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Re: Unbelievable

30 October 2014 - 10:30am
Theres a driving instructor lives on my street, and when he's not teaching he's often on his bike. I'll try and ask him next time I see him..

Re: Unbelievable

30 October 2014 - 10:25am
reohn2 wrote:Bonefishblues wrote:......It's one of those "not for all the tea in China" jobs for me

Nor me,but if you enter the kitchen in your own Accord you expect heat.
Fixed that for fun

I know, but how it must grind you down...

Re: Unbelievable

30 October 2014 - 10:20am
Bonefishblues wrote:......It's one of those "not for all the tea in China" jobs for me

Nor me,but if you enter the kitchen of your own accord you expect heat.

Re: Unbelievable

30 October 2014 - 9:54am
reohn2 wrote:Bonefishblues wrote:Yes, you're right, there are two perspectives.

To be fair the incidents mentioned are the only two I've had in the last ten or so years,most driving school cars give me enough clearance.
However I went on a driving instructors forum and wasn't impressed by their attitude.
Let me take a wild guess - they feel almost as beleaguered and under pressure as urban cyclists?

It's one of those "not for all the tea in China" jobs for me

Re: Unbelievable

30 October 2014 - 9:51am
Thinking, picking up an incident of a bad driver will at best make that one driver "see the light" and behave more sensibly in future. But a driving instructor can have a big influence of a large number of (future) drivers. It would be good if their regulatory body took such reports seriously (maybe they do, interesting to hear from anybody that has tried reporting such behaviour to them).

Ian

Re: Unbelievable

30 October 2014 - 9:41am
Bonefishblues wrote:Yes, you're right, there are two perspectives.

To be fair the incidents mentioned are the only two I've had in the last ten or so years,most driving school cars give me enough clearance.
However I went on a driving instructors forum and wasn't impressed by their attitude.

Re: Unbelievable

30 October 2014 - 9:32am
reohn2 wrote:Bonefishblues wrote:Meanwhile, in another universe...

"You passed that cyclist far too closely. I didn't reach across to the steering wheel on this occasion because I could see you were going to clear him, but please, in future leave a much wider gap. This applies to other road users as well - for instance that line of parked cars up ahead. What would happen if one opened a door whilst you were passing?"

...and so on.

When I learned to drive I made mistakes too, and the Instructor corrected me and gave me feedback. As someone who has done some training in an earlier life, and who still does a lot of coaching it's a difficult but important balance to strike between intervening, or allowing a situation to develop and feeding back after the event.

Just a thought.
Or in this universe:-
I phoned the number on top of the driving school car,and asked if he could advise his pupil to steer a bit wider and give cyclists more room,his reply was along the lines of "stop bleating he didn't hit you did he? I get tired of hearing it from you cyclists"
Not the ideal driving instructor.
I meant to report him but if it's anything like reporting incidents to the police it would be a wasted phone call.
Yes, you're right, there are two perspectives.

Re: Unbelievable

30 October 2014 - 9:30am
Bonefishblues wrote:Meanwhile, in another universe...

"You passed that cyclist far too closely. I didn't reach across to the steering wheel on this occasion because I could see you were going to clear him, but please, in future leave a much wider gap. This applies to other road users as well - for instance that line of parked cars up ahead. What would happen if one opened a door whilst you were passing?"

...and so on.

When I learned to drive I made mistakes too, and the Instructor corrected me and gave me feedback. As someone who has done some training in an earlier life, and who still does a lot of coaching it's a difficult but important balance to strike between intervening, or allowing a situation to develop and feeding back after the event.

Just a thought.
Or in this universe:-
I phoned the number on top of the driving school car,and asked if he could advise his pupil to steer a bit wider and give cyclists more room,his reply was along the lines of "stop bleating he didn't hit you did he? I get tired of hearing it from you cyclists"
Not the ideal driving instructor.
I meant to report him but if it's anything like reporting incidents to the police it would be a wasted phone call.

Re: Unbelievable

30 October 2014 - 9:18am
Meanwhile, in another universe...

"You passed that cyclist far too closely. I didn't reach across to the steering wheel on this occasion because I could see you were going to clear him, but please, in future leave a much wider gap. This applies to other road users as well - for instance that line of parked cars up ahead. What would happen if one opened a door whilst you were passing?"

...and so on.

When I learned to drive I made mistakes too, and the Instructor corrected me and gave me feedback. As someone who has done some training in an earlier life, and who still does a lot of coaching it's a difficult but important balance to strike between intervening, or allowing a situation to develop and feeding back after the event.

Just a thought.

Re: Unbelievable

30 October 2014 - 8:14am
When I learned to drive in the 80's in Cambridge, my instructor continually stressed that I should leave 6 feet clearance for cyclists, particularly important in a place like Cambridge. Its something I've never forgotten and always observe when I'm driving. Its a pity the Highway Code isn't a bit more specific on this.

Re: Short Survey - Do you use service stations?

