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Re: Doping culture still exists.

17 July 2015 - 7:58pm
It must be soul-destroying to be clean and face the fact that your competitors are doping and beating you as a result, with the insult added to injury being that you yourself will be suspected of it and/or even accused of it, either behind your back, or even to your face in interviews.

Re: ITV4 Tour Coverage.

17 July 2015 - 7:47pm
Bicycler wrote:In 2013 the phrase "23 year old Columbian climber" seemingly prefixed every mention of Nairo Quintana along with the daily repetition of some trivial story about how he used to ride miles uphill to school. I had my leg in plaster at the time and saw pretty much all the televised live coverage of that race. Through no fault of his own poor Nairo had me wishing he'd have to abandon so I didn't have to hear it every day all the way to Paris.

I also really enjoy hearing about which particular dates French châteaux were renovated. I get that it's an opportunity to publicise the area, so don't object to their mention but do we really need the dull details? Does the fact that there was a fire in 1927 and a renovation in 1933 really entice the tourists?

I wish someone would stop whoever-it-is saying X 'years of age' rather than 'years old'. Once is a novelty, twice is just odd, but all the time and it sets my teeth on edge.

(I see I'm not the only one who this darned phrase winds up, having read more posts.)

Re: ITV4 Tour Coverage.

17 July 2015 - 7:44pm
Paulatic wrote:+1 for Ned & Millar
Millar is a lot more informative regarding tactics

Phil & Paul seem to spout a load of rubbish. Tonight was full of many examples. Quite a laugh listening to them in this house as we pick out the statements they will contradict within the next five minutes. and of course the usual mentioning of riders, with no hope or action at the time, from countries I reckon they must sell the program to.

Levi Leipheimer was always the perfect example of it. I used to count how many times they mentioned his name in every show. Most of the time he would be in the back of the peloton or five minutes back down the road but always got a mention.

It's a standing family joke in this house too that whenever either of that pair of charlies says who a rider is in a breakaway, or predicts what is going to happen next, they are always wrong. We also noticed that they seem to ignore some riders completely and never shut up about others, with no pattern that we can discern.
I found Millar's comments on the TdY very illuminating about both technical things and stuff about team working, very matter-of-fact and very informative, and I for one would prefer to have him doing it instead.

Re: Armistead Down And Out................

17 July 2015 - 7:37pm
I think the sun may have been right in the riders' eyes. In which case, it may have been difficult to separate the photographers from people behind them who were behind the barriers.
I see no point in there being barriers if anyone is allowed the 'wrong' side of them.

Re: Tour de Yorkshire

17 July 2015 - 7:34pm
I enjoyed Millar's explanations, lots of stuff I didn't know, and very measured and sensible about how teams and individuals work together. I wish they'd get him doing the TdF as the current in-race commentators for that are awful IMHO.

Re: ITV4 Tour Coverage.

16 July 2015 - 10:07pm
landsurfer wrote:This is it .... listen to all of it ..... stuff the Gallic squeeze boxes !!!!

Search Youtube ... Tour de France Retro Channel 4 Theme Music1125



Is that Sherwin at 1:13?

Re: ITV4 Tour Coverage.

16 July 2015 - 10:04pm
old_windbag wrote:I remember that tune well,

I hear it everyday... it's my ringtone!

Re: ITV4 Tour Coverage.

16 July 2015 - 8:14pm
I remember that tune well, I've been thinking of it today when on my bike... then I have read your post and did the search. The video shows lots of classic steel roadbikes. I never realised that C4 covered the tour so far back I think I've only watched it from 96/97ish. I distinctly remember sitting waiting for C4's first broadcast, a load of images of animals etc for 5-10mins followed by richard whiteley and countdown.

Re: ITV4 Tour Coverage.

16 July 2015 - 7:56pm
mjr wrote:Yeah, I mean, how long can it take to reprocess 2Gb of broadcast show down to something like 700Mb and mirror it across a network of download servers while they're doing everything else?
I think it depends which hamster they've put in the wheel that night. Sometimes it's online by 9pm. Last night I gave up and went to bed. (While my own server was processing several Gb of OSM routing data... )

Re: ITV4 Tour Coverage.

