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Re: Cycling opportunity Keswick -Kendal

10 January 2016 - 1:03pm
Closed roads are shown on www.roadworks.org for most councils and Highways England.

Re: Cycling opportunity Keswick -Kendal

10 January 2016 - 12:17pm
Edwards wrote:I once ignored some road closed signs, I rode down a nice hill with no other vehicles.

When I got to the bottom I found diggers and other stuff but no bridge. It was a long way back up with a bike loaded with camping gear.

I had the same but a workman walked me through across their temporary bridge to allow them to access both sides of the river.

But more generally does anyone know of a map with all the closed roads in the Lakes for route planning purposes. I know Thirlmere is off limits for now and Pooley Bridge will be for some time to come by the looks of it. But where else is also out? I'd rather go and support the local businesses than stay away

Re: Someone nearly killed me today

10 January 2016 - 10:53am
robing wrote:... The point is these are regular occurrences I suspect for most cyclists, but we just shrug and carry on. I like to think I should be able to anticipate any driver errors ahead of me and stop in time. Being taken out from behind though is another matter entirely. I don't tend to dwell on things too much or let it spoil my cycling. Plus I think winter is a more dangerous time to cycle - darker, poor visibility, low sun, slippery surfaces etc.
I agree that winter is more dangerous but it's still pretty safe. Being taken out from behind is also fairly rare - IIRC the most common collisions are T-bones, left hooks, right crosses, getting squeezed to the kerb/verge, doorings and riding out into traffic (failing to give way) - while most are motorist-inflicted, you might at least see most coming.

Discussions like this always make me wonder what I'm doing differently to "most cyclists" or at least most on here - or what's different in the fens although I have lived elsewhere (but cycling was harder there and not just because of hills). Almost all of my collisions have been self-inflicted (I think I've been ridden into once...) and I rarely suffer close passes outside of a few known troublespots (mainly where bad driving and bad road design meet)... I get plenty of dumb abuse from frustrated motorists, but maybe people are less inclined to get physical with a 6ft man on a workhorse bike than some others?

Or is it where I ride? Could it be that many/most people around here know people who cycle, or have driven in nearby Cambridge where cycling is rampant? I often see people I know out cycling, which didn't really happen when I lived elsewhere.

Or is it that I use non-crazy cycle facilities and despite frequent assertions to the contrary and not showing up as safer in stats (primarily because of botched junction designs and poor maintenance IMO), cycle tracks and routes tend to be less near-miss-y? Here's a typical route for me http://cycle.travel/map/journey/376 (although it gets confused around the A47 junction - I'll take a look at OSM later - I often ride on the road northbound through that junction, but I find it stressful trying to take the lane southbound so I usually use the cycle track despite it being narrow sharp-cornered crap) - how many of you would ride London Road rather than Hardings Way? Would you ride on the A149 and A10 rather than the cycle tracks? Would you keep on down the A10 instead of heading for NCR11 through the villages?

Re: London - Finsbury Park to Blackfriars

10 January 2016 - 10:27am
TonyR wrote:Onyerbike1979 wrote:....... or if anyone can tell me how to send a PM that would be even better!!

Assuming you are using a web browser just look on the right of the post and there should be a little square with PM written in it. Click that and @Dsalmon01's your uncle
Stupidly I figured it out not long after posting!! Appreciate the help all the same.

So bike wont be ready until Thursday but I have bought all the relevant gear, good lock, good lights, repair kit, extra tubes etc.

Looking forward to getting on the road asap!

Re: Cycling opportunity Keswick -Kendal

10 January 2016 - 10:19am
I once ignored some road closed signs, I rode down a nice hill with no other vehicles.

When I got to the bottom I found diggers and other stuff but no bridge. It was a long way back up with a bike loaded with camping gear.

