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Re: Friday Morning Parking Giggle

CTC Forum - On the road - 8 November 2014 - 9:23am
Paulatic wrote:It is in Moffat. I have been in contact with them via Twitter and they assured me,six weeks ago, after the refurb,which starts this week, there will be new cycle racks. I'm watching and lo betide if they don't appear [emoji2]

My co-op does exactly the same, so much so that at first I thought they were actually for trolleys, but in my case I've always found enough space to use at least one of them, and if there wasn't, I'd move the trolleys. Better hope that the new racks are Sheffield ones, not the ones that only lock the front wheel, which to my mind, ought not to be allowed to be sold, never mind installed.

Re: Acceptable overtake?

CTC Forum - On the road - 8 November 2014 - 8:35am
Inconvenience to motor vehicles is the only factor worthy of consideration clearly.

Re: Friday Morning Parking Giggle

CTC Forum - On the road - 8 November 2014 - 8:12am
It is in Moffat. I have been in contact with them via Twitter and they assured me,six weeks ago, after the refurb,which starts this week, there will be new cycle racks. I'm watching and lo betide if they don't appear [emoji2]

Re: Jan to May Riding?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 8 November 2014 - 8:03am
I certainly wouldn't want to ride across central Turkey in January, temperatures often fall to -10 or -15 in central Anatolia; I'm not sure what you mean by Eastern Turkey, but you might be aware there's a war going on just over the border. That said, it would probably be quite pleasant following the Mediterranean and Aegean coasts.

Re: Traveling by Train.

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 8 November 2014 - 7:18am
It is defiantly worth shopping a round for your tickets from what I have found over the last few days. It appears that you can get a substitutional discount with only 8 weeks notice! for instance, looking at prices on the National Rail Enquiries web site for the end of January this morning (I'm not intending to travel in January just fact finding) it is showing a price of £ 55 return from Doncaster Dumbarton. (Prices for beyond that are not shown and will probably be more) I was redirected to the East Coast booking web site and the same journey comes in at £46.10 & that was not the cheapest price on offer! If I was willing to take a later train on the return Journey and change 5 times it comes down to £40.05. I am quit sure I could not drive to Dumbarton in my T5 for that price. The price for departure today on National Rail Enquiries web site is showing £72.70 return again not the cheapest on offer. It all looks good in theory and the prices are looking good this far north. I will be, come the warmer months, letting the train take the strain.

Andy

Re: ROSE BIKE'S UK . .

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 8 November 2014 - 2:04am
Terrible website but I haven't found a German website yet that didn't suck. It's a bit like the whole world domination thing, they get 3/4 of the way there and fall over

Re: ROSE BIKE'S UK . .

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 8 November 2014 - 12:42am
Redvee wrote:mercalia wrote:Rose bikes I think the minimum postage is £7 - they use a courier.

DHL collects the parcel in Germany then ParcelFarce collect it from Coventry airport.

Depends, they give you a choice of delivery methods when you place your order, Royal Mail, UPS, or DHL, I think.
I placed a couple of orders recently and despite selecting UPS both times, the first one came with DHL and the second one with a combination of DHL and Parcelforce. I emailed to ask why they didn't send them with UPS as I had asked, and they said some things like battery lights, oils, etc. can only be sent by surface transport, hence DHL and Parcelforce.
Anyway, both orders were delivered within three days.

Re: ROSE BIKE'S UK . .

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 8 November 2014 - 12:33am
mercalia wrote:Rose bikes I think the minimum postage is £7 - they use a courier.

DHL collects the parcel in Germany then ParcelFarce collect it from Coventry airport.

Re: The financial cost/loss of UK Road incidents £15Billion

CTC Forum - On the road - 7 November 2014 - 11:37pm
My LBS had his Colnago franchise taken off him because others complained his prices were too low,he was making a profit that he was happy with,but they weren't.

Re: Traveling by Train.

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 7 November 2014 - 11:17pm
Admittedly I'm a bit of a train nerd. If the OP or anyone else would like help ascertaining the cheapest tickets for their trip, please PM me and I will do my best to help.