16 July 2015 - 5:53pm
This is it .... listen to all of it ..... stuff the Gallic squeeze boxes !!!!

Search Youtube ... Tour de France Retro Channel 4 Theme Music1125

I'd just returned from my second tour in the Falklands and my lady had videoed the whole of the highlights programs for me ... bliss .
I got back on Christmas Eve 1983, 2 weeks on Sir Lancelot then a VC10 from Ascension to Brize .......

Misty eyes ......

And the video that accompanies it ..... breath taking...

Re: ITV4 Tour Coverage.

16 July 2015 - 10:22am
Richard Fairhurst wrote:Meanwhile, back in 2015, it would be nice if ITV would actually put the highlights on catch-up before midnight. Sigh.
Yeah, I mean, how long can it take to reprocess 2Gb of broadcast show down to something like 700Mb and mirror it across a network of download servers while they're doing everything else? (Hint: it's simpler, faster and higher quality to timeshift the digital video broadcast stream if you can... but not cheaper if you don't already pay the TV tax.)

Re: ITV4 Tour Coverage.

16 July 2015 - 10:01am
jochta wrote:"Putting the hammer down" - has re-appeared.

To be fair to Phil and Paul, the man with the hammer has a long pedigree in the TdeF eg he often figured in Pellos cartoons such as this:

pellos pyr pic.jpg
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Here's another:
MS n° 161C du 8 juillet 00009.jpg

Re: ITV4 Tour Coverage.

16 July 2015 - 7:30am
You might like this then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3RDKJ3fGxc

Meanwhile, back in 2015, it would be nice if ITV would actually put the highlights on catch-up before midnight. Sigh.

Re: ITV4 Tour Coverage.

15 July 2015 - 11:33pm
landsurfer wrote:Could we please return to the lifting theme of the 1983 coverage. The bloody awful squeeze box, false France tune is annoying in the extreme!!!

I have the original Channel 4 Tour theme as my mobile ring tone. I downloaded it from YouTube some years ago (it's no longer there). It was part of a clip sequence with snips of commentary which I edited out. It's a great tune and I look forward to someone ringing me!

Re: ITV4 Tour Coverage.

15 July 2015 - 9:43am
"Putting the hammer down" - has re-appeared.

Re: ITV4 Tour Coverage.

14 July 2015 - 9:17pm
Its a brilliant track.... but they've made so much good music I'm glad I've lived in their era. Computer world as the theme for BBC's computer programme was top dollar ( the late Ian Macnaught-Davies and Chris Searle ). It was 6th form common room music along with joy division, yes and genesis. I've got a lot of their albums in tape form but should invest in some CD's as they're not too pricey nowadays.

Re: ITV4 Tour Coverage.

14 July 2015 - 8:33pm
old_windbag wrote:Could we have Kraftwerks "tour de france" please. The 1983 version if possible, it never made it far in the UK charts but I used to sit finger on record button of my ferguson tape deck waiting for it to play in the radio chart show. Musics so easy to acquire nowadays...
Hmmmm one should never post race results or events for those who have not yet seen the race......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTZyXlLhvxs

Re: ITV4 Tour Coverage.

14 July 2015 - 8:09pm
Could we have Kraftwerks "tour de france" please. The 1983 version if possible, it never made it far in the UK charts but I used to sit finger on record button of my ferguson tape deck waiting for it to play in the radio chart show. Musics so easy to acquire nowadays... it was quite entertaining back then. Also Kraftwerk enjoyed some good off time to go cycling so music by enthusiasts.

Hmmmm one should never post race results or events for those who have not yet seen the race......

Re: ITV4 Tour Coverage...Spoilers.!!!!!

14 July 2015 - 8:05pm
Hi,
Well we got GT the "Big Diesel" and "*&^%$£'s Cracked.............*&£"^&* Gone..........*^£"!(*'s Cracked......Froomey's "Untidy Style"...

All going on today

Sorry Mates

Re: ITV4 Tour Coverage.

14 July 2015 - 7:28pm
Could we please return to the lifting theme of the 1983 coverage. The bloody awful squeeze box, false France tune is annoying in the extreme!!!

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