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Re: Why do we do it?

20 September 2014 - 1:03pm
bensonboo wrote:[XAP]Bob wrote:Note I'm not advocating RLJ or other law breaking, but to let that become the debate is silly - the debate is why we let motorists kill thousands each year, not why a minority of cyclists do the same as a majority of motorists (RLJ)
Majority of motorists RLJ?

Utter rubbish.
See how many don't stop when the lights change to amber and proceed to carry on for a few seconds afterwards. Of course that is just "amber gambling" or being a bit cheeky, not law breaking like those ruddy cyclists do

Re: Why do we do it?

20 September 2014 - 12:30pm
I saw a lorry carrying half a dozen brand new Peugeots jump a red light this morning.

Because I was also driving a truck, albeit a much smaller one, I felt embarrased.

Not.

I just mumbled "chump" under my breath and away he went. Any person or group foolish enough to tar an entire section of society based upon the actions of a single member of that group aren't worth listening to in the first place.

Re: Why do we do it?

20 September 2014 - 10:26am
[XAP]Bob wrote:Note I'm not advocating RLJ or other law breaking, but to let that become the debate is silly - the debate is why we let motorists kill thousands each year, not why a minority of cyclists do the same as a majority of motorists (RLJ)
Majority of motorists RLJ?

Utter rubbish.

Re: Short Survey - Do you use service stations?

20 September 2014 - 9:49am
Use them all the time, the best ones are those that have a mini supermarket attached, great for water, sandwiches, etc. no problem parking the bike.

Re: Short Survey - Do you use service stations?

20 September 2014 - 9:37am
rjb wrote:I've used motorway service stations in the past. You have to find the back entrance obviously but they can be great for an all night breakfast. The club would use them on an all night ride
That reminds me of the times when the club used the services at Corley on a regular basis as passed the back entrance on many of our routes... Bet the sight of 6-10 bikes locked up outside turned a few heads. I know Ferrybridge used to be used on 'Bernie's Long Flat One' 600l audax and a very welcome sight those cooling towers were and oh how long they seemed to take to get closer .......

Re: Short Survey - Do you use service stations?

20 September 2014 - 8:55am
I wish I could run my chainsaw, my lawnmower, my hedge timmer, and my strimmer on veg oil from Costco!

It annoys me greatly that I have to buy petrol and pay the fuel duty on it to pay for roads. I get through about 20ltrs a year, not much in the great scheme of things but £25 a year to just maintain our garden and land is a bit much.

Re: Short Survey - Do you use service stations?

20 September 2014 - 8:49am
Lance Dopestrong wrote:I don't even use them for fuel. I buy my vegetable oil in 20 litre drums from Costco.
And declare it for tax purposes of course...

Re: Wrong way up a one way street.

20 September 2014 - 12:11am
There's a narrow, parked car clogged street near me which is not one way but has a no entry sign at one end. At the no entry end it has a special little bike lane to bypass the no entry sign.

I've lost count of the number of irate motorists who've told me its a one way street as I block their way as I go the 'wrong' way and wait for them to back up to get off my side of the road.

Especially amusing are the ones who tell me to read the Highway Code.

Re: Short Survey - Do you use service stations?

19 September 2014 - 11:29pm
A sign of the times.

Many rural pubs have gone, or have limited hours

Equally so have many village shops.

Garages and "service stations" however remain.

When touring they often provide the opportunity to stock up that is otherwise denied

Re: Off The bike for a while

19 September 2014 - 10:43pm
Hi,
Well done.
Some say I got a chip on my shoulder..............I have the right one

Re: Short Survey - Do you use service stations?

19 September 2014 - 8:06pm
I've used motorway service stations in the past. You have to find the back entrance obviously but they can be great for an all night breakfast. The club would use them on an all night ride

Re: Cafe & coffee

19 September 2014 - 6:36pm
Definition of a Yorkshireman........just like a Scotsman, but with all the generosity squeezed out.

Nothings is ever quite right for a Yorkshireman......the thought of a dose of salmonella from Dunnies is nearly as frightening as letting somebody make a living from serving coffee!

Pedal a bit further, and try "Teacups" in the cattle market at Pateley Bridge.....that's Yorkshire farmers prices, even cheaper than the WI ladies in Ripley church on a Wednesday.

Or theres Cockpit Farm between Otley and Askwith.....but I harbour a suspicion that they are trying to make a living.

....or you could ride on to Bolton Abbey, and pay His Lordship's prices in the Cavendish Pavilion......

You know the difference between a lost love and a lost golf ball?
....a Yorkshireman will search for hours for a lost ball.....

Re: someone's got it right

19 September 2014 - 5:29pm
Or is it the Wizard of Oz?

Re: Lewes Road Brighton- new facility any good?

19 September 2014 - 5:28pm
The floating bus stops (new terminology for me) on Lewes Road look quite decent on the slide show- I think it helps if the bus shelters are transparent with no advert posters etc. obscuring a pedestrian's view of cyclists and vice versa, particularly at the ends.

Re: Lewes Road Brighton- new facility any good?

19 September 2014 - 4:21pm
Pete Owens wrote:And that plan looks positively lethal. Cyclists are taken off the road to go behind a bus stop then re-emerge onto the carriageway brom behind a stopped bus just at the approach to a junction.
And yet, the design has been used in Cambridge (example http://www.cyclestreets.net/location/59203/ and links) and overseas for years without particular danger AFAIK (checked on http://www.cyclestreets.net/collisions/ ... 0352735510 for the Cambridge example)
niggle wrote:[...] Another issue will be how pedestrians are enabled to cross the cycle lane to reach the bus stop- opportunity for conflict there.

Whenever anybody criticises a facility I do think they should back it up with their solution, or to say up front that they are opposed to all facilities...
Amen! I know Pete Owens is far more sceptical than I am, but comparing the cycleways I enjoy with the really nasty rubbish he's experienced, I can't blame him much.

Floating bus stops are another crossing for pedestrians, but everyone can see everyone so I'd be surprised if there were collisions rather than people needing to slow down slightly and give way, at worst. The key is making the crossing clear to everyone, which the Brighton design seems to try to do with tactile pavers, although I'd prefer some colouring.

Re: Off The bike for a while

19 September 2014 - 4:08pm
I had the operation yesterday and I've just returned home. Isn't anaesthesia wonderful! You fall asleep with a problem and when you wake up it's gone. Well, the egg sized bump on my shoulder has gone.
Doctor says I should be riding my bike again in about four weeks.

Re: someone's got it right

19 September 2014 - 3:58pm
trading on the Mary Poppins connection?

Re: Lewes Road Brighton- new facility any good?

19 September 2014 - 3:58pm
What you can say about Brighton is that at least there seems to be a positive attitude from the authorities towards cycling, unlike the do nothing or box ticking exercise of many others. For example there are cyclists reverse flow on some streets and they are trying to increase more 20mph areas. However I haven't cycled around Brighton enough to comment in detail.

Re: Non driving cyclists

19 September 2014 - 3:41pm
[XAP]Bob wrote:The Mechanic wrote:How close does a car DRL have to be to affect the iris in broad daylight? Since this is a "medical fact" I assume someone must know the "facts"

Not very close - I get badly dazzled by them at 100m range...Agreed that they are far too bright and unnecessarily so. A friend of mine who has them, has more than once started to drive his vehicle at night because they gave sufficient light for him to assume headlights were on, which indicates they are excessively bright.

Of course there are daytime running lights on some bicycle lights.

Re: someone's got it right

19 September 2014 - 3:39pm
Recently bought Mrs Dopestrong a Pendleton Initial road bike. It's a proper wee thing for the money.

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