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Re: who will ride Vuelta a Espana 2014

18 September 2014 - 11:19pm
Hi,
Could Yens beat -
Cancellara
Wiggo
Tony

On the same style bike
His glory might be short lived............

Re: who will ride Vuelta a Espana 2014

18 September 2014 - 11:16pm
Hi,
Tonyf33 wrote:As far as I'm concerned Boardman's UCI legit effort of 49.4km in 2000 on a wired wheel bike with drop handlebars is the one to beat but again as the UCI have moved the goalposts yet again it should be easy for Jens Voight to beat it (he's having a crack later this year)
Sorry I had forgotten what you said.....yeh not fair at all, make them all do it on a Merkcx bike.

Re: who will ride Vuelta a Espana 2014

18 September 2014 - 11:00pm
Hi,
I dont get it how can Yens record compare to Boardmans, it does'nt I.M.O.

Tell me I am wrong..........

Re: who will ride Vuelta a Espana 2014

18 September 2014 - 10:47pm
Hi,
Well done that man.

Do you think that its a changing of the rules or modern advances in body fitness / cycle tech

Edited I am not up on the rule change but it appears that Voight Is using ? (allowed to use) disc wheels and aero bars

Boardman was not

Re: hour record.

18 September 2014 - 9:06pm
The R25/3L is a 'legal' TT course but does have a long downhill section (actually quite scary when on tribars when there's a side wind and with some clunky expansion joints) but traffic is actually quite light on this course which is mainly concrete road. On the flip side, the general opinion was that conditions on 07/09/14 were good but not quite perfect.

I'd love to see Matt Bottril have a crack at this version of the hour record and reckon he'd have a good chance.

hour record.

18 September 2014 - 8:00pm
I know there is mention in another post of the hour record attempt by Jens Voigt and he has set the new record at 51,115 km.
That is by my calculation = 31.76 mph average.
Matt Bottril broke the British 25 miles TT record with a time of 45:43 minutes which, again by my reckoning = 33 mph average.
So if Bottril was to go for the hour what would be the outcome.
Would he be able to keep 33mph up for the hour.
His 25 record was done outside on the open road so would be at the vagaries of the weather, road surface and traffic compared with the "hour" done on an indoor track.

Re: 51.115kmwho will ride Vuelta a Espana 2014

18 September 2014 - 6:12pm
51.115km Well done Jens, over to Brad, Fab and Tony.

Re: who will ride Vuelta a Espana 2014

18 September 2014 - 6:06pm
Voigt is doing it right now, and his new record is....

Re: who will ride Vuelta a Espana 2014

17 September 2014 - 9:39pm
Hi,
RickH wrote:NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Mercx is French....no.....figures...
He's Belgian actually (Wikipedia entry).

Rick.
Didnt bother checking just guessed , But he might as well be due to the Standard that the UCI want hour attempts to adhere too, I believe its his bike they seem is the standard

http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/04/ ... les_324499

"Since 2000, the UCI set the official hour record based on what it called the “Merckx position,” using a similar track bike setup and geometry as Eddy Merckx used to set a record of 49.431km in 1972. That position does not allow aerodynamic modifications to handlebars, wheels, frames, position, or helmets."

"Cancellara’s plan to tackle the record was the first serious attempt in nearly a decade. The UCI’s strict rules took the luster off challenging the hour record, at least from a technological point of view. Others recently have expressed interest, including 2012 Tour de France winner Bradley Wiggins (Sky) and three-time world time trial champion Tony Martin (Omega Pharma-Quick Step)."


I.M.O. Martin is the man for the job.

Re: who will ride Vuelta a Espana 2014

16 September 2014 - 9:55pm
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Mercx is French....no.....figures...
He's Belgian actually (Wikipedia entry).

Rick.

Re: who will ride Vuelta a Espana 2014

16 September 2014 - 6:53pm
Hi,
Well if they took a design from the past and said that is it then you would know what to aim for.
Just like FIFA, UCI seem aloof and self appointing. Putin etc,

Vuelta's ended so talk about what you like

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Cycl ... rnationale

"History[edit]UCI was founded in 1900 in Paris by the national cycling sports organisations of Belgium, the United States, France, Italy, and Switzerland. It replaced the International Cycling Association by setting up in opposition in a row over whether Great Britain should be allowed just one team at world championships or separate teams representing England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales. Britain found itself outflanked and it was not able to join the UCI - under the conditions the UCI had imposed - until 1903.[1]"

"There were originally 30 countries affiliated to the union. They did not have equal voting power and some had no vote at all. Votes were distributed by the number of tracks, or velodromes, that each nation claimed. France had 18 votes, the highest number, and Germany and Italy 14 each. Britain had eight, a number the writer Bill Mills said was acquired "by including many rather doubtful grass tracks."[1]"

Mercx is French....no.....figures...

