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Re: Electric 'car' fright

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 9:45pm
Cunobelin wrote:James Martin the "Celebrity" Chef has an opinion on quiet electric vehicles, in this case the Tesla Electric sports car:

<utter **** not worth repeating>Have you got a source or link for this piece of vile garbage?

Re: What is the best mains USB Charger for touring?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 June 2014 - 9:35pm
I agree with the advice to buy only branded chargers. I bought a cheap one off t'internet for my Sony smartphone. Although it hasn't done anything so spectacular as bursting into flames, the phone behaves very strangely when charging from it. Any touch on the screen results in 4 or 5 repeats of that character being registered by Android . The phone is effectively unusable while being charged.

Re: BT Openreach cyclists stay back

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 9:29pm
This is the best riposte I've seen yet:-

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Re: Not your usual "Cyclists Dismount" sign!

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 9:28pm
This discussion shows why the different versions of English have been so successful: widespread use by people who were not very good at it has led to the scrapping of much of the declension of nouns and conjugation of verbs and so on. While the irregular forms of common words can quickly trap and identify the non-native speakers, it's very easy to get by with a limited vocabulary. I know I'm using a bit of a circular argument - widespread use has led to widespread use - but it's still valid. Watch a report of a catastrophe from just about any part of the world and quite ordinary local people will be able - often with great dignity - to cobble together a few words of English which convey the message. The compilers of dictionaries are seen by some as the final arbiter, but in reality, they have the final word on little more than the eligibility of a word for Scrabble or in Countdown. Usage rules, OK?

Re: Innsbruck to Munich cyle route

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 June 2014 - 9:27pm
Thanks for the answers. I think that the Issarradweg covers most of the route, the guides I've found are mostly in German not suprisingly so maybe I'll have to brush up my language skills.

Re: BT Openreach cyclists stay back

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 9:26pm
37262 wrote:I find that when I am turning left into Carpenters Road from Stratford High Street in the evenings, there are some of the cycling fraternity that refuse to acknowledge my presence,

There is a real problem with our UK driving test. Drivers get licences believing their indicators give them priority. We had exactly the same scenario, as 37262's example above, reported by one of our House of Commons Transport Select Committee members. He also genuinely believed that once he put his indicator out he had priority turning left and was upset because cyclists have had the audacity to remonstrate with him.

If you use your indicator in a vehicle it means "I would like to turn", it is then up to you to make sure your way is clear; and if you have to wait a long time that's the way the cookie crumbles.

Welcome to the forum. For a first post you've put your head into the lion's den I hope it doesn't put you off. Good luck with beginning cycling, I hope you find it as fulfilling and useful as most on here do.

Re: Electric 'car' fright

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 9:24pm
James Martin the "Celebrity" Chef has an opinion on quiet electric vehicles, in this case the Tesla Electric sports car:


"Twenty minutes into my test drive I pulled round a leafy bend, enjoying the birdsong – and spotted those damned Spider-Man cyclists," he said.

"Knowing they wouldn't hear me coming, I stepped on the gas, waited until the split second before I overtook them, then gave them an almighty blast on the horn at the exact same time I passed them at speed.

"The look of sheer terror as they tottered into the hedge was the best thing I've ever seen in my rear-view mirror."

Re: Electric 'car' fright

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 9:21pm
cjchambers wrote:There's a pizza shop in Bath has one of those Twizy things for deliveries. I imagine it's pretty clapped out, all that uphill and downhill, stop and start.

chocjohn9 wrote:I thought the manufacturers were going to give these 'cars' a noise so people like us lot would be able to brace ourselves for a drive by....
Yes, but I hope they don't - the noise pollution from cars is one of their more objectionable characteristics. If they're going to add artificial noise, they might as well add 'choking fume generators'

"Catch 22"

There is a lot of evidence that people "look and listen", but often if they can't hear anything then they don't look.

If we leave electric vehicles silent, then there will be a number of injuries and deaths that the motoring lobby can exploit to ensure that petrol remains King

Noise generators are at the moment the only way that dozy pedestrians are going to notice these vehicles.

Re: Not your usual "Cyclists Dismount" sign!

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 9:15pm
Dare I suggest that we're a bit off-topic ?

Re: Not your usual "Cyclists Dismount" sign!

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 9:02pm
Curiously, I remember quite the opposite when I did Latin at school. There the gender was usually tied to the declension, so for example first declension** words were nearly all feminine. But if the word referred to an obvious male, like nauta (sailor) or agricola (farmer)*, then it took the masculine gender.

*I suppose that farmers and sailors were always men back in Roman times...

**mensa mensa mensam mensae mensae mensa mensae mensae mensas mensarum mensis mensis.... don't get me started!

Re: Digital Mapping - What do you use?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 June 2014 - 8:44pm
OSMAND can show both cycle routes and campsites. I've used it successfully for two European tours and have been very happy with it, getting to know the user interface can be difficult.

To show cycle routes: with the map showing, press the bottom left menu button and choose Configure screen
scroll down to the bottom and tick the box labelled Show cycle routes They appear at zoom levels 12 and up, equivalent to the 2 mile scale. (You can briefly see the zoom level above the zoom buttons bottom right when you change scale, though it gets replaced by the scale.)

