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Fat bike and camp up Tal-y-fan

18 April 2015 - 9:04pm
so decided to get the bike packed and head up for a solo night out on the mountains...cold and very windy but a great little adventure

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM3B84s7t_Y

Re: Surly Big Dummy Handle Bar Width

12 April 2015 - 7:39pm
Cheers Rick. I did 6 miles today with about 20kg on the back and it all seemed tickedy boo. I'm going to leave it for now having taken off 20mm from each side and if I think it needs more off, I'll start with 5mm each time....b

Re: Surly Big Dummy Handle Bar Width

12 April 2015 - 6:52pm
Both my mountain bike bars and the straight bars on my Circe Helios (which in load carrier mode not dissimilar to the BD - it appears to be a similar overall length) got chopped down to about 53cm end to end, mainly because that was a short as I could get them by moving everything towards the middle as far as it would go.

I've never found myself thinking "I wish I had wider bars" but have on occasion been glad they weren't any wider. Before chopping the bars on the Helios (the MTB - a 1986 Muddy Fox but not the origianl bars - had the bars chopped long enough ago that I can't remember if I had problems) they wouldn't fit through A barriers in the Greater Manchester area (although they did just fit through ones around Chester - they must have different installation specs). On the Helios I wouldn't want the bars much narrower as I prefer the front bars to be wider, even if just by a small amount, than the stoker bars (when in tandem mode - which is for me the most frequent configuration) so I don't have to worry about getting stuck halfway through a narrow openings as we do use it on traffic free routes (which often have barriers of one sort or another) regularly.

Rick.

Re: Pumping up 29er 2.4inch tyres

12 April 2015 - 11:39am
Heltor Chasca wrote:That is a staggeringly beauty of a bike. You should be proud.......b

In a kind of rugged and windswept way,in a certain light I s'pose it could be described as beautiful.
Though I'd describe it as more 'honest workmanlike' myself
But thanks anyway

PS,If it strums yer strings here's some more photos:-
https://picasaweb.google.com/1046928466 ... directlink

Re: Pumping up 29er 2.4inch tyres

12 April 2015 - 11:33am
That is a staggeringly beauty of a bike. You should be proud.......b

Re: Pumping up 29er 2.4inch tyres

11 April 2015 - 11:51pm
Heltor Chasca wrote:..... I have just got to know about those mudguards. What have you cobbled together there with all those stays? Do you get any crud catching near the BB?....b

The m/guards are 65mm Blumels (from Spa £20 per pair),I bought two pair and used the two rears,one on the rear and one on the front.The rear fitted to the front has the 'L' bracket and one of the stay brackets from a spare front guard,pop riveted onto the (rear)longer front.The stays to front of the fork again are made from the spare ones and fixed to the mid fork lowrider brazeons.The rear has a deflector fitted and the front has a mudflap made from truck inner tube,that's within 30mm of the road surface.
With the m/guards and flaps fitted the bike and rider remain remarkably clean even in some very mucky winter conditions and the BB remains totally clean.
Here's the latest photo with some slight changes:-

Re: Pumping up 29er 2.4inch tyres

11 April 2015 - 7:46pm
reohn2 wrote:Bicycler wrote:It really doesn't take as long as you think to get wide mtb tyres up to the correct (low) pressure. It is a pain in the backside with a tiny mini pump but a decent pump should make light work of it.

BTW, the gauge version of the Mountain Morph is called the Turbo Morph (who thinks these names up?). I have that one.

There's a problem carrying a big frame fit pump on the bike,It doesn't fit anywhere ATM I'm carrying a small one in the rackpack but wondered if there was something better.I have a Mini Morph which is next to useless with big tyres


New bike R2?
Meet the Tractor :-


Yes...apart from still drooling over the bike and budgeting for a new pump (my 15 year old track pump has busticated seals) I have just got to know about those mudguards. What have you cobbled together there with all those stays? Do you get any crud catching near the BB?....b

Re: Surly Big Dummy Handle Bar Width

11 April 2015 - 7:22pm
Doh! I knew this would happen. I just can't keep still and need a project especially if the Sun's out.

I've sawn off 20mm each side and my initial 'feeling' is that it is more comfortable and it 'looks' more like MY bike. The extraordinary thing is that the saddle now feels like it is in a different position. I find bike/body geometry fascinating.

At least I can fiddle with the saddle but there is no way I can cut the handlebars longer now [emoji88]

Surly Big Dummy Handle Bar Width

11 April 2015 - 3:09pm
Although the Big Dummy isn't strictly a mountain bike I thought this would be the best place to ask. The geometry of the SBD is essentially a MB up front and the handle bars are Salsa Salt flat 700mm. I've fitted Ergo Biokorks with bar ends.

The whole set up just seems VERY wide to me. I know you need the extra stability from such wide bars, but 'as the crow flies' from one bar end to the other it is over 64cm. (Maybe the 70cm is the measurement along the curve of the bar)

I find getting the bike in and out of doors fiddly and there are 2 gates I use where I need to walk the bike through.

There are little calibrated, painted marks under the grips which I assume are suggested guides to where you can cut the ends off. I guess where this convoluted thread is going is: Should I start nibbling away at the bars until I find the width I like? Or should I just leave the set up alone and go with the maximum width considering my loads on this bike will border on the absurd?

Help...b

Re: Pumping up 29er 2.4inch tyres

10 April 2015 - 7:23pm
reohn2 wrote:Bicycler wrote:It really doesn't take as long as you think to get wide mtb tyres up to the correct (low) pressure. It is a pain in the backside with a tiny mini pump but a decent pump should make light work of it.

