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Re: Lance is trying to get the ban lifted

28 January 2015 - 11:08pm
Perhaps he will go away if we don't talk about him?

Re: Lance is trying to get the ban lifted

28 January 2015 - 10:56pm
andy65 wrote:Are we in danger of nominating Armstrong as the fall guy so that we don't have worry too much about who else is guilty?

Not I, at least the others from that time did not actively have a vendetta towards clean riders (not that I am aware off).
I know that there must be some involved in the shady drug thing and they are still involved in cycling. Including the bloke now in charge at Sky.

But Armstrong was the low point in professional cycling for me.

Re: Lance is trying to get the ban lifted

28 January 2015 - 10:05pm
Are we in danger of nominating Armstrong as the fall guy so that we don't have worry too much about who else is guilty? There are lots of rumours about other riders from the same era. I'm not going to risk a letter from the libel lawyers by repeating the names, but think about some of the riders who's suddenly pull off extraordinary performances that didn't match previous form. Some of these guys are still involved in the sport and in influential roles.

Re: Lance is trying to get the ban lifted

28 January 2015 - 6:34pm
Armstong's “confession” and humiliating exit from the sport (at the hands of the USADA, lets not forget) presented the UCI with yet another in a long line of opportunities to clean up the sport.
When Brian Cookson replaced Pat McQuaid as head of the UCI hopes were high that this heralded a new era. Sadly the recent decision not to revoke Astana's World Tour Licence proves that it's business as usual. We now have the ultimate irony of Armstong criticising Cookson for that decision.

Re: Lance is trying to get the ban lifted

28 January 2015 - 4:00pm
The real nasty thing for me about him is that he does not admit that he destroyed the lives of clean riders.

If he were to ride in Europe again. I would consider attending the event, just to push him off the bike or at least throw dog mess at him.

Re: Lnace is trying to get the ban lifted

28 January 2015 - 12:15pm
JamesE wrote:The most dishonest line isn't in that piece but is quoted here: "We all would have loved to have competed man on man, bread, water, naturally clean, whatever you want to call it."

No, Lance, some riders tried to compete clean and you helped destroy their career.

Spot on.
It's not just the doping,Armstrong is a nasty piece of work,a bully and destroyer of careers,that's the main issue for me.
On a personal level I've seen his sort and fought against them when I've come across them,all my life.
They are creeps who's ego's are bigger than Everest.
Detestable.

Re: Lnace is trying to get the ban lifted

27 January 2015 - 12:53pm
The most dishonest line isn't in that piece but is quoted here: "We all would have loved to have competed man on man, bread, water, naturally clean, whatever you want to call it."

No, Lance, some riders tried to compete clean and you helped destroy their career.

Re: Lnace is trying to get the ban lifted (Thu 20.30 BBC New

27 January 2015 - 10:35am
Hi,
Thursday BBC News Channel 130 Interview with Lnace, also iPlayer fuller?

Re: Lnace is trying to get the ban lifted

27 January 2015 - 10:10am
Maybe the winner should be innocent until proven guilty, so, whoever there is no evidence against, no-one would believe it though but it seems unfair for anyone who was racing clean to not be given the credit.

Re: Lnace is trying to get the ban lifted

26 January 2015 - 9:46pm
I would certainly recommend reading Tyler Hamilton's book 'The Secret Race' for some insight into the way things were

Re: Lnace is trying to get the ban lifted

26 January 2015 - 9:31pm
Would any cycle team ever employ him to ride or coach?

Re: Lnace is trying to get the ban lifted

26 January 2015 - 8:53pm
He says it was not just him, it was his team, and the whole peleton, really? Ask Nicole Cooke what she thinks, just read her book, (well on my kindle), quite some story.
Cheers, Rob.

Re: Lnace is trying to get the ban lifted

26 January 2015 - 8:39pm
Hi,
The gall of it, he said that if it was 95 again he would still cheat.
But 2015 he would not.

Re: Lnace is trying to get the ban lifted

26 January 2015 - 7:21pm
move along , nothing to see here........

Lance is trying to get the ban lifted

26 January 2015 - 5:48pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/30981609
Should he be given another chance and Should somebody win the missing tours ?

Re: 'Mandela Day' Jersey In Tour de France?

17 January 2015 - 9:51am
Firstly let me make my position clear... this is not about Mandela, South Africa, the demise of Apartheid or the rise of equality... it is about the introduction of special strips for specific days or events.



It is a difficult one, especially as there is a "Hierarchy" of celebratory days


Should an Irish rider be allowed to commemorate the Battle of the Boyne which is unique to a group of Irish, but not a recognised national Public Holiday

Bastille Day celebration has a better argument in that it is a nationally recognised Public Holiday, but is still unique to the French

Mandela Day is however a formal "International Day and therefore not unique to one particular group or country, in theory being an international celebration. There is a stronger argument because of this.

So let us (for a moment) allow a Mandela Day shirt to be worn because it is a UN declared "International Day".... and look at the issues that would raise

World Population Day also falls within the Tour's dates ..... If we allow Mandela Day, then on the same grounds teams wishing to wear a special strip for this event should also be allowed.

Then we also have on the opening day of the Tour the International Day of Cooperatives, again this would have an equal "right" to be celebrated and team strips changed


... and that is also before we look at the international mix that is professional cycling........ is it just teams or can individuals participate?

If the South African team wear a Mandela strip, should a South African member of another team also be allowed to wear that strip as well?
Then we could ask whether a non South African member of another team who supports Mandela Day be allowed to wear a specific strip?

My personal opinion is that it would become too complex and the strips could be kept to the standard

Riders can be free (outside sponsorship commitments) to show solidarity by wearing wrist bands, or there can be small (or even large) logos on a strip to promote a charity

Surely this would be a better way forward?

'Mandela Day' Jersey In Tour de France?

16 January 2015 - 7:00pm
MTN-Qhubeka Team Manager Brian Smith wants his riders to be allowed to wear a special 'Mandela Day' jersey in the Tour de France:

“Especially having Mandela Day on July 18 – if the ASO allow us to wear a special jersey then that will be special and another great day for everyone associated with us.”

Read more at http://roadcyclinguk.com/racing/intervi ... tYEkLUb.99

How wonderful.

I have always been of the opinion that politics should be kept out of sport.

Re: Inclusion of African Team in TdF

15 January 2015 - 7:15am
Vorpal wrote:If the media cared, they'd ignore rowing. And golf.

And darts.

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