Re: Jan to May Riding?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 7 November 2014 - 10:53pm
My first thought is where do YOU want to go. No point in me waxing lyrically about India if it is the last place you would consider.

Second thought is look at weather. Plenty of great sites out there with historical weather. Jan in Europe can be very cold, May in SE Asia can be very hot.

Third thought is budget. You say you want to travel cheaply, then this could rule out OZ and NZ.

SE Asia is very cheap, no need to camp and great for cycling. Maybe try and include a bit of Southern China. Not sure about the teaching thing, it could take time to organise and you will have to be in the right place which could interfere with cycling. You can easily spend a month in each of the countries, Thai, Burma, Lao, VN, CAmbodia, etc.

As I love SE Asia that is where I would recommend, but probably only for 4 months. Although no reason why you couldn't do 3 months in SEA then fly to Instanbul, pick up camping gear and cycle home from there.

Re: Friday Morning Parking Giggle

CTC Forum - On the road - 7 November 2014 - 10:50pm
Which co-op is that? If you tell me, I'll ask them to reply.

Re: Friday Morning Parking Giggle

CTC Forum - On the road - 7 November 2014 - 10:28pm


My local CooP uses the cycle park for trolleys. By way of protest I leave my bike right by the door. After complaining I've been told we are getting better racks after a refurb.

Re: The financial cost/loss of UK Road incidents £15Billion

CTC Forum - On the road - 7 November 2014 - 10:24pm
toomsie wrote:As I said earlier a monopoly is not possible in free market capitalism unless the customers are happy. If all the road bike companies colluded and decided to fix prices (high) and as a result created a gap in the market for cheap road bikes. That gap would fill by entrepreneur who is good at spotting gap in the market.
That's a very naive view.
Businessmen don't play nicely (there's a reason a large percentage show psychopathic tendencies)

So as far as your new entrepreneur goes they could just buy them out, or they could undercut until they went out of business. More likely they'd put pressure on distribution chains not to stock your entrepreneurs bikes they'd probably also put pressure on their suppliers to prevent the supply of raw materials.
Then they could put pressure on employees, perhaps poach a few key ones and then of course there's always threats - or worse.

None of the above is imaginary. These are techniques that are used today so it's hard to imagine things wouldn't get worse if we removed all controls and simply rely on the free market.

Historically it's never worked so I fail to see why it would work today. As I said above there are reasons governments felt the need to step in and control businesses and corporations.
In reality your average customer actually doesn't really give a monkeys about what the companies are up to behind the scenes. People still drink Starbucks coffee, they still eat at Mc Donalds and they still buy stuff through Amazon despite various revelations.

Re: I Hate Virgin Trains

CTC Forum - On the road - 7 November 2014 - 10:19pm
Maybe they planted the wrong trees when first building the railways, an unforeseen problem. Would fir trees have been better? Maybe lines of shrubberies or heather alongside the lines to try to intercept the leaves?

Re: The financial cost/loss of UK Road incidents £15Billion

CTC Forum - On the road - 7 November 2014 - 9:54pm
kwackers wrote:Once you have more money than most countries there's not a lot you can't do. Corporations already apply far too much political pressure on our governments.
Folk are slowly waking up to the reality of what that actually means but personally I think it's almost too late.

The problem is the government not corporation. Corporation do not have an army or police force. They can't make up laws that benefit them. They cannot stop you from doing peaceful trade that ain't got no business with them.

As I said earlier a monopoly is not possible in free market capitalism unless the customers are happy. If all the road bike companies colluded and decided to fix prices (high) and as a result created a gap in the market for cheap road bikes. That gap would fill by entrepreneur who is good at spotting gap in the market.

Re: M324 Pedals - You couldn't make it up

CTC Forum - On the road - 7 November 2014 - 9:52pm
groberts wrote:I want a set of M324 pedals, Evans show two on their website: (1) at £40.49 (2) £20.99 - the only difference being the cheaper ones have the suffix 'OE' in the name. I have contacted them to ask what the difference is and the answer is: "They are the same pedals! The OE versions just don’t have packaging." £19.50 for packaging, amazing! Guess which ones I'll be getting?£20.99?? Do you mean £24.99? http://www.evanscycles.com/search?query=m324&x=0&y=0 Anyway I bought a pair recently from Evans at Gatwick and they were supplied boxed for £24.99.
They're well made but not light.

