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Re: ITV TdeF coverage; any good?

22 July 2014 - 3:21pm
For years I've been looking for the music ITV use for the advert breaks. If only because it annoys my wife!

Re: ITV TdeF coverage; any good?

22 July 2014 - 2:59pm
I looked that song up as well. It's a right earworm.

Overall the coverage is OK. Phil and Paul are rather "same procedure as every year" (search if you don't know that phrase) and many feel they discredited themselves being a bit too pro-Lance, but they do an often-difficult job fairly well, balancing live and highlights-as-live commentary for multiple networks who probably take adverts at different times (itv, NBC and SBS at least I think) which I think is part of the reason they repeat themselves and/or each other. If you want to discover how difficult this balancing act can be, look for Vuelta coverage I think in 2011 where poor Matt Keenan was trying to do the English-language singlehanded and was repeatedly completely tripped up by the pictures director, probably unintentionally. I agree with Mark1978 that the as-live commentary on the highlights can be disjointed, but I prefer it to the just-for-the-highlights commentary that itv uses on some other races - most recently, Hugh Porter on the Women's Tour I think: sometimes it gives the twist away before it appears in-picture, other times it papers over jumps/cuts in the pictures.

And yes, the adverts are the biggest drawback: there too many little breaks and often something interesting happens during them. Balancing the race with the regulations on advertising isn't easy and something itv have harder than Eurosport or France 2/3, I think.

But counterbalancing that, Gary Imlach's pieces to camera are often works of art and the Chris Boardman Neducational films are fast heading that way, while Chris is also a pretty sound pundit with some great humour, Ned is also a decent reporter (and asks more questions recently) and Matt Rendell is amazingly knowledgeable and versatile. The occasional extra people like Jill Douglas and David Millar are usually pretty good, more successful than the more hit-and-miss of itv Vuelta guests. And itv often stays around for the presentation ceremonies, which Eurosport rarely does, sometimes even cutting short so they can start early on recorded coverage of something rather dull.

So that's got too long. In short, if I'm watching live, I watch itv and flip to Eurosport or France 2/3 during badly-timed ad breaks. If I'm watching highlights, itv's better packaging and consistent timing always beats Eurosport's randomly-rescheduled replay of usually just the last hour. itv's podcast is also the best available. The main thing not to like is the confusing itv website.

Re: ITV TdeF coverage; any good?

22 July 2014 - 2:54pm
I think the highlights can stand some improvement since the commentary is disjointed as it's taken directly from the live coverage. The commentary you do for a full live stage isn't the same as you do for highlights.

I am liking this year that the rest day coverage is interesting. Previous years it's just been highlights of previous stages.

I do this Chris Boardman and Ned Boulting make a good pair presenting and giving some insight.

(currrently watching the ITV4 live coverage)

ITV TdeF coverage; any good?

22 July 2014 - 2:27pm
For the most part I give it a big thumbs up, what say you folks?

BTW I particularly enjoyed the montage of aerial shots they showed at the end of the highlights show yesterday; it reminded me of why it is that I like going places on my bike.

The song they played over that montage was 'my silver lining' by a group called 'first aid kit'. You can see the lyrics here;

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/firstaidkit/mysilverlining.html

cheers

Re: Paris

22 July 2014 - 1:47pm
The Bowler, (English pub), on Rue d'Artois which is a few streets back should be good.

Re: Draft Legal Tri Bars

22 July 2014 - 12:13am
it all sounds rather complicated but it is laid out here;

http://www.slowtwitch.com/mainheadings/techctr/trirules.html

which may or may not mean that you need them to be draft legal.

Years ago I bridged some tribars by using a very high-tech method; a length of broom handle and two wood screws; not because I had to, but because it made the whole thing stiffer and gave me somewhere better to mount my gear levers.

I'm not sure of the reasoning behind the bridging clause, but I note that it does not appear to say that the bridge has to be at the ends of the bars (which would be sensible if you were worried about them making holes in people) or that the bridge has to be at all strong or anything. Some appear to have a token flimsy piece of plastic as a bridge.

My suspicion is that by the time you have found a set that will physically fit to your handlebars and give a comfy position, you will have weeded out about 90% of the bars on the market, so making a shortlist and then choosing from that would seem like a good idea.

cheers

Draft Legal Tri Bars

19 July 2014 - 12:11pm
My son is now competing in an age group where he can use tri bars in his triathlon competitions. He has been told that they need to be draft legal; as we understand it they cannot extend beyond the brake hoods and must be bridged. Any recommendations for either a reasonably priced set of tri bars or which ones can be successfully modified. Also, if modified, what models of bridge are available.

Re: Tony Martin

17 July 2014 - 5:21pm
Is there somewhere we can do that or is it all kept secret? It would be interesting.

Re: Tony Martin

17 July 2014 - 10:40am
Given that all the riders use power meters now can we establish who uses the most energy on a stage (and of course, the least)

Re: Tony Martin

16 July 2014 - 10:13pm
At it again today too, at least he'd had a rest day.

Re: [SPOILERS] Carbon Fibre....

15 July 2014 - 5:21pm
not as good as our own Mr Thomas completing last years event after breaking his hip on Stage 1 - Contador you wimp! lol

Re: [SPOILERS] Carbon Fibre....

15 July 2014 - 10:52am
Bike broken on the roof - yet another "don't put it on the roof" story to add to all those driving into their garages...

Contador get's the "tough as nails" award for cycling, at TdF speeds, uphill, 20km with a broken leg!!!

Re: [SPOILERS] Carbon Fibre....

15 July 2014 - 12:50am
The article from Velonews suggests the bike was broken by the Belkin team car.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/07/ ... ash_336328


http://t.co/8Tz8uUNOlj

Re: Tony Martin

14 July 2014 - 11:34pm
He's one incredible powerhouse!

Re: [SPOILERS] Carbon Fibre....

14 July 2014 - 11:21pm
well there are many different versions of events out there. Velonews and the Guardian are worth a read.

cheers

Re: [SPOILERS] Carbon Fibre....

14 July 2014 - 11:03pm
From what they said on the coverage on ITV4, the broken frame was spotted on top of the team car, but this had been caused by it falling off the team car when they were changing Nicolas Roche's wheel, shortly before Contador's crash, I think that's what they meant had happened anyway.

Re: Tony Martin

14 July 2014 - 11:00pm
I was worried he wouldn't finish today when he finally moved off the front, was hardly moving.

Re: [SPOILERS] Carbon Fibre....

14 July 2014 - 10:58pm
definitely there is a leg with a temporary cast on it, and a broken frame with a #31 race number on it, and the question is what caused that....

I just posted some links in the Ad Nauseam thread.

cheers

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