BTW, the gauge version of the Mountain Morph is called the Turbo Morph (who thinks these names up?). I have that one.

There's a problem carrying a big frame fit pump on the bike,It doesn't fit anywhere ATM I'm carrying a small one in the rackpack but wondered if there was something better.I have a Mini Morph which is next to useless with big tyres


New bike R2?
Meet the Tractor :-


I'm loving Mr Tractor. That's just my type of thing!...b

5th April 2015 ride to Sulber Gate

10 April 2015 - 4:52pm
Shadows on Pennine Bridleway Bridge over River Ribble by simeonorme, on Flickr

You can see rest of photos of 5th April 2015 ride to Sulber Gate at this link http://www.southlakesgroup.org/april-2015/5th.html

Re: Pumping up 29er 2.4inch tyres

10 April 2015 - 2:18pm
Vantage wrote:Not this by any chance is it?
http://m.evanscycles.com/products/bontr ... p-ec055417

I bought one a few months ago after my Topeak mini started leaking air from the tyres faster than it went in.
At the time it was £23 ish I think and so far I'm very impressed. Got my girlfriends 26x1.75 tyres up to 50psi easily and a club members 700x23 up to 110psi with a smidgen of effort after his mini morph fell to bits, literally. My favorite bit of this pump is the copied from Topeak but superior foot stand. Bontragers effort is an alloy box section which with the steel pin hinging it, slides back into the pumps end for extra reinforcement. I've not got the pump to hand to show this right now, but is a great deal stronger than I experienced with the mini morph.
The hose is nice and long too and the valve thumb lock easy to use.
Utter utter brilliant pump

Yep, that's the one - I haven't needed to use it yet but impressed with the design and feel of it, it's good to gear you've found it works well.

John

Re: Expected 'lifetime' of a 7005 alum frame??

8 April 2015 - 9:09am
Can any frame experts give an approx 'lifetime' for aluminium? 10 years max? 20 years?

Afraid not as it's not just about the material but the way that it has been put together.

For instance I've had 7005 frames from a certain maker that often broke within the first year, whereas I've had 7005 frames from another that were going strong at least ten years after getting them.

And my Zaskar (which is 6061 I think) is coming up to its 20th birthday and has been ridden hard all of its life.

Expected 'lifetime' of a 7005 alum frame??

7 April 2015 - 2:47pm
I have a quick question: With a short off road ride once each week, plus a 10 mile commute everyday in all weathers, how long APPROX would an aluminum 7005 frame be expected to be roadworthy (assuming of course, no crashes or accidents)??

Can any frame experts give an approx 'lifetime' for aluminium? 10 years max? 20 years?

(I'm thinking about buying a well looked after frame that is now 10 years old)

GBR.

Re: Pumping up 29er 2.4inch tyres

7 April 2015 - 10:54am
I bought one of these as new(thanks Ali ) from a forum member:- http://www.topeak.com/products/Pumps/TurboMorphG
It does a brilliant job,well pleased

Re: Pumping up 29er 2.4inch tyres

6 April 2015 - 8:10pm
Not this by any chance is it?
http://m.evanscycles.com/products/bontr ... p-ec055417

I bought one a few months ago after my Topeak mini started leaking air from the tyres faster than it went in.
At the time it was £23 ish I think and so far I'm very impressed. Got my girlfriends 26x1.75 tyres up to 50psi easily and a club members 700x23 up to 110psi with a smidgen of effort after his mini morph fell to bits, literally. My favorite bit of this pump is the copied from Topeak but superior foot stand. Bontragers effort is an alloy box section which with the steel pin hinging it, slides back into the pumps end for extra reinforcement. I've not got the pump to hand to show this right now, but is a great deal stronger than I experienced with the mini morph.
The hose is nice and long too and the valve thumb lock easy to use.
Utter utter brilliant pump

Re: Burly blokes on the pavement - why?

3 April 2015 - 8:52pm
I seem to be winning with bells: a single loud brringg before I'm close enough to make them jump seems to wwork almost every time.

But then, there's lots of bikes around West Norfolk.

Re: Pumping up 29er 2.4inch tyres

3 April 2015 - 7:01pm
I have a little Bontrager mini track pump which is around the same size and weight as the hand pump I had but vastly better for pumping up tyres, I came across it oddly enough when a friend on a Genesis Longitude punctured a wheel a ride and one of others in the group had this little track pump.

John

Re: Burly blokes on the pavement - why?

3 April 2015 - 6:59pm
I've never seen any MTB groups that ride on the pavement up here, certainly none of the groups I've been out with do that and can't see why they would.

John

Re: Should I just stick with 26" wheels?

3 April 2015 - 6:56pm
I don't understand why people get so up in arms about wheel sizes, there are advantages and disadvantages to the various sizes so it's case of choosing whatever suits your needs which is pretty much the same with the rest of a mountain bike - there's no one setup that can do it all perfectly so there's always choices for frame material, gear systems, suspension, suspension travel etc.

27.5+ certainly looks very interesting, 3in wide and similar diameter to a 29er that should fit in some existing 29er frames as well as more of the fat bikes. There is an existing 29+ standard but due to the larger diameter it tends to only fit in specific frames for it leaving it too big for 29er frames and a lot of the fat bike frames. It should be a good all round tyre for off road with a bit more traction than standard tyres but not quite the heft of the fat bike tyres.

John

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