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Re: <Spoilers> Rain.... [SPOILERS]

14 July 2014 - 2:30pm
Ontherivet77 wrote:Is it me or are some pro bike riders incapable of handling a bike in the wet. The amount of crashes is unreal. Nibali didn't seem to have a problem because he has good bike handling skills, perhaps some of these riders need to get out in difficult conditions or do a bit of mountain biking to improve their bike handling.
At least one team does send their riders doing cyclocross over the winter...

[SPOILERS] Carbon Fibre....

14 July 2014 - 2:29pm
Frame snapping in the tour - I'd like to see if we see how

Contador has some work to do...

Re: Accidental Death of a Cyclist

14 July 2014 - 10:56am
I haven't seen the film but Rendell's book about Pantani tells a story of an insecure person being exploited and sucked dry by those around him.
A sad tale indeed of a man with so much talent in an age where drug in sport is a constant problem.

Tony Martin

14 July 2014 - 10:48am
well!

Re: <Spoilers> Rain.... [SPOILERS]

14 July 2014 - 9:27am
Is it me or are some pro bike riders incapable of handling a bike in the wet. The amount of crashes is unreal. Nibali didn't seem to have a problem because he has good bike handling skills, perhaps some of these riders need to get out in difficult conditions or do a bit of mountain biking to improve their bike handling.

Re: A sunday in hell

14 July 2014 - 12:15am
a classic, some great documentary filmmaking from the 1970s with a little whiff of the Nouvelle Vague. Some of the off-race scenes are great too, like the punters in the Valenciennes bar and those showers in the Roubaix velodrome, which look like a concentration camp. pretty weird.

Re: A sunday in hell

13 July 2014 - 10:01pm
I really enjoyed it; seeing those guys (who were my cycle racing heroes when I was a nipper) riding Paris Roubaix was fantastic. Mercx's saddle tweaking obsession laid bare too!

Call me an old fuddy-duddy if you like, but to my eyes the bikes those guys rode were rather wonderful; I dreamed of having a bike with a Nuovo Record gruppo on it and when I finally got one, years later, I hardly wanted to ride it in case (God forbid) I spoiled its perfect beauty.

Of course modern bikes are lighter, faster etc but I do not think that cycle racing (as a sport) is in any way improved by this. I found it interesting that a field as large as the TdeF needed only fifteen team cars in support and most of them had only two bikes on board. Despite numerous incidents, (and in contrast to several of the pile-ups in this year's TdeF where riders have seen their rear dropouts come free in a prang) I didn't see anyone need a bike change, only wheel changes.

cheers

Re: A sunday in hell

13 July 2014 - 5:17pm
It can be seen on BBC iplayer for the next four days as well.

Re: <Spoilers> Rain.... [SPOILERS]

12 July 2014 - 2:06pm
if you haven't read it elsewhere its been confirmed that Froome has fractures in left wrist and right hand; suspect he was riding with one of those before he went down in the rain before le pave. enough to limit anyones bike handling....ouch!

Re: <Spoilers> Rain.... [SPOILERS]

11 July 2014 - 8:24pm
Just shows how divided opinions are. The last word given to Robbie McEwen sums it up for me:
Robbie McEwen (three-time green jersey winner, 12-time Tour stage winner): ”Sux 4 some riders but whatever the consequences of today’s #TDF2014 stage – that was the most exciting race I’ve ever watched #hopeallOK.”

Re: <Spoilers> Rain.... [SPOILERS]

11 July 2014 - 4:41pm
At the end of the day most of the crashes weren't on the pave. Just a lot of crashes in the wet weather this year.

Re: <Spoilers> Rain.... [SPOILERS]

11 July 2014 - 3:44pm
Today's finish in Nancy is known to be tricky. If you want to see the riders coming off bikes on a wet finish YouTube the last time the tour visited there in 2005. Nasty stuff

Re: <Spoilers> Rain.... [SPOILERS]

11 July 2014 - 3:15pm
Paul Sherwen just reiterated that there were 41 'official crashes' (whatever that is) on stage five.

Maybe I'm thinking of the last wet TdeF visit to the pave?

cheers

Re: <Spoilers> Rain.... [SPOILERS]

11 July 2014 - 3:02pm
Brucey wrote:maybe once every 20 years is about right.... they were included in the 1980s once but I don't remember them since then.
They featured in 2010 (article). Don't know if there were any others - I remembered it (but had to check what year) for Lance Armstrong losing time there.

Rick.

Re: <Spoilers> Rain.... [SPOILERS]

11 July 2014 - 2:43pm
maybe once every 20 years is about right.... they were included in the 1980s once but I don't remember them since then.

It was exciting, no doubt about it. Confusing, too, but exciting, and it will make for an interesting race later on. I do wonder if the price was a little too high; maybe it wouldn't have been If it had stayed dry.

BTW on stage 6 one crash was caused because the road surface was simply smooth and worn out; they must have known this because they had 'repaired' the road by using tar and chippings on the inside of the bend, on the apex only. On the outside of the corner, or in the braking zone, it was just as slippy as anywhere else....

About half or more of the abandons since stage 5 (including several today) are because of injuries that were sustained in the last couple of days; about two days after a prang the chickens come home to roost ache-wise and riders realise that they can't carry on.

cheers

Re: <Spoilers> Rain.... [SPOILERS]

11 July 2014 - 1:06pm
According to the Tour's website, there was only one rider who did not start in Stage 6, Lampre's Richeze.

Cobbles have appeared several times in the TdF, although Stage 5 was pretty epic. They may not appear again next year, just as a particular col might not either, but you can be sure they will be back again another year. But maybe you're right. Maybe they are too risky for too many riders and shouldn't be part of the Tour. I dunno now. But did you not find the cobble sections ... gripping?

cheers

Re: <Spoilers> Rain.... [SPOILERS]

11 July 2014 - 9:39am
well the '40 to see the doctor' thing was reported the following day, after the dust had settled. I dunno if that makes it more or less likely to be sensationalism.

Although it was reported that only Froomy had abandoned on stage 5, I think there were several others who didn't make the stage 6 start.

I don't disagree with much of what you say either. I guess we'll find out if they think this is how the TdeF should be in future when they announce next year's route.

In general terms I think that crashing should be a risk rather than a near-certainty. I wonder how many riders in this years TdeF will not have crashed at some point by the end of the race?

cheers

Re: <Spoilers> Rain.... [SPOILERS]

11 July 2014 - 8:33am
Some valid points, but the tellie commentary you refer to sounds like an exaggeration, part of the sensationalism that you otherwise seem to criticise. The fact of the matter is only one rider abandoned the race in Stage 5, before the cobbles, and ostensibly due to a crash in the previous stage. If Froome hadn't withdrawn, would you still feel the same way? Cobbles are brutal, as is the whole race, but the organisers can't be blamed for the rain and they did remove a couple of sections before the start. IMHO, including some cobbles in a northern stage makes the race less boring and adds an interesting historical dimension.

cheers

Re: <Spoilers> Rain.... [SPOILERS]

11 July 2014 - 7:23am
well over 40 to see the doctor on stage 5 was reported on the ITV coverage, and if they had that many in on every mountain stage, they would soon do something about it.

Paris Roubaix is a tough race in its normal incarnation but it is normally run differently to the way stage 5 was, e.g.

- they run further before the first pave section
- the first pave section is usually wider than the one they used

and both things allow the field to break up more easily once they are running on the pave.

In fairness the tour organisers were unlucky (or lucky...) because of the rain and the largely tailwind conditions.

cheers

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