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Alarming ride in downpour today – braking advice

CTC Forum - On the road - 29 July 2014 - 7:49pm
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I saw no mention of excessive speed for the conditions. Only that the rear wheel locked up unexpectedly and any one of a number of possible reasons given for it may be at fault and hopefully remedied.

Re: Round Ireland tour

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 29 July 2014 - 7:07pm
Nice one! I've never taken my bike to Ireland but we've had some great family holidays there. I'd like to do a similar tour one day.

Re: SNCF RER trains, has anyone ever been kicked off?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 29 July 2014 - 7:01pm
andymiller wrote:You're right - there is a TER-TER-TER option. Sorry if I was alarmist but I knew that a lot of the trains out of Roscoff aren't actually trains.

I've always found SNCF train people very reasonable, and I think it's unlikely you'd be thrown off a train simply because there were too many people with bikes - I suspect they would do what British train people would do and make the best of it. I'm sure the SNCF train people don't like having to deal with unhappy customers any more than anyone else.

But assuming the worst, and taking one step at a time...

There are plenty or TER trains between Rennes and Redon so if the worst happens and you can't get on one, there should be another along soon after.

The most critical link seems to be between Morlaix and Rennes because most of the trains are TGVs. Your idea of splitting up and seeing if you can get two sets of two tickets on TGV services would be worth a try. Rail Europe have a call centre - you can just ring them: 0844 848 5848. OK it's an 0844 number but I don't think it's that expensive - and it's open until 7pm on weekday evenings.

As far as Roscoff to Morlaix is concerned, I'd also be tempted just ride it (there's a decent Voie Verte along the country lanes - definitely stay off the main road), rather than wait for the train, which might be a problem if there are a load of other cycle tourists arriving at Roscoff with the idea of catching a train onward.

Thanks Andy, I thought I'd update this for other people as I discovered an interesting trick at Piccadilly SNCF today ( it's maybe 15 mins walk or 5mins on the bus for me when I'm in London so less hassle than waiting on the phones). There weren't 4 spaces on any of the TGVs but we got 2spaces on the 14:20 one and the kids bikes will be bagged for that section ( and I will stick our panniers together so that we have only two items of luggage each). That's the difficult bit so the rest should be fine.

The interesting trick though was not try to book a through train, booking the TGV leg separately was the only way to find the spaces. Thought people might like to know that. And thank you to the patient French lady who managed my booking!

I'll mull over the voies verte, trying to keep it as simple as possible for the sprogs especially my 8 Year old who struggles with change and unexpected stuff ie I don't want to scare him off, that why I'm heading for the canal section to start from.

Re: Burgundy, Holland or Germany?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 29 July 2014 - 6:39pm
For me it comes down to a very simple choice:

Burgundy: Great food & wine
Germany: Great cycle routes
Holland: Great for avoiding hills.

Shrewsbury to London cycle...any advice please?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 29 July 2014 - 6:37pm
Hi all


I'm planning a trip shortly from Shrewsbury to London.
I am hoping that someone will able to give advice on my route, and also any places of interest on the way.


DAY 1.SHREWSBURY TO STOW-ON-THE WOLD

Shrewsbury to Bridgnorth (via A458)
Bridgnorth to Worcester (via B4363 to Bewdley, then A4443)
Worcester to Evesham (via B4084)
Evesham to Stow on the Wold (via B4077)

DAY 2..STOW-ON-THE-WOLD TO WEST LONDON (HOUNSLOW)

Mixture of back roads and B roads to Oxford.
Oxford to Henley on Thames (via B480)
Henley on Thames to Windsor (via A321 & B3024)
Then A30 To Hounslow



If anyone could give advice on this route, Id be very grateful!


Thanks

Bob

Re: Ribble Winter Audax bike

CTC Forum - On the road - 29 July 2014 - 6:01pm
Alastair, have a look at the Dolan Preffisio which does take 25c tyres and full mudguards, I use SKS guards with Conti GP 4 Seasons, and it takes standard drop brakes. Clearance is a bit tight though so you get the occasional scraping sound, will be better with 23cs I suppose.

