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Re: Female Cyclist Death In North London

25 January 2015 - 8:11pm
It is unfair to condemn a whole category of road user (in this case tipper drivers) because by doing that you inevitably end up including some who are good drivers. I know a tipper driver who is aged about 60 and delivers stone in a large tipper (20tonnes). I am familiar with the way he drives, and he is the best sort of HGV driver you could hope to meet. He is skilled, he is cheerful and he is patient. He is a good man and he is well respected. I do not doubt all the stories about tipper drivers, but remember to be fair and to say what you say in a way that recognises that there are some good people in the group that you find fault with.

We cyclists are often treated unfairly by people who see bad behaviour and blame every cyclist for it, so we should know better than most about the need to blame the right people, and not aim our anger at everyone who uses a particular vehicle type.

Re: new found respect for the road

25 January 2015 - 7:53pm
Are you sure your OH hasn't attached a ACME magnet to your bike

Take your time recovering, so the universe can tally up how much luck it owes you.

Re: new found respect for the road

25 January 2015 - 7:48pm
Hi, you've been very unlucky. Best wishes for a swift recovery.

With respect, the moral of your story seems not to be "wear hi-viz and a helmet"; rather "it doesn't matter whether you wear hi-viz and a helmet; if the moron in the metal box hasn't seen you, you'll still be kissing tarmac".

Re: UKIP - get off road, cycle on pavement

25 January 2015 - 7:35pm
There can't be much else left for them to have a pop at, can there?
Apart from removing the franchise from the unworthy. They'll be saving that till after the election, I expect...

Re: UKIP - get off road, cycle on pavement

25 January 2015 - 6:19pm
I fear that UKIP will get more seats People of limited thought hear a accent or see a person of a different colour (regardless if they are born here)
then scream the country is being taken over.

Not much has changed since the 70s

Re: UKIP - get off road, cycle on pavement

25 January 2015 - 5:56pm
I think politics should be debated on most forums, especially in a General Election year. I recall reading a while ago that UKIP policy on cycling consisted mainly of issues that annoyed motorists, and that has been confirmed by the recent stupid comments from one of their candidates. Please ignore the bigots from UKIP in May.

Re: Don't judge a book by the cover.

25 January 2015 - 5:08pm
God topic.
Agreed it's too easy to make assumptions about people, especially young people.

Re: new found respect for the road

25 January 2015 - 4:21pm
ill be back soon dont you worry! im using the time to plan a big tour for summer.

Re: new found respect for the road

25 January 2015 - 3:56pm
As the snow flies.....



Sorry to hear of your incident, hope you make a swift recovery and summon up the courage to venture out again soon.

new found respect for the road

25 January 2015 - 3:50pm
a few months back i got hit by a van whilst minding my own business cycling down the road. the driver decided to pull out and plough into me! it was the middle of the day but apparently he didnt see me.
suffering a broken wrist and a little bang to the head. luckily i got off light.

ive always been very confident in riding everywhere, london, france wherever. a no hemlet fool.
so following the accident i had a severe blow to my road confidence and bought a tonne of new highvis/hemlet/gear.

anyway i decided yesterday it was time to give it a go again. and dressed in my luminous clothing, youll never guess what happened...i had a car fly past me and clip me with its wing mirror, knocking me down again! i managed to protect my fragile wrist and land on my elbow/hip instead. only getting a few scrapes.

I love riding my bike more than anything but im starting to wonder if the roads are truly just really unsafe.

im sure most of you are very careful on the roads but i thought id share this for anyone who was like me, or the whole of amsterdam, and thinks its a good idea to go riding without a helmet.

it appears there are a number of truly useless drivers out there!

KEEP YOUR EYES PEELED

Re: Shared paths road works and red cyclist dismount signs

25 January 2015 - 3:49pm

Yes, diversion signs for cyclists can be done.

AFAICT these were used when the Highways Agency upgraded the A2 six lane pseudo-motorway to eight lanes. Volumes of cyclists over that section at the time were practically nil but clearly they wanted to put an official diversion in place during the works, just in case (or just to satisfy their insurers).

What troubles me is that at the end of last summer they closed the cycletrack adjacent to the same stretch of the A2 but did not sign any alternative. Workmen on site stated that there was "no obvious alternative route" for them to sign. All the more need for a signed diversion. More disappointing was the fact that the diversion they had used a few years before for the carriageway works was perfectly suited to the task, they'd even left most of the signs in place .

