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Re: Dealing with mosquitos

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 August 2014 - 10:02pm
A great way to treat bites is by using heat - it breaks down the proteins biting insects inject, soothing and removing the irritation.
Heat a spoon (knife, fork, whatever) up in a mug of very hot water, dab it on the bite until its just bearable to press and hold it on, repeat.
Ms Wino was bitten in Turkey this year and her forearm ballooned up. The antihistamines we had weren't up to it but this method sorted it out.

Re: Cycling in Spain late August to mid September

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 August 2014 - 9:15pm
Thanks for the heads up. I'm doing Barcelona to Bordeaux from 5th September along the Raid Pyrenees route and hadn't even considered it

I think we will just miss them but may be there will be a few more cyclists around than usual

Overtaking cyclists - as seen from a motoring forum

CTC Forum - On the road - 15 August 2014 - 9:07pm
The view 'from the other side' so to speak.

A discussion on the idiots overtaking cyclists on blind bends on the Alfa Romeo forum. Gratifyingly at 8 posts in (at time of writing) not one mention of road tax.

Re: Cyclist dies on Surrey 100

CTC Forum - On the road - 15 August 2014 - 8:59pm
Memorial ride on Sunday at Newlands Corner.
http://road.cc/content/news/126700-cycl ... ridelondon

Cycling in Spain late August to mid September

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 August 2014 - 8:58pm
Love it, hate it or couldn't care less, if you are planning to cycle in Southern Spain between 23rd & 29th August or Northern Spain between 3rd & 14th September (plus a few places in the middle on intervening dates) don't forget to take into account that the rolling circus of the Vuelta is happening then. If you wonder if it might affect your route, or you'd like to see some of it, details of where they'll be and when are to be found here.


Re: 'Cyclists Dismount', should we?

CTC Forum - On the road - 15 August 2014 - 8:57pm


From Schedule one I think I can see where that extra diagonal may originate:-

3. Signboards to be used

3.1. Prohibitory signs
Intrinsic features:
◾round shape
◾black pictogram on white background, red edging and diagonal line (the red part to take up at least 35% of the area of the sign).
(My emphasis.)
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1996 ... ule/1/made

But, that seems to be trumped by the bit in Reg 4 (6) about the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984:-

(6) Where it is appropriate to provide safety signs in accordance with paragraph (1) because at a place of work there is a risk to the health or safety of any employee in connection with the presence or movement of traffic (including pedestrians in relation to such traffic) and there is an appropriate sign in that connection prescribed under the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984(3), that sign shall be used whether or not that Act applies to that place of work.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1996 ... ion/4/made

Re: lake district route advice please

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 August 2014 - 8:26pm
Ta for that.

Guess I mean the town really, as will be coming in by train. Take it you mean the ferry at bowness? And onto hawkshead, up hammerhead hill?

Yes been up and down wrynose couple of times, but not with panniers on back "reduce speed now!"

Re: Devon C2C

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 August 2014 - 7:35pm
Sounds good. For info, Vieiras cafe in Yelverton does nice cake! The national trust gorge at Lydford is nice if you got an hour or so to walk around it.

Re: 'Cyclists Dismount', should we?

CTC Forum - On the road - 15 August 2014 - 7:34pm
Signs where people are employed must meet the The Health and Safety (Safety Signs and Signals) Regulations 1996:


Signs must comply with the descriptions in Schedule 1.

The Regs “apply to all premises and activities where workers are employed, but exclude signs used for the regulation of road, rail, inland waterway, sea or air traffic and those used in the marketing of dangerous substances, products and equipment. However, the Regulations require the use of road traffic signs, as prescribed in the Road Traffic Regulations Act 1984”,

Re: lake district route advice please

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 August 2014 - 7:04pm
Start - Cross ferry to west side of lake. (stiff climb from ferry)
Then Hawkshead, Coniston, A593 Torver, Then Broughton Mills.
Head north - Seathwaite, Cockley Beck.
T' junction. (left for Hardnott) turn right for Wrynose and drop down to Little Langdale.(very good brakes needed).
Doing it this way I think takes the sting out of both passes as basically your on the plateau between them.
Near Skelwith Bridge chose back to Hawkshead and ferry over Lake or Ambleside then Windermere.

About 40 miles round trip but a bit lumpy and low gears required.

Just a question - When you say Windermere do actually mean the town or the just anywhere near the Lake?

