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Re: Commonwealth Games: Commercial sponsors and national tea

4 August 2014 - 7:42am
I thought it was quite handy in a way: "Ah, that'll be Alex Dowsett as it's a Movistar hat", as opposed to "It's someone from England!"

Re: Commonwealth Games: Commercial sponsors and National tea

4 August 2014 - 6:23am
Bicycler wrote: ... I somehow doubt that the nations which make such efforts to design special colour co-ordinated kit for all their sports teams all managed to forget about helmets for the road race. As for other miscellaneous bits of forgotten kit, I doubt that non branded kit would have been hard to acquire at short notice. I'm sure it was deliberate and I assume it was approved/tolerated.

I think you may be overestimating the amount of dosh slopping about in cycling. The BCF, which must currently be financially better off than many Commonwealth governing bodies, is presumably responsible for any number of nations like the Isle of Man, Guernsey, Jersey as well as the four larger ones. To be buying helmets etc that would only be worn in an event taking place every four years does seem a bit extravagant with money that could otherwise be spent developing the sport. I read somewhere that there were objections to GB track helmets being worn (from the same quarter reported to have objected to the Red Arrows including red smoke in their fly past.)

Over the years, there have been all sorts of tails about BCF riders being the poor relations in international competition. I remember a report in the comic that Bill Bradley had represented GB in a jersey which had had to be pinned up with safety pins to prevent its being caught in his rear wheel.

Re: Commonwealth games

4 August 2014 - 1:08am
Gruffolo wrote:Looking forward to the Road Race on Sunday but it looks like a very tough, hilly circuit in very heavy rain...
so tough that only 12 men finished
(anyone more than 10 minutes behind the leader at the end of a lap got pulled out of the race

Full action replays available here, for a while at least: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/commonw ... s/28230008

Re: ITV TdeF coverage; any good?

3 August 2014 - 11:02pm
Rob Hayles. That's it.

I agree, it took second billing to the cricket, but I like cricket, and listening to an hour of Durham v Yorkshire in the afternoon was no hardship for me before the cycling took over (Durham earned a battling draw).

Re: Commonwealth Games: Commercial sponsors and National tea

3 August 2014 - 10:54pm
nicmarsh wrote:I expect technically it's not meant to be, but if today you needed arm warmers and your team had none available (imagine they wouldn't need any for August) then you'd use "your own' which of course are those supplied by your usual employer!
I somehow doubt that the nations which make such efforts to design special colour co-ordinated kit for all their sports teams all managed to forget about helmets for the road race. As for other miscellaneous bits of forgotten kit, I doubt that non branded kit would have been hard to acquire at short notice. I'm sure it was deliberate and I assume it was approved/tolerated.

Re: ITV TdeF coverage; any good?

3 August 2014 - 10:48pm
BBC 5LSX commentary this year was Simon Brotherton and Rob Hayles as far as I heard. I think Magnus Backstedt may have appeared a few times. The problem with the BBC coverage is that it comes dead last in their priorities and will be replaced by any tennis cricket or tiddlywinks that the have the rights to broadcast so you cannot depend on it.

Re: Cmmonwealth Games: Commercial sponsors and National team

3 August 2014 - 10:39pm
I expect technically it's not meant to be, but if today you needed arm warmers and your team had none available (imagine they wouldn't need any for August) then you'd use "your own' which of course are those supplied by your usual employer!

Re: ITV TdeF coverage; any good?

3 August 2014 - 10:32pm
Si wrote:It may be that they do work for ITV now...it was some time ago that I remember Liggett saying that his commentaries were for americans.

There are a few terms they use which make it clear they're not broadcasting to an exclusively British audience - "traffic circles" rather than roundabouts is an Americanism that I found a bit annoying.

Mostly I can tolerate Phil and Paul, and the annual tour of the churches of France, but they're actually really poor at doing their actual job of commenting on the race and the tactics.

The rest of the ITV coverage is very good. Gary Imlach and Chris Broadman could do all of the commentary, for my money.

