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Re: touring on a trad touring bike?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 6 January 2016 - 11:13am
BTP wrote:Bicycler wrote:A declining choice of premium tyres maybe, but true obsolescence isn't even on the horizon
Not yet, no. But the reason often cited for using the 26" size on tourers is that it is the easiest to obtain spares for worldwide.

That was originally because the MTB used to be the main go-to option for people worldwide who wanted a cheap bike. Cheap Chinese MTBs with 26" wheels flooded the market in the 80s and 90s especially in poorer countries.

Thats changing now.

Cheers
I'm pretty sure cheap MTBs still use 26" wheels, worldwide. Though the truly cheap bikes in many parts of the world will still be roadsters on 27" or 700c, or on an older form 26" like the 590 (or was it 584?) used on old Raleighs. Or even 650b!

Re: Longest UK off-road surfaced cycle route?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 6 January 2016 - 11:05am
If you want decent long distance off road cycle routes go to Korea. They have just opened 1752 kms!
http://english.visitkorea.or.kr/enu/GK/GK_EN_2_7_4.jsp

Have look at the link, there are 3 ebooks with full descriptions of the routes. On page 3 of each is a general map of all the routes.

I recently rode quite a bit of these and if you want to keep traffic free, they are wonderful. Well surfaced, all paved, and reasonably signposted. You can also free camp almost anywhere along the way. I didnt, preferring the reasonably priced motels.

I sometimes found they could get a bit boring and overall, I preferred the mixed cycle route that runs all the way down the East coast as there was more chance to mix with the local culture. Nonetheless the off road routes are a wonderful facility.

The best bit of the new routes is the bit that goes right through Seoul without touching a road, apart from about 50 metres, due to construction work. Imagine a route through London like that. I was dreading crossing greater Seoul, it turned out to be a doddle.

Taiwan have also implemented long distance cycle routes and every police station on the way has a bike repair kit for the public to use.

When you see what these countries have done to promote cycling you realise how pathetic our efforts in the UK are.

Re: London - Finsbury Park to Blackfriars

CTC Forum - On the road - 6 January 2016 - 10:49am
Onyerbike1979 wrote:
Since I moved to London three years ago I have heard lots about cyclists getting knocked over, killed etc.
I obviously do not want this happening to me.

Don't let the perceived risks get to you. Since moving to London (from Baile Atha Cliath) thirty years ago, I've cycled in London on a daily basis and never had a coming-together with another road user. As others have said, the health benefits far far outweigh any risk.

My advice would be give yourself plenty of time and start slowly. Good advice above on reccy'ing the route beforehand - you might want to get up very early on a Sunday because Sunday traffic is often worse in London than weekday traffic.

Familiarise yourself as much as you can with your route: do it on a Sunday, read the map again, cycle it again, study the map again. I'm currently living in temporary accommodation in West London, it's a whole new world for me out here and I've cut my 11 mile commute down from 50 mins to 40 mins by studying maps.google in the evening (I haven't got faster).

Don't try to beat the Tube times - that will come naturally once you are certain of your route and your fitness builds.

Don't try to cycle every day, start slowly and do a couple of days a week, then every second day, then every day but award yourself Friday "off" so you can go pubbing with your workmates. As your fitness builds you will eventually much prefer to cycle every day rather than endure public transport.

Buy a good U-lock and cable. Google videos on good locking practice: there is a skill in locking the bike to give scumbags the least opportunity.

The essentials for me, I would not cycle to the shops without: puncture kit and pump, lights, lock, waterproof jacket. Puncture kits these days are self-adhesive and a breeze to use. If your bike has quick release wheels you might prefer to carry a spare tube - bought from Decathlon they are only £1 each. When I lived in Dublin punctures were a daily occurrence, I've even had several in one day, fixing them was part of the joy. Back then I was able to fix one in minutes. These days tyres like the Schwable Marathon are very good and you can cycle all year without a puncture - but years of habit prevent me from cycling around the corner without carrying my kit.

