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Re: Pennine cycleway starting 27.6.15

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 June 2015 - 3:53pm
Just one bit of advice...

... the midges will be biting in Wark Forest/Kielder Forest (Once Brewed to West Woodburn). Don't forget the insect repellant!

In that area, camping available at Whinshields (west of Once Brewed, pub nearby), Stonehaugh, Bellingham (and there's a Co-Op store in the village).

Re: New Route Planner

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 June 2015 - 3:51pm
From the NCR4 route shown, it looks like the openstreetmap loaded into cycle.travel dates from some point during the seven months of the six week closure. http://cyclingfront.blogspot.co.uk/2015 ... -bbrp.html

Re: Please help!

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 June 2015 - 3:40pm
rachashaw wrote:I have just got into road cycling. I have a trek lexa .....

I have signed up for Ride London at the start of August and I am nowhere near ready. I tried to cycle up a huge hill near me which I believe to be similar to the hills in Ride London, couldn't make it. Physically, I am fit (I think). I'm a very sporty person and have transitioned from running to cycling.

.....
Should I drop out of the event?

Please help!

The hills on the Ride London Surrey 100 are not particularly steep but two or three do go on for over a mile. The maximum gradient is about 7%.

The gears on the 2015 Lexi ( 50/34 and 11-28 ) are rather high but should be ok. Take it steadily and get in a low gear early rather than struggling in a higher gear and wearing yourself out.

The last hill of the day in Wimbledon is less steep but plenty of people were walking up as the previous 90 miles caught up with them. And there's plenty of encouragement from the crowds.

You must do it. You will enjoy it. You will regret it if you don't.

P.S. I love my SPDs but please take yours off and get back to enjoying your cycling.

Re: Please help!

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 June 2015 - 1:53pm
I was dead against clipless, and was eventually persuaded to try them on a friend's bike. I hated them, found them claustrophobic - I had to get off PDQ.

However, I eventually decided to try them on my own bike to give them a fair trial. My bike shop put them on, but insisted I spent a fair bit of time in the shop on a turbo getting them in and out until they were satisfied I was safe. That meant I didn't scare myself again by wobbling around trying to get them out before riding home in them. I think that was psychologically dead right - for me anyway.

I haven't had trouble with them since, I'm perfectly relaxed about them; I like that I feel more in contact with the bike than I did with clips and straps, and I feel safer than when in straps as I can get out quicker (I never tightened the straps very tight).

It sounds to me like you feel as I did after the first try. There just isn't any point using them if you find they continue to worry you. We don't cycle to prove anything, but because we want to. If they make you unhappy, take them off.

As for the hills, I think that's just practice. I commuted for a while where there was a hill. Day one I had to get out and push, in a few days I got further and further up it and by the end of the first week I could grind all the way up. A few weeks later it was just part of the journey, and no big deal except after a particularly hard day.

*If later you feel ready for another go with the clipless, I'd suggest doing what they made me do, playing with them on a turbo where you don't have to balance until you feel completely relaxed about them. (I use SPDs, BTW, not full-on road ones.) They may not be for you, though, it may be as simple as that. It doesn't matter if they aren't.

Re: Please help!

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 June 2015 - 1:52pm
Earlier on, I hinted that putting up a post against clipless pedals might raise a furore. I was evidently wrong - folks are a lot more understanding and tolerant here on the CTC forum. Sorry to have cast aspersions!

I still believe that, in one or two "other places", I might have got lynched for saying something along those lines. Indeed, exactly that did happen to me in earlier incarnations. Happy days!

Racashaw, I hope you overcome your demons and get into lots of cycling. You won't regret it!

Pennine cycleway starting 27.6.15

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 June 2015 - 1:45pm
Setting off on the Pennine cycleway from Derby to Berwick Upon Tweed on

Not sure how long I’ll take, maximum 7 days minimum 4 days

Have my campsite booked for day 1

Would be grateful for any campsite recommendations and or general tips and suggestions for the remainder of the route

Thanks

Re: Please help!

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 June 2015 - 1:15pm
Samuel D wrote:If you have the slightest doubts about them, get rid of them immediately. Buy a pair of flat pedals for a tenner and cycle in whatever shoes you have available. Come back to clipless pedals when you’re ready, not when you’re doing Ride London for the first time. This isn’t a big deal; don’t make it so.
+1 Barring mechanical failure or "clipless moments" I don't think pedal choice has ever seriously affected someone's chance of finishing a ride. It really is not crucial outside of racing. You may find that not having the worry about releasing your feet at a sudden stop or fall may increase your confidence to travel faster. In any case you will feel better and enjoy the event more without worrying about pedals.

