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Re: touring on a trad touring bike?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 8 January 2016 - 4:53pm
willem jongman wrote:I use drop bars on a gravel grinder with wide and fast 26 inch tyres. I think it is perfect for anything short of truly demanding off road riding. But for that I would want suspension as well. So my bike handles tarmac, gravel roads and forest trails with ease, and I think it is the perfect compromise for tours in Europe. I normally take only rear panniers, but on a recent trip combining business with pleasure I also had to take front panniers, and that was fine too (other than heavier). Brakes are Magura HS66 hydraulic rim brakes and they are powerful enough. V brakes with the Tektro v brake levers for drop bars are also fine, according to friends who have used them (but only with bar end or downtube shifters, of course). In short, there is sweet spot in between the two styles of tractor bikes and traditional British tourers.

Is this because of the smaller wheel size or the bike's ability to take much larger tyre?

Re: touring on a trad touring bike?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 8 January 2016 - 4:38pm
reohn2 wrote:al_yrpal wrote:My steel Salsa Vaya begins to struggle with a touring load and camping gear on the road
Have you fitted a decent steel Tubus rack on it yet?



I'll second that. A lot of wobbling and flexing frames are actually just a rack swinging back and forth - something I discovered early on in our business when following customers. Some frames can tank-slap with a flexi rack but feel just fine with something really solid.

Re: touring on a trad touring bike?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 8 January 2016 - 4:28pm
al_yrpal wrote:My steel Salsa Vaya begins to struggle with a touring load and camping gear on the road
Have you fitted a decent steel Tubus rack on it yet?

and its just about ok on smooth surface off road unloaded.
That I find hard to believe,I have two Vaya's that I ride off road on some pretty technical stuff and rough stuff,on slicks(one on 37c and one on 40c Hypers)and they take such terrain in there stride without issue.

It wouldnt be suitable for a camping trip that involved off road riding
That would depend on a few things,not least the amount of weight you expect to carry and how it's distributed on the bike.
If all of a heavy load is on the rear you'll struggle with any bike and whilst IMHO a Vaya can't be described as a heavy duty/expedition tourer,it's certainly a capable load carrier.
A quick google will challenge your findings.

. I never rode my Galaxy with camping gear on a tour but I dont think it would be ideal. It was a lively twitchy steed.
Another statement I find hard to take,I had a '97(last of the UK built 531ST) Galaxy for 15years that I toured on with a camping load and light loads,as well as using as my main winter bike.
I'd never describe a Galaxy as twitchy or lively,stable and solid,would be like the words that spring to mind.
Edited for typos.

Re: Cuba: - You’ll love it or hate it

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 8 January 2016 - 4:26pm
Linda13 wrote:Will it be possible to catch the bus back from Pinar to Havana with my bike?
On Viazul aka the foreigners' bus, I expect it's possible to catch the bus to Havana but you may well have problems trying to put a bike through the luggage system if you wanted to catch a bus from Havana. The Trinidad-Havana bus I travelled on even picked up and dropped off some cargo along the way - I'm not entirely convinced that was official, though. As usual with Cuba, it probably depends a lot on the staff on at a particular time (and it always helps if you speak Spanish), so if possible, have alternative, contingency and emergency plans ready...

http://wikitravel.org/en/Cuba#By_bike says "You have to arrange a personal agreement with the driver however, who will expect a little bonus in return. It is also possible to take bikes on trains and even to hitch with bikes"

I have no experience of the Astro or local buses.

Re: Coventry and Kenilworth

CTC Forum - On the road - 8 January 2016 - 4:17pm
ah, afraid I can't really help then.....last time I went near that path I sunk.

Re: Most Annoying and Potentially Dangerous Motoring Manoeuv

CTC Forum - On the road - 8 January 2016 - 4:16pm
Swerving around all over the place, without giving anyone a warning, including but not limited to, pulling out from parked position, parking, turning into a junction, turning out of a junction, swerving around a roundabout.