In thirty years of commuting I have only ever been fortunate enough to work in one office with a shower. There, I left my towel and wash kit in a sports bag at my desk, drying the towel every day. In all other offices I would leave shoes and trousers in the office and cycle wearing cycling shorts and shoes, new t-shirt every day, and taking care to wear as little as possible over it - often just a windproof shell - to avoid or reduce sweating. I would always start the commute feeling too cold but knowing I would warm up. Oh, and leave a fleece, or coat, at work because if you want to go out at lunchtime you'll find your cycling windproof will be too cold.

Enjoy.

Re: Longest UK off-road surfaced cycle route?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 6 January 2016 - 10:12am
Bigdummysteve wrote:If you zoom into the trail you can get an idea of some of the trails. Between Stoke and Birmingham a lot of the towpaths are quiet and well surfaced ( good gravel ) I found a lot of these paths as fast as rhe road
I'm sure you're a super-careful rider, but for those who aren't, please don't ride at road speeds on the towpath... everyone else is doing 3mph and it'll just end up with cyclists being banned. (There are already plenty of boaters calling for that. )

M Giant TCX cross bike and 56ccm Ribble Audax road bike

CTC Forums - Bikes For Sale - 6 January 2016 - 9:57am
2013 spec Medium Giant TCX SLR1 - it was originally RRP'd at £2399 with SRAM hydro discs but I fitted BB7's instead soon after I bought it (I didn't get on with the hydraulics at all) - it's in vgc, only just 12 months old (bought direct from Giant Store Liverpool)…..

I'm after just £725 plus postage (I'm in Cheshire)

(note that this is higher specced than the current SLR1, hence the higher original RRP - better forks & wheels)

Will come with almost new Schwalbe Durano 32mm road tyres plus a brand new set of Schwalbe Smart Sam 40c cross tyres.

Full spec:

Alloy frame will all internal cabling
Full carbon monocoque forks with 15mm bolt thru axle and OD2 tapered steerer
SRAM Apex shifters (new), FORCE rear mech (carbon plates), Rival front mech
BB7 disc brakes (new)
FSA Gossamer BB30 chain set with 46-33 rings (nearly new 33t TA inner)
Sram cassette
Giant CXR1 wheels
Two sets of tyres: Schwlabe Durano road tyres (32mm) which are a couple of rides old plus Schwalbe Smart Sam 40mm CX tyres.
Giant Performance saddle and D-fuse carbon seat post
Giant Contact SL stem
Dead RHM02 bars
Zipp CX tape (v recent)

Although the bike is 12 months old, it has had very little use, hence selling

IMG_2137 by Mike Dean, on Flickr

IMG_2140 by Mike Dean, on Flickr

Ribble 7005 Audax. This is the 58cm version, which sizes up much smaller than it sounds - it has a 56cm top tube and measures 55cm centre to centre on the seat tube. It comes with an Alpina headset and Alpina carbon forks. It is in excellent condition, with very little use (maybe 200 miles max) so has a few assembly marks and little else. The shifters have the usual "worming" effect that the 6600's were susceptible to (shown in the pics) but otherwise all good. Perfect winter frame with mudguard eyes and rack mounts. Complete bike with full Ultegra 6600 10 speed group (as new as frame), New Deda stem, new Ritchey WCS bars and brand new Fulcrum Sport wheels, Genesis seatpost and seat (in transit on new bike!) for £420

IMG_2144 by Mike Dean, on Flickr

IMG_2150 by Mike Dean, on Flickr

IMG_2148 by Mike Dean, on Flickr
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Re: touring on a trad touring bike?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 6 January 2016 - 9:40am
I use drop bars on a gravel grinder with wide and fast 26 inch tyres. I think it is perfect for anything short of truly demanding off road riding. But for that I would want suspension as well. So my bike handles tarmac, gravel roads and forest trails with ease, and I think it is the perfect compromise for tours in Europe. I normally take only rear panniers, but on a recent trip combining business with pleasure I also had to take front panniers, and that was fine too (other than heavier). Brakes are Magura HS66 hydraulic rim brakes and they are powerful enough. V brakes with the Tektro v brake levers for drop bars are also fine, according to friends who have used them (but only with bar end or downtube shifters, of course). In short, there is sweet spot in between the two styles of tractor bikes and traditional British tourers.

