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Re: Pulled Over By The Police

17 September 2014 - 11:44am
Bicycler wrote:Indeed, no problem there. He made a mistake and acknowledged it.

The only time I have been stopped was for "riding the wrong way down a one way street". I was exiting the street at the end when I was told I shouldn't be doing that. It was an easy mistake for him to make because there is a no entry sign at the other end of the street so it is effectively one way for through traffic. I pointed to the lack of one way signs and rather than admit a simple mistake he wished to argue the toss "there is no need for signs here, there is a no entry sign" "you must have ignored the no entry sign". I didn't and he was just making assumptions. In the end he said he'd let it go this time but if he saw me ignoring the no entry sign again he'd have to issue a fine Needless to say I wasn't worried enough to feel the need to change my behaviour but it does illustrate how people can dig their heels in rather than admit an error

It can be difficult. There's a path here through a park. It's even part of the NCN. But it isn't signed once you're in the park, nor identified as a cycle path in any way, even where other paths cross it (with no indications of who should give way), so some pedestrians get aggressive about cyclists using it at all.

Re: Punishment Pass - By a Cyclist

17 September 2014 - 11:40am
Funny, I've always found road groups perfectly friendly round here. And individual roadies, with only the odd exception, who may have been concentrating and simply not seen me.
The only two people in the last few weeks who haven't returned my greeting have both been females on sit-up-and-beg bikes. One stared blankly back as if she hadn't expected a greeting, and the other, who glared back at me in a very hostile way, was wearing high-viz and lots of layers under it on a hot day. I figured she must have been suffering and left it at that (maybe if she'd have been in lycra she'd have been cooler and happier).

I hasten to add I was not passing or otherwise annoying either of them.

Re: Pulled Over By The Police

17 September 2014 - 11:37am
Indeed, no problem there. He made a mistake and acknowledged it.

The only time I have been stopped was for "riding the wrong way down a one way street". I was exiting the street at the end when I was told I shouldn't be doing that. It was an easy mistake for him to make because there is a no entry sign at the other end of the street so it is effectively one way for through traffic. I pointed to the lack of one way signs and rather than admit a simple mistake he wished to argue the toss "there is no need for signs here, there is a no entry sign" "you must have ignored the no entry sign". I didn't and he was just making assumptions. In the end he said he'd let it go this time but if he saw me ignoring the no entry sign again he'd have to issue a fine Needless to say I wasn't worried enough to feel the need to change my behaviour but it does illustrate how people can dig their heels in rather than admit an error

Re: Wrong way up a one way street.

17 September 2014 - 11:25am
I'm meeting council officers and other commenters about local CTC and CN campaigners' request for some one-way streets to become one-way-except-cycles in King's Lynn town centre.

Most of the streets (Priory Lane, Nelson Street, St Margaret's Place) are in a 20mph zone and I think most are one-way and resident-access-only to reduce the risk of motor vehicle damage to the historic buildings on them - a reason Jon Lucas didn't mention. They are wide enough for even two average cars to pass (tight but possible at all except one point AFAICT). There are narrower streets which are 30mph two-way unrestricted nearby in the town, which I guess supports Jon's comment about UK one-way streets being random and on-request.

The other street we're asking for (South Quay) is very wide (10m or so) and I think it's one-way so that it creates a gyratory with a narrow traffic-sewer street (Queen Street) as the opposing direction, plus has space for lots more car parking and a wide promenade along one side. Making this one-way-except-cycles could help get cycle routes away from the pedestrianised High Street and the shop service roads used by Lorries.

The alternative routes (involving Church Street, St James Street, Millfleet) all have recent reported cycle collisions on them. It'll be surprising if the one-way-except-cycles is any less safe than that.

The objections I've heard about are a mix of the usual factually-incorrect (it's too narrow, blind or close to parked cars) and off-topic (there'll be bike races! They already ride the wrong way here! Get off and walk!) ones, mostly from residents of the streets involved. I'd love any tips you have for how to win over objectors, or at least defuse the objections, based on what's worked elsewhere. I'm pretty sure Norfolk is about ten years behind on this.

Re: Pulled Over By The Police

17 September 2014 - 11:18am
SteveHunter wrote:This is brilliant. Police stopped this cyclist in London to inform him he shouldn't be cycling on the pavement. He was in fact on a cycle path.


Yes but the officer accepted his mistake with good humour, as did the cyclist.

Re: Punishment Pass - By a Cyclist

17 September 2014 - 11:08am
bovlomov wrote:Psamathe wrote:What is a bit worrying is that the individual is probably doing the same to pedestrians, cars, etc [...]
He's probably doing the same whilst driving a car, and as a pedestrian he's probably elbowing slower/weaker people out of the way.

