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Re: Another A38 Accident

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 September 2014 - 12:45pm
I agree you should be able to cycle any road because of course once you say no to any road it's the thin end of the wedge. I have used a short section of this road, (A38), from the Avonwick turning up to the next junction, Wrangaton, I think the main danger, apart from the rubbish at the side of the road, is when you are passing an on slip, traffic coming up is looking back the road at approaching traffic, and might easily miss a cyclist in front of them, poor driving I know but not every one pays complete attention. This happened to a friend passing the Lee Mill junction heading for the Roscof ferry years ago. A bit like helmets, (sorry), compulsion no, bot do think it through.
Cheers, Rob

Re: Advice on accident involving a dog

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 September 2014 - 12:04pm
Bit of a freak incident though really. I'd much rather that they clamped down on even 1% of acts of speeding, aggressive driving and unsafe overtaking than every dog owner who momentarily leaves a gate open.

Re: Biker's death filmed - horrific.

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 September 2014 - 12:02pm
robing wrote:The speed has everything to do with it. If he had been going a sensible speed, ie well below 60 then yes an impact could still have been fatal, but he would have had more time and may have been able to take avoiding action.

No it doesn't. Look at your use of the word "may". The fact is you don't know.

What you and I both know is that if the driver had looked properly he wouldn't have pulled into the bikes path. That is fundamentally all that we do know anything else is pure speculation.
robing wrote:but just put yourself in their shoes, are you positive you would have seen the biker in that situation? Obviously I'd like to think I would, I certainly have never pulled into the path of anyone in several decades of driving - probably helps using most modes of transport instead of simply being a cager. Who knows...

Re: Biker's death filmed - horrific.

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 September 2014 - 11:53am
Both of their actions were clearly criminal.

The car driver's was a crime of negligence; getting complacent and failing to look properly resulting in the death of a motorcyclist. I maintain that the car driver was the one mainly responsible for this crash.

The motorcyclists was a crime of arrogance. He knew the law, he will have been told his entire life about the dangers of speeding yet made a conscious decision to do it. The attitude was "the law does not apply to me" or "it won't happen to me...". This attitude possibly resulted in his own death.

Others have been critical of what they see as personal attacks on the deceased because of a video released so that other road users can learn from the incident. I think that in order for those in most need to learn from the actions of the motorcyclist the attitude which is required to perform those actions must be criticised. People who choose to speed and behave that recklessly know what they are doing. They know it is illegal and they know it is dangerous and yet they still choose to do it. No doubt they believe that their skills are such that they are immune from crashing. We've had years of graphic campaigns showing these people that speed kills and it doesn't work. What needs to be challenged is the attitude that this is macho, fun and socially acceptable. In Tony's terms it means making clear to these people that their actions are selfish and idiotic in the eyes of society and (hopefully) their peers.

Re: Biker's death filmed - horrific.

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 September 2014 - 11:43am
kwackers wrote:robing wrote:I don't see what's wrong in calling him a selfish idiot- he was. Thank god he didn't kill anyone else with his dangerous riding. Did you see the state of the car after the collision? It's lucky they weren't killed too. Also, a lot of people seem to be missing the point that 60 is a maximum - approaching a junction like this his speed should have been much less and he overtook a vehicle where clearly overtaking was forbidden.
Here's a question for you.
What do you think the speed has to do with anything?

Here's my take. The speed simply reduced the chances of him surviving, it made little or no difference to the cause of the accident which was simply that once again a motorist didn't bother looking. Had he been doing 60mph would he have survived? He might, but I suspect probably not.

The fundamental cause of the accident was someone not looking - you might disagree, the court on hearing the evidence didn't.

(That's not to say his riding wasn't stupid but pulling into the path of another vehicle is criminal).

The speed has everything to do with it. If he had been going a sensible speed, ie well below 60 then yes an impact could still have been fatal, but he would have had more time and may have been able to take avoiding action.

Yes I know the court found the car driver guilty and they were punished accordingly, but with a motorcycle at that speed it may have been difficult to actually see it or appreciate how fast it was coming head on. I'm not excusing the driver, but just put yourself in their shoes, are you positive you would have seen the biker in that situation?

Re: Advice on accident involving a dog

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 September 2014 - 11:35am
661-Pete wrote:Having said that, it might be a bit harsh to press charges against an owner who evidently made a genuine mistake.
The old argument. Car driver kills cyclist, but it was a genuine mistake: it might be a bit harsh to press charges against a driver who made a genuine mistake. Nuclear power station melts down, but it was a genuine mistake: it might be a bit harsh to make the operators responsible for a genuine mistake.

People have to be made responsible for their genuine mistakes, it is the only way we make people realise that they have to take steps to prevent mistakes that damage others.

Re: knee pain and touring

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 9 September 2014 - 10:58am
Stretching and exercises should help - get a copy of Knee Health asap. If you use clipless, maybe set them to allow more float?

I have had a dodgy knee for years but two things have helped enormously: a regular ten-minute stretching and exercise regime, and using shorter cranks. I'm 5'6" and used 170mm for most of of my adult life, but switching to 160mm (Spa XD) has made a massive difference.

Unfortunately you don't have much time left, and depending on your age you may be risking long-term damage if you persist. I'd definitely consult a sports physio if you can find one.

Re: Advice on accident involving a dog

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 September 2014 - 10:42am
karlt wrote:In this case, the owner has admitted they left the gate open when they went to feed next door's cat.
To the dog?

Re: Advice on accident involving a dog

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 September 2014 - 10:41am
In this case, the owner has admitted they left the gate open when they went to feed next door's cat.

