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Re: Cafe & coffee

25 September 2014 - 1:57pm
Interestingly on my recent trip around Germany the only place with a choice bigger than coffee and milk coffee was at the airport. That's okay with me, theres nothing more infuriating than having to wait for the designer coffees someone has ordered before i can get served with my hot water and leaves!

Cake on the other hand - yum, loads of choice unlike the dry 'muffin', carrot, choc or sponge on offer in UK outlets.

Re: A good idea for this country?

25 September 2014 - 1:26pm
I once was driven from Dubai to Abu Dhabi and back in a terrifying journey. I asked a few times if we could slow down and stop swerving violently around corners as I didn't want to crash. The response was that the persons driving had nothing to do with whether we might crash it was all down to the will of God.

Re: Cafe & coffee

25 September 2014 - 1:05pm
honesty wrote:Ah, you need to practice the art of turning up just as a new jug comes out
I've never quite mastered it so stick with espresso with added hot water(Americano).
Pollution in the form of milk(yuck! )can be added,but I'd rather not

Re: Cafe & coffee

25 September 2014 - 12:17pm
al_yrpal wrote:I read an economics book in which coffee shops were used as an example. Main railway stations and motorway service station coffee shops are very expensive largely because of high rent. If there is an alternative like an ordinary cafe or a greasy spoon we'll use that. But, companies like Starbucks charge whatever they think they can get away with. ...

The most basic fact about any business is that if they don't make a profit, they'll go bust. There are all sorts of reasons why they may not make a profit and not covering overheads is only one. Frightening away customers by charging too much is another and that's not simple because high prices can increase demand by giving a sense of exclusiveness.

When a chain of outlets is involved, it tends to be useless complaining because the customer facing colleagues (AKA counter staff) have no way of recording customer feedback. Voting with the feet is the only effective option but you need a lot of other people to feel the same way. It does happen - the current case being the traditional pub trade - but the coffee shop trade seems secure at the mo.

Re: Cafe & coffee

25 September 2014 - 12:17pm
Problem with coffee in Britain is there are still plenty of people who woudn't know good coffee if it jumped up in front of them singing the "I'm good coffee" dance wearing a "Good Coffee" T-shirt on National Good Coffee Day in a benefit gig for Good Coffee. There's a place around my way that does a "milky coffee" which consists of one part filter coffee (not espresso, filter coffee) and three parts hot milk. The old dears lap it up. This is a country where some 75% of coffee sales are instant, and Camp and Mellow Tu-, I mean Birds still has a market

Re: Cafe & coffee

25 September 2014 - 12:08pm
honesty wrote:Ask for filter coffee, its cheaper than even an Americano, and you get more.

I do, but you just get a puzzled look from the server. They don't seem to know what a filter coffee is! Many of them are foreigners and don't understand English and British habits and culture. If I visit a decent greasy spoon I always put a review on Tripadvisor.

Al

Re: Police Thugs

25 September 2014 - 12:05pm
I've already said that I know my other thread is hardly scientific, but I think the context of this incident is important. At that time, after a well-publicised series of deaths of cyclists the police were under some pressure to do something. The result was a road safety campaign, where the authorities were keen to show that they were being somehow even-handed between the HGV's and the cyclists. I presumed - as I've posted - that this incident was one of many, aggravated by the rider being floored to stop them. In fact, one of the few other recent "road safety advice" incidents I've been unable to track down has involved the same rider.

If there's going to be some policy to tackle something, it's handy to know what's happening and how frequently it's happening. The slogan in the common knuckle tattoo, ACAB may well be true but let's be a bit more specific.

Re: A good idea for this country?

25 September 2014 - 11:39am
Grandad wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-29345631
and why stop at red light jumping. Could have a scale - 1 night for jumping red lights, 2 nights for using a mobile phone ..............

Saudi Arabia, and some other countries of that tradition, have a quite unbelievably appalling road safety record for countries of such a level of development. There is an unfortunate tendency to let multiple repeat offenders of egregiously dangerous offences continue driving. They need to do something sufficiently dramatic to move social attitudes to bad driving. Though taking bad drivers' licences off them would probably be more proportionate and effective. Also a proper driving test would help. Currently you drive once around a roundabout in a real car to show you have very basic operating facility, and then take a 15 min computer simulator test. A day of training is usually sufficient to pass. http://www.wikihow.com/Acquire-a-Drivin ... udi-Arabia

Re: Cafe & coffee

25 September 2014 - 9:34am
reohn2 wrote:You won't get a decent cup of coffee wherever for less than £1.80 it's that simple.
If you wish to drink instant that's your business,personally I'd rather not.

I don't always agree with R2, but he's bang on the money here. Life's too short to drink instant. OK, if doing a lightweight long-distance walk in the wilderness, then just maybe

Re: Police Thugs

25 September 2014 - 3:02am
I think people are dismissing this incident far too easily..it's pretty extreme for one thing given it IS an assault of the person and for another the police are covering their own backs and basically lying/denying what happened. id say the incident as a whole is extreme enough for people to be worried. That thirdcrank started a thread as to how often incidents happen is interesting but it really doesnt/won't ever give a true representation of the whole cross section of cyclists.

Re: It's not just cyclists then...

24 September 2014 - 11:43pm
Cunobelin wrote:THIS is road rage
Is it legal to use a hand held 'phone camera in the US? I expect it is. I was in New York in March and the standard of driving was the worst I've seen anywhere. Drivers and passengers never use seat belts, and if you are stupid enough to ride a bike you are begging for abuse

Re: Cafe & coffee

24 September 2014 - 10:49pm
reohn2 wrote:honesty wrote:Ask for filter coffee, its cheaper than even an Americano, and you get more.
And is more often than not stewed from being left in the jug.

Ah, you need to practice the art of turning up just as a new jug comes out

Re: A good idea for this country?

24 September 2014 - 10:46pm
I've often thought a modern version of the stocks could be a cage in the middle of each town. Offenders could be locked in overnight to face ridicule from local people, and those incarcerated would be drunks, druggies, shoplifters, drivers breaking the law, anti-social persons and others I'm sure you could mention.

Re: Cafe & coffee

24 September 2014 - 10:17pm
honesty wrote:Ask for filter coffee, its cheaper than even an Americano, and you get more.
And is more often than not stewed from being left in the jug.

Re: Cafe & coffee

24 September 2014 - 10:08pm
Or, get a "myWaitrose" card (free) and then get a free cup of decent coffee from their cafe (or their real coffee machines they are now putting around their stores - so you can avoid queues at the cafes).

BUT, if you like cakes, then getting a free coffee can end-up quite expensive with cakes (which are not free!).

Ian

Re: Cafe & coffee

24 September 2014 - 10:03pm
Ask for filter coffee, its cheaper than even an Americano, and you get more.

Re: A good idea for this country?

24 September 2014 - 10:02pm


Its called a Pillory.
The rotting vegetable seller has a barrow on the other side of the street.
The rat catcher is there as well with items for sale, along with the sewer cleaner.



Here are the Stocks at Evesham.

Re: A good idea for this country?

24 September 2014 - 9:45pm
We haven't got enough jails
Hit them where it hurts most,short bans,hefty fines with no wriggle room,that would do the trick

Re: Police Thugs

24 September 2014 - 8:43pm
I have never been stopped by the police at all. The only times a policeman has spoken to me in relation to bicycles were over the phone when my bike was stolen and when waiting for a train and the officer was a keen cycle-tourist.

I think that the police mostly ignore cyclists to be honest. This isn't the experience of the OP, but I think that looks like it was extremely unusual from the lack of "me too" coming from other people.

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