Re: Acceptable overtake?

CTC Forum - On the road - 7 November 2014 - 9:34pm
stork wrote:"[He] is on a pedal cycle and there is no dangerous overtaking. no vehicles were caused any inconvenience and the vehicle was back on his side of the road when the oncoming vehicle crossed his path."

Should it be "no motor vehicles were caused any inconvenience and the vehicle was back on his side of the road when the oncoming vehicle crossed his path"?? Inconvenience??!!

Re: The financial cost/loss of UK Road incidents £15Billion

CTC Forum - On the road - 7 November 2014 - 9:33pm
toomsie wrote:Perhaps then no one cares about safety in cars, that is fine. No one should be forced to pay other others safety equipment or service. If you want safety equipment bad enough then you are willing to pay for it. But don't worry there is little chance that car manufactures can get away with false claims about safety. We live in the information age, information gets around very quickly. We also forget that car insurance and health insurgence companies have vested interests in keeping use safe. In a free market they would be working tirelessly to find innovative way to achieve these goals. Also being sued can be very expensive and unpredictable, all of a sudden being safe( in a free market) can work out cheap.
Sued by whom? For what?

Imagine seat belts didn't exist. You car crashes, you go through the windscreen. Could you then sue because the car manufacturer hadn't provided seat belts?
If so why can't a cyclist who's been hit by a car not sue for the car's lack of automatic braking technology? It's the same thing, it could be fitted but isn't.

Of course as a minority cyclist no car driver is going to pay extra just to make you safer. The current perception is that cyclists bring their demise upon themselves, you'd have little or no chance of suing for lack of safety equipment on a vehicle you'd contributed nothing to the cost of.

Which brings us back to the safety equipment being forced on lorry drivers in London (as an obvious example of what I'm saying) and something I notice you didn't address.
Such equipment would never happen if there wasn't an interventionist policy by government. It wouldn't even have been thought of let alone built and tested.

Your entire premise is that if something isn't safe then the victim can sue. But you fail to realise you can only sue if you can show there's been a drop in standards below what you can reasonably expect. But if there is no real level of safety equipment then your expectations of safety are by definition 'low'.
You also assume you'd stand any chance of success. In a climate where big business pulls the strings with no intervention from government I reckon you'd stand no chance - even if you could afford to take them on and most folk can't.

And it's not just cars. That kite mark electrical devices have stamped on them keeps you safe by defining a very large set of documents as to how things should be made and what safety features they should have.
As another example a lot of counterfeits exist that don't bother and have proved fatal on many occasions - yet you don't hear of anyone suing the Chinese(?) company that makes them, nor even when it's known that they're counterfeit do you see the general public refusing to use them, they're more than happy to save a few quid and use an inferior and less safe product. Those are the standard of products *all* companies would make if they had the chance since they're cheaper to make and have higher returns.

I appreciate it's the 'in' thing to knock the nanny state and government interference but frankly you're being sold a lemon. The handful of examples that are touted around where it's all gone a bit pear shaped are but nothing compared to the protection and rights you've had given to you by such rules and laws.

If you believe that choosing how to spend your cash will give you better rights or make you safer then frankly you're a fool.

Re: The financial cost/loss of UK Road incidents £15Billion

CTC Forum - On the road - 7 November 2014 - 9:28pm
MartinC wrote:The notion that markets were rational and could control themselves disappeared in a puff of smoke in 2008. Hearing Alan Greenspan et al's arguments reiterated in 2014 is a bit rich. The financial costs of road incidents have been externalised from elsewhere onto society - some regulation is needed to put them back with the people who generate them and derive the benefit from the activity that produces them, there's no way the market will do that.

I don't think we have a free market capitalism where government controls 50+ of the economy including the money supply, education and healthcare. Banks that get bailouts from government( stolen from the taxpayer) isn't capitalism either, neither is corporation that lobby government to create laws that favor it self at the expense of the competition for bribes and campaign contributions .

You have capitalism when you have voluntary trade.

Socialism is control at gunpoint to benefit the perceived greater good of the country.
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