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Re: BT Openreach cyclists stay back

13 June 2014 - 9:26pm
37262 wrote:I find that when I am turning left into Carpenters Road from Stratford High Street in the evenings, there are some of the cycling fraternity that refuse to acknowledge my presence,

There is a real problem with our UK driving test. Drivers get licences believing their indicators give them priority. We had exactly the same scenario, as 37262's example above, reported by one of our House of Commons Transport Select Committee members. He also genuinely believed that once he put his indicator out he had priority turning left and was upset because cyclists have had the audacity to remonstrate with him.

If you use your indicator in a vehicle it means "I would like to turn", it is then up to you to make sure your way is clear; and if you have to wait a long time that's the way the cookie crumbles.

Welcome to the forum. For a first post you've put your head into the lion's den I hope it doesn't put you off. Good luck with beginning cycling, I hope you find it as fulfilling and useful as most on here do.

Re: Electric 'car' fright

13 June 2014 - 9:24pm
James Martin the "Celebrity" Chef has an opinion on quiet electric vehicles, in this case the Tesla Electric sports car:


"Twenty minutes into my test drive I pulled round a leafy bend, enjoying the birdsong – and spotted those damned Spider-Man cyclists," he said.

"Knowing they wouldn't hear me coming, I stepped on the gas, waited until the split second before I overtook them, then gave them an almighty blast on the horn at the exact same time I passed them at speed.

"The look of sheer terror as they tottered into the hedge was the best thing I've ever seen in my rear-view mirror."

Re: Electric 'car' fright

13 June 2014 - 9:21pm
cjchambers wrote:There's a pizza shop in Bath has one of those Twizy things for deliveries. I imagine it's pretty clapped out, all that uphill and downhill, stop and start.

chocjohn9 wrote:I thought the manufacturers were going to give these 'cars' a noise so people like us lot would be able to brace ourselves for a drive by....
Yes, but I hope they don't - the noise pollution from cars is one of their more objectionable characteristics. If they're going to add artificial noise, they might as well add 'choking fume generators'

"Catch 22"

There is a lot of evidence that people "look and listen", but often if they can't hear anything then they don't look.

If we leave electric vehicles silent, then there will be a number of injuries and deaths that the motoring lobby can exploit to ensure that petrol remains King

Noise generators are at the moment the only way that dozy pedestrians are going to notice these vehicles.

Re: Not your usual "Cyclists Dismount" sign!

13 June 2014 - 9:15pm
Dare I suggest that we're a bit off-topic ?

Re: Not your usual "Cyclists Dismount" sign!

13 June 2014 - 9:02pm
Curiously, I remember quite the opposite when I did Latin at school. There the gender was usually tied to the declension, so for example first declension** words were nearly all feminine. But if the word referred to an obvious male, like nauta (sailor) or agricola (farmer)*, then it took the masculine gender.

*I suppose that farmers and sailors were always men back in Roman times...

**mensa mensa mensam mensae mensae mensa mensae mensae mensas mensarum mensis mensis.... don't get me started!

Electric 'car' fright

13 June 2014 - 7:56pm
Someone overtaking and missing me by inches is never good, but today I was happily enjoying the sunny spin down a fairly wide country lane when an electric Renault Twizy passed by, well within my comfort zone.....My goodness, I jumped out of my skin.
The shock of not hearing it coming, the unexpected alien looking lump of metal and plastic and the fact that it was very close, really isn't on and I suppose we are going to have to get used to this sort of thing. I thought the manufacturers were going to give these 'cars' a noise so people like us lot would be able to brace ourselves for a drive by....

For those who don't know what one is, there are 3 photos here (the last one is ironic) -
http://www.renault.be/nl/gamma-renault/ ... tijden.jsp

Re: Quick ride out...

13 June 2014 - 7:26pm
Got my wheels home bungeed to the rear rack like this.
I've had a few rides so stress free and nice that I almost wrote about and shared them with the forum. Those days remind me why I love cycling

Re: Quick ride out...

13 June 2014 - 7:16pm
I find sometimes though that the worst time is when the roads are quiet and vehicle drivers really resent bikes for 'getting in the way' as they expected an easy run and won't wait. Rush hour in Aberdeen means people are resigned to the fate of sitting for a while and unlikely to do anything very bad. There are always exceptions...

Re: Not your usual "Cyclists Dismount" sign!

13 June 2014 - 7:11pm
Byalluch nuh ba would do...

Re: Quick ride out...

13 June 2014 - 5:19pm
When driving and cycling I have found that the amount of silly behaviour is much much greater during rush hours. Sometimes a half day finishing at lunch or a couple of hours overtime into the evening serve to highlight the rubbish behaviour you put up with on a daily basis. On the downside, going back to days after a year on nights was a rude awakening

Any chronic whiplash sufferers here?

13 June 2014 - 5:05pm
I've had this for 2 years after a rear shunt by a car. If anyone else has long lasting whiplash symptoms after an accident I'd be interested to hear how you cope with yours as the care I received has basically done nothing to improve it.

