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Re: Jens gets Hour record

CTC Forum - Racing - 5 hours 44 min ago
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:(XAB)Bob I think Boardman was rejected on saddle position etc,

Yes but the above quote (from one of the newspapers) looked as if they were reinstating those, but not putting them forward as records to be broken, which was odd. A deeper (and cycling specific) article is more complete:

The UCI killed off interest in the Hour Record in 2000 when they ruled that any attempts had to be done using a tradition bike, much like the one used by Eddy Merckx in 1972. That stifled innovation and cancelled records set by Graeme Obree and Chris Boardman, who set the record using the Superman aerodynamic position.

Under the new rules, anyone attempting the Hour Record will have to use a bike that complies with rules for endurance competition on the track. This means that aero bars, disc wheels and aero helmets will be allowed.

The UCI had back dated its record books, ruling that Eddy Merckx's record of 49.431km in 1972 and Cornelia Van Oosten-Hage women's record of 43.083km set in 1978, are legal Hour Records. All records established since then with non-conforming bikes, including the records of Chris Boardman (56.375km) and Jeannie Longo-Ciprelli (48.159km) in 1996, receive the new name of “Best hour performance”.

Under the new rules, the Hour Records to beat are those established by Ondrej Sosenka (49.700km) for men and by Leontien Zijlaard-Van Moorsel (46.065km) for women. These two athletes beat the Hour record using equipment which is still within the regulations currently applicable to track endurance events.

So the records which were set on what would now be considered legal are allowed, not those not set on 2014 track bikes.
It's a completely arbitrary standard now, not allowing the inter generational battle which it could/should be. I hope they retain a "classic" record as "the" hour, and run a second set as a "modern" hour record. Leave the real freedom, and the absolute hour record to the IHPVA.

South American Plan- companions sought

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 5 hours 50 min ago
I am in the very early stages of planning an end 2 end of South America(Late 2015 or 2016), details still to be planned. I would like to do this trip with others. Please contact if you think this is something you would enjoy planning and joining.
Previous long distance trip experience, coast to coast USA and Lejog.

Re: Jens gets Hour record

CTC Forum - Racing - 7 hours 39 min ago
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:We all like Jens (i thought it was Yens meself) but I dont know why he did it.

German, a 'j' usually comes out as we would say a 'y'.

Why did he do it? My guess is that best of all reasons to do things like this... because he could!

NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Poor old Jens is not on the same list as Merkcx and Boardman, Wired wheels, I.M.O.

For some values of "poor" and "old", that is. A great way to end a distinguished career. He's acknowledged it won't last for long, but he did it anyway, so good on him. He had enormous respect from me before, but he has even more now. The legs shut up, and the spotlight is now back on the Hour after too long in the shade caused by misbegotten rules revisions.

Pete.

Re: Jens gets Hour record

CTC Forum - Racing - 8 hours 3 min ago
Hi,
I like old Jens really I do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hour_record

(XAB)Bob I think Boardman was rejected on saddle position etc,
You stand on the left I will stand on the right and the boys can squeeze between us Excepting that UCI still holds the tin of Tacks

"In 1993 and 1994, Graeme Obree, a Scot who built his own bikes, posted two records with his hands tucked under his chest. In 1996, Boardman set a record using another position pioneered by Obree, his arms out in front in a Superman position. Both were considered controversial by the UCI, and while the records were allowed to stand, the positions were banned. Obree and Boardman made several attempts to top the previous record"

"In 2005 Ondřej Sosenka improved Boardman's performance at 49.700 km (30.882 mi) using a 54×13 gear. At 200 cm (6 ft 6¾ in) tall, Sosenka used an unusual saddle position and a small vertical frame height to stay within UCI regulations.[2] Sosenka failed a doping control in 2001 and then again in 2008, the latter resulting in a career ending in suspension which puts in doubt the validity of his record."



Jens / Moser -

"In January 1984, Moser set two records, the second being 51.151 km (31.784 mi). This was the first noted use of disc wheels, which provided aerodynamic benefit."