Campsites are one of many types of POI that OSMAND can display and the assumption is that you don't want them all there all the time, to minimise clutter. To display them: Long press on the screen in the area you want to see them and tap the location box that appears; Choose Search near here; Choose Accommodation; Tap the 'show on map icon' (bottom left of the screen)

This will show campsites and other forms of accommodation, each with their own icon, at zoom levels 10 and up.
To just get campsites, tap the filter icon below the search list and type 'camp' in the filter box at the top. Show on map will then just show campsites, and as far is I know there's no reason why you shouldn't just leave them there all the time (but I haven't used it like this).

There are so many other useful POIs that my touring routine is something like this:
scroll ahead to the area I think I'll reach and use 'search near here' to find possible campsites;
choose one and set it as a favourite, which can be displayed when others have been hidden;
use 'directions to' to plot a route to the campsite (which I didn't necessarily follow, but they were usually pretty good);
use 'search near here' somewhere along the route to find a supermarket to buy food.

There are loads of other useful POIs which you probably wouldn't want on all the time, but can be really useful, such as cash machines, pharmacies, tourist information, etc. I think the range of information stored in offline OSMAND is phenomenal, and it's worth a bit of effort getting to know how to use it.

I also have a Garmin etrex in which I have maps from http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/ I've found these to be pretty good. I think it has all the same POIs as OSMAND. I don't trust its routing, it's lead me on odd detours too many times. I generally find OSMAND easier, so I use that for planning, and then have the Garmin on the bars ready to show detail along the way when needed.

Re: Yoga or stretches for touring?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 June 2014 - 8:07pm
I try to stretch daily and use a selection from the chart at my local gym which I photographed and keep on my phone.

Electric 'car' fright

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 7:56pm
Someone overtaking and missing me by inches is never good, but today I was happily enjoying the sunny spin down a fairly wide country lane when an electric Renault Twizy passed by, well within my comfort zone.....My goodness, I jumped out of my skin.
The shock of not hearing it coming, the unexpected alien looking lump of metal and plastic and the fact that it was very close, really isn't on and I suppose we are going to have to get used to this sort of thing. I thought the manufacturers were going to give these 'cars' a noise so people like us lot would be able to brace ourselves for a drive by....

For those who don't know what one is, there are 3 photos here (the last one is ironic) -
http://www.renault.be/nl/gamma-renault/ ... tijden.jsp

Re: American looking for touring partner/s in UK or just adv

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 June 2014 - 7:26pm
MattC2789 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s3lUcpAv-4
This was so interesting I ended up watching the whole thing! I’m just left wondering about Kathie.

You’ll have to do something similar – this time in HD! – for your UK trip.

Re: Quick ride out...

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 7:26pm
Got my wheels home bungeed to the rear rack like this.
I've had a few rides so stress free and nice that I almost wrote about and shared them with the forum. Those days remind me why I love cycling

Re: Surly Haul Long Trucker Cross Check

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 June 2014 - 7:18pm
I'll second the Straggler as I am very happy with mine. It has taken a fair bit of punishment in its short life so far and has performed exceptionally well.

Re: Quick ride out...

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 7:16pm
I find sometimes though that the worst time is when the roads are quiet and vehicle drivers really resent bikes for 'getting in the way' as they expected an easy run and won't wait. Rush hour in Aberdeen means people are resigned to the fate of sitting for a while and unlikely to do anything very bad. There are always exceptions...

Re: Not your usual "Cyclists Dismount" sign!

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 June 2014 - 7:11pm
Byalluch nuh ba would do...

Re: What is the best mains USB Charger for touring?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 13 June 2014 - 6:34pm
For any device from a well-known brand, plugging a device that wants 1A into a 4A charger will not cause any problems. The device decides how much current it will take, and the charger can't force through more. The other way round may cause the charger to overheat.

I'd be very wary of buying a random cheap charger. While I'm happy to use cheap generic stuff in lots of situations, there are a lot of rubbish chargers out there. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27390466 gives some examples. Modern electronic chargers rely on electronics and good design to keep 240V separate from 5V. Cheap products use cheap components and have poor design. A fire or 240V getting into your devices are very real possibilities.

I'd also keep an eye on your Poundshop 4-way cable. If you end up plugging in 4 x 1A devices, that's 4A going through the plug, which is a lot for USB, and I'd be surprised if the plug was of good enough quality. I have had several USB extension cables from Poundshop (it makes it much easier to use a phone, etc, while it's charging). Only one now works, the others have all failed, and something as simple as an extension lead shouldn't really fail.

I'd suggest what you need is a branded charger of a power equal to the sum current of the devices you want to charge simultaneously (which may be non-trivial to find out). If this looks expensive - which it may do if you limit yourself to non-dodgy sources - consider charging sequentially. Be aware that Apple have their own alternative to the USB charging rules, so your iPod may charge slowly on an non-Apple charger.

Final thought. If you're buying a charger specifically for use in Europe, I'd buy one with a continental-style 2-pin plug, and avoid the clunkiness of the UK 13A socket and an adapter. I bought one in a French supermarket (after leaving my adapter behind at a campsite) and it makes for a very neat solution.
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