It does seem odd that they've dropped 4g on the new one.

The s5 mini is £350 - it's the s5 that is £580. The mini keeps a lot of the features of the s5 eg fingerprint recognition, nfc, heart monitor. And in one respect it's better than the s5. It is water and dust resistant ip67 rated without the need for covers for the usb port.

The new Motorola phones are extremely good value for money. I upgraded my contract for the s5 mini and am paying an extra 290 over 2 years with no up front cost. My only gripe at the moment is I don't actually seem to get 4g anywhere yet, though hopefully this situation will improve!

Re: tablet for touring

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 20 September 2014 - 9:54am
I quite like using the Kindle on my phone. Its quite useable, but, I don't suppose its available on an iphone?


Re: Short Survey - Do you use service stations?

CTC Forum - On the road - 20 September 2014 - 9:49am
Use them all the time, the best ones are those that have a mini supermarket attached, great for water, sandwiches, etc. no problem parking the bike.

Re: tablet for touring

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 20 September 2014 - 9:38am
This year we took two iPhones, my iPad Air, a kindle fire and a power monkey to help charge stuff. For a lightish tablet the iPad Air and case took up a fair amount of space and wasn't light, particularly with the rest of the electronics out included. I would definitely do it differently next time, even with the kids.

If I was travelling without the kids I'd take an ordinary kindle ( less weight than books and long battery life) just for reading and the iPhone for internet access and get a hub charger.

Re: Short Survey - Do you use service stations?

CTC Forum - On the road - 20 September 2014 - 9:37am
rjb wrote:I've used motorway service stations in the past. You have to find the back entrance obviously but they can be great for an all night breakfast. The club would use them on an all night ride
That reminds me of the times when the club used the services at Corley on a regular basis as passed the back entrance on many of our routes... Bet the sight of 6-10 bikes locked up outside turned a few heads. I know Ferrybridge used to be used on 'Bernie's Long Flat One' 600l audax and a very welcome sight those cooling towers were and oh how long they seemed to take to get closer .......

Re: Short Survey - Do you use service stations?

CTC Forum - On the road - 20 September 2014 - 8:55am
I wish I could run my chainsaw, my lawnmower, my hedge timmer, and my strimmer on veg oil from Costco!

It annoys me greatly that I have to buy petrol and pay the fuel duty on it to pay for roads. I get through about 20ltrs a year, not much in the great scheme of things but £25 a year to just maintain our garden and land is a bit much.

Re: Short Survey - Do you use service stations?

CTC Forum - On the road - 20 September 2014 - 8:49am
Lance Dopestrong wrote:I don't even use them for fuel. I buy my vegetable oil in 20 litre drums from Costco.
And declare it for tax purposes of course...

Re: Wrong way up a one way street.

CTC Forum - On the road - 20 September 2014 - 12:11am
There's a narrow, parked car clogged street near me which is not one way but has a no entry sign at one end. At the no entry end it has a special little bike lane to bypass the no entry sign.

I've lost count of the number of irate motorists who've told me its a one way street as I block their way as I go the 'wrong' way and wait for them to back up to get off my side of the road.

Especially amusing are the ones who tell me to read the Highway Code.

Re: Inverness to Kilmarnock 5 day tour

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 September 2014 - 11:59pm
Job done, 350 miles in 5 days and no rain

Left home on Sunday evening for the 9pm sleeper to inverness which arrived in on time at 8-30 to a chilly but dry Inverness. Took the northerly route to Skye via dingwall and the Cullins(?). Very picturesque country and flat easy riding. Stopped in Strathcarron for a late lunch and. Kyle of. Lochalsh for coffee before arriving at broadfoot YHS after 90 miles. YHS was pretty basic but a good breakfast made up for it.

Second day was a loop to Portree over to the south and back to portree and the Craignure ferry. Quite a hard day and 80 miles chasing a ferry timetable. Scenery on Skye was impressive with big mountains and bleak moors, very beautiful. Over to Mallaig and a very nice B&B to end the day on.

Third day was going to be 80 miles to Oban via FortBill until (over breakfast) i realised i could go down via glenuig, hop on a ferry to Mull (lochaline to fishnish) and then hop back on another ferry from Mull to Oban, only problem was it was 9-30 and the ferry was at 3 and 67 miles away! I decided to go for it and pushed hard through fabulous scenery and two mega passes to climb, what a day! 72 miles. As luck would have it the Oban ferry on Mull was delayed but had a good chat with anither cyclist at the ferry terminal, made it to Oban and a so so B&b by 7pm - very tired

Fourth day was straightforward, oban to lochgilphead, tarbert and the lochranza ferry (60 miles and just one major climb). Lochranza hasnt changed much in 27 years, good b&b and a good meal at the hotel.

Up early today and over lochranza hill to brodick for the ferry to Ardrossan. Rather than head straight to my mums in Kilmarnock i decided to finish with the fairle dalry moor road, another challenging climb, arrived late after 50 miles!

Typing this on the glasgow sleeper back to london

Bike performed perfectly, triple and 30/29 was essential and saddlebag worked well with a couple of dry bags strapped to rack. Baggage weighed in at 6 kilos and i suspect i could pare this down further for next time. I was lucky it didn't rain and weather was very good. I would probably only take one pair of shoes and more cycling jerseys but all in all think i got it just about right.

And i should have brought a map, the garmin and iphone combo worked well but sometimes you cant beat a good old fashioned map!

Re: Short Survey - Do you use service stations?

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 September 2014 - 11:29pm
A sign of the times.

Many rural pubs have gone, or have limited hours

Equally so have many village shops.

Garages and "service stations" however remain.

