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Re: I rode off-road - fun, finding routes and how do you dre

19 April 2015 - 10:29am
Hi,
Like some others here although I do off road stuff as well as including it in my training courses.
I am not finding any need to go out purely MTBing on a particular course or with anyone else either.
I am not criticising any comment here but you can enjoy very much just going off on your own with a map or device and explore.

Of course you need to get out of the concrete jungle first.
Take a day off and get some transport to another area, studying maps / net stuff for info first and go and explore, the worst I get at the end of a long day in failing light is lumping my camp laden hack over a tall wooden gate downhill on a public right of way

Re: What is gr8 about motorcycling?

19 April 2015 - 10:14am
samsbike wrote:Personally if you have to ask the question, you will not understand the answer

For what questions is this statement good? I ask a question because I do not understand and want to learn.

Re: I rode off-road - fun, finding routes and how do you dre

19 April 2015 - 9:47am
Cheers North Reading is a bit far out. The LBS does mtb rides but that is not really what I want, will get the OS maps.

Re: I rode off-road - fun, finding routes and how do you dre

19 April 2015 - 9:36am
531colin wrote:For routes, you just can't beat "local knowledge".....that means if you can't find a "local" who knows, you just gotta go look for yourself.....and the tracks change with the season, and with the years.
magic hats?...not for me, thanks.
OS map? absolutely.....I prefer 2 1/2" these days.....even shows you which side of the wall/hedge the path is. You can cycle on bridlepaths, byways, restricted byways, "white" roads....and I go on the ones (with green blobs on 2 1/2") which are "right of way, but we haven't decided exactly which right of way just now".
.....Al is your Chilterns man.....local knowledge.....?

I am just North of Reading, too far out from Sam I think. There are several MTB rides a week organised by Reading CTC which are very good, mostly to the North in the Chilterns. There are CTC groups in NW London and they doubtless also have off road rides. Its just a matter of giving the Hon Sec a ring to explore possibilities. And, choose your preferred area and buy a £7 OS Explorer map of it. It will show all the bridleways.

Al

Re: I rode off-road - fun, finding routes and how do you dre

19 April 2015 - 9:18am
As well as all the suggestions already made, most nationally owned forestry (I used to say Forestry Commission, but maybe the name has changed) has extensive cycling rights. You just have to respect the signs that warn of tracks being closed for felling.

Re: I rode off-road - fun, finding routes and how do you dre

19 April 2015 - 9:11am
Ouutside of local knowledge, nothing beats trial and error. Use the OS maps as others have said and then go exploring. Some will be unrideable and some will be great fun, some are just for good weather and some for when its wet. But over time you'll build up a collection of tracks you can string together to make up your rides. I take the good bits and mark them on my OS map with a highlighter and still try to explore new bits whenever I go out. And no magic hat. A cycle cap does the sun, rain, sweat and flies duty if necessary, but normally not even that. Enjoy.

Re: I rode off-road - fun, finding routes and how do you dre

19 April 2015 - 8:57am
Don't overlook Google Earth. Not knocking maps in any way, but with G E you can get an overview of an area from a great height then sometimes, as you zoom in, you start to see lines going in promising directions...
Just one way of generating ideas to check out - using maps!

Re: I rode off-road - fun, finding routes and how do you dre

18 April 2015 - 11:46pm
No helmet for me but my off roading is very leisurely not a high adrenaline activity. I don't go pushing limits seeing how fast I can go.

The 2 1/2 inch maps Colin refers to are OS's Explorer (1:25000 scale) maps. The less detailed but covering a larger area OS Landranger (1:50000) also show all classes of rights of way. Unfortunately being legally permitted to cycle somewhere doesn't mean that the surface is suitable for cycling - Finding and exploring routes from a map can be great fun but it really is trial and error.

The other option, as Colin says, is local knowledge. Chances are some local cyclists know all the local routes inside out. I see that there is a Home Counties section of the Rough Stuff Fellowship which doesn't look too active from the website (http://www.rsf.org.uk/local-groups/home-counties.html) but may be worth contacting them for information on routes or even to join.

Re: I rode off-road - fun, finding routes and how do you dre

18 April 2015 - 11:29pm
Hi,
I will echo what others have said, that is an OS map "Explorer" 2 & 1/2 " to a mile series which show very good detail.
Then go explore.

As for helmet forgetting any safety claims, if it has a peak keeps the sun out of your eyes and deflects the flies too, will keep your head pretty dry when raining.

Edit for grammar

Re: I rode off-road - fun, finding routes and how do you dre

18 April 2015 - 10:54pm
samsbike wrote:Last weekend I went on my very first sportive and I guess I was attracted more by the off road bits, not having done any before.

I must say I enjoyed it. Usually I hate the stuff, we have woods near us and although I have taken the mtb there I just don't enjoy the mud, getting dirty etc. But this was different, some bits were technical, some bits were better to walk, and there was gravel. And with all the dry weather there was very little mud. I was also riding my pseudo cross bike, so relatively fat tires, discs and mudguards.

I can see the benefit of riding a bit of road, turning off somewhere for some bridlepath or into the woods for light off roading and riding home. I realise that a few of you do it anyway, Colin and John spring to mind but I guess my question is do how do you find these routes and work out what will work and what will not?

Also I did this helmet less, do you wear a helmet or not (not a debate but yes or no).

thanks

Ahhh good ole OS maps, and hours spent pouring over them discovering bridleways that would link up a route / make a logical route on a through route to somewhere..... and hearing of such classics as The Ridgeway (but beware if you do not like mud, spent a weekend up to my bottom bracket in it one wet spring).

