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Re: New to mountain bikes but willing to learn

27 January 2015 - 9:58am
Agreed John.

The mountain bike mags seem convinced that you need a minimum of 100mm travel on the rear and 120 on the front merely to ride to Tescos. They have advertisers to keep happy I suppose, but seem particularly self-serving here compared to magazines in other countries.

Re: Are mtb tyres changing?

27 January 2015 - 9:55am
I agree on the Panaracers - however they are being made again with the original tread patterns.

Having swapped off my (reissued) Smoke / Darts to Schwalbe Rocket Rons then firstly I notice the bike is about 700g lighter, plus the smaller knobs certainly don't squirm like the Smoke / Dart. I've run Rocket Rons for several years on my singlespeed and they definitely roll much faster and quieter. However the Smoke is brilliant in snow and sand, unlike almost any other tyre except the fabled and long-gone WTB Velociraptor.

Re: What's wrong with the Schwalbe Marathon Plus MTB?

25 January 2015 - 12:22am
The biggest problem seems to be they don't make it for a 29er, otherwise i'd have these for my briddleway winter hack.

Re: New to mountain bikes but willing to learn

25 January 2015 - 12:16am
Unless you want to ride off road & on mountains or trail centres you just don't need a 2grand bike. I ride to work (sustrans route down an old railway line and country lane with cattle grids, mud etc on a heavy ridgid 26 inck wheel bike, with frount 7 rear racks, it copes with most things. I also ride "proper" moutain bikes, I completed last years Mountain Mayhem 24 hour solo race on a steel framed Jamis Dragon, that i bought 2nd hand on Ebay for less than 400 quid, I used the same bike for last years "rough ride" and have now entered another 24 hour solo MTB event (the TwentyFour12) where I plan to use the same bike. I also run a aluminium frames 29 hardtail (which cost less than £300 to build up using a 2nd hand One On frame). and for more serious stuff an full sus 29er, which as an ex demo bike cost a grand, (I've propbably spent another £500 on upgrades, but its more bike than i really need for most trail centre red routes). Don't be fooled into thinking you need to buy the overprice bikes & kit the mountain bike mags try to sell you. Even brand new you can buy a nice hardtail that will do everything you want for well under a grand.

Re: Are mtb tyres changing?

23 January 2015 - 4:01pm
I've a feeling that it's as much to do with marketing as improvement - but that's most of bike design

Anyway, I'm now starting to panic as the last of my stash of Panracer Smoke & Darts are reaching the end of their lives

Re: Are mtb tyres changing?

23 January 2015 - 3:42pm
Did notice on my absolutely pathetic Michelin Cycle Cross Mud 2 which has gone in the bin does grip better than my chunky Shcwalbe Snow Stud which has old fashioned toffee sized blocks, so thanks for that!

Re: New to mountain bikes but willing to learn

22 January 2015 - 5:46pm
I used to live in Hertfordshire and my main experience MTBing there for 2 years was that mud clearance was everything. If you are going to ride the Chilterns then front suspension will be advantageous. I'm still not sold on Full Sus for much outside the Peaks / Pennines etc, or unless you ride lots of trail centres. There's a huge weight or cost penalty and they require more maintenance. I gave up on full sus and went back to a rigid singlespeed and a hardtail. However, I don't ride the monster stuff, more like 40 mile bridleway days out.

Re: My first ride on a 29er.

22 January 2015 - 4:51pm
It's a bike called a Saracen Kili Pro and it has a Suntour XCR fork which is a pretty basic affair, but it does spring and you can lock it out. It plus the tyres are fine for me. I ain't going to be doing any jumping on this steed!
I've never ridden a Brompton, but I have two bikes with 20inch 406 wheels, a Moulton APB which is ancient and a Tern p24h. You don't really seek out rough roads with the Tern, at least not diligently... A Brompton would be a burst blister ahead of that...

Re: My first ride on a 29er.

22 January 2015 - 12:17pm
Is that why Brompton riders are always grumpy old men in tweeds

Re: My first ride on a 29er.

22 January 2015 - 12:03pm
Any suspension (other than the annular pneumatics)?

Re: Burly blokes on the pavement - why?

