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Cheap and Cheerful 1-2 Week Getaway - Ideas?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 26 July 2015 - 12:36pm
Hi All,

I hope this finds you all well. As i have done quite a few times previously (and always got a great response) - has anyone got any ideas on tour destinations for this time of year? I have just been made redundant and think a couple of weeks on the bicycle is in order to get my mind right. To give a bit of background:- I have toured the Trans Am in the US, toured the Outer Hebrides, toured across Morocco earlier this year - so consider myself fairly competent doing around 60-100 miles a day. I like to travel with my tent, stove and amenities, so prefer OPEN country with as cheap (£10 a day ) a lifestyle as possible. Also, I am riding a King of Mercia Mercian road touring bike, so half decent standard of roads is ideal.

My initial thoughts are:

- To ride down to Dover (from my home in Greater London), jump on the ferry, and try and make it as far as I can south (cheapest suggested route preferred). Ideally making it down to a port in the southern regions of Europe to ferry my way back?

- Staying local and touring the UK (I thought touring the Outer Hebrides was just stunning), so potentially jumping on a ferry to tour Ireland, Northern Ireland and Wales?

- Getting a cheap flight (like I did for Morocco in January) to a 'CTC hidden gem' destination and gathering advice on here about a potential route? Has anyone done Romania, Bulgaria, Lithuania region?

As always, all your help and advice is gratefully received!!! I'd love to get on the road in the next few days (which I realise isn't ideal for the cheap flight option), so prompt responses would be amazing.

Thanks for your time, as always...and HAPPY TOURING!!!

Cheers,
Max

Re: Caen Normandy cycle tour route?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 26 July 2015 - 12:28pm
Hi Terry Macca

I used the BF Caen cycle route as the basis/inspiration for my tour last September but modified as follows:
Ouistreham (n), Pegasus Bridge, Beuvron en Auge, Trouville(n), Honfleur, Pont Audemer(n), Conches en Ouche(n), Rugles, St Evroult Notre Dame du Bois(n), Vimoutiers, Livarot, Le Mesnil-Durand(n), Ouistreham(n). Overnight stays denoted (n).
Unfortunately I can't give advice on campsites as I use B&Bs, wherever possible finding interesting Chambres d'Hôte (to practice my French) or small provincial hotels. Also, as you may guess from my username, I take a more leisurly approach - 7 nights - with plenty of sightseeing and pottering around - total mileage 230.

I used the late ferry to Ouistreham and so spent the first night there and similarly the last night, taking the early morning ferry back to Pompey. I took the coast road between Trouville and Honfleur (rather than BF's inland route) which I found a bit of an undulating slog (and not many views of the sea). From Honfleur (which I knew from my sailing days - very picturesque and touristy) I took the riverside cycle path along the Seine which runs under the Pont de Normandie. A very dramatic bridge which I would hardly call horrid (maybe this refered to cycling over it?) although the actual cycle path to Berville-sur-Mer I found a bit rough for my tourer bike. I enjoyed the cycle route which broadly follows the River Risle on quiet country roads and was well sign posted. The rest of the route was mainly improvised to fit in with my B&Bs and mainly through quiet rural back lanes where possible. I also followed an off-road cycle path from Vimoutiers to Livarot which was not paved (rather grassy I seem to recall) but OK for my bike.

I'm sure you and your son are younger and fitter than me but I feel that attempting this for a first tour, especially camping and with mountain bikes, is very ambitious.
Previously I have also done Ouistreham, Pegasus, Arromanches, Bayeux, Carentan, St Mere Eglise, St Vaast and Cherbourg and I agree with al-yrpal that this would make an interesting trip if your can alter your return ferry booking.

I've also done a modified version of BF's St Malo round trip which you may wish to consider next time!!

Re: visit the south of england with my family

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 26 July 2015 - 11:55am
Hello thank you for these renseignements.milles excuses j was out of internet thus impossible to answer you, saddened.
We wish to make maxi 600km with one made uneven not too high all the same
We wish to make of the natural and cultural bike has the time. To see landscapes you of the villages authentic with a buckle(loop) thus has to leave Dover or to ailleur if you find l more interesting idea. Very happy to read you a traveler has bike

Re: have bicycle will travel?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 26 July 2015 - 11:34am
mercalia wrote:some times u want to smile?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33667451

I fully expect to be in that queue on the European Bike Express coach in a few weeks from now. I admire the French for many things, but not the way they conduct industrial disputes. They attack the innocent. Oh well, we have to take these things in our stride, I suppose.