Re: Alarming ride in downpour today – braking advice

CTC Forum - On the road - 29 July 2014 - 6:00pm
Let's not be too harsh. Slow Loris has already commented on the actual speed involved. Any of us can be concerned about braking, at any speed.

Re: Burgundy, Holland or Germany?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 29 July 2014 - 5:52pm
Thanks, Galloper and Foxyrider. So two votes for Germany. Also been looking at other German tours mentioned in recent thread. Must admit I'm very tempted but still nervous about trusting my bike un-packed to Lufthansa , or rather the baggage handlers at Brum and Frankfurt. I know flying with bikes has been discussed many times but was wondering if either of you (or anyone) has experience of checking in an un-packed bike with Lufthansa or, more importantly, collecting it at the other end?

Anyone with experience of the Burgundy tour?

Round Ireland tour

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 29 July 2014 - 5:42pm
I'm back from my round Ireland tour. It was 3 weeks altogether including getting to and from home, with 17 days of cycling. I started in Rosslare and finished Belfast. I went clockwise around the coast - going along the south to Mizen Head. Then up the west coast to Donegal and Malin Head, then finally round the Northern Ireland coast to Belfast. I did a mixture of camping and B and Bs. All in all it was a great trip, weather wasn't too bad, only had a couple of really wet days.

The highlights were the southwest and Mizen Head, also county Clare was wonderful. Went off the beaten track and explored the Burren and saw the Father Ted house and filming locations. BnBs were generally good with a couple of exceptions and were ubiquitous. Campsites were of a high standard but rather few and far between compared with the UK. Irish drivers I found to be more careful and less aggressive than in the UK. Roads varied from excellent with good shoulders to cycle on to narrow and potholed.

I was going to go to Scotland and the Hebrides afterwards but ran out of time. I'll do that as a separate tour later. It would have been a bit of a rush and a word of warning to anyone considering using the Kintyre Express ferry from Ballycastle to Campbeltown. It's very unreliable - needs minimum of 4 to travel, max of 12, and sometimes gets booked out for private charter meaning no sailings. I did a tour of Spain in May as well. Definitely got the cycle touring bug!

Re: Ring, ring?

CTC Forum - On the road - 29 July 2014 - 5:38pm


TMI!

Re: Alarming ride in downpour today – braking advice

CTC Forum - On the road - 29 July 2014 - 5:30pm
From your description not only of the conditions weather wise but also there being several zebra crossings and your concern (enough to warrant a discussion on a forum) about not being able to stop in time should someone/thing cross your path then you WERE going too quick for the conditions.
You have asked about how to brake better which in itself is fine but it is your mindset (& of others) about keeping up with traffic, this is a pitfall that some cyclists seem to be falling into.

SAFETY has to come above everything else and your braking in the wet is diminished and much less of that of a car, so if that car in front has to do an emergency stop in the high street because some kid has pulled away from his parents a cyclist massively increases the chance of smashing right into the back of it or having to take avoiding action (thus potentially causing another incident) all because they felt the need to 'keep up with traffic'.

cyclists that insist on keeping up with 'traffic' or indeed exceed their speed (invariably motorvehicles) absolutely have know how much stopping distance they need from the speed you are doing in any given conditions, that includes not only the weather but surroundings/hazards.
At 20mph in the wet on a downhill you might be able to stop in 3-4 seconds..IF you have decent working brakes, IF your reactions are good and you're not distracted, IF the road surface isn't broken up/has iron works in your path. 20mph is 9 metres per second, thinking time alone is around 6 metres, you're looking at close to 30metres total stopping distance (incl thinking time) from the first peerception of having to stop for a hazard, maybe even more than 30m.

Stay safe

Re: Ring, ring?

CTC Forum - On the road - 29 July 2014 - 4:32pm
LollyKat wrote:[XAP]Bob wrote:And a whistle can be easily worn round the neck until entering a "risk" zone.
And keeping it looped around your neck helps you retrieve it when you swallow it after hitting a pothole...