Longer term you could try Shimano's Click'r pedals which release much more easily.Having abandoned clipless pedals before, I am currently giving Click'r a try and finding them more to my liking than the 'normal' clipless pedals I previously used.

Re: Why do Daily Wail Readers Hate Cyclists?

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 June 2015 - 1:13pm
Bicycler wrote:karlt wrote:I've found in my 40 odd years that I don't come a cropper if I follow some fairly simple rules - 1. Don't slag off groups for the actions or perceived attributes of individuals...
You must have been having an off day...
karlt wrote:Daily Heil Commenters tend to dislike people who are not Like Them. The Daily Heil appeals to a lower middle class demographic, targeting the type of people who have an inflated opinion of themselves and therefore need someone to blame - immigrants, the unemployed, the council, Health and Safety, Political Correctness, for the fact that they're not hugely successful and that people pull them up on being prejudiced, moderately racist, homophobic sexists. Cyclists are just another outgroup to dislike simply because they're not People Like Us to the Mail readership. They hate them for the same reason that they hate immigrants, brown people, "lefties", you name it.
People are as guilty of generalising (disparagingly) about Mail readers as Mail readers themselves are perceived to be of generalising (disparagingly) about other groups

I get the impression that some people who hold one political view start to view theirs as the only acceptable one - the whole and only truth. Of course the solution to this is apply the following logic before assigning nasty attributes to others because they hold contrary opinions
karlt wrote:3. Don't assume everyone ought to be like you

You're right; I was being lazy. Parse my opening as "the Daily Heil Commenters who you see posting this sort of stuff".

Re: Please help!

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 June 2015 - 12:41pm
I use clipless pedals, but they really make no difference for an endurance event. They are useful for bursts of power – as periodically required in a race, for example – but they do very little (or nothing) for efficiency. See this video, for example. And this gent tours remote areas at a hundred miles a day with flat pedals.

If you have the slightest doubts about them, get rid of them immediately. Buy a pair of flat pedals for a tenner and cycle in whatever shoes you have available. Come back to clipless pedals when you’re ready, not when you’re doing Ride London for the first time. This isn’t a big deal; don’t make it so.

Almost anyone can get up almost any hill with appropriate gearing and pacing. You just need to slow down, use (or fit if necessary) a very low gear on the bike, and ride within yourself.

As TrevA said, ride plenty in the next four weeks, then take a break to give your body time to fully recover for the big day. You’ll be fine. (And how could you possibly “embarrass yourself”, as 661-Pete suggested?)

Re: Why do Daily Wail Readers Hate Cyclists?

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 June 2015 - 12:32pm
Quite, it's terribly unreliable to assume certain attributes based upon people's political views. Stereotyping is incredibly lazy and disrespectful to others. There seems to be an attitude amongst some that it is okay to dismiss others opinions and criticise the individuals without actually engaging with their arguments. This ought not to be the case. You change opinions through reasoned argument. Nobody was ever persuaded by being branded ignorant or called any other names.

Re: Why do Daily Wail Readers Hate Cyclists?

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 June 2015 - 12:24pm
Freddie wrote:To play Devil's advocate, that is a bit of an oversimplification. Sure, there are plenty of Daily Mail readers who are likely full of contempt for the "other" just because they are other, but are they not at least somewhat of a (over)reaction to the politically correct Guardian readers and columnists who seem to say (if not necessarily overtly) that you can never criticise immigrants, brown people, women et al for to do so would be, de facto, racist, sexist, bigoted and so on.


I think is true about UKIP voters too, there have been plenty of articles by the liberal intelligentsia criticising their ignorance, lack of good spirit or bigoted attitudes but the only self-acknowledged UKIP voter I know is also about the most charitable person I know. She has been involved with running local organisations, cooking Christmas dinners for old folk and helping out with village events for more than 30 years. I think a record of how much time she has contributed voluntarily, despite bringing up kids and part-time jobs would show 12 hours plus a week, every week for that 30 years.

Re: Why do Daily Wail Readers Hate Cyclists?

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 June 2015 - 12:19pm
karlt wrote:I've found in my 40 odd years that I don't come a cropper if I follow some fairly simple rules - 1. Don't slag off groups for the actions or perceived attributes of individuals...
You must have been having an off day...
karlt wrote:Daily Heil Commenters tend to dislike people who are not Like Them. The Daily Heil appeals to a lower middle class demographic, targeting the type of people who have an inflated opinion of themselves and therefore need someone to blame - immigrants, the unemployed, the council, Health and Safety, Political Correctness, for the fact that they're not hugely successful and that people pull them up on being prejudiced, moderately racist, homophobic sexists. Cyclists are just another outgroup to dislike simply because they're not People Like Us to the Mail readership. They hate them for the same reason that they hate immigrants, brown people, "lefties", you name it.
People are as guilty of generalising (disparagingly) about Mail readers as Mail readers themselves are perceived to be of generalising (disparagingly) about other groups

I get the impression that some people who hold one political view start to view theirs as the only acceptable one - the whole and only truth. Of course the solution to this is apply the following logic before assigning nasty attributes to others because they hold contrary opinions
karlt wrote:3. Don't assume everyone ought to be like you

Re: Why do Daily Wail Readers Hate Cyclists?