When touring they often provide the opportunity to stock up that is otherwise denied

Re: Whats wrong with Portugal?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 September 2014 - 11:17pm
I've corrected my post above - it was indeed to Lousa and not to Coimbra that we drove from Castanheira - don't know what I was thinking of, but I'll plead that after a week I was still working out the geography. I still do know the difference though...

It is indeed a great road. I've actually developed a certain vertigo when driving in mountains, which is embarrassing for a cyclist. Comes of living too long in the flat lands, I think. This was high enough to set me off, without being dangerous or challenging as a drive. I did try not to stare down into the valleys! There are barriers where there might be risks, but it's no Alpine pass. Fortunately it doesn't affect my driving, so much as give me cold sweats the night after - very odd. Still wouldn't have missed the route though. You'd see more as a cyclist since, driving, you really should have eyes only for the road, of course. It's quite forested, which limits views somewhat, but there are breaks at points near the top.

I was intrigued by the way that the road follows (while climbing/descending steadily of course) the contours around shoulders and valleys, winding its way up/down without really needing switchbacks.

Re: Off The bike for a while

CTC Forum - On the road - 19 September 2014 - 10:43pm
Well done.
Some say I got a chip on my shoulder..............I have the right one

Re: Whats wrong with Portugal?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 September 2014 - 10:26pm
Glad you had a good time. The A13 is a very new road - an extension towards Coimbra was only finished earlier this year and in any case no part of it seems to appear on any maps I've seen nor on my GPS maps.

The climb up from Castanheira over towards Lousa (and the descent) is particularly lovely and fairly gentle, if you're ever over again.

The roads are hilariously empty, so much so that it is quite usual to wave and be waved at by any vehicle you encounter. The only problem is that when I was last cycling in the UK I'd forgotten that we don't do that....

Re: Whats wrong with Portugal?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 September 2014 - 9:39pm
drossall wrote:We're staying for a week near Coimbra next month. I get a day's pass (and a hired MTB of unknown quality) to go off for a day's riding
Just to give my experiences for the record. From what I saw, there's some brilliant touring to be had on quiet roads.

It's pretty much a case of a flattish western coast, with mountains inland. Coimbra is on the edge of the mountains. We were actually a bit south, just off the N17-1 near Espinhal.

The roads in that area are very quiet. Driving, we met something coming the other way from time to time, and something going in our direction almost never. The cycling I did was really quiet too.

This is probably helped by the network of motorways/dual carriageways that have been built recently, and take all the long-distance traffic. Even the nearest of those (A13), however, was very quiet - in early September, we saw another car or two every minute. You need to go onto the A1 Porto-Lisbon road to get levels of traffic that we'd recognise (and of course cyclists wouldn't be on either of these roads). The A13 spends its entire distance in cuttings or on massive viaducts, which gives you some idea of the significant hills in the area.

Going back to cycling, my hired bike turned out to be a ladies' MTBSO. For all sorts of reasons, including the limitations of the bike, I kept my ride to a few miles. I rode first up into the real hills to the east. The N347 to Castanheira de Peira is a really good climb, with an incredibly steady gradient, that goes on for miles to rise to nearly 800m, before (obviously) descending similarly into Castanheira. I only rode part way, not getting above about 450m before turning round and heading for some of the lanes between Espinhal and Penela.

These were again good riding, although I did fail to find my way in one place. I had the Portuguese military maps, ordered from Stanfords. They are close to OS quality, but up to 20 years old, and so show none of the new motorways above. This wouldn't matter, but local lanes have been diverted where they crossed the paths of new roads. Also, what are marked as dry-weather roads can become forest tracks. Hence, I found myself heading off-road with an uncertain map, and turned back instead.

I also had a GPS with open-source mapping, but it wasn't detailed enough. Not sure whether that was my mistake, but it didn't show the dry-weather roads where I got disoriented. Other minor roads were fine (and very quiet again), and I completed my loop happily on an alternative route. Later, we drove the entire route over the mountains to Castanheira, and then turned north over another set of mountains, topped by a row of wind turbines, to Lousa.

This would be a fine area for touring, with little traffic. I can't speak for the rest of Portugal. Lisbon and Porto had parts well worth visiting, but are busy like cities everywhere. Except where recent roads have changed things, good maps for cycling are available. Road numbering is a bit confusing because there are several systems co-existing. Pedal Portugal was helpful on this.

Hope this helps.

Re: Show your touring bikes !!!!

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 September 2014 - 9:28pm
Meet Peru (Van Nicholas Pioneer)

Hasn't been to Peru... yet, but did 4000 km round Europe last year and will soon be off to New Zealand

Re: tablet for touring

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 19 September 2014 - 9:27pm
robing wrote:al_yrpal wrote:Buy a Moto G 2nd generation smartphone. Does everthing a tablet does on a 5 inch screen. Only £155. Who needs a tablet?


I think it's actually 4.5". I've just got the S5 mini which is same size as Moto G, better spec.

The second generation Moto G was released this week. It has a 5 inch screen and will soon be upgraded to Android L Googles latest operating system because Google presently owns Motorola. It costs £155 whereas the Samsung S5 Mini costs £579 with a smaller screen. I run my smartphone on 3s 321 PAYG tarrif which is really cheap for European US and Oz touring calls with a £10 add on. Thus I am not paying out an excruciating £25 + for a phone contract that i wont use fully for two years. Here's a review with several mentions of the S5 mini http://www.trustedreviews.com/moto-g-2- ... nes_review

I have a Nexus 7 second generation too, its a great tablet. For touring I personally prefer my Android phone, its smaller and lighter and does everything the tablet does and I recharge it with a Teknet battery many times when I'm camping. It depends if you have good eyesight and can cope with the phones smaller screen.

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