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Re: Quick ride out...

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 3:58pm
And then you woke up...

Re: Quick ride out...

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 3:56pm
A lot of my rides are like that. They simply arent newsworthy, or forum-worthy, I suppose (though I have, now, uploaded some incident-free footage on youtube).

I'm curious as to how you carried two wheels to the LBS. Trailer?

Re: Cycling snobbery!

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 1:57pm
Another thing to add - although I say this with considerable trepidation. One of the persons who behaved in a most unpleasant manner towards me, is fairly well-known in the cycling scene. He organises group rides on a big scale. And he's a member of this forum I believe. If that individual recognises himself from this post, feel free to answer me.

Re: Not your usual "Cyclists Dismount" sign!

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 1:33pm
However I would to some extent stand by the comment that Welsh is not a 'good' living language. I speak good German (having lived in Germany) and would say the same about German, it is nowhere near as flexible as English as it often lacks the ability to add or develop new words (its long compound words are hilarious - try Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz. And unlike English the German language 'authorities' suffer a great deal of angst about how many English words are added to German dictionaries every year (see what I did there?). Frankly if Welsh was a really good living language it wouldn't have declined so much in the first place.

Do you think there might be an itsy-bitsy bit of bias there?

As for the rise and fall of languages that is more about military prowess than linguistic prowess, think of that most frequent of English expressions "If it wasnt for [insert item of choice] we would all be speaking German now."

Re: Where is your most Ideal place to go touring?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 June 2014 - 1:28pm
If you get good weather then Iceland is fantastic.
I went around it last year.
The steepest hills are only around 17%, most are in the 7-10% range.
Once out of the southwest corner, most roads are quite.

Re: Cycling snobbery!

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 1:26pm
True again, that's happened to me a lot the overtaking scenario, even better to play with your food, hang on the wheel, do a cough / something like that, see if they speed up, hang until burned out, overtake again especially hills. Its a dog eat dog world cycling alone, but I tend to get a bit tactful on the 80 - 100 milers taking an easy pace.

Only applies to the ignorant of course

Re: Not your usual "Cyclists Dismount" sign!

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 1:24pm
Postboxer wrote:Mrs PB moved to Wales in her youth, around the age of 12-13 I think, as she was a beginner at Welsh, she was put in the bottom class for Welsh AND English! Despite her being one of the brightest in her year. Seems silly forcing people to learn Welsh if they don't want to, better to force them to learn a useful language they don't want to and with a lot more speakers, Chinese or Russian for example.

Although I'm always tempted to learn Welsh, just because Welsh speakers will never suspect I know what they're saying about me.

Nothing would please us more but it will not cure your paranoia. Or is it vanity? does anybody think we honestly have nothing better to talk about?

Sure, if we wanted to say something and not be understood we could switch to Welsh and I must admit I rather enjoy doing that in Germany just to see the confusion on their faces when they think it is their English knowledge which is fading.

Do you notice the dilemma that above posts present to us?
If we change to your language when you are present you then go and post things like "I have been to Wales and nobody speaks Welsh there, there is no need to teach it in schools" and if we keep on talking in Welsh "The rude bleeps kept talking to each other in Welsh and we didnt know what they were talking about and it made us very paranoid".

Nothing would make us happier than for somebody to make the effort to join in.

Re: Where is your most Ideal place to go touring?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 June 2014 - 1:18pm
I generally make a beeline for the same places I used to go in my fellwalking days Peak, Lakes, Dales etc. Having said that, Surrey/Sussex is a nice area I would never have dreamt of visiting as a walker. Trying to tick off all the hostels in the YHA handbook has sent me to allsorts of areas I wouldn't otherwise have considered.

Re: Innsbruck to Munich cyle route

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 June 2014 - 12:59pm
Bikeline do some excellent bike maps (http://www.esterbauer.co.uk/db_detail.p ... e=RK-BAY17 for example). You can follow the Inn all the way to Germany on a well signposted route that avoids most of the busy stretches of road (look out for the Routemaster bus at Hall IT Maccy D's!)

If you fancy something a little more adventurous there are several routes going north over the mountains into Bavaria - the ADFC site is good, some is in English (http://www.adfc.de/about-us/about-us), i use their maps which you can buy through Amazon.

Re: Not your usual "Cyclists Dismount" sign!

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 12:54pm
Postboxer wrote:Mrs PB moved to Wales in her youth, around the age of 12-13 I think, as she was a beginner at Welsh, she was put in the bottom class for Welsh AND English! Despite her being one of the brightest in her year. Seems silly forcing people to learn Welsh if they don't want to, better to force them to learn a useful language they don't want to and with a lot more speakers, Chinese or Russian for example.

Although I'm always tempted to learn Welsh, just because Welsh speakers will never suspect I know what they're saying about me.

I'd suggest that in Wales Welsh is going to be more useful than Russian.

Re: Not your usual "Cyclists Dismount" sign!

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 12:52pm
661-Pete wrote:meic wrote: I only ever learnt a few words like Yes and No...)

Try that in Welsh.
This is a trick question, is it not? (or am I thinking of Irish? I read somewhere that there are no words for 'yes' and 'no' in Irish...)
I've always found the Greek words for yes (ναί) and no (όχι) bewildering.
Incidentally, the Hungarian are Igen and Nem.