Re: London - Finsbury Park to Blackfriars

CTC Forum - On the road - 6 January 2016 - 9:39am
Wow, awesome replies folks, thanks so much. Hope to pick up the bike before the weekend and try the route over the weekend to get used to it as until now I was a tube goer so not too familiar with life above the pavement so to speak. I used google maps for cycle route but will also look at those other suggestions too.
Im hoping that along the route that there will be enough cyclists that I can observe en route to the office.

In terms of gear, what are the essentials. Obviously I am going to buy reflective gear and helmet but in terms of locks, puncture repair etc what would you good people recommend.

Oh and this is going to sound odd but..........those of you that commute to work in the morn, what is your routine if I may be so nosy. We have great facilities in my new office, showers, lockers etc. Trying to figure out the best way here, leave towels in locker or pack a fresh one every day. Do you pack your work clothes into a bag for your commute? If so is there a bag you could recommend that big is enough and comfortable for this?

Again thanks everyone for the advice and suggestions so far, very much appreciated!!

Have a good day!

A

Re: The Plug iii -any views...and will it fit a 1" steerer?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 6 January 2016 - 8:25am
I've just noticed your latest message, Dave.

I'll try to answer to your questions.

We are principally touring cyclists, and prefer to travel with full camping kit in wildness and mountainous areas on unmade roads. Our fleet comprises steel-framed bikes with mudguards, front and rear racks, and variously equipped with Carradice saddle bags, Ortlieb panniers, and small and large barbags as required. So, we are not particularly fast cyclists and, even when we are 'pressing on', we tend towards the 'full value' or touring end of audax riding too. We like the freedom to ride into the night, and modern hub generator-driven LED lighting is truly wonderful, and provides for much of our USB charging needs too.

I've not seen the evidence that the Reactor requires a higher speed than the Plug for a given output; if anything I thought I recalled reading the contrary. Just looking now, Sinewave claim a peak USB charging current of 1A at 14.4kph whereas the Cinq 5 claim the Plug III only reaches 5W output (which would be 1A at a USB nominal 5V) at a little more than 30kph. Certainly, my experience is that the Reactor performs better than the Plug at touring speeds.

We use various Schmidt SON hub generators i.e. SON 28 Klassik, new style SON 28 and the SONdelux, and even one of the original (first generation) SON hubs, which must now be over 15 years old. For slower touring speeds, a SON 28 is our preference. Our standard set up is to connect them to Schmidt Edelux (an Edelux II in one case) front lights with B&M Secula or Toplight Line Plus rear lights. The lights are controlled automatically by the Edelux ambient light sensor. As I mentioned, we keep our Garmins connected to our Sinewave Reactors all the time, and sometimes via a cache battery. The cache battery can also be used to charge phones, cameras, headtorches, etc. when touring too, and can be topped up from the mains when the opportunities arise. It all works very reliably throughout the year whatever the weather.

As an aside, and since someone mentioned it earlier in this forum thread, I have used the B&M Luxos U with USB charging too, and my experience is that the Reactor has a far better USB charging performance than the Luxos U. This difference in performance is greatest at night, when the Luxos wouldn't provide any USB charging with the light on dipped beam, whereas the Reactor will charge a USB device and power an Edelux perfectly adequately for all but the fastest, winding, unlit descents. If ever I needed more light output from my Edelux, unplugging the USB charging cable would provide a little extra lighting using the Edelux at its full potential. The Luxos is an excellent light, but I find the U-variant is disappointing with respect to its USB charging performance.

Re: Booby Trap Warning: Tiptree, Essex

CTC Forum - On the road - 6 January 2016 - 8:12am
Last night I was driving in torrential rain, sometimes on country lanes. Having contributed to this topic earlier in the day I asked myself whether I would spot a lump of concrete, the size of a football, on the dark, wet road surface. The honest answer is no, not on some of the potholed lanes with their irregular surfaces. I was driving in my usual way, watching out for pedestrians and other road users, plenty of margin for error. But rubble on the road would not have shown up well in my headlights with the wipers going. (Taller obstructions like cyclists and pedestrians would have been much easier to identify).