29 October 2014 - 11:32pm
Use them on Audaxes , late night rides , Majorca. When other places are shut , when I want a quick stop and not the faffing around that goes on in most tea shops unlike transport cafes) Etc = would sir like a latte , Americano etc. No just a mug of instant white coffee thanks with milk all ready in it . Not 10 mins faffing and then I still have to assemble it myself

Re: I Hate Virgin Trains

29 October 2014 - 10:56pm
tyreon wrote:Can I make complaint?

I want to know why a return journey is but a few pence more than a single journey by train. I would often like to cycle out some 60 miles from where I live to catch a train back...but paying just a few pence less for a single ticket than a return ticket would cost seems somewhat unfair. Of course,I could buy a return ticket,then put up the ticket on some 'gratis' board for some passenger returning to the station I had left earlier. That would be a 'giveaway' ...but one I fear our train operators would not endorse. From memory,the underground staff used 'to go spare' when I used to giveaway(gratis) my all-day purchased ticket when I had finished my journey(s)

FWIW I'm always frightened taking my bike by train. You have rules and regs to deal with. Then the inadequate storage for bikes. Dunno how any disabled people in a wheelchair get on trains in wheelchairs!!

I was talking to someone today who had just found that the cheapest return air fare to the USA later this week was cheaper than the cheapest single (a single is what she wanted). That's really insane, as a passenger on an airline must have a higher marginal cost than one on a train.

Re: Parked cars - what do they *expect* I'm going to do.

29 October 2014 - 9:19pm
In my Highway Code it says it is the overtaking vehicles responsibility to make sure it is clear. Having said that you should be defensive and check over your shoulder

Re: Interpersonal communication

29 October 2014 - 9:14pm
I have to confess, I burst out with foul language now and again - we are all weak in some way. Usually in exasperation rather than abusive. If I call another road user names, it'll usually be when they're out of earshot. I'm a coward when it comes to road rage.

Which reminds me of a little incident during our recent USA trip. Driving along a single carriageway at night, I was aggressively tailgated by another motorist who then overtook me quite dangerously in the face of oncoming traffic, forcing me to brake (to give him room to pull in). I gave an admonitory flash of my headlights, but owing to my unfamiliarity with the hire-car's controls, I inadvertantly put the lights on full beam for a few seconds instead of just a flash.

The car that had overtaken me came to a sudden stop in front of me for no apparent reason. That was scary. Was I about to get involved in a bit of road rage, USA-style? For all I knew, the driver might have had a gun . As I said, I was scared: I stopped and waited. Luckily he thought better of it and drove on.

My B-i-L (who lives in the States, and who we were visiting) later told me that I was profoundly stupid to flash the other car. In the USA people take such things seriously. Lesson learnt!

Re: accident claims

29 October 2014 - 8:25pm
You get a lot of cyclist on cyclist accidents in racing and road clubs due mainly to the close riding . I can recall many in my cycling club in the last few years including broken neck , broken hip , and many very bad ones. Cant recall anyone claiming against the other rider though despite if they were cases with cars they would be in the many thousand bracket.

Unless you get bad injuries you would not get much anyhow and no win no fee has gone and was always dodgey

Re: Interpersonal communication

29 October 2014 - 8:24pm
beardy wrote:That was a bit forward of him, whatever happened to romance?
Another windup

Large company's van and a "middle finger salute"

Sent video to Company thanking the driver for offering to compensate for his appalling driving with an act of sexual activity

However I would have to decline as having seen how inconsiderate his driving was, I was unconvinced he would be a considerate lover and as a result the experience would probably not be worthwhile

The reply from the company was very apologetic and their trying to explain that their employee was not offering sexual favours without admitting that they had behaved improperly was very funny

Re: Pushing a bike on a footpath.

29 October 2014 - 8:19pm
Cant you just deliver some junk mail to qualify
Perhaps a leaflet on cycling

Re: Interpersonal communication

29 October 2014 - 7:36pm
Once had a guy call me a "copulating onanist"

Caught up in traffic and asked if he could count as far as two, or whether English was his problem?

?

Bemused look and asked what I was on about

Pointed out that Copulation requires two (or more) whereas onanism is a solitary activity

Then pointed out that it was pointless squealing profanities if your illiteracy was merely going to make you look stupid

Re: Interpersonal communication

29 October 2014 - 7:18pm
Pompey Monkey wrote:is an odd thing, isn't it?

Only this morning I asked a lorry driver, who seemed to want to get to know me and my bike very well indeed, if there was anything I could help him with.

The answer, consisting of a single sentence, managed to included a reference to both fornication and male genitalia!

Ain't life grand!



beardy wrote:That was a bit forward of him, whatever happened to romance?

Did not even wait for the first date meal. What a cheapskate.

Re: Interpersonal communication

29 October 2014 - 6:44pm
You're lucky. In my most recent altercation with another road user, I only got a directive to fornicate (repeated numerous times).

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