Strictly speaking there are simple words for yes and no in Welsh. They're 'ie' and 'nage'

It's just that you can only use them to answer particular kinds of questions - ones that don't start with a verb. Since most questions do, you have to answer using that verb in the negative or positive. Normally this is some part of 'bod' - 'to be', but not necessarily.

Re: Cycling snobbery!

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 12:51pm
teebee1986 wrote:I like your theory about a cyclist in training however, never thought of that.

I don't think it's a theory - it's quite easy to have your head down or there to have been a few cars passing obscuring your vision to the right or a few potholes demanding your attention before realising another cyclist is past you. It happens to everyone and statements like 'I wave to everyone..' should be qualified with '...that I see'. The point being you can't know if you missed an oncoming cyclist.

What I think is ruder is those that overtake you without even the merest hint of acknowledgment, this is rare but it happened to me on Sunday. I was so surprised I rather sardonically called a cheery 'Morning!' after him. What was better though was that, like a good many overtakees who have seen you as a target and upped their speed, once past they have to drop down to a more sedate pace and I'm often up their chuff without increasing my pace at all. So 500 yards later I was sitting nicely behind him.

I have to say I have been guilty of this but nowadays take more notice of how the bloke/bike looks and how he is riding before committing to an overtake. Sometimes of course I do the social thing and ride alongside them for a while!

Re: Where is your most Ideal place to go touring?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 June 2014 - 12:42pm
Germany - mountains if you want them, flat in the north, great cycle routes, facilities, food, not too hot in summer, nor wet and big enough to keep you occupied for years! And its pretty easy to get to

Re: BT Openreach cyclists stay back

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 12:41pm
Just spotted this example parked in our street.
Cyclists_stay_back.jpg
Sticker bang in the middle of the rear door, and it's only a small 15cwt type van.
So what's the message? Admittedly, from the position where I took this piccy, you can't see the side mirrors, so presumaby a driver couldn't have seen me. But that's true of a lot of vehicles. And the problem rests with the vehicle, not the cyclist...

Re: American looking for touring partner/s in UK or just adv

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 June 2014 - 12:39pm
I would make two suggestions, well three really, the West Coast of Scotland, the Outer Hebrides or the Pennine Cycleway from Derby to Berwick on Tweed (a signed Sustrans route). Each are from personal experience.

Speaking as an exiled southerner I'd suggest, at the danger of upsetting many(!), you will find better cycling, quieter roads, fewer people and more varied scenery in the north and Scotland.

If you want a cycle buddy for a day and do visit the north-west let me know. I can only manage a day as I'm off for two weeks in France in July.

Wherever you go use the train to get out of London and make maximum use of your time in our wonderful countryside.

Re: Cycling snobbery!

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 11:29am
Flinders wrote:teebee1986 wrote:Men forget about it,

I'm in my mid 20's, done the carbon bike thing, local team kit the works. Hated the feel of carbon, didn't like the reception of the club and the design of the kit anymore.

Went to a lovely steel frame and all plain black kit, don't really go out with the guys much now as feel uncomfortable. The last time I did (and probably the last time) the welcoming was not great, the look of horror when the carbon had disappeared and I was sporting the steeley was uncanny.

Snobbery was maximum, 1/4 the way through a club run, I snook to the back and took a sneeky left turn and enjoyed the rest of my ride and rides there after. The moral of the story is even your comrades can turn on you due to a bike type...


That's sad. Is there no other local club?
I cycle alone, I just prefer it that way, and have rarely had anyone not return a greeting. Even then, I bear in mind that someone in training for racing might be concentrating and not have seen me, whereas that's a lot less likely with a fellow slow-coach (though I wear Lycra for comfort). I always return a greeting if I see one, though once I missed one until it was too late. (other things were going on on the road).
I've exchanged greetings with a whole cycling group on one occasion, and was therefore able to warn them about a foul and slurry-puddled stretch of road ahead of them (they were strangers round here, on my map that stretch is marked out as 'the sh**ty road').
What goes around comes around.

There's another 3 if you travel far enough, that being said previously I cycled alone, it is far better I must admit. I think that's the way forward.

I like your theory about a cyclist in training however, never thought of that.

Re: Where is your most Ideal place to go touring?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 June 2014 - 11:07am
The next place I haven't been........

Re: Is this level of insanity commonplace?

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 10:45am
TonyR wrote:The one that puzzles me is the desperation to get past when there is an obvious stationary queue just ahead where you sail back past them.

Oh, that's easy. The idea that everyone hates traffic jams is rubbish. Some people love them so much that they will take any risk to reach one more quickly, and hence get a few extra seconds of enjoying the hold-up, albeit in exactly the same place in the queue as they could have found themselves anyway.

Re: Is this level of insanity commonplace?

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 10:05am
I think part of this is people not realising you can sometimes drive faster when following someone else than when out in front, especially in fog, so they catch up with you, think you're holding them up so overtake, then slow down, as they don't have a marker up the road to follow.

Re: Not your usual "Cyclists Dismount" sign!

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 9:58am
Mrs PB moved to Wales in her youth, around the age of 12-13 I think, as she was a beginner at Welsh, she was put in the bottom class for Welsh AND English! Despite her being one of the brightest in her year. Seems silly forcing people to learn Welsh if they don't want to, better to force them to learn a useful language they don't want to and with a lot more speakers, Chinese or Russian for example.

Although I'm always tempted to learn Welsh, just because Welsh speakers will never suspect I know what they're saying about me.
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