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Re: Help!

19 August 2014 - 2:17pm
Phil Fouracre wrote:What got me was that they could see the tanker just the same as I could, even had hazmat stripes across the back,
Sorry to take it out of context, I agree with everyting else posted here, apart from this: They couldn't 'see' the tanker as well as you could, becaue they were not paying attention. Seeing requires other organs than just the eyes registering and xmitting to the brain, the information needs to be processed (and patently wasn't).

Nothing unusual here at all. Nothing to see ... move along

Re: Help!

19 August 2014 - 1:05pm
Stewart H wrote:The attention of many car drivers is focused about twenty feet in front of them, anything beyond that range is not yet being processed and so comes as a surprise
Funny I thought it was about 20 inches in a downward gaze at the magical and hypnotic text/Twitter/Facebook screen


*Story alert*
I knew a lay-preacher(a good one,who could be quite entertaining),when I asked him what his best sermon was he answered 'Oh,about 15 minutes,after that they've lost concentration'
It's a short stride..............

Re: Help!

19 August 2014 - 12:57pm
The attention of many car drivers is focused about twenty feet in front of them, anything beyond that range is not yet being processed and so comes as a surprise

Re: Help ! Lardy moron encounter

19 August 2014 - 11:50am
kwackers wrote:....."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"

Very apt in the case of some drivers,the non consequential thinking that goes on behind the wheel of motor vehicles is there for all to see,whatever mode of transport you use on the roads.
It's allowed to continue unchecked by a sheer lack of enforcement of the law and a lack of meaningful penalties when the law happens to be,or is attempted to be,enforced.
Mindless stupidity is being accepted as a consequence of modern motoring because as a society we've decided we can't afford to enforce the law in any meaningful sense and are relying on statistics of KSI to to inform us of a complete untruth.And worse still it's a politrickal outlook of fear of loosing votes that reduces conviction rates of road using criminals.
In short the roads are a free for all,and unless something is done about it things will ever get worse.
IMHO road crime is one area where education by the big stick approach will work.

Re: Help!

19 August 2014 - 10:45am
Fantastic! Only trying to think of that the other day, very apposite, thanks

Re: Help ! Lardy moron encounter

19 August 2014 - 9:19am
MartinC wrote:I stand by my original comment. We sometimes agonise about what's going on in a motorists mind but I think the true answer is nothing. It's no use asking what they're thinking 'cos they aren't thinking.
That's true - right up until the point where they press the horn at which point they've made a conscious decision to be annoyed and justified it to themselves.

Prior to that it's mostly mindless automation and to which Hanlon's Razor applies: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"

Re: Help ! Lardy moron encounter

19 August 2014 - 8:50am
I stand by my original comment. We sometimes agonise about what's going on in a motorists mind but I think the true answer is nothing. It's no use asking what they're thinking 'cos they aren't thinking.

Re: Help ! Lardy moron encounter

18 August 2014 - 10:53pm
Seems a pretty normal day out to me .

Re: Eventful ride last night

18 August 2014 - 9:46pm
Those lasers can be quite lethal.

I was down in Plymouth last week watching the national firework championships and a couple of people had them on the hills opposite to us, they were easily able to shine them onto buildings behind us, must have been half a mile distance between us and them.

Re: Eventful ride last night

18 August 2014 - 8:47pm
Dont worry about the rabbit. They're a hardy animal. And anyway they're vermin to a lot of land owners, farmers and gardeners.

Re: Help!

18 August 2014 - 8:38pm
Stringing five words together in row, nope don't think so, way too much effort, would cause the brain to explode. What got me was that they could see the tanker just the same as I could, even had hazmat stripes across the back, so much for the benefits of fluorescent colours!!!

Re: Help!

18 August 2014 - 8:21pm
Must get past the cyclist. Must get past the cyclist. Must get past the cyclist. Must get past the cyclist. Must get past the cyclist. Must get past the cyclist. Must get past the cyclist. Must get past the cyclist. Must get past the cyclist. Must get past the cyclist. Must get past the cyclist. Must get past the cyclist. Must get past the cyclist. Must get past the cyclist. Must get past the cyclist. Must get past the cyclist. Must get past the cyclist. Must get past the cyclist. Must get past the cyclist. Must get past the cyclist. Must get past the cyclist. Must get past the cyclist. Must get past the cyclist. Must get past the cyclist. Must get past the cyclist.

Something like that, perhaps?

Re: Help!

18 August 2014 - 6:29pm
Assume or! morbidly obese blob, no way of knowing!!

Re: Help!

18 August 2014 - 5:41pm
Needed his daily fix of diesel exhaust fumes, and you were depriving him of it.

Phil Fouracre wrote:said drivers matching wife/sisterDoes the "/" stand for "or", or "and"?

Re: This made me sad on several levels

18 August 2014 - 5:38pm
thirdcrank wrote:....... Spin is cheaper than delivery.
Ain't that the truth!
It's a sickening school tie scenario and sad in so many ways.
Meanwhile the innocents suffer whilst the bad guys win .

Re: This made me sad on several levels

18 August 2014 - 5:22pm
It's arguably a fault with the jury system that emotion may play too great a part but the counter argument is that juries somehow reflect the feelings of ordinary people in the face of authority. The reality is that the defence rightly try at every stage of the proceedings to represent their client's interests by having charges dropped, reduced, dealt with by caution or whatever. If the system's working correctly, if when it gets to court, unless something goes wrong like a witness dropping dead, conviction should be almost inevitable because of all the filtering that has gone on before. Unless there's a point of law to be argued, a bit of thespianism may be all that's left, combined with the hope that in any twelve people chosen at random, there may be enough people who will, for whatever reason say NOT GUILTY no matter what the evidence. It's a bit of a wildcard.

There are vested interests here and it won't change much anytime soon, IMO. I get the impression that the govt has decided it's all too expensive to bother with, which is why the enforcement of some offences has collapsed. Spin is cheaper than delivery.

Re: This made me sad on several levels

18 August 2014 - 5:08pm
Flinders wrote:.............. Likewise, juries ought to be discourage from finding someone innocent just because they approve of them in other ways and don't want them to get a stiff sentence.

Isn't this the whole problem?
When defendent's 'brief'(which are anything but) gets out the violin,and begins the 'of good character,fine upstanding charitable member of the community'speech opinions begin to change in jury member's minds.When in reality the plane bald facts should be adhered to irrespective of anything else IMHO.

The justice system reeks of injustice

Re: Help!

18 August 2014 - 5:07pm
A Top Gear aficionado?

Re: Help!

18 August 2014 - 5:03pm
Absolutely nothing.

Help!

18 August 2014 - 5:00pm
I don't want to perpetuate the ongoing moronic drivers/perfect cyclists argument, as I don't believe it is true, but, can someone please tell me what goes on between the ears of some drivers 'cos I can't work it out. This morning cycling back from shopping expedition, nothing too onerous. Country road single lane, level, some bends, not complicated! Was following a reasonable sized tanker, probably doing 20mph+. Nothing difficult so far? As it was impossible for me, let alone any other vehicle, to overtake I was pootling along between primary and secondary, about 25 yards behind. Car arrives, sits on my tail! then on the horn! I think WTF is the thought that went through my mind. Looked round to see morbidly obese [rude word removed] gesticulating at me to move over, fair nuff! I'm not going anywhere so why not. Car overtook with said drivers matching wife/sister mouthing something in my direction (always wondered how they make cars suspension so good these days?) then promptly slams on his brakes and sits a foot behind the tanker. So, my question is what was going on in there?

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