Re: Motorists' visibility mark II

CTC Forum - On the road - 26 July 2015 - 9:27am
Phil Fouracre wrote:Funny, not really given it much thought, I've always done it wherever I park, just because it makes sense, and much easier to get out in traffic. Upside was always, easier to get the shopping out of the boot! Best parking I see on a regular basis is at the local tip, where they have a herringbone setup. Seen people manoeuvre 135 degrees, with difficulty, to park, then unload rubbish from boot and carry it around the car, then repeat in reverse. Apparently it provides endless entertainment for the staff!
So they turn 135 degrees to park forward?!

Then have to perform magic to get out - after scraping their rubbish past the car?!

That's hilarious, youtube would love it...

Although I suppose it might e sensible for some cars

Re: 10 days in August. Where should I go?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 26 July 2015 - 12:07am
We found the guidebook great, in conjunction with the Brittany cycling website and I plan journeys with cycle.travel .

We went Portsmouth – St Malo, and then caught the small boat across La Ranche to Dinard, from where we followed the old railway line south from the centre of town. We stayed in Airbnb accommodation throughout (one of our group is a very organised American) and all of it was very good, some luxuriously good – not sure how this would be for solo travellers, although some of it was traditional B&B-type accommodation, we were a group of 6. I think the most we paid was 74 euros per couple, but most was less than this, sometimes a lot less. If you’re able to take camping gear this will give you lot of flexibility because there are sites all over, or plan to stay several nights in two or three places and then cycle out on day rides – the pleasure of cycling but without the luggage every day. Spent week in Gouarec the other year at the campsite by the Nantes – Brest canal, basic but pleasant, run by someone from UK, and we did day rides, very enjoyable. You can get stung as a single person in hotels and B&B – I cycled back from Tuscany to Grenoble last summer, no pre-booked accommodation and some of the prices were steep, but always able to find somewhere. Tourist information offices always helpful and happy to phone to get you into accommodation – easiest thing to do when arriving in strange place and some have up-to-date list of vacancies. We ate too well and too much while we were in Brittany – lots of very good restaurants and a very kind exchange rate, even if most lunches were baguettes and cheese lying in the sun somewhere. We did indulge some of the local Breton cuisine and drink, particularly their cidre, not something I’d tried before, but this might reduce your mileage the next day.
Enjoy the trip.

Re: Car Width over the ages

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 July 2015 - 10:56pm
My comment was rather tongue in cheek, but I think it's more significant than you are crediting.

It's not so much the regular overtakes, regular traffic conditions etc., of course there is plenty of room in that context, but two cars of similar size coming upon each other around a bend with a cyclist in the mix, and that foot could make a very significant difference, given the instinct to avoid the big object you're about to hit.

...and I know it shouldn't happen, but we know it does.

Re: Car Width over the ages

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 July 2015 - 9:58pm
Bonefishblues wrote:Tonyf33 wrote:BigFoz wrote:Here's an example: Mk1 next to latest version (mk 6?) VW Golf - newer one is significantly bigger.
http://www.newspress.co.uk/downloads/me ... 207_01.JPG
still only 15.8cm wider (1628-1786mm)...measure that between your hands, that makes jack all difference in the real world on any road.
It does if you get clattered by a wing mirror of a Mk7 just after a Mk1 has passed you, presumably.
In the sense it shouldn't be enough of a difference to be an excuse, being clattered by a MK7 is down to driver attitude/awareness, nothing more,nothing less. The width of your vehicle is NEVER an excuse to be struck, forced off or be intimidated by.

Re: CTC Bike Bag on Ryanair

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 July 2015 - 9:38pm
rootes wrote:my bike is very big so this helps with pack size with wheel on it would be too big to go into the oversize luggage scanner at T2

how big is it? is this just to make it easier or there is some sort of official limit? I know some airlines specify max length of bike (e.g. 190cm?) but most standard two wheel touring bikes should be inside that.

I'm flying with the CTC bag with Easyjet soon and would rather not have to take any wheels off..

Re: very very clever?!? Glasgow bus stop built in cycle lane

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 July 2015 - 9:09pm
mercalia wrote:MikeF wrote:But here in Glasgow the cycle lane has now been re routed around the back of the bus shelter http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-33655667

BUT by taking away nearly all of the pedestrian space! If I were a pedestrian there I would now be complaining.
So much for Commonwealth Games regeneration money being wisely spent!

why oh why not put the shelter way back from the road - the bus drivers I suppose dont need to be so wide awake to see if any one wants to get one?In the example in my post that doesn't solve the problem. If the bus shelter is moved back passengers boarding or alighting from the bus will have to cross the cycle lane. If there are many this will block the cycle lane and be a hazard. Also moving the bus shelter back will block the pavement for pedestrians.