Re: Solo night ride

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 September 2014 - 10:38am
Garmin and night riding. I have found that if pre-planning the route, The best way is to upload a track and way points and not a route, To the way points add a proximety alarm, use these at Junctions where you need to take action.
Proximety points you can set the notification to any distance you want I normally use 200 ft and add simple text such as turn right or might be RAB second exit.

Re: knee pain and touring

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 9 September 2014 - 10:34am
A bit of a cry for help here.

I've been increasing my ride distances and frequency over the last 6 months. I currently try and get out every 4-5 days and do something like 40-65 miles. In the last 6 weeks or so I've experienced very bad knee pain, only the left one, just above and just below the patella. It starts within a few miles of setting off, twinges a few times during the ride, then after the ride it is very painful for the rest of the day, almost seizing up. It then takes 2-3 days to get back to normal. I've found ibuprofen gel helps ease the problem a bit. I've also applied as much advice as I can glean from these forums - moving saddle height/position, high cadence and low effort etc.

The 'cry for help' stems from the fact that 2 weeks today I set off to do a JOGLE - 14 days of 60+ miles and I'm very worried that my knee isn't going to get beyond 2 days. I think the long term solution is probably a physio and careful exercising - I suspect I've increased my training too abruptly and too quickly and my muscles are out of balance. But what can I do to maximise the chances of completing the E2E?

Re: Advice on accident involving a dog

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 September 2014 - 10:08am
I agree it is a civil issue. I agree that OP may also have broken the law (but not in a serious manner).

And it is not necessarily the home owner who is always at fault (I don't know enough details in this case). I have two active complaints, one against a meter reading company and another against a courier company who opened my gate to enter my property and then left a few moments later leaving the gate open. And had I not noticed, my dog would have been roaming the streets. When people visit your property things are not always under the control of the homeowner (and I do have a specific 3rd party insurance policy for my dog, just in case).

Ian

Re: Advice on accident involving a dog

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 September 2014 - 10:00am
There's a lot of confusing civil and criminal law here. All this quoting of the law is about criminal offences. That's nothing to do with pursuing a legal claim for damages, which is a civil matter, and depends upon proving negligence. Not hard; the gate was left open. Open and shut case; claim against the owner's liability insurance (usually part of their home contents). The dog owner will have to inform her insurers; if she doesn't, you will have to get solicitors to initiate proceedings. None of this has anything to do with criminal offences under the dangerous dogs act, or indeed any other criminal legislation.

The owner may be guilty of a criminal offence as well, but that has little or no bearing on your civil case.

Re: Solo night ride

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 September 2014 - 9:24am
It's not cars that would worry me so much as road surfaces. I cycle in the dark in the winter but it's on familiar roads.

Re: Biker's death filmed - horrific.

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 September 2014 - 9:20am
robing wrote:I don't see what's wrong in calling him a selfish idiot- he was. Thank god he didn't kill anyone else with his dangerous riding. Did you see the state of the car after the collision? It's lucky they weren't killed too. Also, a lot of people seem to be missing the point that 60 is a maximum - approaching a junction like this his speed should have been much less and he overtook a vehicle where clearly overtaking was forbidden.
Here's a question for you.
What do you think the speed has to do with anything?

Here's my take. The speed simply reduced the chances of him surviving, it made little or no difference to the cause of the accident which was simply that once again a motorist didn't bother looking. Had he been doing 60mph would he have survived? He might, but I suspect probably not.

The fundamental cause of the accident was someone not looking - you might disagree, the court on hearing the evidence didn't.

(That's not to say his riding wasn't stupid but pulling into the path of another vehicle is criminal).

Re: Biker's death filmed - horrific.

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 September 2014 - 9:05am
I don't see what's wrong in calling him a selfish idiot- he was. Thank god he didn't kill anyone else with his dangerous riding. Did you see the state of the car after the collision? It's lucky they weren't killed too. Also, a lot of people seem to be missing the point that 60 is a maximum - approaching a junction like this his speed should have been much less and he overtook a vehicle where clearly overtaking was forbidden.

Re: Advice on accident involving a dog

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 September 2014 - 8:57am
irc wrote:661-Pete wrote:You might as well be aware of the relevant section of the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 (for England and Wales):
3 Keeping dogs under proper control.
(1)If a dog is dangerously out of control in a public place—
(a)the owner; and
(b)if different, the person for the time being in charge of the dog,
is guilty of an offence, or, if the dog while so out of control injures any person, an aggravated offence, under this subsection.
A dog which runs out into the street endangering a road user is 'dangerously out of control': no argument.

I'd argue. The act was intended to deal with dogs biting people not stray dogs causing accidents. Show me one example where anyone has been convicted under the Dangerous Dogs Act for a stray dog causing an accident.

1. Overview
It’s against the law to let a dog be dangerously out of control anywhere, eg:

in a public place
in a private place (eg a neighbour’s house or garden)
in the owner’s home
The law applies to all dogs. (my bold)

https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public/overview

Some types of dogs are banned.

Out of control
Your dog is considered dangerously out of control if it:

injures someone
makes someone worried that it might injure them
A court could also decide that your dog is dangerously out of control if:

it injures someone’s animal
the owner of the animal thinks they could be injured if they tried to stop your dog attacking their animal

However the owner may be covered by home insurance.

Re: Another A38 Accident

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 September 2014 - 6:39am
Erudin wrote:The websites linked below are worth a look, especially the maps so you can see where accidents in your area have occurred. Looking at the A38 near Lee Mill I can see two cyclist fatalities and a cyclist seriously injured between 2000-2010.


From that map it looks like they should "actively discourage" all traffic from that road. OTOH. It doesn't seem to stand out from many of the other roads so there seems no reason to discourage cyclists from using it.

Re: Advice on accident involving a dog

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 September 2014 - 3:55am
In any case the OP would like compensating for his losses and that is a civil matter
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