"Records[edit]The original records were on the track: unpaced, human-paced and mechanically paced. They were promoted for three classes of bicycle: solos, tandems and unusual machines such as what are now known as recumbents, on which the rider lies horizontal. Distances were imperial and metric, from 440 yards and 500 metres to 24 hours.[1] The UCI banned recumbents in competitions and in record attempts on 1 April 1934. Later changes included restrictions on riding positions of the sort that affected Graeme Obree in the 1990s and the banning in 2000 of all frames that did not have a seat tube."

Controversies in abundance through the link above........

Re: who will ride Vuelta a Espana 2014

16 September 2014 - 6:14pm
The UCI have made a pigs of ear of it yet again, saying that cyclists can now use aero UCI approved TT bikes but Boardman and Obree's records are now under the catergory of best human effort and thus Boardman's 1996 56.375km effort is not classed as the 'hour record' because his saddle is too far forward and superman position is too stretched out (or some nonsense like that)

Of recent times, Miguel Indurain & Tony Rominger have held the record, Francesco Moser broke it back in '94 (with a back wheel almost the size of a penny farthing), his and Merkx were both at altitude.
the official hour record is held by Ondřej Sosenka at 49.7km though he has been banned for drugs prior to and after his record breaking attempt
As far as I'm concerned Boardman's UCI legit effort of 49.4km in 2000 on a wired wheel bike with drop handlebars is the one to beat but again as the UCI have moved the goalposts yet again it should be easy for Jens Voight to beat it (he's having a crack later this year)

Re: who will ride Vuelta a Espana 2014

16 September 2014 - 11:10am
Hi,
Boardman did have one hour records, but apart from Mercx has any other pro come close to holding it

I remember one of (real bike not lotus) of Boardmans record attempts he was still tinkering with the wheels, as UCI said they had to be the same as Mercx, days before the attempt, and he only just took it.

Re: National 25 Comp Record goes again...

16 September 2014 - 4:15am
My fastest was 58' high. Can't believe I've been so thoroughly hammered!!

Re: who will ride Vuelta a Espana 2014

15 September 2014 - 11:45pm
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
Especially seeing that TOB is a mini Vuelta.
We should'nt knock em too much, If I think of the times I have been on top form in the last three years that would be maybe 2 - 3 times.
Even Cav is struggling though he was injured too, not sure he can beat Kitel (spelling )
I wonder whether Wiggo can deliver in 2016.......................
Well he's said he's going for the hour record in 2015..that'll give us an idea of how he might be going as an individual

Re: who will ride Vuelta a Espana 2014

15 September 2014 - 8:31pm
Hi,
Especially seeing that TOB is a mini Vuelta.
We should'nt knock em too much, If I think of the times I have been on top form in the last three years that would be maybe 2 - 3 times.
Even Cav is struggling though he was injured too, not sure he can beat Kitel (spelling )
I wonder whether Wiggo can deliver in 2016.......................

Re: who will ride Vuelta a Espana 2014

15 September 2014 - 7:10pm
As good as Wiggo is he's not on Froooomes level especially looking at the performance Frooooooooome put in on the Vuelta compared to Sir Brad on the Tour of Britain.

Re: who will ride Vuelta a Espana 2014

15 September 2014 - 6:57pm
Hi,
Mark1978 wrote:Wiggins will only be riding smaller races from now since he wants to do track riding in Rio 2016. He's said he would like to re-sign for Sky for that reason.
He has........................if I was sky and had wiggo & froomee then I would put them in different races.

I guess wiggo wants to go out on top.
Froome would beat him just on the tours
No love lost there.................

who will ride Vuelta a Espana 2014

15 September 2014 - 2:40pm
Wiggins will only be riding smaller races from now since he wants to do track riding in Rio 2016. He's said he would like to re-sign for Sky for that reason.

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