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Re: Why do we do it?

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 September 2014 - 8:09am
Thirdcrank makes a good point: we shouldn't be using 'we' here - except in the royal sense! It amounts to one person who happens to be cycling, witnessing another who also happens to be cycling. Nothing else in common.

I don't venture very often into the metropolis, but it so happened I was cycling in Brighton a few days ago. Approaching one of the city's busiest and most notorious junctions (Preston Circus), I found myself in the company of two other cyclists. I and one other stopped at the red lights; the third didn't. She didn't get very far though, she reached the actual junction itself (the traffic lights are set a few yards back) and then commonsense prevailed and she waited for the crossing traffic. I remarked to my erstwhile companion "She didn't gain much did she?". He launched into a brief, bitter homily about the shortcomings of some young whippersnappers on bikes, "letting us all down", etc. etc.

So was this law-abiding middle-aged bloke, waiting alongside me, one of 'us', whereas the RLJing young lady wasn't? I think this is a generalisation too far.

I suppose - we (ok I'll use 'we' here) feel embarrassed because we feel vulnerable: we know that some motorists get angry, and it only takes one idiot at the wheel to 'take it out' in a revenge pass on a completely innocent person.

Re: Why do we do it?

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 September 2014 - 7:29am
The thread title assumes that cyclists are a species with shared behaviour. "We" includes "me" and I don't do it and I'm not unique, even if the behaviour of some is more noticeable.

I suspect "they" do it because it suits their convenience - often because traffic lights are operated for the convenience of motor traffic rather than cyclists - and they don't anticipate enforcement. I also suspect that there's a generation of cyclists of which many of the members believe that traffic lights do not apply to them.

(And on [xap]Bob's theme, the same explanation probably applies to a lot of traffic offending.)

Re: Why do we do it?

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 September 2014 - 7:09am
Do you feel embarrassed whenever you see a speeding motorist? You should.

Why do we do it?

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 September 2014 - 6:44am
Driving through our local town yesterday and watched a cyclist in road gear just ride through the red lights, didn't even look round to see who was watching and just weaved through the traffic.

I was tempted to wind down my window and let him know my feelings but !!.

Why do we do it, we are giving the anti-cycling brigade all the ammunition they need, never a policeman about when you need one!!

I somehow felt embarrassed, can you believe that!! Would love to know his logic.

Re: New Route Planner

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 10 September 2014 - 4:07am

There are some dry lakes in Switserland. See also my posting on the OpenStreetMap forum.

Re: Do you ride out of the saddle?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 10 September 2014 - 1:01am
Only when I'm setting off from a standstill, if the hill is steep enough that sitting wont do it but short enough that the extra effort required wont kill me or when my rear end needs a break.

Funnily enough, I just remembered an article in a mountain bike magazine years ago where the author suggested that (cross country) mountain bikers were getting lazy and spending too much time in the saddle

Re: Do you ride out of the saddle?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 9 September 2014 - 10:29pm
No never.
I ride a recumbent, so standing up is impossible .......

Re: Ditching my Hybrid for a full Spec Tourer

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 9 September 2014 - 9:16pm
do know why u just dont tour on your Specialized Globe City 3.1. looks good enough for the job? Unlike racing bikes touring bikes are more a purpose than a design?

Re: Another A38 Accident

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 September 2014 - 9:09pm
It's not the safest road for sure. I've seen quite a few accidents. People happily bombing along at 100mph mixed up with tractors. There was the bloke standing in the road at dusk to direct drivers around his broken down car, totally oblivious to the fact that he was virtually invisible. A car over took me and the kids coming back from the cinema a couple of months ago in heavy rain and we saw him flipped upside down on the verge a couple of minutes later. Then there's the slip road that is also access to the service station, some plonker pulled out in front of me, I was in the slip road. from the service station to get back onto the carriageway the other day.

I'm trying to say that I drive it in my solid metal box with caution and I don't plan on cycling it any day soon although I have cycled similarly unappealing roads on tour when given no choice. In this instance the accident didn't take place close to a slip road or in bad weather ( I know as I was there a short time afterwards). It seems most likely to me it was driver or less likely but possibly cyclist error.

Re: knee pain and touring

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 9 September 2014 - 9:04pm
Isometric quads. exercises....https://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=ie7&q=isometric+quads+strengthening&rls=com.microsoft:en-GB:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7SUNC_enGB402&gfe_rd=cr&ei=a2UPVITyA4GX-Ab61oCgDg&gws_rd=ssl.....the first one up is a bit academic, 2,3 & 4 seem OK.
If your foot is held at the "wrong" angle (by cleats, random features of shoes/pedals) you will get knee discomfort.....you will also get knee discomfort if problems with either the ankle or the hip joints (or over-pronation, etc.) mean that the knee is forced to do anything other than a straight hinge motion, or if you habitually pedal with your knees sticking out to the sides.

Re: Another Day In The Life Of cyclist

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 September 2014 - 8:50pm
Dropped daughter to school, cycled to client's office, worked all day, cycled back to school, rode home with daughter, cooked dinner.

Re: Advice on accident involving a dog

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 September 2014 - 8:39pm
gaz wrote:But it then goes on
(2) In this section “designated road” means a length of road specified by an order in that behalf of the local authority in whose area the length of road is situated.
With the next parts explaining how a road becomes a "designated road", s27 only applies to "designated roads" not all roads.

