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Re: Reducing pannier weight

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 24 March 2015 - 12:35am
bainbridge: are you going to reveal whether you are camping or not? My guess from reading your posts is that you are not but there seems to be some confusion on here.

And another thing: if you aren't camping and stick to just two panniers*, you should be OK weight wise, heavy locks notwithstanding. What was your pannier weight last time round and what are you hoping for this time?

My own view is that (within reason) weight isn't really an issue on a bike - a couple of kilos either way doesn't matter - unless you are going for high mileages - as low gears can take care of it. Camping is different because your need for comfort and the bike's ability to carry stuff can outstrip your ability to get it up the hills.

*I'm covering my back here as many people are sensitive about weight on a bike. So:
Disclaimer #1: obviously not crammed to the top and obviously not loaded with books, steel locks, laptops, jars of jam and geological specimens.
Disclaimer #2: less weight on a bike is always a good thing. But some luggage is useful and the bike will carry it with ease.

Re: Yet another example of criminal justice

CTC Forum - On the road - 24 March 2015 - 12:00am
A rear shunt doesnt always mean the person behind is liable, this is often claimed to be the case but that is an expectation rather than a rule.

I think that in this case, if the claim that the cyclist jumped off the pavement is believed, then the driver probably will not be held liable for the damage. It is not as if he was driving too close behind the cyclist and failed to brake in time.

Re: Is there an app that replaces a Garmin?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 March 2015 - 11:35pm
Trick_Cyclist wrote: Cheaper maps for Garmin would ease the discomfort o potential purchase.

Geoff

Sorry, have you read the thread? Perfectly good FREE maps are available for the garmin. How cheap do you want?

Re: Reducing pannier weight

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 March 2015 - 11:24pm
Excellent stuff folks

Just purchased some of those karrimor zip off trousers and some flip flops, so no need to take jeans and casual shorts plus the old tootsies can have a rest when off the bike.

Been weighing stuff as the departure date approaches and the weight is still coming down!

Re: Utility Pannier Bags

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 March 2015 - 10:57pm
Well I have the sjs cheap panniers. I usually just use the right one clipping to whatever bike I use. At the current price of £10 there's little to complain about in my view.

Re: Is there an app that replaces a Garmin?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 March 2015 - 10:56pm
Thank you for a helpful discussion. It seems the app I had hoped for doesn't exist. I have a sat-nav app for the car which allows me to upload a country in advance & gives me turn by turn guidance, but of course I can't pre-plan a cycle route on it - although it did rescue us in France as it showed us where we were [not where we thought] when we had no 3G signal. Cheaper maps for Garmin would ease the discomfort o potential purchase.

Geoff

Re: Didn't know cyclists could be fined for speeding!

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 March 2015 - 10:18pm
Vorpal wrote:No one expect a 4 year old to cycle in the road, yet where do you draw the line?
The easiest one is the age where they can be held liable for breaking the law.

Vorpal wrote:it becomes reasonable to confiscate a 4-year-old's bicycle.
It is never reasonable to confiscate a 4 year old's bike. In fact is is never reasonable, or legal for that matter to randomly confiscate someone's property. To quote from a different context - press photographers (one of my friends was, until fairly recently, a semi-pro freelance photojournalist).
However, under the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (PACE) police have no right to confiscate cameras, film or memory cards from an individual unless they have first convinced a judge that the evidence is required in connection with a “serious arrestable offence” or that it would be admissible in court.(Statewatch PDF)
Police officers do not have the authority to ... confiscate cameras or film, and such conduct could result in criminal, civil or disciplinary action.
(quoting Nottinghamshire Police: Guidelines for Police and Media at Incidents - p7 in this Levenson Enquiry Submission PDF).

If it isn't legal to confiscate a press photographer's camera (without having convinced a judge of the importance to do so - I'd like to see that one tried ) how can it be any more legal to confiscate a 4 year old's bike (unless it acceptable just because they are smaller & weaker!)

Rick.

Re: maps for the west of USA

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 March 2015 - 10:14pm
http://www.usgs.gov/pubprod/ ?

Or you can just take the free ones form tourist information places? They are usually pretty good, but road atlas quality rather than OS.

Re: maps for the west of USA

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 March 2015 - 10:11pm
When I did my last trip to the USA (Nevada, Arizona & Utah) I bought Delorme / Rand McNally road atlases & just cut the sheets I wanted for my trip out with a Stanley knife. This was OK for a road based trip, if you intend to go off road you'd probably need to get stuff locally.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=dp_byline ... evancerank

I used the ACA maps when I did Seattle to San Fran, they are very good if you are just following one of their routes.

Plenty of GPS maps out there as well. I was able to download decent quality stuff to cover my trip & pre plotted my route at home.

