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Re: Burly blokes on the pavement - why?

30 January 2015 - 10:43pm
MTBers that I have met at Cannock Chase never ride road out of fear and stick to driving there even though the place is on there doorstep!
Weekends I often see riders Walk and Cycle on the narrowest bit of pavement ever created I cycle to Birmingham town centre catch a train up then Cycle to the Chase. The roads are country narrow type roads and drivers think it's race track! Even the ones with bikes on top of the cars!

Re: Burly blokes on the pavement - why?

30 January 2015 - 5:46pm
I ride both disciplines.

I ride on the road when doing MTB on my own but when leading a group ride I go up empty pavement sections whenever possible. MTB riders are generally used to riding in single file on group rides unlike roadie groups who quite often seem to double up to take up the space of a car (no objection it's safer).

There's also (generally) a greater speed differential between MTB's and cars compared to roadies and cars. Plus quite often road parts of MTB routes tend to be on more remote twisty country lanes. These mean cars are often very close far more quickly than they thought they would be, and through no actions of the riders. This can lead to some scary moments.

Another reason is that, rightly or wrongly, it can be frustrating for cars to have to wait behind a single row of 6 or 7 much slower moving vehicles so being on the pavement avoids that which can lead to conflict.

Don't forget aswell, on an MTB ride the roads are really just a an annoying distraction from the real fun. They serve 3 purposes: getting to the trails; connecting the trails; and getting home from the trails. There's no technical challenge riding along a road on an MTB (unless you count potholes!) Road sections are usually a chance to take a breather, have a catch up, rehydrate, etc.

It's totally different for me on the roadie I feel much more visible to other road users & part of the traffic flow, which is a lot more comfortable.

Re: Are mtb tyres changing?

29 January 2015 - 3:58pm
Would say the Schwalbe Ice Spiker Pro is probably the closest you would get to the old Panaracer.

Re: Schwalbe Now Do A 29 Inch Plus Tyre!!!

29 January 2015 - 3:55pm
The Smart Sam has been out for a year and they do other excellent 29 inch tyres both Spike and Trekking slicks. You could arguably fit wider 700c tyres to a 29 inch though think it would be a wee bit on the narrow side if you went less than a 35C! schwalbe.com will show their full range.

Re: Schwalbe Now Do A 29 Inch Plus Tyre!!!

27 January 2015 - 6:27pm
I'm surprised no-one has beaten me to pointing out that 29 inch is the US name for 28×1⅝" aka 700c or 622mm, so surely Schwalbe already did a LOT of them? Is it that they've started doing MTB patterns or widths?

Re: Are mtb tyres changing?

27 January 2015 - 5:27pm
However the Smoke is brilliant in snow and sand, unlike almost any other tyre except the fabled and long-gone WTB Velociraptor.

Did you ever try the old panracer Spike? The one with the health warning on it telling you that the tread was so extreme that you were sure to die if you used it on the road

Very good in sand, mud or snow. It was usable on the road but progress was not fast to say the least, and laying the bike down in tight bends was to be avoided!

Schwalbe Now Do A 29 Inch Plus Tyre!!!

27 January 2015 - 4:43pm
billys.co.uk now do the 29 inch Schwalbe Smart Sam Plus tyre and it's a knobbly!!!

Re: What's wrong with the Schwalbe Marathon Plus MTB?

27 January 2015 - 4:38pm
billys.co.uk do the 29 inch Schwalbe Smart Sam Plus tyre in 29 inch which does the same job as the Marathon Plus MTB.

Re: Are mtb tyres changing?

27 January 2015 - 4:23pm
Have you had a look at Bronx tyres as they do Old School Knobblies for 559 rims? These can be got from amazon.co.uk or woollyhatshop.com For myself are ditching knobblies for Trekking Slicks which are surprisingly good on muddy untarred tracks.

Re: New to mountain bikes but willing to learn

27 January 2015 - 10:08am
For £2k you can get an exceptionally good quality full carbon CX bike that on the country lanes and bridleways will be the fastest bike out there.
e.g. http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CBPXXLSCX1 ... cross-bike even though that's overkill unless you're racing it (even then).