"Following the change in the rules, German Jens Voigt became the first rider to attempt the hour, on 18 September 2014 at the Velodrome Suisse, Grenchen, Switzerland.[7][8] He set a new record of 51.115 km, beating the previous record set by Sosenka by 1.4 km."

Re: Jens gets Hour record

CTC Forum - Racing - 8 hours 30 min ago
No, that's fair comment, but it's nice for him to have held something like that, and even more so since he's a billionty-seven years old, at least

Re: Short Survey - Do you use service stations?

CTC Forum - On the road - 8 hours 36 min ago
I don't even use them for fuel. I buy my vegetable oil in 20 litre drums from Costco.

Re: Jens gets Hour record

CTC Forum - Racing - 8 hours 45 min ago
Hi,
Bonefishblues wrote:Doesn't just get, smashes would be appropriate, I think. A fitting end to a career.
We all like Jens (i thought it was Yens meself) but I dont know why he did it.
If I did it tomorrow they it would have to be what the UCI laid down with Eddy's bike.

Poor old Jens is not on the same list as Merkcx and Boardman, Wired wheels, I.M.O.

Others too come soon...........

Re: tablet for touring

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 8 hours 50 min ago
+1 for the nexus 7.

The big advantage when touring is it has a built in GPS chip, so things like OSMAnd run fine without any internet connection. Dead handy for spot fixing when in a town and your map isn't quite detailed enough or if you're throwing your plans out the window and off exploring.
Mine is in a neoprene case also and is two years old now. Has been in my panniers commuting every work day and been away with me. No problems.
If I want internet on it, I can use my mobiles internet share facility if needed when wifi is not around.

Re: Carrying a defibrillator

CTC Forum - On the road - 8 hours 59 min ago
Several of the villages in Cumbria have defibrillator machines installed outside the village halls, in locked cabinets, that the ambulance control centre give you the code to unlock the box, when you dial 999. They are all "idiot proofed" operation - the machine tells you exactly what to do & when. Most areas have first responder teams that usually arrive before the nearest ambulance, who have all the skills to preserve life. Not fool-proof, but re-assuring in such a rural area.

Re: Short Survey - Do you use service stations?

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 hours 34 min ago
In Tavistock this morning and called in at NatWest to pay in a cheque. Normally when I'm at the bank I lean Bike up at the outside window in full view of the public and of the bank customers, but recently I saw a chap lean his bike INSIDE the front foyer. Today, I did the same, and felt much happier

I went to the local theatre last nigh, full house for the Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain. In the queue to go in was a man carrying his folded bike.

Re: Jens gets Hour record

CTC Forum - Racing - 9 hours 59 min ago
I've just reread some of the rule changes, and I thought they were reinstating the efforts by Obree and Boardman, yet Boardman did 56k - so surely his is still "the hour record".

In mid 2014 the UCI decided to create the 'Unified Record,' scrapping the two existing records and effectively relegitimising Obree and Boardman's earlier attempts in the 1990s, however the record to beat would still stand with Sosenka's 2005 effort. The new ruling meant that riders no longer had to use bikes akin to Merckx's, but could now use modern pursuit style bikes with tri bars, disc wheels and aero frames. Fabian Cancellara, Bradley Wiggins and Tony Martin all expressed interest in attempting the Hour since the rule changed.

Of course the true "best human effort" is over 90km...

Re: tablet for touring

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 10 hours 29 min ago
If you happen to need a long battery life, the Lenovo Yoga 8 is particularly good. Whatever you decide, a neoprene sleeve is a good investment.

Re: Jens gets Hour record

CTC Forum - Racing - 10 hours 35 min ago
Doesn't just get, smashes would be appropriate, I think. A fitting end to a career.

Re: Jens gets Hour record

CTC Forum - Racing - 10 hours 41 min ago
i have always loved the hour record (tho' never had a bash yet myself!)

i've never quite understood the concept of finishing the last lap though and the calculation the it entails. is it just average speed over a full number of laps?

