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Re: Norway from the South to Trondheim

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 24 July 2014 - 11:41am
pal wrote:For large-scale route planning in Norway, by the way (and armchair travelling!), I use the 'Sykkelruter i Norge' map( http://www.nomaden.no/main/index.php?option=com_phpshop&page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=7795): it's a little bit out of date now (esp. on the ferry routes it shows), but it gives a sense of which routes are feasible (and shows the banned tunnels), so it can be a good way to sketch out a general route before getting down to details.
Thanks for that link. I already have a much used copy of that map but have been unable to find it in a nettbutikk in the last couple of years. It used to be for sale on the SLF website but then they 'improved' their website...

Re: Norway from the South to Trondheim

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 24 July 2014 - 11:08am
s_b wrote:Trying to plan a route from one of the ferry ports on the South coast of Norway (ferry from Denmark) to Trondheim without going round the coast or using the E6. But every route I try seems to end up on the coast or on the E6 or in a banned tunnel. Does anyone know a way through? Touring bikes so nothing too extreme off road.
To complicate things, I'd really like to call in at Rjukan if possible, though it's looking like I'll have to give up on that.

There is at least one way I know of that puts you on the E6 for only a day. It does involve a day of mostly gravel track between Vågåmo and Lesja. The E6 section is between Dombås and Oppdal.

This route starts in Kristiansand, following the Setesdal route up to Haukeli, then Rauland and Rjukan. I have cycled this bit a few years back so am fairly sure it is free of tunnel surprises. From Rjukan you can cut up to Geilo* (Rjukan-Dagali is the only bit I haven't cycled on this route). From Geilo you can take the busy Rv 7 to Gol, (or the gravel cycle route 4 on the other side of the valley. Be warned it is hard work but do-able with 38/42mm wide tyres.) up over Golsfjellet to Fagernes, Beitostølen, then Vågåmo-Lesja on gravel. From Dombås there is no real choice but to take the E6 to Oppdal. We did that section in really bad weather in a day.

Thereafter you can avoid the E6 all the way to Trondheim by taking the valley via Meldal up to Orkanger. After Orkanger you end up taking the old main road to Trondheim. This road is generally quiet and gives you some lovely views of the fjord.

I'd like to point out that this route involves a series of big climbs, although in my opinion well worth doing. However, even though the coastal route is longer you might well find out that it takes less time to go round the outside.

Another alternative is to take the NSCR to Moss, then pick up cycle route 9 that runs up the east of Norway via Elverum, Akrestrømmen, Rorøs, Selbu to Trondheim. I did this in 2008 the other way round. The scenery round lake Femund is quite spectacular, rivalling the fjords IMHO. There are some home made maps of route 9 on my website.

Banned tunnels try the Norwegian Tunnel map on the cycletourer.co.uk website. If you want to check the scenery then kart.finn.no has some excellent satellite imagery.

*this does cut out a truly lovely valley between Uvdal Stave church and Dagali. Gravel track but in excellent condition when we went down it a few weeks ago.

Re: Sri Lanka Commonwealth Cyclists On M74

CTC Forum - On the road - 24 July 2014 - 11:01am
I have a 1970s(?) Highway Code somewhere, I must dig it out.

Re: Right Hand Turns

CTC Forum - On the road - 24 July 2014 - 10:55am
hamster wrote:Natioanl Express have video monitoring in their coaches...worth contacting them I think!

Most bus companies do these days. Partly for just this sort of thing.

I got a close pass from a bus in Gateshead they reviewed the footage and decided the pass was fine...

Re: Looking for inspiration/ideas for a tour in Germany.

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 24 July 2014 - 10:49am
I have to second the Danube route. It's absolutely superb.

Re: Right Hand Turns

CTC Forum - On the road - 24 July 2014 - 10:43am
Natioanl Express have video monitoring in their coaches...worth contacting them I think!

Re: Asshat In A Car

CTC Forum - On the road - 24 July 2014 - 10:34am
Graham wrote:This type of incident is not at all unusual and is a consequence of the quality of most cycle-specific facilities.
( How many times have you found a cycle facility that you actually prefer to cycle on ?? )

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Aye, there's the rub. Chesterfield council recently, at great expense (as we were reminded constantly on the letters page of the Derbyshire Times) put in a cycle path from the A619/A61 roundabout (aka the Tescos Roundabout) to join up with a back road as a route to the next roundabout (aka the J E James roundabout). Feel free to find it on a map.

