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Re: New to mountain bikes but willing to learn

31 December 2014 - 1:07pm
First thing to note is that you are not allowed to ride on a public footpath (unless you have gained permission from the land owner), but you are allowed on bridle paths.

If it's mainly for country lanes with a bit of cycle route and the odd BW then I'd say that you'll be wasting your money on full suspension (or even front suspension)....it'll just make the bike heavier, require more maintenance and give you very little advantage in return.

I think that getting some bigger, grippy tyres (cyclo cross type) for the galaxy ought to allow you to do modest BW work if you are happy to go at modest speeds.

New to mountain bikes but willing to learn

31 December 2014 - 11:11am
Hi,
I'd like to buy myself a QUALITY mountain bike over the next 12 months or so (2 years at the most) and I'm open to suggestions. I intend to use the bike mainly for commuting to/from work on country lanes with the occasional riding on shared cycle routes/public footpaths in Hertfordshire. There are also lots of hills so lightwight steel would be good. What are the best tyres and wheels for this kind of terrain.
I'd also like a full suspension model and my budget is around £2k. I'm 6' 2" tall and my first question is what frame size to choose?I obviously need to test ride a few bikes so if anyone knows of any knowledgeable bike shops in the Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire or central London I'd be grateful. Also what magazine would everyone recommend for mountain bike newby like me.
Any questions please ask away.


PS. I'm riding a Dawes Galaxy touring bike at the moment and I wonder if I cant maybe adapt that (IE better tyres (Marathon Plus at the moment) in the meantime but thats a seperate topic.

Re: What's wrong with the Schwalbe Marathon Plus MTB?

30 December 2014 - 9:16pm
Hi,
If your are talked into a full MTB tyre (Title post) for on / off road then it will be more comfortable off road.
BUT it will be slower on road and off road and it will give less grip on the tarmac, and it will wear out very quickly.

Take your choice.

The title post tyre resembles a motorcycle "Motor Cross" Tyre, which is pretty useless on smooth surfaces, and will only out perform a standard trail tyre on grassy fields very deep mud and sand.

All the MTB guys use aggressive tyres which match the body armour and full suspension..............................

Tyre fling is what is used to shed debris from the tyre on a motorcycle, but only under power where you spin the rear tyre whilst moving and the centrifugal force removes the debris and when the tread comes back round to the ground the tread is free of what it picked up last rev and thus is fresh to give max grip.
The front tyre will bog down in the mud and make steering heavy and it will have a mind of its own which will then throw you off.
When you power the rear wheel and sit back the front wheel clears the mud and you then steer with the back wheel by moving your weight side to side, the front tyre glides across the top of the mud / loose surface.

NIETHER of these methods works on a human powered bike for obvious reasons, so an aggressive tyre does not work except on those surfaces that I have already mentioned.

Good luck looking hip and going slower than a shopper bike

Re: Dog walkers or horseriders?

30 December 2014 - 4:21pm
Sorry Lycra cyclists as they cycle flat out in heavily wooded areas, which not only nearly knocked me off, there was also a lady walking a blind dog, which they nearly hit and the cyclist were in pairs. My number one is sheep as they run towards you down to the road from the hills on unfenced roads!!! Coos that defecate and urinate on you if you stop to close behind when going to the farm for milking, have seen one poor cyclists being a victim, be warned coos see backwards!

Re: Entry Level Mountain Bike £300-£400

30 December 2014 - 4:15pm
Have a look at the Revolution range from edinburghbicycles.com

Re: tyre difference

30 December 2014 - 4:12pm
Stick to the much lighter Schwalbe Energizer Plus tyre for e-bikes which is also suitable for mountain bikes as well as hybrids. You could also try the Continental E-Contact or even the Schwalbe Marathon Plus as e-bike tyres are not that heavy if you use the right ones and are perfect for heavy mountain bikes used on the road. Do not like the Tour pattern as the simpler original is a far better tread and do not find it heavy either. All Plus tyres are a doddle to fit compared to Ralston MTB tyres!!!

Re: What's wrong with the Schwalbe Marathon Plus MTB?

30 December 2014 - 4:06pm
Thanks, hence my reason for changing to Continental E-Contact tyres at the rear and the Bronx Sport a more aggressive version of the Schwalbe City Jet for the front.

Re: What's wrong with the Schwalbe Marathon Plus MTB?

30 December 2014 - 11:53am
All you need off road is a semi block pattern with (preferably) a solid rubber centre portion.

No, all you need off road is a moderately wide slick. A combination of excellent riding ability and avoiding any terrain where that tyre is really out of its depth will do the rest.

Of course, for us mere mortals who want to ride anywhere and don't have Steve Peat like abilities, proper, fully treaded MTB tyres are always going to be so much better than slicks or semi-slicks.

As for the Schwalbe Marathon Plus MTB, there is more than one type: the 'tour' version won't be that good in typical British mud compared to a good MTB mud tyre or MTB all rounder as the tread isn't that well defined and it won't shed as easily. The plain 'Schwalbe Marathon Plus MTB' is an MTB tyre and will do you OK, but it has the two disadvantages of the normal M+....weighs a ton and can be a pig to get on and off the rim. If you are happy that the additional p*nct*re protection makes up for this then there's no reason why you shouldn't use them on an MTB.

