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Re: Devon C2C

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 August 2014 - 6:32pm
Hi,
Old news but another waste of money 1.6 Mil
http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/bridge-s-w ... story.html
I remember a radio presenter asking on day of opening where it goes the local council spokes man (IIRC) said nothing even when the presenter asked again and again..............................................

Another bridge I pass over several times a week but after a blaze of local big wigs glory it grows cobwebs, I would have been happy with a wooden bridge.
http://www.sustrans.org.uk/policy-evide ... alking-and

It had 1300 cycle trips in first week and 3000 in three weeks if 3000 are made a week for 7 years and a toll of £1 each it will cover the cost of building @ 1.1 Mil.
But if the traffic drops to 1000 a week @ £1 then 21 years to repay.
As the cycle path goes nowhere at the other end what was it for

I would be very surprised if it will ever be 1000 a week, it is pedestrian use too but how many walk the whole length, a mile or so, that too starts in a an industrial estate.......................

Someones making money.

Re: Bonnet surfing

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2014 - 5:48pm
I like the way you think reohn2

Re: Scotland Tour !

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 August 2014 - 5:42pm
That made me crack up laughing as I'm currently in my 2nd month of owning a fairly bushy goatee and tash

Re: Camping in Northern Spain

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 August 2014 - 4:52pm
Thanks for all the helpful comments. We have decided to leave the tents behind this time although I do see there are sites in several of the towns we may or may not pass through. More of hill/weight issue. The route is still pretty vague!!

Re: Scotland Tour !

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 August 2014 - 4:43pm
Thanks again everyone. And Vantage have a great time.Oh and I think my plans are now going to be easier as I have decided to grow a beard !

Re: 'Cyclists Dismount', should we?

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2014 - 4:39pm
TonyR

If you are saying that the sign was of a size not specified anywhere, it's obviously wrong, and I don't think I've suggested anything different, although I'm surprised this would happen, if only because it needs a conscious decision to make something that's not a standard size. Take this back to the original point I was trying to make about a NO CYCLING sign. There was some discussion about an unauthorised version with a red diagonal. We had another thread about something similar a while ago where there was one on the approach to a Tesco car park. I'm only saying that I'd be surprised if something like that were to be erected by a highway authority because among all the cock-ups etc., I'd not expect improvisation. There are, of course, all sorts of variations which have been authorised by the Secretary of State to meet local circumstances.

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PS My query about a streetview higher up wasn't because I doubted the existence of the sign but, as it was in some sort of pedestrian precinct, I wondered if it might have been some private developer's sign.

Re: Devon C2C

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 August 2014 - 4:20pm
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Mick F would probably be ejected out of his brooks If he did the Tarka or even Clearbrook part of Drakes trail I did the trail all the way from Liara Bridge to Clearbrook via Saltram and Marshmills. I gave up at Clearbrook and did the last of the ride to Yelverton on the main A386, as it's so much easier and quicker on the roads!

It was interesting and a novelty, same as Gem Bridge and the trail through Grenofen Tunnel, but TBH it is all a waste of time and money as far as I'm concerned.

Three million quid to build that stupid Gem Bridge.

Re: Rance Tidal Barrage

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 August 2014 - 3:53pm
The Dinard ferry cost 10.5 euros including bike for the 15 min crossing. It may be there is more than one line. I used corsair in July. The problem at the Dinard end is that you are faced with a dozen steps up a wooden stair case behind the 'office'. I couldn't see any way to avoid these. http://www.compagniecorsaire.com/destin ... inard.html

Re: 1.5 or 1.75"

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 August 2014 - 3:48pm
Bike-Rich wrote:Thanks, i'd not considered the Supreme before.
Just looking at some reviews for it though and although positive, it recommends not using with a dynamo (which I have), any reason for this?

Thanks,

I have supremes they are excellent. Mine are 1.6" and weigh about 450g each. they have done 10,000 miles over all surfaces including tracks and forest trails - but true rough stuff is best avoided. The dynamo remark relates to those bottle dynamos that rub a wheel against the sidewall. Some tyres have a track or reinforcing. The sidewall of the supreme would be vulnerable long term. Of course it is fine with hub dynamos.

Re: 1.5 or 1.75"

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 August 2014 - 3:36pm
Thanks, i'd not considered the Supreme before.
Just looking at some reviews for it though and although positive, it recommends not using with a dynamo (which I have), any reason for this?

Thanks,

Re: Rance Tidal Barrage

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 August 2014 - 3:35pm
I too recall it was not a very nice place - I walked across, on the path and there were lots of fishers with their attendant gubbins - nice view though... worse though were the apporaches which carried heavy traffic.
A recent post refers to the St Malo / Dinard ferry as being easy access
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=88372#p809540

Re: 'Cyclists Dismount', should we?

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2014 - 3:31pm
thirdcrank wrote:TonyR wrote: ... You'd be surprised. Its more common than you might think. You'd think there might be a central warehouse from which they could order standard signs but apparently not. IIRC we had a load of wrong way cycling penalties cancelled locally a few years ago because the diameter of the No Entry sign was wrong.

Without knowing the details of a particular case, it's hard to comment, but a sign of the wrong size in one location might be OK in another.

Nope. For a No Entry sign TSRGD specifies that it can only be 270, 450, 600, 750, 900 or 1200mm diameter with no variants permitted.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2002 ... 113_en_034

eg Speed limit repeaters on motorways are the same size as the ordinary signs at the start of an ordinary speed limit and, in any event, the diagram number of a sign only specifies its design (shape, colours and logo) rather than its size.

