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Re: Pulled Over By The Police

17 September 2014 - 9:58am
Hi,
I thought of "focus" before reading above post.

Its all about focusing on what is important or lack of focus on what is definately important, you would think that child care or protection of children / vunerable people in the community is important......but obvoiusly today and yesterday it is and was not

The media BBC SW reported on suposed increase in cycling deaths and asked "what could be done" so they look at their tablets and read some comments from the public media twits (tweets) one of which was cyclist running red lights..............

If this has some bearing on the increase in cyclist deaths then lets hear it but it appears to my cynical mind that they are just picking up on what is easy and close to hand instead of confirmable facts............................
The CTC rep they filmed seemed weak and more polititian than authoritable / clear to understand why he was even there

Mass reporting of one or even several individuals / groups is not neccesarily an acurate view of facts / majority views / opinions.

Re: Punishment Pass - By a Cyclist

17 September 2014 - 9:50am
you are just one of the vermin that litters the road as road kill?

Re: Richard 111 "Not wearing helmet"

17 September 2014 - 9:47am
clearly a victim of road rage by our cabby friend

Re: Punishment Pass - By a Cyclist

17 September 2014 - 9:45am
Contact the club, just to let them know as it may be something they are already aware of.


Our club has a strict "cheery wave/nod, friendly greeting and plenty of space" policy when out, even on the fast paced ride.
But then again, coffee and cake stops are mandatory too!

Re: Latest speeding excuse..

17 September 2014 - 9:33am
Flinders wrote:I read the actual report.
According to that, he already had six points on his licence. Given how unlikely it is that any speeding driver is caught, if those points were for speeding, he would have to be a serial offender, and I would not have taken the excuse given.
Either it's a legitimate excuse or it isn't. The number of points already on the licence has no bearing on that, nor does any speculation that he's a "serial speeder". He might be the unluckiest man in the World or he might be an out and out nut-job, who knows?

Re: Pulled Over By The Police

17 September 2014 - 9:31am
[quote="thirdcrank"

If it's frequent, then we are in the bizarre situation that against a background of a collapse in traffic enforcement, time is being found to devote to something which is hardly a policing priority.

[/quote]

Happens a lot in failing organisations- things start to fall apart, the powers that be can't sort out the big problems, so they focus on the small ones, and/or the easiest people to bully rather than the real offenders. Schools where the kids run amock and big kids are violent but where the staff ignore the big problems and pick on little, quiet, well-behaved kids for wearing the wrong colour socks is the prime example.

Re: Pulled Over By The Police

17 September 2014 - 9:27am
Sorry, made a multiple post for some reason....not sure how I managed it.

Richard 111 "Not wearing helmet"

17 September 2014 - 7:50am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-le ... e-29222775

He obviously had it coming to him. He probably wasn't wearing a fluorescent jacket either.

Re: Latest speeding excuse..

17 September 2014 - 12:29am

Re: Punishment Pass - By a Cyclist

16 September 2014 - 9:58pm
I get this occasionally - I've always assumed that we just have to live with it. It comes to a point that, if I see a bunch of roadies approaching, and I throw a cheery "good morning" or "good evening", and they return the greeting, I'm the one who nearly tumbles out of my saddle in astonishment. Things ought not to have come to this pass.

I can't expect a fully-kitted-up roadie to have a bell, but at least some sort of verbal warning, and a decent amount of room - it doesn't cost anything!

Re: Punishment Pass - By a Cyclist

16 September 2014 - 9:45pm
You're right to be annoyed. That's bad cycling by anyone's standards. Perhaps he's dismissive of anyone not on the same type of bike as him? Muppet.

Punishment Pass - By a Cyclist

16 September 2014 - 9:30pm
I could not believe this…
Last week I dropped my car in for repairs and popped my folding bike in the boot. So at the garage I handed over the keys and pedalled off home. Its a route I know well (A1000 between Hatfield and Potters Bar, Hertfordshire). As I was nearing the end of my journey a roadie, replete in kit from a Finchley cycling club (How do I know...it was plastered all over his backside, white text on a black kit) overtook me. Fine. I don't care as such about that…

His handlebar was less than an inch from mine. One wobble from either of us, we 'd both be all over the road. No warning (he had headphones in). He then brutally cut in front of me causing me to swerve. Why? Its not as if a car was coming…the road was empty for at least 2 minutes either side of the incident.