Re: Someone nearly killed me today

10 January 2016 - 10:12am
When I was a trainee scuba diver many years ago one of the rules drummed into us was to always think " what if ? ". In other words constantly assess your situation and make sure you have at the back of your mind what you would do in an emergency. Somehow I have translated this into cycling ( and driving ) and always keep an almost subconscious escape route in mind. Some of the posters here obviously do this and it has served them well even if they just put it down to experience.
The other adage was that there are old divers and bold divers but no old bold divers. Translate that into cycling terms!

Re: Cycling opportunity Keswick -Kendal

10 January 2016 - 9:57am
Graham wrote:A "Road Closed" sign really does mean it these days.

Back in the 20th century a Road Closed sign would bring a smile to my face because it could safely interpreted as "Closed to motor vehicles . . but there is nearly always a way through for pedestrians & cyclists".

If work was in progress the workmen would sympathetically respond to enable safe passage. No big deal.

Having been through a few "learning experiences" I now understand that it really means what it say - for all road users.

Fencing-off is comprehensive and robust.
The closure points may be guarded.
Even if a workman takes pity and thinks you might get through ( which is unlikely as their briefings are emphatic ). The Foreman / Site Safety person will very likely intervene and keep you out / send you back.

Under these circumstances it doesn't do our group image any good to push through and get caught. ( As in the web newspaper article above. )

That's not my experience. I've often explored when there has been a road closed sign especially if it means a long detour and usually there is at least pedestrian access and in the rare occasions there isn't I have been helpfully escorted through the work while the diggers etc take a short pause. But I would never, as seems to have been happening here, remove barriers or ignore the requests of workers - I always approach them or any police first to politely ask if its OK and passable on bike or foot.

Re: Cycling opportunity Keswick -Kendal

10 January 2016 - 9:50am
A "Road Closed" sign really does mean it these days.

Back in the 20th century a Road Closed sign would bring a smile to my face because it could safely interpreted as "Closed to motor vehicles . . but there is nearly always a way through for pedestrians & cyclists".

If work was in progress the workmen would sympathetically respond to enable safe passage. No big deal.

Having been through a few "learning experiences" I now understand that it really means what it say - for all road users.

Fencing-off is extensive and robust.
The closure points may be guarded.
Even if a workman takes pity and thinks you might get through ( which is unlikely as their briefings are emphatic ). The Foreman / Site Safety person will very likely intervene and keep you out / send you back.

Under these circumstances it doesn't do our group image any good to push through and get caught. ( As in the web newspaper article above. )

Re: Cycling opportunity Keswick -Kendal

10 January 2016 - 9:02am
The road is definitely closed to all and the BBC report was wrong in indicating otherwise:

http://www.thewestmorlandgazette.co.uk/ ... y_council/

Re: What camera?

9 January 2016 - 11:20pm
hercule wrote:Has anyone experience of this GoPro clone? Good reviews on Amazon, plus you can replace the battery (something it seems you can't do on the cheapest GoPro).

Qumox SJ 4000Read the 1,2 and 3 star reviews and some are far from good!
I always read the low star ratings before the higher ones.

Re: What camera?

9 January 2016 - 9:56pm
Has anyone experience of this GoPro clone? Good reviews on Amazon, plus you can replace the battery (something it seems you can't do on the cheapest GoPro).

Qumox SJ 4000

Re: Cycling opportunity Keswick -Kendal

9 January 2016 - 8:39pm
They are now saying there is no access at all to the public.
Pity they didn't say so in the first place.
I still can't see how it can be safe for children but unsafe for the public. Walkers up there are 'allowed' to do Striding Edge 'unsupervised', for heavens' sake.

(Mind you, given two encounters I had with the Cumbria Tourist Board during Foot and Mouth* I do wonder whether the authorities there really want tourists.)

*, one on the phone when I asked very politely where the public were allowed to go (i.e., could we walk on the roads, what precautions should we take about washing/cleaning boots, etc,) because we didn't want to let our usual B&B down by not going (the woman on the phone was very rude) and another at a nearly empty TIC when up there when I saw a member of staff being incredibly rude to a foreign tourist who was just asking (again, politely) what attractions he could visit. I was gobsmacked.