Re: I rode off-road - fun, finding routes and how do you dre

18 April 2015 - 10:17pm
For routes, you just can't beat "local knowledge".....that means if you can't find a "local" who knows, you just gotta go look for yourself.....and the tracks change with the season, and with the years.
magic hats?...not for me, thanks.
OS map? absolutely.....I prefer 2 1/2" these days.....even shows you which side of the wall/hedge the path is. You can cycle on bridlepaths, byways, restricted byways, "white" roads....and I go on the ones (with green blobs on 2 1/2") which are "right of way, but we haven't decided exactly which right of way just now".
.....Al is your Chilterns man.....local knowledge.....?

Re: I rode off-road - fun, finding routes and how do you dre

18 April 2015 - 9:22pm
Vorpal wrote:I find routes just by exploring, and riding with other cyclists. Sometimes, after work, I take a little extra time and go someplace I've never gone before. Some of these places are roads or bridleways that I've seen and thought, 'that looks nice. I'll have to try it sometime'. Some are ones that I've found on a map, and thought I should try to explore.

The best routes, though, I've learned from other cyclists.

Unfortunately my commute home is through London which is no fun and I despise the canal path.

I just need to find something around NWLondon and Bucks that has a reasonable loop.

Re: What is gr8 about motorcycling?

18 April 2015 - 9:07pm
Personally if you have to ask the question, you will not understand the answer

Re: I rode off-road - fun, finding routes and how do you dre

18 April 2015 - 8:49pm
OS maps show all the bridleways, work it out from there. Often take copies of map sections and my smartphone for spot gps location. Loose tee shirt with long sleeves, mountain tights essential to prevent bramble injuries, mtb clip in shoes. Having fallen off many times and twice right over the bars my helmet has saved me from injury again and again.

Al

Re: I rode off-road - fun, finding routes and how do you dre

18 April 2015 - 8:45pm
I find routes just by exploring, and riding with other cyclists. Sometimes, after work, I take a little extra time and go someplace I've never gone before. Some of these places are roads or bridleways that I've seen and thought, 'that looks nice. I'll have to try it sometime'. Some are ones that I've found on a map, and thought I should try to explore.

The best routes, though, I've learned from other cyclists.

I rode off-road - fun, finding routes and how do you dress

18 April 2015 - 8:41pm
Last weekend I went on my very first sportive and I guess I was attracted more by the off road bits, not having done any before.

I must say I enjoyed it. Usually I hate the stuff, we have woods near us and although I have taken the mtb there I just don't enjoy the mud, getting dirty etc. But this was different, some bits were technical, some bits were better to walk, and there was gravel. And with all the dry weather there was very little mud. I was also riding my pseudo cross bike, so relatively fat tires, discs and mudguards.

I can see the benefit of riding a bit of road, turning off somewhere for some bridlepath or into the woods for light off roading and riding home. I realise that a few of you do it anyway, Colin and John spring to mind but I guess my question is do how do you find these routes and work out what will work and what will not?

Also I did this helmet less, do you wear a helmet or not (not a debate but yes or no).

thanks

Re: Disappointing For Cyclists in Radstock

18 April 2015 - 7:46pm
Yes, I'm hopeful too CoffeeDrinkerUK. I embarked on a "shakedown" this morning with 2 weeks worth of gear on my Surly DT in preparation for a couple of missions in the next few months. Just under 30kg including all water, fuel, food etc. All felt good, but having spent a week on my Surly Big Dummy (light front end) I was getting used to slightly different handling skills...

...On coming out onto the new roundabout I was almost hit by a lady coming from the top of the hill (Westfield) who drove straight over the roundabout and then proceeded to switch from her lane into the wrong one at the first of the famous double roundabouts. TWICE she almost got me! I did my best to tick her off but she couldn't see or hear through her perm. Poor lady looked as lost as I did once in the Chimanimani mountains when I was 20.

It took me 6 miles to get back into the rhythm of enjoying a day out on my bike. I did learn something though: For my long hair, perms look pretty damn useful as an easy-maintenance option. Leo Sayer with a beard is a good look methinks.............b

Re: My first time being hit by a car today! Advice appreciat

18 April 2015 - 6:56pm
I am trying to be cautious here but .... unless there is absolutely nothing approaching a junction and i know have a clear run.. i am very wary about approaching lights etc at speed..... i would be easing back and have the brakes covered, it has got me out of a lot of situations that could have been a lot worse...

Please do not think i am saying you contributed, we should be able to go through lights/junctions at similar speeds to that which a vehicle might be travelling... when the situation is our favour.... it is just if i know there is likely to be traffic turning across me i am ultra cautious... and even more so since a driver in a similar situation to yours, landed me on the deck and off work for 6 months...

Re: What is gr8 about motorcycling?

18 April 2015 - 3:50pm
I suppose a similar question is what is the point of people cycling down hills at 40-45mph? Dangerous, ill advised, risky, yet they still do it.

Are the motivations any different qualitatively?

A piece on a motorbike ride by a cyclist.

http://www.farawayvisions.com/born-to-be-wild/

People I know who have poweerful motorbikes like the different experience, the quicker, less expensive alternative to the car, and from the more dynamic experience.

Ferdinand

Re: fewer motorists fined for mobile use

18 April 2015 - 3:13pm
Postboxer wrote:Just hit the phone a few times with the hammer of justice, then their car. That would sort it.
My thoughts exactly.
The problem is policing is increasingly politicised and the politrickians fear doing what is the correct thing due to a backlash come election time.
Not to mention police numbers being reduced almost monthly.
If the current bunch of clowns get in again we're set for even more reductions in services,whilst we employ police comissioners at high rates of pay whose jobs are totally superfluous.You couldn't make it up.
Then we are told crime is reducing year on year,what they don't mention is that it's reducing because people don't report small crimes any more,because they know nothing will be done if they do report it!
I think it's termed as ''cooking the books''

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