This is usually called not indicating.

Re: Coventry and Kenilwort

CTC Forum - On the road - 8 January 2016 - 4:15pm
Si wrote:Do you mean tourist sites or cycle infrastructure?
Yes I won't have ever such a lot of time though and I'll have an awkward-to-lock-up bike with me, which I suspect probably rules out tourist sites other than viewpoints.

Re: London black taxi driver ‘used car as weapon to ram cycl

CTC Forum - On the road - 8 January 2016 - 4:06pm
has this charmers case finished yet ? Whats the verdict ?

Re: London black taxi driver ‘used car as weapon to ram cycl

CTC Forum - On the road - 8 January 2016 - 3:52pm
iviehoff wrote:karlt wrote:It's not the CPS. The bar for attempted murder isnintent to kill. Not doing something that could kill. The intent has to be to kill. This is higher than the intent bar for murder, that only requires intent to cause severe injury.
If you do something that did not intend to kill, but was something that could be reasonably foreseen to be life endangering, the charge would be manslaughter, not murder. You can't be charged with "attempted manslaughter" because with no intent there can be no attempt. So ABH is the appropriate charge in such circumstances. It is far from the only case where the resulting charge is related to luck. For example, the difference between dangerous driving and causing death by DD, is largely down to luck.

You can be charged with murder if the victim dies as long as you intended to do serious harm. The specific intent to kill is only required for attempted murder, not actual murder.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_in_English_law - "Murder is an offence under the common law of England and Wales. It is considered the most serious form of homicide, in which one person kills another with the intention to unlawfully cause either death or serious injury."

I agree with the rest of your post. I have often mused as to how fair it is that the luck element is so significant in driving offences. Consider two scenarios:

1. Driver misses seeing approaching vehicle as preparing to pull out despite looking, perhaps because oncoming vehicle is hidden in a seccade (q.v.). Driver of oncoming vehicle dies.
2. Driver impressing his mates, drives like a lunatic, wrong side of road, overtaking on white lines, but no collision ensues. Picked up by Dibble seeing erratic driving.

The first will be down for a Death by Careless Driving charge (potentially), the latter for Dangerous Driving. Who will get the higher penalty? Should they? It's an ethical minefield.

Re: Most Annoying and Potentially Dangerous Motoring Manoeuv

CTC Forum - On the road - 8 January 2016 - 3:44pm
Reversing out of driveways.

Re: Vanmoof Boncho - reinventing the cape

CTC Forum - On the road - 8 January 2016 - 3:35pm
I still have my old heavy yellow cape. I dont use it these days , mainly as I ride light road bikes with faster groups , but I was still using my touring bike up until 10 years ago and if you have a carrier or saddle bag its still a good option as

1) You can put it on or take it off in about 5 - 10 secs great if rain stops and starts
2) You dont get sweaty and it keeps bottom half dry as well generally

If you are going to tour all day in the rain like in Western Scotland they are the best IMO


It has to be very windy for it to be an issue

The modern lighter capes blow all over the place and do not keep there shape

In the late 40s my father toured the continent and then you used your cape in cold conditions , to sleep on in barns, to sit on when eating

They were incredibly hard wearing. Mine is 45 years old and I took it to school everyday for 10 years and I am not good at looking after things

Re: Most Annoying and Potentially Dangerous Motoring Manoeuv

CTC Forum - On the road - 8 January 2016 - 3:21pm
I agree and to add insult to injury, even though the other person is in the wrong, they glare at you!

Re: touring on a trad touring bike?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 8 January 2016 - 2:55pm
bigjim wrote:but the biggest groups of cycletourists are from Germany and Holland - both countries where you'll rarely see a drop-barred tourer. Culture thing in my opinion. Both countries are heavily into utility cycling from birth. It's part of their life and flat bars are all they have ever known, so it's perfectly rational to transfer this to touring cycles.