22 January 2015 - 9:21am
Their mum told them not to ride on the road as it is dangerous

My first ride on a 29er.

22 January 2015 - 7:24am
I got my first MTB way back when they first appeared on this side of the Atlantic. It was a long wheelbase heavy Motobecane. Since then I've had 9 other ones, 4 of which I still have. All 26 inchers.
While cycling with Spaniards in Andalucia where we have a flat, I noticed that two of them who had 29ers, descended faster than me on road, coasting, where I should've been coasting past one of them because I'm a bit heavier (I was on a 26) and my bike was heavier than theirs, and I also noticed that a particular stretch of cobbles from hell bothered them not and was torture to me.

So, I bought a cheap 29er and went on my first hilly road ride yesterday. Surface excellent to poor. What did I think?

I absolutely loved it. It handles really well and the ride is definitely less "robust". I did not push it and I averaged 12mph on a route with 1000ft climbing and riding knobblies. I reckon it's a mile an hour faster than its 26 equivalent.

Re: Burly blokes on the pavement - why?

22 January 2015 - 7:06am
"Having the confidence for road riding..."

Well, I do both. I cycle on main roads as little as possible, cycle on minor roads a lot and go on really rough roads, unsurfaced stuff etc (mostly in Spain)...

Confidence in road riding is just a little bit of an illusion...

I'm cycling all my life (I'm nearly 65) and I'm getting less confident as the standard of driving is getting worse, a lot of drivers are on their phones and there isn't a policeman to be seen...

Re: Trail Manners?

21 January 2015 - 9:46pm
It does sound pretty ignorant.

You'd expect novices on such trails and ride accordingly, unfortunately there's always a small percentage of people in any group, be it mountain bikers, road bikers, walkers, car drivers, etc. Who seem to think they own the place.

I'd probably chalk it down to experience and and use it as a good example to your kids for how not to act, manners cost nothing etc.

Re: New to mountain bikes but willing to learn

21 January 2015 - 9:17pm
If you get the opportunity to try some out, that's the best bet.

From what you have said a hard tail front suspension bike would be more suitable. A full suspension bike would be a waste as it will add weight and and if you don't do any real down hill /off piste stuff the rear suspension will just be an energy drain.

I'm 6'3 and have a 22 inch frame, but frame sizes are a bit like shoe sizes, different makes can vary slightly.. If you're going to pay 2k, I'd expect the bike shop to fit you up properly and make any nessesary adjustments.

Re: Are mtb tyres changing?

21 January 2015 - 8:11pm
Pretty much agree with the above, smaller more spacial knobs shed mud much quicker, returning grip sooner and it allows for lighter construction.

Re: Are mtb tyres changing?

20 January 2015 - 12:13pm
I think it's largely because they were overkill for most things except sand and thick mud. Even thick mud just clogged them up. Smaller knobs seem to work just as well.

Re: Burly blokes on the pavement - why?

19 January 2015 - 5:06pm
I notice people in full on DH gear on the pavements around here too.

I'm guessing that, as CS said, they don't have the confidence for road riding - perhaps that's why they took up MTBing in the first place?

thing about MTBing too, is that if you've just done a sketchy DH and seen your life flash before your eyes, you might well be tempted to go back and redo it several times until you nail it. If you've just had a close pass by WVM on the road you probably won't want to go back and redo it until you work out how to beat it! Both have their dangers/perceived dangers but the approach to each invokes a different mind set.

Are mtb tyres changing?

19 January 2015 - 4:20pm
Is it me or are the days when you would see knobbly tyres with a sugar cube tread are becoming extinct? All seem to have wee blocks nowadays. Is there a reason for this?

Re: Burly blokes on the pavement - why?

19 January 2015 - 4:15pm
Seriously, a mountain bike cyclist, without the gear likes to hear the same tyre whine noise as an old army Land Rover as get asked for whiney or we say girny tyres just purely for the road! He hates slicks for the cycle paths as they are too quiet! So maybe as modern tyres are getting quiter they ride on a smooth surface to enjoy the noise, the very same noise Roadies hate!


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