Although without a loop it'll easily come out the other end while the tailgaiting bus bears down on you

Re: Ring, ring?

CTC Forum - On the road - 29 July 2014 - 4:19pm
I actually used to have mine clipped to the button holes on my shirt - but the issue is that it's only there when you are expecting an issue. For a cycle courier in NYC that's OK, just bolt it to your teeth...

Re: Ribble Winter Audax bike

CTC Forum - On the road - 29 July 2014 - 3:55pm
AlastairS wrote:The ribble Audax also has aenough clearance for 25mm tyres and guards.If that's the winter audax , I'm pretty sure Ribble said to me in email that it will only take up to 23mm tyres with guards ?

The Ribble aluminium winter/audax will take 25s with very careful mudguard adjustment. I can understand a retailer saying it won't because the setup is fiddly.

The Ribble 365 gets excellent reviews and looks a good buy with Veloce groupset at just over a thousand or £1188 with Athena if you want 11 speed.

Re: SNCF RER trains, has anyone ever been kicked off?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 29 July 2014 - 3:40pm
You're right - there is a TER-TER-TER option. Sorry if I was alarmist but I knew that a lot of the trains out of Roscoff aren't actually trains.

I've always found SNCF train people very reasonable, and I think it's unlikely you'd be thrown off a train simply because there were too many people with bikes - I suspect they would do what British train people would do and make the best of it. I'm sure the SNCF train people don't like having to deal with unhappy customers any more than anyone else.

But assuming the worst, and taking one step at a time...

There are plenty or TER trains between Rennes and Redon so if the worst happens and you can't get on one, there should be another along soon after.

The most critical link seems to be between Morlaix and Rennes because most of the trains are TGVs. Your idea of splitting up and seeing if you can get two sets of two tickets on TGV services would be worth a try. Rail Europe have a call centre - you can just ring them: 0844 848 5848. OK it's an 0844 number but I don't think it's that expensive - and it's open until 7pm on weekday evenings.

As far as Roscoff to Morlaix is concerned, I'd also be tempted just ride it (there's a decent Voie Verte along the country lanes - definitely stay off the main road), rather than wait for the train, which might be a problem if there are a load of other cycle tourists arriving at Roscoff with the idea of catching a train onward.

Re: Ring, ring?

CTC Forum - On the road - 29 July 2014 - 3:23pm
[XAP]Bob wrote:And a whistle can be easily worn round the neck until entering a "risk" zone.
And keeping it looped around your neck helps you retrieve it when you swallow it after hitting a pothole...

Re: Anyone done the Trans Am - West to East?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 29 July 2014 - 3:13pm
Yep, I cycled west to east Florence Oregon to Yorktown Virginia in 2002. Happy to answer any questions. Wind good, never far from civilisation! I didn't bother with taking a cooking stove. 50% camped / cheap hostels etc. rate the trip probably the best all round cycling experience I've had ( I've been on many rides in different parts of the world).

Re: Ten Miles a Day

CTC Forum - On the road - 29 July 2014 - 2:45pm
This is me making a bit of fun. Sorry.

Living where I do, hills are a fact of life. Living in a steep-sided valley doesn't help at all, but even when I climb out of it, the ups and downs never stop. My average speeds suffer of course, and I rarely get above 13mph average on a ride, despite 40mph+ descents being commonplace ....................... just like sub 5mph climbs.

Re: Ten Miles a Day

CTC Forum - On the road - 29 July 2014 - 2:38pm
Mick F wrote:... and climbed 261,000ft of climbing.
Today is Day 210 of the year, so I've climbed 1,243ft per day.



Just calculated my ft/day of climbing. It's much, much less than that............

Re: Dog walkers or horseriders?

CTC Forum - MTB - 29 July 2014 - 2:26pm
Mountain bike is a marketing term. There's nothing that makes it unsuitable for use elsewhere. I preferred the old term ATB All Terrain Bicycle. They can be very versatile bikes and I bet most never see action in the mountains
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