Taking the discussion a little away from the original topic, what cycling-related message can I take from this? Well, my lights would have picked out taller obstructions (including people) so no problem there. But if there had been an injured person on the floor with no reflectives, and in dark clothing, I may or may not have seen them. Putting aside the rights and wrongs of this, if you ever find yourself lying injured on a road at night, and if you are able, get yourself off the road ASAP.

I think nearly all motorists know about the requirement to be able to stop in the distance you can see to be clear, but when we think "clear" we tend to think clear of the usual obstructions such as other motor vehicles, pedestrians, cyclists, horses and (here in Wales) sheep. Stuff lying on the floor is rare and therefore not at the top of our list of what to watch out for. Stuff on the floor is also much harder to identify at the sort of distance that motorists (and, to a lesser degree, cyclists) look. Rubble would be identified as such (in the dark) quite close up, but the motorist normally concentrates on a zone a bit further up the road. You could be very good at spotting cyclists and very poor at spotting bricks.

Re: Booby Trap Warning: Tiptree, Essex

CTC Forum - On the road - 6 January 2016 - 7:50am
AlaninWales wrote:We are now all vehemently agreeing I wonder why

I agree by the way.

Well, to deal with moving vehicles one can't see (eg approaching car round a bend) everyone would have to be able to stop in half the distance they can see to be clear.

Re: trans am for novice advice needed

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 6 January 2016 - 7:42am
I've done a bit of touring in the US, I do live there after all, and I can assure you that whatever you decide to do you will have a good time. If you're camping be prepared for cold stuff, in Arizona I've gone from 90F (32C) to snow in one day's ride. If you decide to do the ST resist the temptation to go into Mexico, anywhere north of the border should be OK. On the whole officialdom outside big cities is friendly, so town halls, libraries and police stations are good places to ask about camping. In one Missouri town they let us camp on the lawn in front of CIty Hall and use the toilets inside which meant going past the cells to get to them. The best people of all to ask for help is the Volunteer Fire Department. Before today they let us sleep in a VFD among the fire engines. They were even called out and I slept right through it, lights, sirens and everything.

Re: Booby Trap Warning: Tiptree, Essex

CTC Forum - On the road - 6 January 2016 - 7:29am
AlaninWales wrote:We are now all vehemently agreeing I wonder why

I agree by the way.
I don't think we ever disagreed.

Re: touring on a trad touring bike?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 6 January 2016 - 7:02am
khain wrote:Erudin wrote:khain wrote:Can someone post what the book actually says? A short extract is covered by fair use.....

Extracts are available to read in the "Look Inside" section at: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Adventure-Cycle-Touring-Handbook-Worldwide-Trailblazer/dp/190586468X/ref=dp_ob_title_bk

I didn't see much about British tourers, perhaps the omission is most telling. I did notice this:

"For adventure touring drop bars are simply not as good as straight bars. They aren’t wide enough to give good leverage with heavily-loaded front panniers on rough mountain roads … and the brakes are much less powerful than MTB brakes."

Seems fair enough. I cycled the Alps with drops and heavy front panniers. It wasn't that bad but I would have preferred straight bars with v-brakes. On very rough roads I can images drops would be pretty dismal.

I'm a bit surprised that you didn't find drops good on Alpine roads. That is where I find them best. The idea of undertaking a ten mile climb with straight bars is not appealing. For me the hands on hoods position is perfect for climbing, just shifting my hands around occasionally to avoid discomfort. I find straights, even with bar ends, have no good climbing position. And my tourer handles well on Alpine climbs and descents with panniers front and rear. It feels really well planted on the road. And whilst I don't see touring as an opportunity to race, I tend to overtake heavily laden German and Dutch cyclists on their straight barred tourers, especially on climbs. They look red faced and suffering, even more than me. I go slow, but they seem to go even slower. And I don't think it is because they are taking time to enjoy the scenery.