Re: tyre difference

30 December 2014 - 8:51am
There's also a Marathon plus tour:- http://www.schwalbe.com/gb/tour-reader/ ... -tour.html
It say 'specially made for E bikes,which means even heavier.Yuk

Re: tyre difference

29 December 2014 - 11:12pm
Bikefayre wrote:The Schwalbe Marathon Plus is available two types of tread, the block one the MTB which is only an all terrain, the Smart Sam Plus is more of a proper mountain bike tyre is it not? Thought the MTB tread was based on their Alpine tyres and others simplified, is that wrong??

I never knew that.
http://www.spacycles.co.uk/products.php ... 6s120p3002

When some body say Marathon Plus this is what I think of.
http://www.spacycles.co.uk/products.php ... 2b6s142p31

Aaaa its full name is Marathon Plus MTB Got it!

Re: What's wrong with the Schwalbe Marathon Plus MTB?

29 December 2014 - 3:47pm
Hi,
1.9" is fine even with luggage, 2.1 unless you already have them or they are cheap not really necessary, 1.5 a bit slim but as a road bike mixed tyre would be the max you need.

Re: What's wrong with the Schwalbe Marathon Plus MTB?

29 December 2014 - 3:38pm
Hi,
You've been reading too many bike mags.

All you need off road is a semi block pattern with (preferably) a solid rubber centre portion.
The knobbly's with full block (aggressive) are slow and give no off road advantage but for more comfort at the expense of on road speed.

On motorcycles moto cross type tyres are only of use on deep mud, sand, and waterlogged grass fields.
A closed blocked pattern is best overall grip and road performance with best grip, bicycles need a solid centre section for ease of speed on the road.

Full block with wider gaps than the blocks are only of use in deep mud and loose surfaces (pure gravel) but the less rubber the worse grip on hard even ice surfaces.

The more aggressive the tyre the more comfort but less speed on / off road.

So yes a semi block is good for all conditions.

What's wrong with the Schwalbe Marathon Plus MTB?

29 December 2014 - 2:55pm
Please explain-What's the difference between a knobbly tyre that isn't a 'proper' mountain bike tyre such as the Schwalbe mentioned and a knobbly that's a 'proper' mountain bike tyre??? For myself thought the Schwalbe Ice Spiker is a 'proper' mountain bike tyre, is this right? Are not stupid would say tyres from Argos and Halfords would hardly be any use off road, yet a tyre from Schwalbe it should work? Was out using a city/trekking half knobbly from Bronx biking on sheet ice, black ice and frost at the front, [cyclocross rear], a mtb tyre, it was fine so if that works on the road and had it off road too, how is the Schwalbe not a 'proper' tyre when this definitely not 'proper' tyre works so well? Also know most off-road mountain bike tyres should be no less than 2.10 which both the Schwalbe mentioned are and would be silly to for the smaller 1.90 size for off-road! Someone told me the Schwalbe is not a 'proper' mountain bike tyre on this forum so would like to learn why, more so as have cycling before mtb tyres existed!

Re: So what you been up to in 2014

26 December 2014 - 1:53pm
Thanks enjoyed watching. Here's to a better 2015.

Re: So what you been up to in 2014

26 December 2014 - 12:44pm
Jumping Adam and Eve was a risk too far for me, I'd rather mix it with lorries on the bypass.

Re: So what you been up to in 2014

26 December 2014 - 1:02am
Thanks.

Enjoyed.

F

Re: Should I just stick with 26" wheels?

23 December 2014 - 8:29pm
Mattyfez wrote:Unless you have a specific reason to go 29, I probably wouldn't bother.

Buying a new bike would be a specific reason not to go 26".

Re: Should I just stick with 26" wheels?

23 December 2014 - 8:24pm
I've ridden 26 inch wheel bikes since they've been around and currently have 5, including my tourer.
I've been riding on tracks and genuinely off-road with Spanish lads in Spain and they have 29ers. Even though I'm as heavy as them, they descend faster and are much better on bad cobbles etc. I'm thinking of getting a 29er, not a 27.5. In for a penny, in for a pound.

Re: Should I just stick with 26" wheels?

22 December 2014 - 8:02pm
I don't see any reason not to go for a 26 before a 29, the generally cheaper choice and bigger range of tyres being the main reason.

Unless you have a specific reason to go 29, I probably wouldn't bother.

Re: tyre difference

22 December 2014 - 7:45pm
Schwalbe rocket ron up front and racing ralph up back seem to be a popular combo.

I currently have a pair of rocket ron fitted which seem pretty decent, fast rolling and llight compared to the draggy kenda ones my bike came with, and can cope with a bit of rough stuff too.

They are more cross country tyres though so as suggested above, if you are generally riding hard ground you might be better looking for a tyre with a solid or semi solid centre tread, with some knobbles on the outer sides.

Edit; I went for the folding version, mainly due to the weight saving over the wired ones, but they have the added bonus of being really easy to fit, you can fit and remove them by hand as opposed to using leavers if you partially inflate the tube.

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