Re: Bike Security Locked At Supermarket Bike Rack

CTC Forum - On the road - 15 August 2014 - 6:24pm
In a privately owned shopping complex in Canterbury, you MUST lock your bike in the designated cycle parking area which is along a narrow alley conveniently out of sight of security guards and CCTV cameras. If you want to lock it up in a more open public place within the centre - tough -being sensible and security minded is not allowed.

Re: Getting to Germany with bikes

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 August 2014 - 6:00pm
"When my wife and I came thru Germany earlier this year it WAS NOT simple. Any rural station has no staff,just a machine. To get the right ticket from the machine you have to understand the machine,then put in the prescribed money in the prescribed notes."

I sympathise and have been there myself. The machines are supposed to be multilingual but I've yet to find one that is. But if you want an international ticket, say to Hoek then you can bypass the machines and use the DBahn Info Service. Now I realise that many stations are unmanned but even smallish towns have a DBahn Information Service for international travel amongst other things, on the station. To my knowledge this covers most of western Germany say Rhineland, Westphalia and Lower Saxony.

For info, there is a new system on Dutch railways and you can get a day ticket to anywhere in Netherlands for 16.5 Euro plus 6 Euro for the bike. That is a good deal for crossing the country and you can buy the ticket on the ferry using your debit card. The new Dutch platform machines take cards but whether my UK bank card works I didn't have time to find out. You now have to check you ticket in and out each journey. I'll leave others to discuss this new system (which the Dutch appear to hate)



Re: Advice regarding fixed touring base/ support company

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 August 2014 - 5:04pm
TrevA wrote:I'd recommend the Alps. My wife and I had a fixed-based holiday, being based near Bourg d'Oisans and we did some of the famous Tour climbs...
Mmmm, I like the sound of that. You're giving me ideas...

Re: Getting to Germany with bikes

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 August 2014 - 4:57pm
greyhead wrote:Lufthansa claim that the bike needs no dismantling or packaging, just wheel it up to the check-in. Not a cheap option but apparently very straightforward and all completed in one day thus loosing less touring time. However, I'm still struggling with the idea of trusting my bike to the baggage handlers at Brum and Frankfurt, so has anyone any experience of travelling with a bike in this way on Lufthansa?
I used Lufthansa in 2013 from Manchester to Frankfurt. No problems with damage to the bikes. After booking the flights I had to ring Lufthansa to book the bikes on the flight. They wanted to know the weight of the bikes. At Manchester one of the bikes was weighed; at Frankfurt they didn't bother. I'd certainly use Lufthansa again with bikes.

Re: 'Cyclists Dismount', should we?

CTC Forum - On the road - 15 August 2014 - 4:51pm
On the subject of the use of NO CYCLING signs at places like bus stations:-

I wonder if there are any Health and Safety people on here. I'd be interested to know if there is some sort of list of standard / approved health and safety signs. There are images of all sorts of prohibition signs on the internet, many of which have a red diagonal in addition to a red circle. Many of these seen to be the whim of the vendor but some look official. The HSE publishes a book for construction site safety PROTECTING THE PUBLIC: Your next move whose cover includes the representation of a NO PEDESTRIANS sign with the additional red diagonal.

Are there two hymn sheets here?

Re: First Tour

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 August 2014 - 4:38pm
Try reading Cycling Home From Siberia by Rob Lilwall. Difficult to believe you could do what he did - and makes whinges about touring in UK or nearly anywhere which is temperate and close to civilisation (and by close I mean less than 50 miles away) look a trifle sad.

Yes, but... If you set out to cycle home from Siberia, I suppose you sign up for a bit more (unavoidable) discomfort than you might want to experience in a gentle tour through England? That is: cycle touring can cover a range of experiences -- some people find that battling the elements/midges/yaks brings its rewards, others want something a bit more relaxing (and some might want both, depending on their mood). Cycling doesn't have to be an endurance event to be worthwhile, does it...?

Back to the OP's adventures: +1 for the suggestion of using Streetview to help with orientation (I'm a great one for setting out in the wrong direction from train stations, car parks, etc: having a bit of foreknowledge of the landmarks and layout of streets can be very helpful). On waterproofs: I agree that nothing's ever entirely waterproof, though having something which will keep you warm is useful (neoprene shoecovers can be good for that: they don't keep your feet dry in a torrential downpour, but they stop them getting too cold).