I often ride decent bridleways and the likes on my road bike without problems.

Re: New to mountain bikes but willing to learn

27 January 2015 - 9:58am
Agreed John.

The mountain bike mags seem convinced that you need a minimum of 100mm travel on the rear and 120 on the front merely to ride to Tescos. They have advertisers to keep happy I suppose, but seem particularly self-serving here compared to magazines in other countries.

Re: Are mtb tyres changing?

27 January 2015 - 9:55am
I agree on the Panaracers - however they are being made again with the original tread patterns.

Having swapped off my (reissued) Smoke / Darts to Schwalbe Rocket Rons then firstly I notice the bike is about 700g lighter, plus the smaller knobs certainly don't squirm like the Smoke / Dart. I've run Rocket Rons for several years on my singlespeed and they definitely roll much faster and quieter. However the Smoke is brilliant in snow and sand, unlike almost any other tyre except the fabled and long-gone WTB Velociraptor.

Re: What's wrong with the Schwalbe Marathon Plus MTB?

25 January 2015 - 12:22am
The biggest problem seems to be they don't make it for a 29er, otherwise i'd have these for my briddleway winter hack.

Re: New to mountain bikes but willing to learn

25 January 2015 - 12:16am
Unless you want to ride off road & on mountains or trail centres you just don't need a 2grand bike. I ride to work (sustrans route down an old railway line and country lane with cattle grids, mud etc on a heavy ridgid 26 inck wheel bike, with frount 7 rear racks, it copes with most things. I also ride "proper" moutain bikes, I completed last years Mountain Mayhem 24 hour solo race on a steel framed Jamis Dragon, that i bought 2nd hand on Ebay for less than 400 quid, I used the same bike for last years "rough ride" and have now entered another 24 hour solo MTB event (the TwentyFour12) where I plan to use the same bike. I also run a aluminium frames 29 hardtail (which cost less than £300 to build up using a 2nd hand One On frame). and for more serious stuff an full sus 29er, which as an ex demo bike cost a grand, (I've propbably spent another £500 on upgrades, but its more bike than i really need for most trail centre red routes). Don't be fooled into thinking you need to buy the overprice bikes & kit the mountain bike mags try to sell you. Even brand new you can buy a nice hardtail that will do everything you want for well under a grand.

Re: Are mtb tyres changing?

23 January 2015 - 4:01pm
I've a feeling that it's as much to do with marketing as improvement - but that's most of bike design

Anyway, I'm now starting to panic as the last of my stash of Panracer Smoke & Darts are reaching the end of their lives

Re: Are mtb tyres changing?

23 January 2015 - 3:42pm
Did notice on my absolutely pathetic Michelin Cycle Cross Mud 2 which has gone in the bin does grip better than my chunky Shcwalbe Snow Stud which has old fashioned toffee sized blocks, so thanks for that!

Re: New to mountain bikes but willing to learn

22 January 2015 - 5:46pm
I used to live in Hertfordshire and my main experience MTBing there for 2 years was that mud clearance was everything. If you are going to ride the Chilterns then front suspension will be advantageous. I'm still not sold on Full Sus for much outside the Peaks / Pennines etc, or unless you ride lots of trail centres. There's a huge weight or cost penalty and they require more maintenance. I gave up on full sus and went back to a rigid singlespeed and a hardtail. However, I don't ride the monster stuff, more like 40 mile bridleway days out.

Re: My first ride on a 29er.

22 January 2015 - 4:51pm
It's a bike called a Saracen Kili Pro and it has a Suntour XCR fork which is a pretty basic affair, but it does spring and you can lock it out. It plus the tyres are fine for me. I ain't going to be doing any jumping on this steed!
I've never ridden a Brompton, but I have two bikes with 20inch 406 wheels, a Moulton APB which is ancient and a Tern p24h. You don't really seek out rough roads with the Tern, at least not diligently... A Brompton would be a burst blister ahead of that...

Re: My first ride on a 29er.

22 January 2015 - 12:17pm
Hi,
Is that why Brompton riders are always grumpy old men in tweeds

Re: My first ride on a 29er.

22 January 2015 - 12:03pm
Any suspension (other than the annular pneumatics)?

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