I'm sure it's the same guy who pushed in front of me at the checkout in Finchley Sainsbury's.
Enough to convict, for sure.

Re: Punishment Pass - By a Cyclist

17 September 2014 - 10:53am
Psamathe wrote:What is a bit worrying is that the individual is probably doing the same to pedestrians, cars, etc [...]
He's probably doing the same whilst driving a car, and as a pedestrian he's probably elbowing slower/weaker people out of the way.

I'm sure it's the same guy who pushed in front of me at the checkout in Finchley Sainsbury's.

Re: Pulled Over By The Police

17 September 2014 - 10:29am
This is brilliant. Police stopped this cyclist in London to inform him he shouldn't be cycling on the pavement. He was in fact on a cycle path.

It's amusing but it does suggest there is something wrong with the design of the cycle path of it wasn't obvious to a pedestrian that's what it was.

http://youtu.be/YHMLMKE1tOk

Re: Pulled Over By The Police

17 September 2014 - 10:13am
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=90510

I've started another tread. Not very scientific but I'd like to get an idea of the extent of this.

Re: Punishment Pass - By a Cyclist

17 September 2014 - 10:04am
I was squirted with water from a car window once.........out of a cyclists water bottle.

Re: Pulled Over By The Police

17 September 2014 - 9:58am
Hi,
I thought of "focus" before reading above post.

Its all about focusing on what is important or lack of focus on what is definately important, you would think that child care or protection of children / vunerable people in the community is important......but obvoiusly today and yesterday it is and was not

The media BBC SW reported on suposed increase in cycling deaths and asked "what could be done" so they look at their tablets and read some comments from the public media twits (tweets) one of which was cyclist running red lights..............

If this has some bearing on the increase in cyclist deaths then lets hear it but it appears to my cynical mind that they are just picking up on what is easy and close to hand instead of confirmable facts............................
The CTC rep they filmed seemed weak and more polititian than authoritable / clear to understand why he was even there

Mass reporting of one or even several individuals / groups is not neccesarily an acurate view of facts / majority views / opinions.

Re: Punishment Pass - By a Cyclist

17 September 2014 - 9:50am
you are just one of the vermin that litters the road as road kill?

Re: Richard 111 "Not wearing helmet"

17 September 2014 - 9:47am
clearly a victim of road rage by our cabby friend

Re: Punishment Pass - By a Cyclist

17 September 2014 - 9:45am
Contact the club, just to let them know as it may be something they are already aware of.


Our club has a strict "cheery wave/nod, friendly greeting and plenty of space" policy when out, even on the fast paced ride.
But then again, coffee and cake stops are mandatory too!

Re: Latest speeding excuse..

17 September 2014 - 9:33am
Flinders wrote:I read the actual report.
According to that, he already had six points on his licence. Given how unlikely it is that any speeding driver is caught, if those points were for speeding, he would have to be a serial offender, and I would not have taken the excuse given.
Either it's a legitimate excuse or it isn't. The number of points already on the licence has no bearing on that, nor does any speculation that he's a "serial speeder". He might be the unluckiest man in the World or he might be an out and out nut-job, who knows?

Re: Pulled Over By The Police

17 September 2014 - 9:31am
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If it's frequent, then we are in the bizarre situation that against a background of a collapse in traffic enforcement, time is being found to devote to something which is hardly a policing priority.

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Happens a lot in failing organisations- things start to fall apart, the powers that be can't sort out the big problems, so they focus on the small ones, and/or the easiest people to bully rather than the real offenders. Schools where the kids run amock and big kids are violent but where the staff ignore the big problems and pick on little, quiet, well-behaved kids for wearing the wrong colour socks is the prime example.

Re: Pulled Over By The Police

17 September 2014 - 9:27am
Sorry, made a multiple post for some reason....not sure how I managed it.

Richard 111 "Not wearing helmet"

17 September 2014 - 7:50am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-le ... e-29222775

He obviously had it coming to him. He probably wasn't wearing a fluorescent jacket either.

Re: Latest speeding excuse..

17 September 2014 - 12:29am

Re: Punishment Pass - By a Cyclist

16 September 2014 - 9:58pm
I get this occasionally - I've always assumed that we just have to live with it. It comes to a point that, if I see a bunch of roadies approaching, and I throw a cheery "good morning" or "good evening", and they return the greeting, I'm the one who nearly tumbles out of my saddle in astonishment. Things ought not to have come to this pass.

I can't expect a fully-kitted-up roadie to have a bell, but at least some sort of verbal warning, and a decent amount of room - it doesn't cost anything!

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