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Re: Ten Bike Touring Convoy!

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 August 2014 - 8:53pm
Brilliant, hope you all have a great time together and part as good friends

Re: Ten Bike Touring Convoy!

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 August 2014 - 8:49pm
Great photo!

Re: You Are A Bunch of Frauds

CTC Forum - On the road - 22 August 2014 - 8:22pm
puffin wrote: Sheez the Vanquish is stiff. Its also very short coupled.........
Are you sure that's a bike you've bought

......I cannot take my hands off to signal yet.
EEK!

........... Finally, comparing the graphs from the sat nav, it is not as fast going down hill.
I rather think it's all down hill from here

Re: Panniers vs Courier Bag (Commuting)

CTC Forum - On the road - 22 August 2014 - 8:19pm
Can't stand panniers. Much too much of a pain to carry about off the bike Used a rucksack/mono bag to commute since 1995. Personal choice really. If courier bags are so bad around town, why do couriers use them?

Re: You Are A Bunch of Frauds

CTC Forum - On the road - 22 August 2014 - 8:10pm
Nice try BigFoz... but I'm on to you speed merchants now. Its these turbo bikes you ride.

..and the first ride, far from warming me up, it actually knackered me.

Re: You Are A Bunch of Frauds

CTC Forum - On the road - 22 August 2014 - 8:00pm
The first ride warmed your legs up, allowing you to go faster second time...

Re: Hand signals on bike

CTC Forum - On the road - 22 August 2014 - 8:00pm
reohn2 wrote:honwal wrote:........as a foot note how many cyclist use hand signals

Everytime I manoeuvre,but it doesn't stop some maniacs from overtaking in some of the most dangeous circumstances,I could write a book.......

BTW it doesn't appear you did anything wrong,other than commit th cardinal sin of holding up someone who's more important than you

spot on

Re: Panniers vs Courier Bag (Commuting)

CTC Forum - On the road - 22 August 2014 - 7:59pm
One thing folks often don't consider is that with a rucksack or courier bag, any sudden stop (such as into the back of the transit that just overtook you and stopped) can cause the bag to hit you almost as hard in the back of the head as the vehicle does the front of your head.

Luckily the day it happened to me, I had left the laptop at work, and it didn't also drill into my skull at high velocity.

Ever since, I've user panniers, not matter how uncool, or how much extra weight the required hardware contributed.

Re: You Are A Bunch of Frauds

CTC Forum - On the road - 22 August 2014 - 7:56pm
Woah Rehon,
First off, I am not a real cyclist so have never changed a tyre. Never had a puncture to be honest. If I buy one of those tyres will I have to learn before long to fix a puncture?

I rode the new steed again today and am starting to understand the differences between road and touring bikes. One of them, as hinted, is comfort. Sheez the Vanquish is stiff. Its also very short coupled, frankly if it was a horse it would have been rapidly appearing at Tescos, so I cannot take my hands off to signal yet. Finally, comparing the graphs from the sat nav, it is not as fast going down hill.

advice -south east france/northern italy

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 August 2014 - 7:46pm
okay- want a tour that starts and finished in orange (provence)

we have got a month and would like to make the most of it -any suggestions

we tend to prefer quiet municipal typ campsites but never been across to Italy -any ideas -useful links etc

thanks all

beeb

Re: Weight of total gear for a 4 week tour in France

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 August 2014 - 7:40pm
I regularly tour for more than 4 weeks so my equipment list maybe of some help, you can find it here: http://www.bikepacker.co.uk/List.htm

Never weighed it so cannot answer that question.

Re: Notes from a flat country

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 August 2014 - 7:29pm
BE1 wrote:It's not the flat that bother's me but the headwinds. You have nowhere to hide: at least with a hill you can get off and push...
You are absolutely right. Luckily it was not too windy and I checked the winds before we left. We rode a loop and I wanted to know which would be easier, clockwise or anti. The wind would veer, therefore we chose a clockwise route.
Mjr, I've chosen routes to go in the direction of prevailing winds as much as possible, much like sailing. And thanks for the heads up on the meta tags. Don't really know what to do about it?

Re: Panniers vs Courier Bag (Commuting)

CTC Forum - On the road - 22 August 2014 - 7:21pm
brooksby wrote:...... Does using panniers instead of a backpack go with "maturing" as a cyclist?

Wisdom is a sign of maturity

Cool is a sign of fule

Re: You Are A Bunch of Frauds

CTC Forum - On the road - 22 August 2014 - 7:11pm
puffin wrote:Hi Onyeright
The Galaxy has Schwabe Marathon Plus, the Vanquish has very thin looking ones.

Ah didn't spot that particualar anomaly,get thee to yonder place and treat the old Gal to a pair of these:- http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/TYVIRNDHYP ... lding-tyre
Ride,and then be amazed

Re: Weight of total gear for a 4 week tour in France

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 August 2014 - 7:05pm
25kg between two of you is OK, not brilliant, but certainly not OTT. Your 16kg is about what I carry for solo touring, but adding another persons kit might not need to add 9kg, but these are not huge weights for touring with. When I was refining my kit, i reduced it too far and was uncomfortable, IME that being uncomfortable will spoil your trip far more than carrying an extra couple of kgs.
But I'd be surprised if you carried that much when walking, so where does the extra come from? When I walked I felt every gram in a way I haven't by bike, the danger is thinking, well it's only a couple of hundred grams and adding it, then before you know it it's several extra kilos.
Clothes can be a big weight saving, I don't have anything that can't be worn on as well as off the bike, and stuff you know is going to dry overnight is a bonus. The big advantage of two people sharing is the great weight savings by not duplication anything unnecessarily.

