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Univega Alpina

20 July 2014 - 6:26am
Hi all,

Not even sure this is classed as a mtb or if it's a hybrid? (if it matters)

Anyway, just rescued it from the oblivion of the scrap metal collector.

Just wondering what original components would have been on this ? (and is it approx 1994/5?)
Any info appreciated.

I'm not a mtb guy really so might make it more of a 'go anywhere' tourer. Anyone done a similar thing?


Univega skip find by Sooper 8, on Flickr

Re: Air or sprung suspension?

18 July 2014 - 4:52pm
Isn't the main advantage weight or rather lack of it?
I think in the early days air shocks were more primitive than they are now. Coil/oil shocks were generally a bit plusher and more reliable than air back then.

Re: Mountain Bike For Touring ?

16 July 2014 - 10:00pm



Hers mine... Works a treat

Re: Air or sprung suspension?

13 July 2014 - 12:01am
Coil/oil shocks are better at dealing with little bumps, air is better for big hits.
You need tighter seals with air units so the air doesn't leak out but this can lead to 'sticky' travel.
If a leak develops with an air unit, you can be left without suspension. If a coil/oil unit leaks, you still have suspension but might not have any damping and you'll be pogo sticking all over the place.
This is what I remember from my days as a mountain biker anyway, a while ago.

6th July 2014 A ride Winster

12 July 2014 - 8:04pm
Heading across Milnthorpe Marsh. by simeonorme, on Flickr

You can see rest of photos of 6th July ride to Winster at this link http://www.southlakesgroup.org.uk/2014p ... y/6th.html (the page may be slow to download due to large number of photos).

29th June 2014

12 July 2014 - 7:46pm
Heading up the public byway from the Old Hall Farm towards Colton. by simeonorme, on Flickr

You can see rest of photos of 29th June around Coniston Water at this link http://www.southlakesgroup.org.uk/2014p ... /29th.html and rest of ride photos of 29th June ride of the ride along the Walna Scar Road at this link http://www.southlakesgroup.org.uk/2014p ... 29tha.html

Re: Air or sprung suspension?

8 July 2014 - 1:37pm
graymee wrote:Air forks and rear suspension units seem to be the way ahead... what else?
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Re: Rock'n'hill in Croatia

8 July 2014 - 11:12am
Nice, but a little bit scary for my taste.

Re: Air or sprung suspension?

8 July 2014 - 11:09am
graymee wrote:Air forks and rear suspension units seem to be the way ahead but what are the advantages? If you had forks and rear sus units with the correct spring rating would they perform as well as air units? Ok, you can adjust the air spring rating to adjust for changes in the weight of you and/or your kit but what are the advantages/disadvantages?

I imaging springs are heavier but air will be costlier, what else?

But can you find good quality XC coil spring forks and rear shocks any more?

Re: 20spd

6 July 2014 - 5:39pm
thanks for the feed back.
Yeah, I'm not worried about the range - it's whether I'll be continually changing between big and little ring, rather than keeping it on the middle like I do now!

Re: 20spd

6 July 2014 - 5:24pm
My first MTB was 21 speed (3x7) and rode it with no problems.
So 20 speed isn't that much different.
Biggest difference must be like 50/34 compacts where, when changing from large ring to small, makes a very big jump in gearing.

Air or sprung suspension?

6 July 2014 - 1:15pm
Air forks and rear suspension units seem to be the way ahead but what are the advantages? If you had forks and rear sus units with the correct spring rating would they perform as well as air units? Ok, you can adjust the air spring rating to adjust for changes in the weight of you and/or your kit but what are the advantages/disadvantages?

I imaging springs are heavier but air will be costlier, what else?

Re: 20spd

5 July 2014 - 7:53pm
Just finished a trip with someone who broke his frame and bought a new 20spd to continue. Said the range was good and stopped a lot of faffing about with three rings. No personal experience though!

20spd

5 July 2014 - 5:27pm
I've always used either a single chain ring (with single sprocket) or a triple (with a load of sprockets) on MTBs. Looking at getting a new MTB....but it only comes in 2x10. Any thoughts on how much of a compromise this is - have you used a double on an MTB...how did you get on with it? Do you find that you are faffing around having to change the front all the time rather than making quicker changes to the rear?

Re: Dog walkers or horseriders?

4 July 2014 - 12:07pm
Psamathe wrote:Redvee wrote:Had a run in with a dog and owner last Sunday. I tried to remain calm and polite but soon lost patience with the owner as you can probably tell from the NSFW langauge I resorted to.


Accusing the behaviour of the dog as being aggressive and threatening is just ridiculous - the dog was showing play behaviour (barking is NOT a sign of aggression). I cannot understand quite why you felt threatened by the dog. Your bad language so quickly almost certainly made the situation far worse than it needed to have been. OK, the owner should have held the dog as you passed but I can see how your attitude would get her back up to be uncooperative.