Re: Someone nearly killed me today

9 January 2016 - 8:12pm
White van turned left into me at a traffic light junction a few weeks ago. Knocked me off the bike and drove off. I was sat at the front of the lights in the green box. Lights changed, I set off and he decided to overtake and turn left. Incredible! Luckily the bike handlebars took the contact and I fisted the side of the van as I fell over, which I guess pushed me away from the wheels.

Re: Someone nearly killed me today

9 January 2016 - 8:02pm
The route I used for a commute some years ago resulted on an average of one attempt to kill me every day and that's not being over dramatic! Left turners, close passes, side roads, RLJ's. Riding primary didn't help, I always wear bright clothing, lights when appropriate etc. Taxis, buses even trams all had a go at me.

Change of job and route and the difference was amazing, more main road but fewer incidents - I sometimes go several days without someone aiming a metal box at me. Over the last few years i've had fewer left turners (although I had 3 one night in 200m's!) what I have seen is a lot of increasingly dangerous manouevers by other bicycle riders - riding against traffic on one way streets/junctions, undertaking other bikes - one brompton rider never stops at any traffic signal!

No one should get a driving licence without passing a cycle awareness/proficiency test. When I ride in countries where cycle use is more common drivers are always more aware of cyclists.

Re: Most Annoying and Potentially Dangerous Motoring Manoeuv

9 January 2016 - 7:00pm
Driving on a shared use pedestrian/cycletrack.

Re: Most Annoying and Potentially Dangerous Motoring Manoeuv

9 January 2016 - 6:43pm
greyingbeard wrote:Driving on the wrong side of the road, heavy oncoming traffic, and deliberately ramming the person on two wheels.

See todays daily mail. Must be true they have loads of pictures and never get sued for libel

An Audi driver too. Who would have thunk it?

Re: Someone nearly killed me today

9 January 2016 - 5:32pm
I think I've only had one ride without incident over the last 4 years since returning to cycling and it was such a nice surprise that I even posted a thread on it on the forum.
Suffice to say I keep the bike in perfect running condition so I know I can depend on the brakes and tyres to get me out of a potential pancake moment if I see it coming.

Re: Most Annoying and Potentially Dangerous Motoring Manoeuv

9 January 2016 - 5:01pm
Driving on the wrong side of the road, heavy oncoming traffic, and deliberately ramming the person on two wheels.

See todays daily mail. Must be true they have loads of pictures and never get sued for libel

Re: Someone nearly killed me today

9 January 2016 - 4:59pm
661-Pete wrote:Seems to be a bit like this one of mine then. Annoying and dangerous, yes: but I think "nearly killed" is possibly a bit strong. Unless your encounter was a lot closer than mine.

Similar sort of thing. I did say the title was a bit over dramatic. The point is these are regular occurrences I suspect for most cyclists, but we just shrug and carry on. I like to think I should be able to anticipate any driver errors ahead of me and stop in time. Being taken out from behind though is another matter entirely. I don't tend to dwell on things too much or let it spoil my cycling. Plus I think winter is a more dangerous time to cycle - darker, poor visibility, low sun, slippery surfaces etc.

Re: Most Annoying and Potentially Dangerous Motoring Manoeuv

9 January 2016 - 4:58pm
Drivers that get impatient at light-controlled junctions and pull out of the queue to bomb it on the wrong side of the road to take a right turn before the light-controlled junction (often a garage forecourt on the corner - they use it to bypass the lights). There are a couple of such junctions in Coventry that I use regularly both as a cyclist and a pedestrian.

As a pedestrian, I get frustrated at light-controlled crossroads where I don't have enough time to cross the road between light changes because drivers amber-gamble and RLJ to fill the time up until the other traffic starts flowing in earnest (this even happens when pedestrians have the 'green man' light in their favour).

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