The layout needs a complete redesign, but of course the money's already been spent so a paint job is all that can be afforded.

Re: very very clever?!? Glasgow bus stop built in cycle lane

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 July 2015 - 8:58pm
old_windbag wrote:UPDATE: the lump in the road looks like one of these below:-

http://en.zicla.com/public/img/140121_separador-carril-bic-plastico-reciclado.jpeg

quite big too.

They're called Armadillos and seem to be the new fashion in segregation on-the-cheap, not that they survive being hit by a car tyre too well. Some of them are now being protected by bollards which seems to defeat the object. https://departmentfortransport.wordpres ... structure/

Bike lanes going behind bus stops seems to be TRL's latest cunning plan. http://www.trl.co.uk/solutions/sustaina ... op-bypass/

Re: Car Width over the ages

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 July 2015 - 8:26pm
BigFoz wrote:Here's an example: Mk1 next to latest version (mk 6?) VW Golf - newer one is significantly bigger.
http://www.newspress.co.uk/downloads/me ... 207_01.JPG

I just twigged - you have to click on the link to see both cars...

I wonder how much of the extra width is down to the more 'modern' headlamp design? My current car is not a VW, but it has a headlamp arrangement almost identical to that of the car on the right - i.e. the modern twin reflectors design instead of the older single round reflector. So room has got to be found for these wider lamps somehow - you still need space for the radiator, so increase the overall body width?

Perhaps someone can explain to me the new design's advantage over the old. What I can say is, I'm baffled as to where to stick the deflectors for Continental driving. There don't appear to be any guidelines... (literally).

Re: Touring in Norway

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 July 2015 - 8:05pm
From Sortland? There's one at 6:45 am. It arrives at Fauske 11:45.

Re: Touring in Norway

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 July 2015 - 7:59pm
Vorpal wrote:jakobpoffley wrote:Weve decided to get the ferry to moskenes in fact we're on it right now. We'll probably be cycling to andanes then getting the bus back to fauske. I find it quite hard to understand the bus timetables so if someone would be able to tell me what time the buses go that we'd probably need to go on that would be amazing. Our train from fauske goes at 13:11 on Thursday the 30th.
You need to take the bus on Wednesday. The travel time with a change is almost 9 hours, so you should catch the 12:25 bus to Sortland bus terminal on Wednesday the 29th.
Thank you for the reply. If we just got the bus from sortland would we still need to leave on Wednesday or is there a bus on Thursday morning?

Re: Touring in Norway

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 July 2015 - 7:54pm
jakobpoffley wrote:Weve decided to get the ferry to moskenes in fact we're on it right now. We'll probably be cycling to andanes then getting the bus back to fauske. I find it quite hard to understand the bus timetables so if someone would be able to tell me what time the buses go that we'd probably need to go on that would be amazing. Our train from fauske goes at 13:11 on Thursday the 30th.
You need to take the bus on Wednesday. The travel time with a change is almost 9 hours, so you should catch the 12:25 bus to Sortland bus terminal on Wednesday the 29th.

Re: very very clever?!? Glasgow bus stop built in cycle lane

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 July 2015 - 7:27pm
Still not a patch on Fareham's "Cycle in" Tesco!

Re: very very clever?!? Glasgow bus stop built in cycle lane

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 July 2015 - 7:15pm
MikeF wrote:But here in Glasgow the cycle lane has now been re routed around the back of the bus shelter http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-33655667

BUT by taking away nearly all of the pedestrian space! If I were a pedestrian there I would now be complaining.
So much for Commonwealth Games regeneration money being wisely spent!

why oh why not put the shelter way back from the road - the bus drivers I suppose dont need to be so wide awake to see if any one wants to get one?

Re: Touring in Norway

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 July 2015 - 7:06pm
Weve decided to get the ferry to moskenes in fact we're on it right now. We'll probably be cycling to andanes then getting the bus back to fauske. I find it quite hard to understand the bus timetables so if someone would be able to tell me what time the buses go that we'd probably need to go on that would be amazing. Our train from fauske goes at 13:11 on Thursday the 30th.

Re: Motorists' visibility mark II

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 July 2015 - 4:54pm
Not sure what all the fuss about which way round is about. If you reverse out you have to carefully stick your tail out until you can see. If you've reversed in you have to carefully stick your nose out until you can see. Neither seems any better than the other to me.

What I do dislike when you have to drive or reverse out in that situation is that even if you edge out very slowly, cars still try and go past even though they can see what you are trying to do. Pedestrians tend to wait but stand right next to you blocking your view even more.
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