What has left me gobsmacked in the latest closure is the fact that they don't consider the alternative on road route to be suitable, far safer to get off and walk through the woods in the dark .

Re: UKIP - get off road, cycle on pavement

25 January 2015 - 3:48pm
I can see both sides here, thus I would suggest that: if the thread stays vaguely about cycling then it can stay here. If it moves onto wider things and leaves cycling behind then we may split the non-cycling stuff out to the Tea Shop. But in either case, if people did happen to get nasty then we'd remove either bits of or the whole thing.

Re: UKIP - get off road, cycle on pavement

25 January 2015 - 3:41pm
wrangler_rover wrote:Note to the moderators:
It is maybe time to lock this thread as it has wandered into politics again and is in danger of becoming divisive, more so than the helmet debate!
Why ?
Politics are relevant to cycling (particularly where one party has a candidate who thinks cyclists should be banned from the roads and only allowed to cycle on pavements).

Anything is "in danger of becoming diverse". Even threads about QL release springs (or something like that).

It seems very relevant to cyclists and cycling so why on earth lock something "just in case ...".

Ian

Re: UKIP - get off road, cycle on pavement

25 January 2015 - 3:34pm
wrangler_rover wrote:Note to the moderators:
It is maybe time to lock this thread as it has wandered into politics again and is in danger of becoming divisive, more so than the helmet debate!
The problem with a remark like that, is that the person making it, often does so out of aspiring to have the last word - even if it is marginally off-topic! This thread was about politics from the outset, it hasn't 'wandered' into it.

Re: Shared paths road works and red cyclist dismount signs

25 January 2015 - 3:14pm
Twice, I have seen signs to help cyclists, so I know it can be done. One time, a rail crossing was closed for repair. And it was completely closed. It was located several miles along a single lane road that would mean coming back along the same route. I don't know who was responsible for the sign, but along with the standard road works signs, there was one that said 'cyclists use diversion'. It was standard-looking and slightly weathered sign, so I presume it could have been used on other occasions. The other time was on the London / Essex border, so I'm not sure the authority responsible. There were various road works & diversion signs. And there was also a sign that said 'route for cyclists'. When I followed it, I came to a park, where there was a sign that said 'cyclists dismount and use footway'. There, the route led down a pavement next to a park (it wasn't really a footway, but I presume they were using a standard sign), and on the other side was a residential street. It was a nice diversion, and rather shorter than the on-road one. It was a little unfortunate that there were no more signs after that to tell cyclists how to rejoin the main road, but at least someone had thought about it, and I managed to figure it out.

Re: UKIP - get off road, cycle on pavement

25 January 2015 - 2:54pm
Merry_Wanderer wrote:I doubt if the people voting UKIP look beyond their proposals on immigration. Hopefully some greater exposure of UKIP to TV debate programmes will expose their (in my opinion) lack of credibility

Unfortunately the one example we have of the Cleggers v Farrago debate on the BBC resulted in voters going for Farrago. To expose a lack of credibility you also need a lack of gullibility.

Re: Don't judge a book by the cover.

25 January 2015 - 2:42pm
Ossum story

Re: UKIP - get off road, cycle on pavement

25 January 2015 - 2:41pm
"The SNP is a party enlightened offering more equality for all."
That is good if you are Scottish.
The way I see it, the SNP want England to bankroll Scotland, they want independence from England but they want to have their say on English issues in Westminster. Hypocritical?

Note to the moderators:
It is maybe time to lock this thread as it has wandered into politics again and is in danger of becoming divisive, more so than the helmet debate!

Re: Don't judge a book by the cover.

25 January 2015 - 2:29pm
Don't get me started on "Absolutely!" .
The cyclists that turned up at my ice patch as the lads rode away immediately started to slag off the boys on their motorbikes. I put them right ln no uncertain terms. They weren't convinced. Any chance to have a moan I think.

Re: UKIP - get off road, cycle on pavement

25 January 2015 - 2:00pm
This whole rise of popularity in UKIP makes my stomach churn and fills me with dismay and disbelief. Unbelievable they actually have women in the party who will turn back the clock for women's rights. As they will do with gay rights too.
The evidence is we as a nation are dissatisfied with the present state of political parties so here in Scotland there has been a huge shift to SNP. The SNP is a party enlightened offering more equality for all. Whilst in England UKIP seems to be offering the exact opposite.

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