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 June 2015 - 11:49am
It's not as bad as all that.

Steady Rider started this thread http://forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=97991 regarding a Daily FAIL story from two years ago. All the worst rated comments are the anti-cyclist morons banging on about road tax, licenses, insurance, RLJ, pavement cycling and on and on ad nauseam.

Re: Tandems to Denmark

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 June 2015 - 11:37am
Mark S wrote:May be defer the trip to next year if you can, when hopefully the Harwich to Esbjerg route will materialise again with Regina Line http://www.reginaline.dk/index-uk.htm
This nonsense keeps on being repeated. There is zero chance Regina Lines will ever take you across the north sea.

To be clear
- Regina lines is not a ferry company, it's not even a registered company
- It is just one man and his very amateurish website
- He has no money, no ship, no crew, no relevant experience
- There is absolutely no chance this could ever possibly turn into an operating ferry company taking you across the North Sea

At the moment he is not taking money off people. So it doesn't, at least not yet, seem to be fraud. Most people dismiss him as a fantasist. But he is causing damage by making a lot of people think there will be a ferry service to Denmark next year. But there won't be.

Re: New Route Planner

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 June 2015 - 11:03am
Quick Q.
My route to work includes part of the Bristol to Bath Cycle Path - why does cycle.travel not want me to go through Staple Hill tunnel? Is the algorythm afraid of: i) the dark, ii) the damp or iii) the pigeon droppings? Staple Hill tunnel.jpg

Re: Touring on a Roadrat

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 June 2015 - 10:44am
My colleaggue is on one as we head south from nordkapp, hes ridden it all over the place. FB clive rogers and chat to him?

Re: The People you Meet

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 June 2015 - 10:13am
blackbike wrote:One person I always remember was an 84 year old cyclist who I met in Wensleydale on a ride from Lancaster to Leyburn on a very hot summer's day.

He had a superb old bike from the 40s 0r 50s and he was lean, fit and looked much younger than 84.

That was in 1984, so he's probably not cycling mow.

Alas, there's no-one alive now in Britain born in Victoria's reign, as this chap must have been. So it depends whether they have bikes up there.

Cycling Canal de Midi accomodation

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 June 2015 - 9:42am
Hi,
We are touring novices and plan to Cycle the Canal De midi from Toulouse to Narbonne later this year. We have the Cicerone guide as a good start but would like some advice re accommodation. Any information or recommendations gratefully received. Many thanks Colin and Angela

Re: Why do Daily Wail Readers Hate Cyclists?

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 June 2015 - 9:27am
Freddie wrote:To play Devil's advocate, that is a bit of an oversimplification. Sure, there are plenty of Daily Mail readers who are likely full of contempt for the "other" just because they are other, but are they not at least somewhat of a (over)reaction to the politically correct Guardian readers and columnists who seem to say (if not necessarily overtly) that you can never criticise immigrants, brown people, women et al for to do so would be, de facto, racist, sexist, bigoted and so on. Many would sooner lynch their first born son, than criticise someone from what they consider a victimised group.

Just look at the recent Sir Tim Hunt situation for an example of relatively timid criticism, now known to be part of a longer joke that didn't go fully reported, which has caused all kinds of trouble for the man because he criticised the wrong group of people and expressed unfashionable opinions (even though only part of an ironic joke). This kind of furious censorial attitude I find no less distasteful than the fury exhibited by the Daily Mail readership. I suppose at least with the Daily Mail lot, you know where you stand; with the politically correct social engineers, the whole point seems to be you never quite know when you have said something verboten, for the goal posts are always moving. One who doesn't purvey forever changing, socially acceptable ideas in the right way is labelled a bigot and summarily torn to shreds, purely through their ignorance of the latest fashions, rather than through any real malice on their part.

People say that, but I've found in my 40 odd years that I don't come a cropper if I follow some fairly simple rules - 1. Don't slag off groups for the actions or perceived attributes of individuals; 2. Don't be a tit; 3. Don't assume everyone ought to be like you; 4. Don't use people's attributes as a basis for humour at their expense.
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