Re: maps for the west of USA

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 March 2015 - 10:07pm
The ACA maps are worth it for all the extraneous (non map) stuff they contain. Are you doing an ACA route or 'just' touring? If the former, you could download the GPX and follow Garmin. If you don't have one, put the map cost towards buying one then just use State maps from petrol stations. If the latter, just buy the State maps. They're not great but there aren't that many roads to choose from like we see in Europe.

Re: Utility Pannier Bags

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 March 2015 - 10:00pm
TBH I rarely lock my bike. Haven't lost any panniers yet.

Re: Yet another example of criminal justice

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 March 2015 - 10:00pm
Another curious aspect of his case is that I assume that the family can (perhaps) claim the cost of the damage to the bike from the driver's insurers (this would be normal in the case of a rear shunt) even though they wouldn't be able to claim for any damage to the lad himself. And the deceased would have been able, had he lived, to have done the same. In any case, in the event of an insurance claim the driver would have been deemed to be at fault (I presume). I don't know why the court would find that the driver wasn't at fault. It's a strange distinction IMV. Is this not where a private civil claim for damages often comes in (rather than a private prosecution)?

Re: Utility Pannier Bags

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 March 2015 - 9:55pm
pete75 wrote:Super C - just last and last.Do they stay on the bike when it's locked up? I've got Super C's for the tourer. Even though I live in a fairly low crime area, I couldn't bring myself to leave them on the bike, unless they were permanently fixed. The QR zip tie anti sway device I fixed on the SJS bags was fine for what they were (locking them semi permanently), but I'd want something more substantial to make a secure fastening for quality panniers.

So is it better to use nice quality panniers, which require removing when the bike's locked up, or ratty panniers left permanently on that no one would want to nick? Preferably ones which are highly functional, without the nickability.

Re: maps for the west of USA

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 March 2015 - 9:43pm
Flippant perhaps but in my view there are no "good" maps of the US.

You might look at http://www.adventurecycling.org/ which has some resources to point you in the right direction.

Rob

maps for the west of USA

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 March 2015 - 9:30pm
Can anyone suggest good maps for the west of America - Arizona , Utah , Idaho , Oregon and the Pacific coast. I've costed the American adventure cycling maps but these seem very expensive. Thanks

Cycling route from Spoleto to Assisi (Italy)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 March 2015 - 9:29pm
Ciao,

I suggest you the longest paved cycling route in Umbria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbria). The stretch reserved to the cycles runs from Spoleto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoleto) to Bevagna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bevagna), then there is a cycling itinerary up to Assisi along low traffic roads. Total lenght about 38 miles.

For details: http://rideinumbria.blogspot.it

Re: Yet another example of criminal justice

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 March 2015 - 9:12pm
I hope they also got the driver to display his one handed without looking texting ability and compared the spelling etc with the standard of messages he'd been sending, then got him to read out a text, one handed, without looking.

Re: Tour de Manche

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 March 2015 - 9:09pm
roygriff21 wrote:It maybe that our 4 day itinerary might suit you better Beekeeper:

Plymouth > Okehampton 67km
Okehampton > Sidmouth 72km
Sidmouth > Dorchester 88km
Dorchester > Poole 57km

Do let us know how you get on.

Roy
roy@signpostcycling.co.uk
Many thanks.

Re: It me or do SUVs alway drive to close

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 March 2015 - 9:03pm
toomsie wrote:It me or do SUVs always seem to drive to close. More then half of the cars that do so are 4x4.
I don't seem to have the same problem with minivans, which is strange I consider them more
or less the same type of car.

The minivan was tiny being only 11 ft long and about 4ft wide. Stopped being made in the early eighties so few about now.


This bias against trucks seems to be a town v country thing.
What do they expect someone who has to use muddy farm tracks, tow heavy trailers filled with 2 or 3 beast to market, use on shoots where there's often lots of rough ground to cover,drive over fields etc. A 4wd drive truck is generally bought as a working vehicle.
BTW how do you know they are 4x4 - many of the townie type vehicles that look like a 4wd are actually 2wd.

Re: Yet another example of criminal justice

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 March 2015 - 8:55pm
horizon wrote:... does anyone know what was put forward as an alternative explanation of the cause of the collision?
We have the reported account of the driver.
“I realised it was a cyclist on the pavement on my left hand side. He started to come off the pavement and I started to react. I started to brake and steer around the cyclist.

“It was all very quick but it seemed to me he had adjacened (sic) out slightly from the lane he should have been on.”

He told the jury that Daniel had turned around and looked behind him “just before it (the van) struck the bike”.

“He just came out more than I expected. I spiked my brakes," he added.
It would appear that the driver believed the fault for the collision lay with the deceased's standard of cycling. It would appear that the jury agreed.

I believe this is a form of SWISS as defined by TonyR. Dead men can't apportion blame.
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