CTC Forum - On the road

Syndicate content
Discussion boards hosted by CTC, the national cycling charity
Updated: 12 min 29 sec ago

Re: proviz victim blaming advert

18 December 2014 - 2:40pm
How about this video from Wowow... "sorry I didn't see you". They claim in the video description that "You will be seen with the 3M Spoke Reflectors!"
I found it quite distasteful.

Re: proviz victim blaming advert

18 December 2014 - 2:19pm
And having now viewed the video - it's also not showing the view from any single one of the people who are posing a danger to the cyclist...

Presumably because when you get tboned you weren't in the headlight beam and therefore no amount of retro-reflective material will do any good.

Re: proviz victim blaming advert

18 December 2014 - 1:50pm
Tonyf33 wrote:It looked like they surpressed the cyclists rear light on the video (& the dark jacket) because it was terribly feint and enhanced the 'glow' on the jacket. I might report it to the ASA for false representation as it has clearly being altered to suit their agenda and clearly won't glow like that in any environ short of a direct all around beam of light projected on it..which a car headlights won't..
Absolutely disgraceful

If you look at it closely its clear that any difference is down to video post processing not actual real life differences. Because you can flip between the on-off with complete continuity its clearly one video, not two videos merged.

Re: proviz victim blaming advert

18 December 2014 - 10:54am
This is almost worth a complaint to the ASA

The advert is misleading, makes unsubstantiated claims and misrepresent the abilities of the product

Re: proviz victim blaming advert

18 December 2014 - 10:51am
That was my first thought as well. Watching it again it looks like they've gone for a trendy desaturated look, which limits the colour gamut as the red is very weak throughout the video.

Re: proviz victim blaming advert

18 December 2014 - 9:45am
It looked like they surpressed the cyclists rear light on the video (& the dark jacket) because it was terribly feint and enhanced the 'glow' on the jacket. I might report it to the ASA for false representation as it has clearly being altered to suit their agenda and clearly won't glow like that in any environ short of a direct all around beam of light projected on it..which a car headlights won't..
Absolutely disgraceful

Re: proviz victim blaming advert

17 December 2014 - 9:52pm
I was like the people who stop and tell me that I'm invisible. They normally get very confused when I ask who they are talking to...

Re: Bike lift...

17 December 2014 - 8:36pm
There is no "Health and Safety Brigade" - they're an invention of the Daily Mail.

Re: proviz victim blaming advert

17 December 2014 - 8:09pm
I'm always surprised as a passenger by some of the comments I hear from who ever is driving. My favourite being, "Look at that pillock riding with no lights!"
Lights or not, said pillock was seen or he wouldn't have been mentioned.

Re: proviz victim blaming advert

17 December 2014 - 7:53pm
The local fell runners use the roads near us for winter evening training & one of them has a similar jacket - you can definitely see where he (I think it is a he but they are a mixed group) is when out in the car but I don't find it excessively bright as the level of reflectivity doen't seem to be quite as bright as some reflectives, there's just a lot of it.

Rick.

Re: proviz victim blaming advert

17 December 2014 - 7:49pm
The level of victim blaming (in the description, I'm not blessing their video with a view) is atrocious. The fact is that motorists are already literally let off murder without a trial...

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=92725

You don't need to be a lighthouse, you just need motorists to look where they are going. This is the problem we need to overcome, and no amount of clothing will change the inattention we have bred on our roads.

Re: Tesco unicycle stands

17 December 2014 - 6:55pm
cotswolds wrote:My local Tesco has them, been cursing them for years each time the bike fell over as I was loading the panniers... until I discovered they work much better if you reverse in when they work fine. Only works if the rack is reasonably empty otherwise access to panniers is difficult.
The ones around here are so close to the wall that reversing in would leave the front wheel unsecured unless you have a realllllllly loooooooong cable.

Re: Tesco unicycle stands

17 December 2014 - 6:27pm
cotswolds wrote:Psamathe wrote:Yes, too short (my local Tesco has them as well). Would work better if installed the other way round (higher end away from the wall) and further out from the wall.

Ian

My local Tesco has them, been cursing them for years each time the bike fell over as I was loading the panniers... until I discovered they work much better if you reverse in when they work fine. Only works if the rack is reasonably empty otherwise access to panniers is difficult.
I would say that for any bike that is intended to carry any kind of load a propstand is essential - preferably a twin legged one or a single leg mounted at the rear axle.

Re: proviz victim blaming advert

17 December 2014 - 6:11pm
Wouldn't surprise if the first time someone gets knocked off their bike when wearing one these jackets the driver claims they dazzled by it and could not see properly. I have bright and high vis clothing, lights on the bike and on my helmet but if someone is not looking in the right direction none of this will matter one jot. And there seem to be plenty of drivers who don't care about your presence on the road whatever your visibility is - they seem compelled to try and squeeze past you rather than wait for a safe space to do so. So I won't be buying a 'radioactive gorilla' suit myself, I am happy that I make myself visible enough to counter any contributory negligence claims should I be unfortunate enough o be shunted off the road by Mr Magoo.

Re: proviz victim blaming advert

17 December 2014 - 6:09pm
It's amazing how much that jacket glows, even when cycling through unlit areas.

proviz victim blaming advert

17 December 2014 - 4:58pm

Re: Tesco unicycle stands

17 December 2014 - 3:35pm
Psamathe wrote:Yes, too short (my local Tesco has them as well). Would work better if installed the other way round (higher end away from the wall) and further out from the wall.

Ian

My local Tesco has them, been cursing them for years each time the bike fell over as I was loading the panniers... until I discovered they work much better if you reverse in when they work fine. Only works if the rack is reasonably empty otherwise access to panniers is difficult.

Re: Bike lift...

16 December 2014 - 10:02pm
It was installed in 93 I think

Re: Bike lift...

16 December 2014 - 9:25pm
Not sure about worlds first - I am sure I saw a picture of this system in a copy of Cyclepedia back in the 90's being used in San Francisco.

Re: Motorcycles using cycle designated parking

16 December 2014 - 9:05pm
I must admit I have parked a motorcycle in cycle parking areas, this has nearly always been at Hospitals and only if I couldn't find a motorcycle parking area.
I can't see a problem as lone as there is enough room.
What I would like to see is the 'awkward' areas of the car park (that is the odd shaped areas where cars couldn't park) used for motorcycles instead of cross-hatch painting them over ( obviously cross-hatch next to a disabled bay is for wheelchair access)

Archive

  • Patron: Her Majesty The Queen
  • President: Jon Snow
  • Chief Executive: Paul Tuohy
  • Cyclists' Touring Club (CTC): A company limited by guarantee, registered in England no.25185. Registered as a charity in England and Wales No 1147607 and in Scotland No SC042541

 

Terms and Conditions