Of course, just as their decline in the UK is down to a generation knowing nothing but mountainbikes.

Re: Most Annoying and Potentially Dangerous Motoring Manoeuv

CTC Forum - On the road - 8 January 2016 - 2:47pm
Mark1978 wrote:Quite simply the looking straight at you at a junction and then pulling out anyway. People do that to me all the time, on the bike and in the car. So much so that I'm pretty much expecting them to do it.
Yeah you've made eye contact so naturally you are going to give way

Re: Coventry and Kenilwort

CTC Forum - On the road - 8 January 2016 - 2:43pm
Do you mean tourist sites or cycle infrastructure?

Re: Cuba: - You’ll love it or hate it

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 8 January 2016 - 2:25pm
I'm back from 3 weeks cycling in the East. My partner and I loved this trip. Amazing scenery, wonderful people, so many quirks. The OP said the route was doable in two weeks - we took 3 and would have liked longer so we could have enjoyed more time in towns and villages. Food and water was difficult to find and a bit repetitive. We both lost weight (which we were grateful for).

I always felt safe and bumped into several other tourers, some of whom were loving every minute and others who felt like they were in hell. Temperatures hovered around 30C and the humidity was almost at saturation.

We flew from Gatwick to Havana with Virgin( bikes free of charge) in December for £800 each.

Casas Particulares cost between 20 and 30 CUC per night for the room and many rooms could sleep 3. most cost 25CUC. 1 CUC = $1 US.

We budgeted for $50 per day between us. Occasionally we spent $10 on water alone. There was an outbreak of Cholera in Baracoa when we were there so tried to get bottled water as often as we could though we used sterilisation tablets as well.

I'll be writing about our trip shortly so will post pics and words over the next month and happy to answer questions.

We enjoy off-road trips and although this was mostly on roads, their condition was often so poor it was as much fun as riding off-road.

This is the must have book for anyone thinking of cycling in Cuba. Even though it's a few years old, it's packed with useful information and detailed guides and route information. http://www.bicyclingcuba.com/

Re: touring on a trad touring bike?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 8 January 2016 - 2:15pm
but the biggest groups of cycletourists are from Germany and Holland - both countries where you'll rarely see a drop-barred tourer. Culture thing in my opinion. Both countries are heavily into utility cycling from birth. It's part of their life and flat bars are all they have ever known, so it's perfectly rational to transfer this to touring cycles.

Re: Cuba: - You’ll love it or hate it

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 8 January 2016 - 1:56pm
Linda13 wrote:I will be travelling to Cuba in Feb for 4 weeks, I am particularly interested to know of any cycle routes to the west for Havana, out towards Vinales and Pinar del Rio. I will be taking my own tourer. Will it be possible to catch the bus back from Pinar to Havana with my bike? Can anyone advise me on maps? Also general advice would be helpful.

I'm travelling there from mid Feb for six weeks but heading east and making my way back to Havana, there are cycle routes to east and west of Havana that people follow, but I'll leave up to the people on this thread to inform you, If they don't let me know.

FS Genesis Day One Decade 2016 SS Cx full bike XL/60cm

CTC Forums - Bikes For Sale - 8 January 2016 - 1:28pm
http://www.genesisbikes.co.uk/bikes/urb ... one-decade

I have this bike to sell in a size XL/60cm. It is built up and brand new, never even seen the road. It does however have different tires to the Clements that come with this bike as standard. It will have some used Gatorskins instead.

This has an RRP of £699 - i'll take £450 posted or £390 local collection in Bristol/Somerset .

Please pm if keen.
Categories: Go Cycling

Re: Vanmoof Boncho - reinventing the cape

CTC Forum - On the road - 8 January 2016 - 1:27pm
I don't like w/proof o/trousers for the same reason,so use Montane Featherlite Pants,good kit and water repllent enough to keep me dry and warm enough in all but longest of rainy days.
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