Nope again. The speed limit sign can only be 300, 450, 600, 750, 900, 1200 or 1500mm diameter with no permitted size variants. The national speed limit sign can be any of those except 300mm with no variants.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2002 ... 113_en_064

Re: Rance Tidal Barrage

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 August 2014 - 3:25pm
We cycled across this last week from East to West. Yes the road was busy but going down the hill was fast and very little traffic came past us. We stopped at the EDF energy visitor centre (loos and water available) which was interesting and cycled up the hill after the bridge was lifted thus having an empty road. There were 5 of us and it would have been close to £50 for the ferry.

Re: 'Cyclists Dismount', should we?

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2014 - 3:13pm
TonyR wrote: ... You'd be surprised. Its more common than you might think. You'd think there might be a central warehouse from which they could order standard signs but apparently not. IIRC we had a load of wrong way cycling penalties cancelled locally a few years ago because the diameter of the No Entry sign was wrong.

Without knowing the details of a particular case, it's hard to comment, but a sign of the wrong size in one location might be OK in another. eg Speed limit repeaters on motorways are the same size as the ordinary signs at the start of an ordinary speed limit and, in any event, the diagram number of a sign only specifies its design (shape, colours and logo) rather than its size. I wasn't talking about errors like that but DIY variations to the TSRGD diagrams.

There is, of course, plenty of well- reported loopholery around traffic signs.

Re: 'Cyclists Dismount', should we?

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2014 - 2:48pm
thirdcrank wrote:I think it would be unusual - as in extremely unlikely - that a highway authority would put up a sign of the wrong design.

You'd be surprised. Its more common than you might think. You'd think there might be a central warehouse from which they could order standard signs but apparently not. IIRC we had a load of wrong way cycling penalties cancelled locally a few years ago because the diameter of the No Entry sign was wrong.

Re: Devon C2C

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 August 2014 - 2:36pm
Hi,
honesty wrote:Ive done the Tarka trail on 25mm and 28mm tyres. Its bumpy but do-able, you just need to be alert and steer around the largest rocks/holes.
Yes do-able I was just suggesting what the run of the mill cyclist would expect.
On the tarka at the barstaple end where its very busy all maner of bikes you will see but on the dark damp rocky parts very few cyclist as its too far from civilisation so to speak, also with narrower tyres your speed would also be hampered
I use my tourer for every terrain but the tyres do suffer many nicks from the flints.
A seasoned rider would fair OK and also younger would not be phased by a odd bump or two, the OP should not be put off if they have 28's but 25's...............maybe a good tread and puncture protection would be ok but I would say be prepared for mishaps.
Mick F's already sampled these so called cycle paths on his 23's and he's not liking them.............
Me I will do anything, I find the off tarmac stuff interesting.

Re: 'Cyclists Dismount', should we?

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2014 - 2:20pm
I think it would be unusual - as in extremely unlikely - that a highway authority would put up a sign of the wrong design. This is because the road plan specifies the diagram number as in TRSGD. They don't specify say, a "no cycling" sign and then leave that to somebody else's artistic licence. NB I'm not saying that the wrong diagram is not specified, or that signs are not left in place long after a road layout has been altered.) IIME non-compliant signs are much more likely to be found on private property eg supermarket car parks.

Re: Devon C2C

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 August 2014 - 2:09pm
Ive done the Tarka trail on 25mm and 28mm tyres. Its bumpy but do-able, you just need to be alert and steer around the largest rocks/holes.

Re: Ten Miles a Day

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 August 2014 - 2:06pm
Hi,
Well I am hovering at 13m/day and I am not sure If I will improve on it that much, ride today puts me down to 79 % Max HR so winter is coming

Re: Devon C2C

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 August 2014 - 2:02pm
Hi,
On honesty's map showing a short cut below peter tavy which goes from the A386 above Tavistock to the cross roads at Moor Shop B3357, Tavistock to Princetown road.
I got this wrong I was thinking of the short cut that goes east of peter tavy which leads to Lower Godsworthy and linked to Higher Godsworthy via a farm track which is actually a bridle path on the map but you could easily drive your car along it it.
This short cut avoiding Tavistock honesty's route and mine further east which brings you out on Pork hill 2/3rds of the way up.
Its out of the way for a c2c ride and is actually (mine) a rather adventurous hilly ball breaking detour , sorry to confuse.
I need also to check the other part, well I have, and mentioned an off road bit between Mary tavy & Peter Tavy this also is one of my gravel track routes which I often use as it more interesting, I dont think that it is on the route at all sorry again.
Anyone wanting an adventure may like to use the bridle path between Mary and Peter Tavy going south and at the end is a Pub
The godsworthy route is also a bridle path but a wide track, both you can do on a road bike in the dry with say 32 mm tyres and I have seen road bikes on the Mary tavy bridle path which makes me remember the horrified riders who were blastpheming that it was a cycle route
I need to check that part again............

To do the C2C your need 32 mm at a minimum if you plan the Tarka & Drakes trails I.M.O. as I have done it on 37's and it was a bit bumpy, though I was traveling faster than your usually sunday riders
Mick F would probably be ejected out of his brooks If he did the Tarka or even Clearbrook part of Drakes trail
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