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Re: Another 'Cyclists Dismount'

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 September 2014 - 1:36pm
And it's a non-standard sign. They've taken the usual red triangle sign that warns other road users that there are cyclists, and added the words "cyclists dismount".

This is double or treble stupidity.

Re: New Route Planner

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 10 September 2014 - 1:03pm
sore thumb wrote:Just did a route with the planner. For a commute of around 17 miles into birmingham.

I was looking at roads that are not too busy with traffic but provide a reasonable fast route for a cyclist as I average around 18 mph.

However the planner comes up with cycle paths and canal paths and my route has gone up from 17 miles to 20 miles. And a time from 2hrs 30mins when I could really do it in around an hour I think.

Is there anyway to put in my average speed so the planner removes slow routes but keep me off the 'main busy road sections' ?

Thoughts?
Have you tried Cyclestreets? It gives you a choice of three routes - fast, medium and slow. Not that I want to detract from Richard's work, which I find very useful, but sometimes it is good to have alternatives.

Re: Why do we do it?

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 September 2014 - 12:45pm
AlaninWales wrote:binsted wrote:Driving through our local town yesterday and watched a cyclist in road gear just ride through the red lights, didn't even look round to see who was watching and just weaved through the traffic.

I was tempted to wind down my window and let him know my feelings but !!.

Why do we do it, we are giving the anti-cycling brigade all the ammunition they need, never a policeman about when you need one!!

I somehow felt embarrassed, can you believe that!! Would love to know his logic.
We? Who the h3ll's WE?

OK its obviously a bit too deep for a few on this forum, I,m off for a ride

Another 'Cyclists Dismount'

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 September 2014 - 12:44pm
I don't think this needs any comment, this topic has been done to death many times, but I couldn't resist posting this picture I took this morning on Blackpool seafront (near the Cabin to be precise). The barriers are to do with the illuminations and the same happened last year.

The white lines are the edge of the 'cycle lane' on this shared use route; as you can see there's nothing further ahead, and there's virtually no visible markings behind me either.
No, I didn't dismount....

Further towards Blackpool the promenade is all shared use, with no marked cycle lanes. It seems to work fine, but should I ask them to put 'dismount' signs up in front of every obstacle? (Litter bins, street lights, some giant steel 'grass', fake boulders strewn around the comedy carpet etc).

Re: Why do we do it?

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 September 2014 - 12:17pm
Ayesha wrote:What's all this "WE"?
What happens if you drink too much?

Re: Ten Miles a Day

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 September 2014 - 11:28am
24 is on Target for the year.
The Tinsel and Lanes Audax on 6th December should clinch it.

Re: 700c wheels in India?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 10 September 2014 - 11:21am
We cycled in West Africa last year and split the rear 26in rim in the Western Sahara. It was a 32 hole rim and it took us a good while to find a replacement. 36 hole seems to be the West African standard. May be different in the east, but still something to bear in mind. 700c would probably be even more difficult to source. We worked on a project which received donated bikes from the UK and even here there were very few 700c's. For peace of mind I'd go with the 26in option. An old steel mountain bike would suffice.

Re: Why do we do it?

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 September 2014 - 11:20am
What's all this "WE"?

Re: Advice on accident involving a dog

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 September 2014 - 11:17am
Find the dog.
Shoot the dog.
Go home.
Repair bike.

Re: New Route Planner

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 10 September 2014 - 10:59am
That one's been puzzling me for a while now. I think it's an issue with the software that loads raw OSM data into the map database (osm2pgsql) - the mode I use it in appears to have problems with data which is both a lake and an administrative boundary. Still looking into it!

Re: Advice on accident involving a dog

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 September 2014 - 10:40am
PH wrote:A guy in CTC Derby got knocked of by a farm dog while out on a club run a few years ago. Claimed his out of pocket expenses, including a new frame, with the CTCs insurers.

Was this just his own bike insurance, which happened to be via CTC, or some kind of liability against the CTC for (I dunno, organising a club run past a farm or whatever)?

Re: Advice on accident involving a dog

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 September 2014 - 10:32am
karlt wrote:TonyR wrote:What you need to refer to is not the Dangerous Dogs Act but the Road Traffic Act 1988 s27

It starts:
(1)A person who causes or permits a dog to be on a designated road without the dog being held on a lead is guilty of an offence.

But of little relevance to a civil claim. The above is the police/CPS' concern if they want to prosecute.
It may have little relevance, but it does have some. Even if the dog owner is not prosecuted, there is an implied responsibility in the criminal law.

That said, it doesn't help the OP much to discuss the finer points of criminal law, if all he wants is compensation.

Re: Why do we do it?

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 September 2014 - 10:24am
binsted wrote:Driving through our local town yesterday and watched a cyclist in road gear just ride through the red lights, didn't even look round to see who was watching and just weaved through the traffic.

I was tempted to wind down my window and let him know my feelings but !!.

Why do we do it, we are giving the anti-cycling brigade all the ammunition they need, never a policeman about when you need one!!

I somehow felt embarrassed, can you believe that!! Would love to know his logic.
We? Who the h3ll's WE?

Re: Biker's death filmed - horrific.