Ian
I agree that the dog was showing play behaviour, but that 'play' was interfering with Redvee's ability to commute: The dog was darting in front of him every time he started off again, attempting to prevent him moving. Sure the dog was 'playing' but that play can be very frightening for those unfamiliar with dogs - and can in some dogs lead quickly to aggression if the play is not cooperated with. Oh, and some dogs also 'nip' (i.e. bite) 'in play'; this being natural between dogs. Personally I'd have responded to the dog playfully, got hold of its harness, walked it back to the owner and requested that she keep it there until I was out of range, with an assurance that I had no intention of playing with her dog and I found the assumption that I would, offensive.

Part of the problem is the owners - and your, assumption that 'everyone' knows when a dog is playing and is happy that this is not aggression. People with no interest in dogs should not need to learn about the different aspects of dog behaviour! To say that "Accusing the behaviour of the dog as being aggressive and threatening is just ridiculous" puts the onus on Redvee to learn about dogs and that is not where the responsibility lies. Legally, if someone feels threatened by a dog (as Redvee clearly did - with good reason as Redvee is not expected to be a dog behaviour expert), then the dog is out of control*. He quite reasonably asked her to control her 'playful' dog and she refused. IMO she is morally and legally at fault (but it wasn't A Good Idea to threaten to kick the dog).

*Reference: https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public
Controlling your dog in public wrote:Out of control

Your dog is considered dangerously out of control if it:

injures someone
makes someone worried that it might injure them

(my italics)

Re: Dog walkers or horseriders?

4 July 2014 - 11:00am
Redvee wrote:Had a run in with a dog and owner last Sunday. I tried to remain calm and polite but soon lost patience with the owner as you can probably tell from the NSFW langauge I resorted to.


Accusing the behaviour of the dog as being aggressive and threatening is just ridiculous - the dog was showing play behaviour (barking is NOT a sign of aggression). I cannot understand quite why you felt threatened by the dog. Your bad language so quickly almost certainly made the situation far worse than it needed to have been. OK, the owner should have held the dog as you passed but I can see how your attitude would get her back up to be uncooperative.

Ian

Re: Dog walkers or horseriders?

4 July 2014 - 12:20am
Had a run in with a dog and owner last Sunday. I tried to remain calm and polite but soon lost patience with the owner as you can probably tell from the NSFW langauge I resorted to.

Re: Dog walkers or horseriders?

3 July 2014 - 9:48pm
I guess mine could probably get lumped in with the "anti-motor vehicle posts blaming drivers for everything". It may seem that way if a cyclist makes a mistake and gets hit by a car and people blame cars. Instead of being anti-car people like me just view the motorists as having a much greater responsibility to other people on the roads - a duty of care if you like. Their presence and speed raise the stakes and turn something as safe as riding a bike or walking into something potentially lethal. It is not enough to say that the driver wasn't at fault like it's solely an issue of priority, the question is whether they could have forseen what happened, slowed, allowed space and prevented the collision. There is no such thing as 50/50 when one party ends up wiping the other's blood from their bonnet.

Now it would be hypocritical if we didn't apply this same logic to the tracks and trails of our countryside where we can be a danger to others enjoying their activities. Again, responsibility is not 50/50, we have a duty not to endanger others and must be prepared to slow or stop when necessary. That is not to say that we pose the same threat to pedestrians as cars do to us but we still can hurt people and animals if we hit them. We must ensure that this does not happen. The responsibility is ours.

Inconsiderate and obstructive behaviour by other path users is, of course, another matter entirely

Re: Dog walkers or horseriders?

3 July 2014 - 9:39pm
And to add, In the 9 months/2600 miles I've done around my local lanes I've seen plenty of dog walkers and passed plenty of horses (it's a horsey area). Not a single incident with a dog; most dog walkers see or hear me coming and if appropriate hold their dog by its collar whilst I pass (owners who don't have calm dogs that just ignore me). Not a single incident with horse; horse riders always say thanks (for slowing whilst passing) and exchange brief pleasantries.

In my early days I noted I was slightly disturbing the horses and one rider said it was my hi-vis waistcoat flapping in the wind so from then on I always held my hi-vis waistcoat to stop the flapping whilst passing horses and no issues.

Ian

Re: Dog walkers or horseriders?

3 July 2014 - 9:32pm
MDC wrote:Who gets your vote for the most irritating?
Abstain ... because our countryside should be for everybody to enjoy and we need to be considerate to all users.

So often on this forum there are "anti-motor vehicles" posts blaming drivers for anything and everything. Now we are "blaming" dog walkers and "blaming" horse riders. It is sounding like cyclists want everybody else to just get off everything and everywhere and have everything turned over for the exclusive use of cyclists.

A disappointing question.

Ian

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