The BBC were also broadcasting live radio commentary on the last bit if each day's racing. I can't remember his name, but the co-commentator was very good. Insightful and articulate.

Re: ITV TdeF coverage; any good?

3 August 2014 - 9:54pm
They do this while watching a small monitor (not the huge flat screen TVs that many of us now have) in a small cubicle
Shall we have a whip-round?

Brucey wrote:PaulB wrote:As for bias; I do not want any bias in commentary. I watch the race as a grand event and am not really interested in just the "home" team. Infact I do not support the Murdoch sponsored team at all. I've stopped watching Formula 1 - a) because it has turned into a high speed procession and - b) the commentators' obsession with Hamilton.

A high speed procession? Ah, twas ever thus... and I don't think it is possible to have unbiased coverage. I can understand the excitement with Hamilton, it seems like a long time since anyone (anyone other than Vettel, effectively) has had a decent shot at the championship.
Alonso? Webber? Okay, yes the past couple of seasons have been that way. Though if you look at the race as a whole rather than the team up front then there's probably more overtaking than there ever has been. I think brucey's right. I'm always wary when anybody points back to some mythical golden age of close F1 racing. Pick your golden season and actually look at the results and the 20 second winning margins we complain about were common. Go back to the 1950s and the margins were often minutes. As a fellow neutral I agree that it would be nice for other teams to get as much exposure as Mercedes and Red Bull. Have the BBC bothered to interview Mattiacci yet? Or Boulier? We get updates from Christian Horner every 5 minutes.

As for cycling, yes I'm uneasy about the way Sky are treated as a national team. At the end of the day it is a commercial enterprise which exists to promote a big (horrible) media empire. A minority of their riders are British, they don't go out of their way to select British riders for the most prestigious races and most British riders don't ride for them. I would appreciate greater impartiality.

Commonwealth Games: Commercial sponsors and national teams

3 August 2014 - 9:35pm
Watching the road race, I noticed that many of the pro riders were wearing equipment (helmets mainly but arm warmers and other items were also spotted) in their pro team colours and carrying sponsors names. As the riders are competing for their country, not the commercial team, should this be allowed?

This ties in with my pet peeve; national championship jerseys splashed with sponsors' logos or largely obscured by team colours. I'm really not a fan of that.

Re: Commonwealth games

3 August 2014 - 4:33pm
Oh aye, G done good all right

Re: Commonwealth games

3 August 2014 - 4:27pm
Armistead and Thomas both absolute class acts!

Re: Commonwealth games

3 August 2014 - 11:54am
Been watching the ladies' road race.
Armitstead, what a star
Archibald, what a star in the making
Pooley, there are not words...

Re: Commonwealth games

1 August 2014 - 10:21am
At the Games watching my nephew compete in the Table Tennis for England!!! Go PAUL!!!

Looking forward to the Road Race on Sunday but it looks like a very tough, hilly circuit in very heavy rain...

Re: who will ride Vuelta a Espana 2014

28 July 2014 - 10:03pm
Just finished his biography which ends with Delhi 2010. Hope he does well in the Commonwealth Games.

Re: Commonwealth games

28 July 2014 - 9:44pm
IndividualTT on Thursday 31st and Road Race following on the Sunday

Re: who will ride Vuelta a Espana 2014

28 July 2014 - 9:03pm
yes it was disappointing Millar was not selected for TdF; has been training in Girona recently. Commonwealth TT and/or Road race first ?

Re: who will ride Vuelta a Espana 2014

28 July 2014 - 8:47pm
Yes, something to look forward to especially as ITV4 are giving it some coverage.

Edit: Hope Dave Millar gets a ride.

who will ride Vuelta a Espana 2014

28 July 2014 - 4:37pm
Perhaps we wil be treated to a Quintana v Froome affair? I think that would be pretty special. Contador says he wont be riding, Cavendish is unsure whilst Adam Yates is a probability.

Re: Tiernan-Locke banned.

28 July 2014 - 4:15pm
Hope he can be proved innocent.
The "passport" is a good idea but there may be instances when readings could be affected by unusual circumstances.

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