Why? This is not the TdF, or the ToB. Its poor road craft. Thats all. All I can hope is that this individual self selects themselves out of the evolutionary chain.. cycling recklessly like that he will and it will be his fault and no one else's.

I was tempted to ring the club secretary and have a rant, but having spoken to these sort of clubs in Hertfordshire I doubt they would even care to listen let alone see what the problem is…

If I ran a club ..I'd throw him out for bringing the club into disrepute or at least warn him of this.

Many forum members would do the same for errant drivers..ring the firm concerned. Maybe its time we started to haul these errant cyclists back in too...

Re: Pulled Over By The Police

16 September 2014 - 9:19pm
Two points:-

When pulled over like this (or indeed anytime you are stopped by the police), always ask under what piece of legislation you are being stopped or what offence you are being charged with. If they can't name it or can't tell you, you are perfectly within your rights to say 'well, unless there was anything else, I'm off then'. You are a citizen going about your lawful business; (alright the terrorism legislation is different, but I don't think that is in this league)

Complain: in writing to the Police force. Check the website and follow the requirements down to the letter. As much detail as you can, weather, road conditions, what you were wearing (or not).Its really important that this sort of bullying ( and thats what it is) is stopped and the officers concerned given 'words of advice'. Abuse of legal powers is a serious matter.

I wonder is it worth CTC getting some advice from Liberty on this sort of thing? A set of standard advice would be very useful!

Re: Latest speeding excuse..

16 September 2014 - 8:49pm
I never leave home without one of these
http://www.stadiumpal.com/what-works.html

Re: Latest speeding excuse..

16 September 2014 - 8:06pm
iviehoff wrote:In Ireland, apparently until today it sufficed to be/know/bribe a policeman (garda) to get points off your licence.


A known problem. It was so bad in France that they introduced on-the-spot fines, as long ago as the '80s, to overcome it. The chances of you being stopped by your brother/father/cousin/uncle are fairly remote.

Re: Short Survey - Do you use service stations?

16 September 2014 - 8:05pm
At 1.00am, 346k into a 600k ride (Daylight 600 audax) coffee and sandwiches at the all night garage in Fort William made a very welcome break.

Re: Latest speeding excuse..

16 September 2014 - 7:34pm
In Ireland, apparently until today it sufficed to be/know/bribe a policeman (garda) to get points off your licence.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/ga ... 86382.html

Though apparently it will be someone in the points office in future.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/top- ... 33687.html

Re: Car with cameras

16 September 2014 - 7:19pm
It occurs to me, if Mr Honker does decide to post his footage on Youtube, how would you ever find it or even know it exists? Unless you noted his reg. number and he stupidly uses that as the title of his video... after all, many cyclists posting footage of an incident with a vehicle, will include the offender's number plate in the title.

Aha. I've got it! He was signalling to you to "put some ****ing number plates on yer bike" - just so he could add a title to his video....

Re: Latest speeding excuse..

16 September 2014 - 7:13pm
Vorpal wrote:Err.... so pull over & pee?

Other than that... had his medical condition been reported to DVLA? Perhaps his privilege to drive should be reconsidered based on the medical condition? :twisted:
I agree. If you have a medical condition that can mean you cannot (always) drive within the law, then I would have thought you should not be driving; not being let off speeding offences. Because it means that the driver will undoubtedly end-up in a similar situation again and will be speeding again, etc. until such time as this medical condition is resolved.

Ian

Re: Latest speeding excuse..

16 September 2014 - 7:12pm
Same problem in this camp. I can find myself in some 'difficulty' especially if I'm stuck in a traffic jam in lane 3 of the motorway, with no way of pulling across to the hard shoulder...

I usually try to get behind a bush or tree. But if you just stand on the hard shoulder, could you be arrested for indecent behaviour or whatever?

The same problem happens when cycling, of course, and can be an embarrassment in a built-up area. Luckily most of my cycling is in the countryside.

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