Yes but designated roads can be all roads. See for example Newham which designates "all Highways footpaths and verges and alleyways across the borough of Newham and areas listed below"

Re: New Route Planner

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 9 September 2014 - 8:10pm
andrew_s wrote:Do I assume that the traffic data is the most recent available from some government source, rather than using the live phone tracking data that shows up on Google Maps?Yep, exactly that.

jamesgilbert wrote:As there seems to be no limit to what you can do, it would be nice if there was a link to the ferry details (for the Oban to Fort William example on your website), in the route directions...That's a brilliant idea. Will try and work that in.

andrew_s wrote:The next step would be to ask for a time/day of week to avoid roads that were busy at commuting time, but fairly quiet otherwise sore thumb wrote:Is there anyway to put in my average speed so the planner removes slow routes but keep me off the 'main busy road sections' ?Have to admit there is a limit to what I can do and it's that...!

Essentially all the routes are precomputed. This takes ages (12 hours for Western Europe) and lots of memory (128GB to precompute, then 16GB-ish permanently in memory for the router) but means that the response time is blisteringly fast - that's what enables dragging the route around, Google-style.

The corollary of that is that there's one routing profile. To have different preferences (e.g. less towpath), or different times of day, would mean another 16GB (and another 12 hours) for each possible variation. I think Google probably have enough servers for that but I don't! Also the 128GB server absolutely deafens me for the 12 hours that's it's running.

If you don't like the route it's chosen for you, you can drag it onto another road - the total mileage updates as you do that. I'm aware the estimated times are a little conservative at the moment and I'm planning to put in an option so you can say how fast you cycle - i.e. so it says 1hr30 for a 23-mile route rather than 2hr30, if you see what I mean. But do have a play around with dragging the route.

Re: Advice on accident involving a dog

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 September 2014 - 8:02pm
A guy in CTC Derby got knocked of by a farm dog while out on a club run a few years ago. Claimed his out of pocket expenses, including a new frame, with the CTCs insurers.

Re: 700c wheels in India?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 9 September 2014 - 7:58pm
I would have thought it was easier to work with a limited choice of bikes here than buy a 700c bike and find nothing there

Re: knee pain and touring

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 9 September 2014 - 7:51pm
531colin wrote:"skicat"...
Straight-leg isometric quads. exercises will tone up the Vastus Medialis very quickly, this would be my preferred option over taping, and can do no harm at all.
I don't know what 'Straight-leg isometric quads' are. Googling brings up a number of articles/Youtube vids, none of which seem to agree with each other. Do you have a link to what you have in mind?

531colin wrote:I find stretching beneficial.....stretching after exercise means I am less stiff next morning, but you should relax into the stretch, not use it as (another) form of competition, eg see how low you can go. God alone knows what extreme form of stretching would damage the Achilles tendon.....ever watched a high-jumper? that tendon is the thing that launches them.
If riding alone, I would stop, stretch, and self-massage as soon as the knee started hurting.....with the leg straight and the muscles relaxed, just gently move the knee-cap around....practice on the un-injured leg.
Ok, I can do that.

531colin wrote:I rode for maybe 40 years with clips and straps, and I wouldn't give up my SPDs for anybody. Despite what the SPD-haters say, there is more float in SPDs (etc) than in flat pedals, and it really is FREE float. Random ridges on rubber soled shoes will hold your foot at a "wrong" angle, set SPD cleats precisely so the "right" foot angle is "in the middle" of the float and the system is much better. In the old days of nail-on shoe plates http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/components/shoeplates-components.html I had to file out the slot like a trumpet-mouth so my foot could move.
Set your saddle as this thread http://forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=74985, use low gears, also short cranks if you are short-legged.
I don't use cleats or clips. I tried some non-strapped clips a few months ago but found they gave me pins and needles in the toes so took them off again. I have rat-trap type pedals and wear stiff outdoor shoes which have quite a pronounced tread. This means my feet don't slide about on the pedals but I agree that it may also mean I may not be able to get my feet into exactly the right position in the first place. Having said that, the ball of my foot is over the pedal centre and aside from the knee, I don't notice any other discomfort.

We addressed the bike-fit question in this thread.

Re: knee pain and touring

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 9 September 2014 - 7:42pm
Psamathe wrote:I'd suggest seeing a physio. Privately they can often fit you in pretty quickly (given your timescales) and they don't cost much (the ones I see occasionally cost around £35 for appointment). Whenever I've had to see a physio they have seen me next day; and given your 2 weeks timescale I suspect they could fit you in pretty quickly.
Ok, sounds like a good plan. I only have one experience of visiting a physio, and that was after spannering my lower back lifting paving slabs ( , I know, I know...) I was supposed to be getting on a plane to Canada the next day and could hardly walk. The physio got me up and about in the space of an hour, well enough for the flight, so I do have a bit of faith in their craft. I'll make some enquiries tomorrow.

Re: Do you ride out of the saddle?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 9 September 2014 - 7:41pm
If I stand to relieve bum pressure, it's always on an incline in a higher gear than I'd use seated, but while trying not to work any harder. I figure that the muscles will recover their shape faster if being used. But that's very much distinct from standing to climb, where I'd be putting extra effort in.

Re: Do you ride out of the saddle?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 9 September 2014 - 7:35pm
Psamathe wrote:I will often coast along standing on the pedals out of the saddle to relieve bum pressure, allow some air movement and stretch a bit.

I do this a lot, I don't consider it "riding out of the saddle" though.

Re: Do you ride out of the saddle?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 9 September 2014 - 7:35pm
No, you're correct. I should have written "pedal out of the saddle"
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