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World Time Trial chamionship (spoiler alert!)

24 September 2014 - 2:46pm
In sunny (today, not like yesterday!) Ponfrerrada, the only chap who managed over 31mph on a rolling course was.....
(drum roll....)

Sir Bradley Wiggins!

He whomped Tony Martin into second place by over 26 seconds, and is the second ever British gold medallist (in the twenty years it has been run) at this championship.

Mission achieved!

He says it is his last one ever but who knows.

When interviewed he was asked how he felt; "I don't know what to say...." he said. Then he was asked what the first thing that went through his mind was this morning when he woke up.

In typical casual form he replied;

" the first thing that went through my mind this morning was that... I needed a wee..."

good ol' WIggo.....

cheers

Road World Cycling Championships SPOILER ALERT

24 September 2014 - 2:42pm
Congratulations to Tony Martin, for your silver medal in the time trial.


Massive congratulations to Bradley Wiggins, for somehow managing to beat Tony Martin to the World Championship!!

Re: Jens gets Hour record

24 September 2014 - 2:39pm
It seems silly having it set by whatever the current rules allow, their should be the standard bike, then the whatever is technologically possible record. How do they find the standard bike, do they have to use the same bearings and lubricants etc.?

Edit- As the rules for track bikes change, it makes it impossible to compare different records.

Re: Jens gets Hour record

24 September 2014 - 12:00pm
Hi,
thirdcrank wrote:When Boardman set that mark, I think he was way past his best.
Yes, I agree.........but Boardman still set the record on the Eddy style bike spokes an all.

What will Wiggo be doing and on what

I would like to see the next contenders do a Eddy bike , A today Jen's bike and anything else best human effort, in that order.

Re: Jens gets Hour record

24 September 2014 - 11:40am
When Boardman set that mark, I think he was way past his best.

Re: Jens gets Hour record

24 September 2014 - 10:58am
"It was encouraging Jens went so fast. It set a marker, and it was good for the sport," added Wiggins.
"Someone had to do it first and now it's a realistic aim... not like the record Chris Boardman set 14 years ago!"

Does that rather imply that he thinks Boardman and Merckx were at the limit of human performance on that style of bike?

Re: Jens gets Hour record

20 September 2014 - 9:59pm
Well done Jens, proper hero!

Re: Jens gets Hour record

19 September 2014 - 7:07pm
Proper Hour Record 5 Sept 2014.

Re: Jens gets Hour record

19 September 2014 - 1:12pm

Proper hour record!

Re: Jens gets Hour record

19 September 2014 - 12:57pm
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:(XAB)Bob I think Boardman was rejected on saddle position etc,

Yes but the above quote (from one of the newspapers) looked as if they were reinstating those, but not putting them forward as records to be broken, which was odd. A deeper (and cycling specific) article is more complete:

The UCI killed off interest in the Hour Record in 2000 when they ruled that any attempts had to be done using a tradition bike, much like the one used by Eddy Merckx in 1972. That stifled innovation and cancelled records set by Graeme Obree and Chris Boardman, who set the record using the Superman aerodynamic position.

Under the new rules, anyone attempting the Hour Record will have to use a bike that complies with rules for endurance competition on the track. This means that aero bars, disc wheels and aero helmets will be allowed.

The UCI had back dated its record books, ruling that Eddy Merckx's record of 49.431km in 1972 and Cornelia Van Oosten-Hage women's record of 43.083km set in 1978, are legal Hour Records. All records established since then with non-conforming bikes, including the records of Chris Boardman (56.375km) and Jeannie Longo-Ciprelli (48.159km) in 1996, receive the new name of “Best hour performance”.

Under the new rules, the Hour Records to beat are those established by Ondrej Sosenka (49.700km) for men and by Leontien Zijlaard-Van Moorsel (46.065km) for women. These two athletes beat the Hour record using equipment which is still within the regulations currently applicable to track endurance events.

So the records which were set on what would now be considered legal are allowed, not those not set on 2014 track bikes.
It's a completely arbitrary standard now, not allowing the inter generational battle which it could/should be. I hope they retain a "classic" record as "the" hour, and run a second set as a "modern" hour record. Leave the real freedom, and the absolute hour record to the IHPVA.