Re: Carrying a defibrillator

CTC Forum - On the road - 10 hours 44 min ago
TonyR wrote:661-Pete wrote:But even today, where would one have been found? It happened on a residential street, no shops nearby.


That is a serious point. I am sure there are defibrillators installed around where I live but I haven't a clue where they are. It would be a bit of an initiative test to find one in an emergency and I'm not sure there would be time to do that.
I thought the emergency services will tell you where the nearest one is when you call in an emergency. i.e. they ask you where you are and then say "Get somebody to go to ... where there is an emergency defib". Maybe I'm wrong on this but something I'd just assumed. Maybe they can only be used by trained people so need to be "collected" with somebody that knows how they work.

I know in our village we have a "1st Responder" person who is also St John's and the Parish Council wanted ne in the village but were refused as the individual was something like 1 mile from the geographic centre of the village (despite the village being very "distributed" and she was pretty well in the middle of the "population").

Ian

Re: Lewes Road Brighton- new facility any good?

CTC Forum - On the road - 11 hours 6 min ago
Pete Owens wrote:That cycle lane is very much thinner than 2m and will result in buses passing very much closer than they would if they were simply sharing the same overal width.

As that is just some sort of digital 'artists impression' I would hope that the lane is actually a genuine 2m as promised.

Pete Owens wrote:And that plan looks positively lethal. Cyclists are taken off the road to go behind a bus stop then re-emerge onto the carriageway brom behind a stopped bus just at the approach to a junction.

I see what your saying, but the issue will only be with other traffic wanting to enter the left turn lane for Hollingdean Road, the cycle lane is continuous and compulsory before and immediately after the bus stop and protected by being raised by 50mm then 25mm before finally continuing as a distinct marked lane- traffic going up the main(?) route straight ahead will not be in conflict with the cycle lane but cyclists wanting to turn right at the 'top' of the 'gyratory' will be needing to take more care and make movements across 'all vehicles' lanes, but hard to see how to avoid that. Another issue will be how pedestrians are enabled to cross the cycle lane to reach the bus stop- opportunity for conflict there.

Whenever anybody criticises a facility I do think they should back it up with their solution, or to say up front that they are opposed to all facilities...

EDIT: turning right at the top may be helped when traffic is stopped by the lights, due to the ASL (assuming compliant motor vehicle driving), but getting across when traffic is moving will be another thing altogether.

Re: Jens gets Hour record

CTC Forum - Racing - 11 hours 7 min ago
UCI clarified the rules, they are allowed to use full TT bikes.

Re: Jens gets Hour record

CTC Forum - Racing - 11 hours 9 min ago
They're allowing tri bars now?

Re: tablet for touring

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 11 hours 32 min ago
I've got a Nexus 7 2013 model 16 GB storage. It is light and thin, with excellent screen quality. I keep it in a padded neoprene case. Stuff it down the back side of my pannier.

I love it !!

Taken it on 2 long haul so far (SEAsia). It needs WiFi but works well for all internet stuff and apps. Internet cafes are becoming rarer and WiFi almost everywhere. I can do everything on it I used to do in the cafes.

Google maps are excellent, but you need to have opened the area in WiFi to allow you to see it in detail off line. GPS tells you exactly where you are. I wouldn't use it for full time navigating, but is useful if you are lost ; finding smaller roads than on paper map; or in big towns. If you wanted you could navigate but battery may be an issue if you can't charge each night.

Easier to see and type than smart phone. I don't use a phone when away so leave mine at home. My phone is too small (for me) for regular use, but I now find that I'm often using my tablet in preference to my PC.

Other cheaper tablets are available but I reckon the Nexus is worth the extra as it is so much better.

Re: Carrying a defibrillator

CTC Forum - On the road - 11 hours 50 min ago
661-Pete wrote:But even today, where would one have been found? It happened on a residential street, no shops nearby.


That is a serious point. I am sure there are defibrillators installed around where I live but I haven't a clue where they are. It would be a bit of an initiative test to find one in an emergency and I'm not sure there would be time to do that.
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