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 September 2014 - 10:14am
mjr wrote:Bicycler wrote:Agreed but have you seen the video? That wasn't the case here. The road was pretty darn straight. The car was facing towards the oncoming bike wishing to make a right turn across its path. The driver admitted to not seeing either the bike or car coming towards him. If there had been the slightest bit of doubt about whether he ought to have seen it the driver would not have pleaded guilty.
I've watched the video. I was trying to avoid doing so. I know that road and that junction very well. I worked in Norwich for years, but I don't drive it so often now. The car was turning into Wood Lane. Yes, the road is straight, but that junction is in a dip and blind over the brows both front and back. If I remember correctly, I think the motorbike would not be seen until it was level with the advance direction sign, but that's still six seconds before impact and the car only passes the point of no return two seconds before impact.

Even at the speed limit, I suspect it wouldn't have given enough extra time to brake - possibly to swerve, but that would be gambling on no car following the right-turner, plus the road surface through those junctions is usually pretty awful so braking might be impaired.

Has anyone here commented on the fact the biker had just left a race track? He pulls out from Norfolk Arena onto Saddlebow Road (2 or 3 roads away from where I sit typing this) which is 40mph max, yet his speedo in-shot shows him immediately accelerating to 60mph as far as I can tell (big notches every 20). There are lots of HGVs and agricultural vehicles turning on and off that road (that's part of why local campaigners got NCN1 diverted off it and onto a tarmac cycleway along the river bank), so he was fortunate not to meet any, or to lose control on any of the worn-out bits of that road. There's also a police base if you turn right out of the arena gates - shame no police passed and pulled him over. Basically, everything about Saddlebow Road screams that it's 40mph for good reason so I'm shocked to see a biker treat it like that... and there are quite a few bikers using it because C&A Superbikes is next to the police base and it's the nicest way for motorbikes from town to a lot of the fen villages. I know the car driver was also to blame, but should there be a compulsary "cooling off" rest before driving or riding away from a racetrack? Maybe a big "THINK" advert alongside or opposite the gates, too?

Also, thinking again, that probably means the biker did 35 miles in broad daylight along the A47 at up to 150% of the speed limit, probably including through the 6 or so villages (because the video also shows some dodgy overtaking just after leaving Little Fransham), and Norfolk Police didn't react before the crash, so I'm surprised they made such a big thing of this video. I'm also surprised that they let it be called an accident in the video.

excellent and well considered post by someone who knows the area.

Re: Advice on accident involving a dog

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 September 2014 - 10:09am
karlt wrote:TonyR wrote:What you need to refer to is not the Dangerous Dogs Act but the Road Traffic Act 1988 s27

It starts:
(1)A person who causes or permits a dog to be on a designated road without the dog being held on a lead is guilty of an offence.

But of little relevance to a civil claim. The above is the police/CPS' concern if they want to prosecute.
Relevance is that the you could reasonably expect dogs to not be roaming loose. Not a defence you could apply against a cat for instance...

Re: Advice on accident involving a dog

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 September 2014 - 10:05am
TonyR wrote:What you need to refer to is not the Dangerous Dogs Act but the Road Traffic Act 1988 s27

It starts:
(1)A person who causes or permits a dog to be on a designated road without the dog being held on a lead is guilty of an offence.

But of little relevance to a civil claim. The above is the police/CPS' concern if they want to prosecute.

Re: Why do we do it?

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 September 2014 - 9:53am
Some cyclists think red lights don't apply to them............ some drivers think VED gives them priority over cyclists or pedestrians......... some lorry drivers think it's ok to drive a couple of yards off your rear bumper............... some motorcyclists think it's ok to use full-beam headlights all the time
Some.

Re: Why do we do it?

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 September 2014 - 9:49am
[XAP]Bob wrote:Do you feel embarrassed whenever you see a speeding motorist? You should.

Your'e probably right in hindsight I should have wound down the window launched a verbal tirade about bloody cyclists and posted on the motoring forum.

Re: Why do we do it?

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 September 2014 - 9:38am
I went for a jog along the waterfront in Liverpool yesterday, on my return I waited to cross on the ped crossing.
The lights changed and a van on the inside stopped, green man came on I started to cross and stopped when I heard the sound of car on full chat. Next thing a golf shot through at (I'd estimate) 60 plus and at least 5 seconds after the lights had changed.
He had to stop in the queue at the next set probably 200 yards further up.

See behaviour like that all the time, see drivers jumping lights at pretty much every set (although not usually so dangerously) and for every cyclist I've seen RLJ'ing I see probably half a dozen that don't.

I must admit to frequently jumping off the bike and walking it to the other side rather than wait though...

Re: Do you ride out of the saddle?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 10 September 2014 - 9:26am
This is the touring board, and I generally tour on a 'bent, so that kinda limits me to the nice comfy chair...

But changing to a 'bent did change the way I ride, getting me far more appreciative of spinning gears sat down, and even on the upwrongs I'm far less likely to get out the saddle to pedal than used to be the case (when I was a kid I was a terrible masher so practically lived out of the saddle, if you can dignify the plastic thing on a Raleigh Olympus with such a name... maybe that's why I was so keen on standing up!).

My first ever loaded tour, I went around the corner from home, stood up and swung the bike as usual, and got that entertaining rack and luggage oscillating slightly out of phase with the bike thing. Didn't crash, but it was a close thing. That gave me a rather different perspective on standing with a load and without, but now I'm coaching sporty cycling for kids I've got to re-acquaint myself with swinging the bike when standing. The main problem is getting the kids to sit down more often and use lower gears, they're almost as bad as I used to be...

Pete.
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