If I used it, coming from the east, by the time I'd negotiated five underpasses and three (possibly four) toucan crossings, I can use the main road and be half way to Dronfield. Which I do, despite the 70mph speed limit on the main road. It's a dual carriageway; most people use the other lane to overtake, it really doesn't actually feel that dangerous. But there you have it; the cycle alternative is so crap I prefer to mix it with the pseudo-motorway.

Problem is, as no-one uses the cycle farcility, it'll be fuel to the "don't spend money on cyclists" fire.

Re: Asshat In A Car

CTC Forum - On the road - 24 July 2014 - 10:29am
drossall wrote:If I understand it correctly, it was a complete picture. Cycle paths were meant to be designed (if government advice were followed) to a speed of 18mph, and cyclists who wanted to exceed that were advised to use the road. In practice, as you say, many paths aren't suitable for 18mph, so cyclists would need to use the road even at quite low speeds. However, the OP was doing 30mph, and is well aware that this is not a safe speed for almost any path.

And of course, the bit about "cyclists should use the road if..." is not understood by everyone.

I think they have a design speed of about 12mph, with a sort of maximum of 18mph ish. Not that you'd be able to do 18mph all the way along them, even gradients allowing.

Re: Sri Lanka Commonwealth Cyclists On M74

CTC Forum - On the road - 24 July 2014 - 10:04am
Mick F wrote:Motorways don't have the big signs any more.
The ones that stated what was forbidden .... agricultural vehicles, mopeds under 50cc, learner drivers, cyclists, animals, pedestrians, etc etc etc.

I was long intrigued by that badly worded sign "End of Motorway Regulations". I had looked in the Highway Code, and been unable to find any End of Motorway Regulations. Perhaps only special initiates were allowed to read them.

Re: Train tickets and bike reservations for someone in the U

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 24 July 2014 - 10:02am
It can be done with one change: Slough-Hereford, Hereford-Holyhead. Tell the journey-planner to find you a route via Ledbury for these to pop up. (If it shows you two changes, one at Great Malvern and one at Hereford, that's also a good option - it's the same route and the Great Malvern change will be between two trains on the same platform.)

Ask the station staff at Hereford and they'll shepherd you across the tracks, so you don't have to lug your bike across the bridge. (There's a new bridge with lift going in, but I don't think it's open yet - might be wrong.)

But james01's suggestion of Cardiff is good too. Changing at Reading is pretty easy now that the station's redeveloped.

Very very definitely book a bike space for the Arriva Trains Wales services (i.e. Cardiff/Hereford/Crewe to Holyhead). These are little trains with limited bike space and get very busy. First Great Western (Slough/Reading to Cardiff/Hereford) have better bike accommodation but booking doesn't hurt. If you go another route and your journey takes you on a CrossCountry train, definitely book for that too.

Re: Triumph of HiViz over common sense?

CTC Forum - On the road - 24 July 2014 - 10:00am
TonyR wrote:I saw another variant today. Someone cycling along in what appeared to be a bright yellow shower cap. No helmet underneath as far as I could tell, just a shower cap and apart from that normal clothes.
Sure it wasn't a hi-viz buff? I have one - it apparently looks really confusing on security cameras (said the airport security who pulled me over to find out what it was ).

Re: Train tickets and bike reservations for someone in the U

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 24 July 2014 - 9:47am
http://www.cyclestreets.net/journey/ is a good place to start with route planning.

But I would put together a route and post it on here & ask locals / knowledgeable people to comment.

Re: Asshat In A Car

CTC Forum - On the road - 24 July 2014 - 9:46am
10 mph on a shared cycle path too fast I think? thats the trouble. peds need segregating

Re: Train tickets and bike reservations for someone in the U

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 24 July 2014 - 9:44am
My suggestion:and just one change of trains needed: cycle the short hop from Slough to Reading on Sustrans routes :http://www.sustrans.org.uk/ncn/map/route/238442,202537
Catch the Reading to Cardiff train, change in Cardiff for the Cardiff to Holyhead train - book early for a bargain, the Trainline website is showing off-peak September tickets Cardiff to Holyhead £21.00. This is quite slow, it stops at many rural stations en-route but passes through great countryside. Bikes were free when I did it a couple of years ago. I cycled the Lon-Las route Holyhead to Cardiff in 5 days carrying camping gear, not pushing too hard. It's a great trip.