Re: Quick ride out...

13 June 2014 - 5:01pm
I had four plonkers today...but I have to say that their reactions left me feeling not at all annoyed as three out of them, on realising what they did wrong were massively apologetic right away. The fourth was a cyclist riding along the pavement, then crossing the road I was turning into. Despite staring at me while I approached making a big bold signal he just carried on into the road in front of me, and then nearly jumped out of his skin when he realised that I was two yards from him, and heading straight for him. I'd worked out exactly what he was going to do from the get go, and so he was in no danger however he did nearly wet himself! If I had been on my other bike, rather than just going into a track stand I would have done an 'endo' to see if I could get him to pass-out

Re: Quick ride out...

13 June 2014 - 4:21pm
661-Pete wrote:A lot of my rides are like that. They simply arent newsworthy, or forum-worthy, I suppose (though I have, now, uploaded some incident-free footage on youtube).

I'm curious as to how you carried two wheels to the LBS. Trailer?

Strapped to the rear rack... I'll grab a photo when I go to go home.

Then I'll need to work out two wheels and a pannier

Re: Not your usual "Cyclists Dismount" sign!

13 June 2014 - 4:15pm
661-Pete wrote:I have to confess, like many other English folk, most of my experience of Welsh, Gaelic or Irish words comes from place names. And they certainly lead to immense pronunciation problems for us. Like many cyclists, I've heard of the fabled Bealach na Bà - but I'd be flummoxed as to how to pronounce it!

Gaelic pronunciation is a bit of a dark art, especially since it hasn't had the spelling reform Irish has. Welsh gives you no excuse; it's almost entirely phonetic and ddy rwls cwd bi lyrnt in an afftyrnwn.

Re: Not your usual "Cyclists Dismount" sign!

13 June 2014 - 4:13pm
meic wrote:Postboxer wrote:Mrs PB moved to Wales in her youth, around the age of 12-13 I think, as she was a beginner at Welsh, she was put in the bottom class for Welsh AND English! Despite her being one of the brightest in her year. Seems silly forcing people to learn Welsh if they don't want to, better to force them to learn a useful language they don't want to and with a lot more speakers, Chinese or Russian for example.

Although I'm always tempted to learn Welsh, just because Welsh speakers will never suspect I know what they're saying about me.

Nothing would please us more but it will not cure your paranoia. Or is it vanity? does anybody think we honestly have nothing better to talk about?

Sure, if we wanted to say something and not be understood we could switch to Welsh and I must admit I rather enjoy doing that in Germany just to see the confusion on their faces when they think it is their English knowledge which is fading.

Do you notice the dilemma that above posts present to us?
If we change to your language when you are present you then go and post things like "I have been to Wales and nobody speaks Welsh there, there is no need to teach it in schools" and if we keep on talking in Welsh "The rude bleeps kept talking to each other in Welsh and we didnt know what they were talking about and it made us very paranoid".

Nothing would make us happier than for somebody to make the effort to join in.

Dw i'n ceisio, Meic, dw i'n ceisio.

Re: Not your usual "Cyclists Dismount" sign!

13 June 2014 - 4:09pm
I have to confess, like many other English folk, most of my experience of Welsh, Gaelic or Irish words comes from place names. And they certainly lead to immense pronunciation problems for us. Like many cyclists, I've heard of the fabled Bealach na Bà - but I'd be flummoxed as to how to pronounce it!

Re: Not your usual "Cyclists Dismount" sign!

13 June 2014 - 4:05pm
kwackers wrote:karlt wrote:I'd suggest that in Wales Welsh is going to be more useful than Russian.
I'm not sure that's actually true...

If you're in Wales I doubt you'll find anyone that can only speak Welsh (and not English), so in that respect the ability to speak Welsh isn't actually useful - more a nicety.

OTOH, if you need Russian then you need Russian. I'm going to have a stab in the dark here but I think I'd be prepared to put money on it that there are more people in Wales that speak Russian and no English than there are that speak Welsh and no English.
Hmmm, true enough but I'll wager that there are more jobs which require a working knowledge of Welsh. The 'nicety' of speaking welsh may also be a great advantage socially if you live in a welsh speaking area. Just not all that much use if your job didn't require it and you didn't live in a welsh speaking area.

Re: Quick ride out...

13 June 2014 - 3:58pm
And then you woke up...

Re: Quick ride out...

13 June 2014 - 3:56pm
A lot of my rides are like that. They simply arent newsworthy, or forum-worthy, I suppose (though I have, now, uploaded some incident-free footage on youtube).

I'm curious as to how you carried two wheels to the LBS. Trailer?

Re: Cycling snobbery!

13 June 2014 - 1:57pm
Another thing to add - although I say this with considerable trepidation. One of the persons who behaved in a most unpleasant manner towards me, is fairly well-known in the cycling scene. He organises group rides on a big scale. And he's a member of this forum I believe. If that individual recognises himself from this post, feel free to answer me.

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