Re: You Are A Bunch of Frauds

CTC Forum - On the road - 22 August 2014 - 7:04pm
Puffin
So a gain of around 5%(?)
Now take out the new steed for an all day ride and see if it's still 5% faster

Re: Stefan Abrutat's Tour Travel Blog

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 August 2014 - 6:59pm
if u have time maybe add these pictures of the broken trailer bits to the original trailer thread, as I think that thread has become a rather useful set of notes on these cheapo trailers their pitfalls, mods and troubles and should be pinned so it isnt lost?

http://forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=77175

Re: My first tour (I didn't make it)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 August 2014 - 6:46pm
theDaveB wrote:Well this is what I have in the trailer -

Cooker in plastic case
Pan set
Plate, bowl, cup
Knife, Fork, Spoon
Bottle of gas
Tent
Sleeping bag
folding chair
blow up mattress
pump for mattress
torch
tarp (for covering bike if left outside in the rain)
multi-tool
Spatular
Spare skewers
Spare bars for trailer
Spare brake blocks
Inner tubes
d-lock + cable
Flag

16 bottles of lucozade (figured 4 per day) - I can't drink water while cycling it makes me feel sick
cooking oil
eggs
big bottle of water
bags of nuts
spare undies
trainers
socks

There may have been other stuff but quick look through and that was what I spotted.

My trailer cost £30 or £40 by the way, bought from this very site

Dave

what u list dont seem that bad but prob the bits not the lightest of their kind. You might be able to get a cheap light weight cycle cover from 99p store instead of the tarp. dont need brake blocks if u checked them before u left?
The lucozade and water maybe could be cut back - a bit more than u need for just one day or maybe 2, then buy some more at next town?

Where u went wrong was in the weight-distance-terrain matter. My gear like yours is not special light weight stuff, so I dont try to climb mountains( now). when I did my first tour with cheapo trailer I managed just 25 miles on roads or tarmaced tracks to my destination in about 4-5 hours with lots of stops( lol). And like you my legs ached afterwards for days.I didnt do much for those days lol. There are too many stories here of super-riders doing 60-70 miles a day with a full tour load here I think.


Ph - the extra skewers and bars are incase the ones that come with the trailer break - and they do -see
http://forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=88258
my skewer broke the 2nd time I used the trailer - the originals are a potential deathtrap
These cheapo trailers are cheap for a reason and need some user mods

Re: Weight of total gear for a 4 week tour in France

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 August 2014 - 6:13pm
davetb wrote:Hi Every one
Have just read with interest the topic "My first tour….." And thought I would ask the following from the 'experts' here. How much does their gear weigh. Chris and I are about to go to France for about 4 weeks touring. We will be camping and using small hotels gites etc. We are not beginners in light weight camping, but haven't done any cycle touring for quite a few yrs and that was in YHA's; mainly doing multi day walks in the Alps with bivvy gear. We cannot carry the weight on our backs any more. Chris has her gear down to two 15 L panniers (weight app. 9Kg) and a small bar bag; I am carrying all the camping kit and have it down to two 28 L (I think) panniers plus bar bag. Weight at moment app 16Kg. Its the tools and spares take the weight up:O) Tent is lighter than 2 bivvy bags, one concession is a full thermorest for Chris! mine is a short one, and a jet boil. Perhaps I ought to say our combined age is 140+ ) Well why not!
I would just like some ideas of weight to aim for without spending too much

Thanks Dave

I think you have cut down both the weight and volume very well. When I first started I filled 4 panniers but have now got it down to two rear panniers, a frame bag and a bar bag.

Re: My first tour (I didn't make it)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 22 August 2014 - 6:07pm
theDaveB wrote:Well this is what I have in the trailer -

Cooker in plastic case - dump the case
Pan set - 1 pan is usually enough for few days
Plate, bowl, cup - any 2 out of the three would do
Knife, Fork, Spoon - Only the three if they're light
Bottle of gas - Right size bottle for the trip
Tent - you have what you have though it's bigger than I'd use
Sleeping bag - like the tent
folding chair - I wouldn't, but some do
blow up mattress - OK
pump for mattress - Is it light?
torch - again, is it lightweight?
tarp (for covering bike if left outside in the rain) - I can't see the point
multi-tool - OK
Spatular - That's what your spoon is for
Spare skewers - ??
Spare bars for trailer - ??
Spare brake blocks - If you must, they don't weigh a lot
Inner tubes - ok
d-lock + cable - if it makes you happy to leave the bike
Flag - hahahahahah

16 bottles of lucozade (figured 4 per day) - I can't drink water while cycling it makes me feel sick - noooooooooo there must be somthing tht agrees with you that you can buy as you go.
cooking oil - all cooking stuff, buy when you need it
eggs
big bottle of water
bags of nuts

There may have been other stuff but quick look through and that was what I spotted.

My trailer cost £30 or £40 by the way, bought from this very site

Dave

Comments above, you don't say about clothes, that's where big savings can sometimes be made.
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