Re: ITV TdeF coverage; any good?

CTC Forum - Racing - 24 July 2014 - 9:43am
Hi,
SKY sports news @ 09.25, roney scores 2 goals in man U 7 - 0 against galaxy, you see all seven goals.
Lampard goes to NY city "It's not about the money" in squeaky voice...........
Niboly and an angry cyclist with an oppossing fan.
Brad say's "The old guard is back together" sporting a convict hair do.
And finally a nine dart game.

Probably 40 % was footee...........................money talks

Re: Asshat In A Car

CTC Forum - On the road - 24 July 2014 - 9:43am
If I understand it correctly, it was a complete picture. Cycle paths were meant to be designed (if government advice were followed) to a speed of 18mph, and cyclists who wanted to exceed that were advised to use the road. In practice, as you say, many paths aren't suitable for 18mph, so cyclists would need to use the road even at quite low speeds. However, the OP was doing 30mph, and is well aware that this is not a safe speed for almost any path.

And of course, the bit about "cyclists should use the road if..." is not understood by everyone.

Re: Asshat In A Car

CTC Forum - On the road - 24 July 2014 - 9:38am
drossall wrote:Government advice was always to use the road at speeds in excess of 18mph (antepenultimate bullet) - but this is now an archived page and I'm not sure that there is a current equivalent.
I think 18mph on a shared path is excessive, 10mph or slower for me, especially as most shared paths are too narrow.

Re: ITV TdeF coverage; any good?

CTC Forum - Racing - 24 July 2014 - 9:28am
He did an A level in German so it's quite possible.

Re: ITV TdeF coverage; any good?

CTC Forum - Racing - 24 July 2014 - 9:19am
Bicycler wrote:Ontherivet77 wrote:However, Phil Liggett needs to go, his support for Lance was bad enough, but also his pandering to an american audience, bigging up the likes of Van Garderen and Horner etc. Also, if he refers to Association Football as Soccer again I'm tempted to throw the tv out the window. A previous post referred to multiple commentary streams for american channels which must explain him referring to the World Cup as the World Soccer Cup.
Lots of people of Liggett's generation and older refer to soccer, particularly those who were brought up in areas where rugby was popular. In any case, I don't see the problem with using language everyone understands. Wouldn't it be a tad arrogant to address a worldwide audience and refer to Association Football (or soccer) as "football" as if it's the only sport carrying that name?

FWIW, I'm heartily sick enduring the media's preoccupation with that sport. I find it annoying when newsreaders assume everyone's first language is soccer, eg. like the way that they refer to the England football team as England or Wigan Athletic FC as Wigan as if it's obvious what is meant by "England playing tonight" or "Wigan won yesterday".

As for Horner and Van Garderen, they are quite big names. Horner won the Vuelta last year. British TV's Team Sky focus is more blatant than any pro-American bias in the commentary.

My Dad is of an age with Liggett and he has never used the word Soccer. Soccer is just a nickname (derived from Association) in the same way that Rugger is a nickname for Rugby. Football is the world's most popular game so it shouldn't be too hard for people to recognise what you are talking about, it is also insulting to British viewers to have their national sport referred to in this way. The majority of international federations use the word Football in their titles, e.g. Deustche Fussball Bund.

I accept there is an over saturation of football. I live in Wigan and if someone was talking Rugby they would probably say Wigan Warriors or the Warriors, whereas the Wigan FC are referred to as the Latics, but if it's a professional sports presenter I'd expect them to use the proper name and on the news surely they introduce the Football results or the Rugby results, so you know what sport they are talking about.

As for the team Sky bias, so it should be if you are broadcasting to a British audience.


On another point I'm sure I've heard Ned interviewing in German.

Re: Sri Lanka Commonwealth Cyclists On M74

CTC Forum - On the road - 24 July 2014 - 9:09am
[XAP]Bob wrote:The only clue being that the cycle lane is wide enough.
Should be a dead give-away.
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