For your next tour: how about the Lancashire cycleway? Not too far from you (I think?), very well signposted (in case of further GPS disasters, and/or for help with paper map-reading), and with lots of good rail links on the way round, in case things turn miserable and you need to beat a tactical retreat. Some info here (the Cicerone guidebook is very good, too): http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/corporate/web/?siteid=3732&pageid=42247&e=e

Re: Devon C2C

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 August 2014 - 3:43pm
Wow, never anticipated quite such a full and detailed response - thank you all. For info, we're heading by train from Newton Abbot to Barnstaple on Sunday morning (first train from St. Davids, hoping and praying the 6 minutes connection time will be sufficient...), leaving Barnstaple about 11:00 or so. My bike's a steel tourer with 700x32 and my son's is a hybrid with fairly chunky 26x1 and a big bit, or 2 and a small bit, I think, so don't have any worries about the surfaces/terrain. Couple of panniers on the rear of each. 40 miles or so on Sunday afternoon along the Tarka Trail to Meeth then the main road to Hatherleigh and lanes to Okehampton, followed by Granite Way to Sourton Down to camp for the night. Down to Plymouth during Monday, assuming we can successfully negotiate Tavistock! Gonna be fun, although my son has just done a week at scout camp, so he could be utterly useless...
Thanks again.

Re: Whats wrong with Portugal?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 August 2014 - 3:22pm
We're staying for a week near Coimbra next month. I get a day's pass (and a hired MTB of unknown quality) to go off for a day's riding

I'm more of a road rider really, so that's what I'll do. Any suggestions? Am I likely to find that maps are a problem? Are the Portuguese open source maps any good? I could load those onto my GPS...

Re: Help with choosing bike type and/or commute through Lond

CTC Forum - On the road - 15 August 2014 - 2:28pm
aspiringcyclist wrote:Oh, so there is no issue with night riding on the towpath? That would simplify things for me considerably. Could you also tell me if it is possible to use a road bike on it as well, perhaps with slightly larger tyres?

I use a road bike for commuting, but only spring through mid-autumn. Most road bikes will take maximum 25 or 28 mm tyres, which is fine for good and moderate conditions, but not enough in winter. Also, no road bike will have clearance for winter tyres. If you want something with drop handle bars that you can use year round, you probably need to get a touring bike. Drop handle bars have the advantage of better rider aerodynamics, so they will probably make your journey less tiring, and may make it a bit quicker, as well. However, visibility is a bit better from a more upright bike, so you will have to weigh you preferences and decide which is better. You could also try test riding some from a bike shop if you aren't certain.

You still need to ask about the tyre clearance. Most touring bikes will take a non-studded winter tyre, like Top Contact, but some will not take studded tyres. There are a couple of threads on here about winter tyres...


Re: Advice regarding fixed touring base/ support company

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 August 2014 - 1:41pm
Lightning wrote:Hello, First posting on this site for me.
I'm looking for some advice from those more experienced in cyling abroad. I'm a pretty fit 55 year old and have in recent years been on 3/4 day trips with my extremely fit 27 year old son and most recently did the C2C classic and this year the Hadrians Wall route. We both ride road bikes and because i do not enjoy being loaded down with panniers etc have used a support company to move our gear daily, my son Matt spent a few days in Provence this summer carrying kit on a seatpost mount but he is less attached to creature comforts than me!
We are looking for a 4/5/6 day trip somewhere in Europe which we are considering either as a fixed base trip or with a support company to move kit etc, we will be taking our own bikes with us. We both enjoy hills and interesting terrain so wouldn't want anywhere too flat. So these are the questions:
Can anyone recommend somewhere for a fixed base with enough routes to give us interesting rides up to 70ish miles daily?
Does anyone know of any companies that provide logistical support regarding daily kit moves etc
Where to go - best countries for a trip this sort of length?
Thanks in advance for any advice.

I'd recommend the Alps. My wife and I had a fixed-based holiday, being based near Bourg d'Oisans and we did some of the famous Tour climbs including the Galibier, Alpe d'Huez, Col de la Croix de Fer as well as some less famous (and less arduous) climbs such as the Col d'Ornon. Thoroughly enjoyable, especially if you like hills. There's a booklet that you can get from Tourist information that shows 30 different rides in the Oisans valley.
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