Re: Jens gets Hour record

19 September 2014 - 11:02am
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:We all like Jens (i thought it was Yens meself) but I dont know why he did it.

German, a 'j' usually comes out as we would say a 'y'.

Why did he do it? My guess is that best of all reasons to do things like this... because he could!

NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Poor old Jens is not on the same list as Merkcx and Boardman, Wired wheels, I.M.O.

For some values of "poor" and "old", that is. A great way to end a distinguished career. He's acknowledged it won't last for long, but he did it anyway, so good on him. He had enormous respect from me before, but he has even more now. The legs shut up, and the spotlight is now back on the Hour after too long in the shade caused by misbegotten rules revisions.

Pete.

Re: Jens gets Hour record

19 September 2014 - 10:38am
Hi,
I like old Jens really I do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hour_record

(XAB)Bob I think Boardman was rejected on saddle position etc,
You stand on the left I will stand on the right and the boys can squeeze between us Excepting that UCI still holds the tin of Tacks

"In 1993 and 1994, Graeme Obree, a Scot who built his own bikes, posted two records with his hands tucked under his chest. In 1996, Boardman set a record using another position pioneered by Obree, his arms out in front in a Superman position. Both were considered controversial by the UCI, and while the records were allowed to stand, the positions were banned. Obree and Boardman made several attempts to top the previous record"

"In 2005 Ondřej Sosenka improved Boardman's performance at 49.700 km (30.882 mi) using a 54×13 gear. At 200 cm (6 ft 6¾ in) tall, Sosenka used an unusual saddle position and a small vertical frame height to stay within UCI regulations.[2] Sosenka failed a doping control in 2001 and then again in 2008, the latter resulting in a career ending in suspension which puts in doubt the validity of his record."



Jens / Moser -

"In January 1984, Moser set two records, the second being 51.151 km (31.784 mi). This was the first noted use of disc wheels, which provided aerodynamic benefit."

"Following the change in the rules, German Jens Voigt became the first rider to attempt the hour, on 18 September 2014 at the Velodrome Suisse, Grenchen, Switzerland.[7][8] He set a new record of 51.115 km, beating the previous record set by Sosenka by 1.4 km."

Re: Jens gets Hour record

19 September 2014 - 10:11am
No, that's fair comment, but it's nice for him to have held something like that, and even more so since he's a billionty-seven years old, at least

Re: Jens gets Hour record

19 September 2014 - 9:56am
Hi,
Bonefishblues wrote:Doesn't just get, smashes would be appropriate, I think. A fitting end to a career.
We all like Jens (i thought it was Yens meself) but I dont know why he did it.
If I did it tomorrow they it would have to be what the UCI laid down with Eddy's bike.

Poor old Jens is not on the same list as Merkcx and Boardman, Wired wheels, I.M.O.

Others too come soon...........

Re: Jens gets Hour record

19 September 2014 - 8:42am
I've just reread some of the rule changes, and I thought they were reinstating the efforts by Obree and Boardman, yet Boardman did 56k - so surely his is still "the hour record".

In mid 2014 the UCI decided to create the 'Unified Record,' scrapping the two existing records and effectively relegitimising Obree and Boardman's earlier attempts in the 1990s, however the record to beat would still stand with Sosenka's 2005 effort. The new ruling meant that riders no longer had to use bikes akin to Merckx's, but could now use modern pursuit style bikes with tri bars, disc wheels and aero frames. Fabian Cancellara, Bradley Wiggins and Tony Martin all expressed interest in attempting the Hour since the rule changed.

Of course the true "best human effort" is over 90km...

Re: Jens gets Hour record

19 September 2014 - 8:06am
Doesn't just get, smashes would be appropriate, I think. A fitting end to a career.

Re: Jens gets Hour record

19 September 2014 - 8:00am
i have always loved the hour record (tho' never had a bash yet myself!)

i've never quite understood the concept of finishing the last lap though and the calculation the it entails. is it just average speed over a full number of laps?

Re: Jens gets Hour record

19 September 2014 - 7:34am
UCI clarified the rules, they are allowed to use full TT bikes.

Re: Jens gets Hour record

19 September 2014 - 7:32am
They're allowing tri bars now?

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