Re: touring on a trad touring bike?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 6 January 2016 - 5:47am
Bicycler wrote:A declining choice of premium tyres maybe, but true obsolescence isn't even on the horizon
Not yet, no. But the reason often cited for using the 26" size on tourers is that it is the easiest to obtain spares for worldwide.

That was originally because the MTB used to be the main go-to option for people worldwide who wanted a cheap bike. Cheap Chinese MTBs with 26" wheels flooded the market in the 80s and 90s especially in poorer countries.

Thats changing now.

Cheers

Re: waterproof overgloves

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 6 January 2016 - 2:48am
fishfright wrote:Why do i keep reading this as waterproof ovengloves?
Perhaps you are confusing baking with biking.

Re: touring on a trad touring bike?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 6 January 2016 - 1:36am
A declining choice of premium tyres maybe, but true obsolescence isn't even on the horizon

Re: touring on a trad touring bike?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 6 January 2016 - 12:50am
Barrenfluffit wrote:Also the availability of spares is relevant. I can't remember if the 91 Galaxies had abandoned 27 1/4 wheels but from awkward personal experience I can attest that tyres and wheels in this size are not readily available in France.
I do use it "offroad" but not in the sense of remote multi-day tours on gravel tracks; its not its forte.
Given that the MTB industry now only seems to recognise either 700c or 650b rim sizes I wonder how long it will be before the once ubiquitous 26" rim/tyre used on my Thorn tourer becomes as rare as a 27"?

Re: London - Finsbury Park to Blackfriars

CTC Forum - On the road - 6 January 2016 - 12:06am
+1 for not letting the risk stress you out, and furthermore I'd counsel not to be in too much of a hurry. I see people putting themselves at horrendous risk going too close to 4-axle dumpers, scaffolding trucks, ready-mix cement lorries and other great killers of cyclists and think... they're on their way to work, man, what's the rush?

Hope you find a sweet route- I've not cycled around there for about 15 years. Shoreditch roundabout used to be so quiet on a Saturday morning you could go around the Old Street roundabout (before the addition of traffic lights, obvs) no-hands.

Re: Cycling opportunity Keswick -Kendal

CTC Forum - On the road - 5 January 2016 - 11:44pm
Every year the Keswick to Barrow challenge walk starts just north of Thirlmere. They close the western road to traffic for that but it is a major event. Thousands take part for charity and it dates back to IIRC post WWII Roosevelt comment about every American should be able to walk 50 miles a day. A few years later Americans advising on the building of nuclear submarine design and manufacture at Vickers in Barrow challenged their British colleagues to a walk from Keswick by the Moot Hall to Barrow, a distance of 50 miles. Since then various teams walk it but only the last 40 miles of it was you get army, navy, even airforce teams doing it in competition with BAe systems teams for their own challenge cup. The first time I did it the fastest person completed it in 4 hours then went on to race in a Lakes fell race over marathon distance IIRC. His time broke the previous record and even second place beat the previous too I think. Impressive!

Re: London - Finsbury Park to Blackfriars

CTC Forum - On the road - 5 January 2016 - 11:39pm
Onyerbike1979 wrote:HI folks,

New here so I hope I am in the correct part of the forum for my query.

So I have decided to opt in for the bike to work scheme, all part of a general lifestyle change.

Since I moved to London three years ago I have heard lots about cyclists getting knocked over, killed etc.
I obviously do not want this happening to me.

So I was wondering if anyone here cycles from Green lanes/Finsbury Park to Blackfriars in the morning or close to Blackfriars.
If so would it be ok to shadow you for a week or two so I get used to cycling in the city, get to know my route, areas of congestion etc.

As part of this you will get the company of a fun Irish guy for your commute in the morn

thanks

A

Can't help with the Bike Buddy I'm afraid but don't worry about the risk. Just stay away from big trucks and you'll be fine. About 10 cyclists die on London's roads every year, almost all from turning trucks, but that's out of over 200 million journeys a year so your risk is about as great as that of winning the lottery jackpot. And the exercise will do much more for your life expectancy than the traffic risk.

As for routes you might like to try teh Cycle Streets route planner which allows you to choose between the fastest and quietest routes. http://camden.cyclestreets.net/journey/
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