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Re: More Dawes bashing?

14 September 2014 - 9:16am
On the crank, I believe components starting with 5 with 3 numbers are Deore level. So tiagra equivalent for mountain bike components. More than likely specced as the only trekking crank Shimano do. Deore is pretty standard in touring bikes.

As an aside spacycles.co.uk have a 2013 ultra galaxy for 1290 quid...

Re: Pulled Over By The Police

14 September 2014 - 9:08am
I have had this discussion, then asked for a fixed penalty...

That rather put the policeman on their back foot.

He said that he wished to give me a verbal warning, and when I explained that I required the ticket so I could appeal as he was in the wrong, he was even more reluctant.

In the end I simply checked that he recorded the fact that he had stopped me giving time and date

A short letter later I had an apology that I should not have been stopped, had done nothing wrong and that the officer had been made aware of his error

Funny thing is that on that occasion he could have done me for the lights as I had left the RVLR compliant front light charging on my desk and only had the (illegal) Magicshine on the front

Re: More Dawes bashing?

14 September 2014 - 9:03am
I think common agreement is that Dawes ultra galaxy's are over priced. Saying that I think judging thee components by the same requirements as for other road bikes is probably a bit disingenuous. They're specced for durability not weight or groupset level. For example 105 is specified as the 10 speed version is the only one Shimano officially recognise will take a larger cassette. You could fit a 9 speed mountain one but I do t think any manufacturer do that. Alex rims may be "budget" but they are strong, the crank is no griupset but one of the only triples Shimano do, etc. etc.. What you're actually seeing is the outcome of the major component manufacturers stuffing over anyone who doesn't want a 50/34 compact...

More Dawes bashing?

14 September 2014 - 8:44am
To cut a long story short I seriously looked at getting a Dawes Ultra Galaxy last year as my London commuter but ended up getting a genuine CX bike for about the same price as the more sporty geometry and lighter weight seemed more appropriate.

Anyway, having now started to ride much longer distances I'm revisiting the possibility of getting an Ultra Galaxy. I needed to get some bike bits so popped into a local bike shop. While waiting to be served I wandered around looking at the bikes. To my surprise I found a 2014 Ultra Galaxy ( front badge still peeling!) In the touring section. Decided to go through a genuine process of buying it by checking out the bike ie what am I getting for my money. Firstly the group set looked a bit of a mish mash (ugly?) especially as my current bikes groupset is all from I group set.

Brake levers Tiagra. Was surprised to find that these are entry level.
Crank. Took a while to find out about this but it was from a set below even Tiagra and it's entry level spec.
Rear mech. For some reason Dawes has specified 105. Am wondering if that's a marketing choice?
Wheels. Alexrims. Salesperson told me its very much a budget brand and the wheels would cost about £60 retail for both.
Brakes standard shimano discs
Rear rack. Not Blackburn no lowriders included.

Generally what I found was a mass of entry and sub-entry level kit on what Dawes is flogging as its premium top of the range tourer. Apart from the 853 frame (£600 retail on its own) where the hell is £1800 worth bike??

My current bike once you factor in the frame cost difference would be £250 more expensive BUT for that £250 you'd get full Shimano Ultegra and a £600 wheelset.

Is Dawes taking the pee?

Just noticed on Dawes 2014 marketing for the Ulltra Galaxy " Together with 30 speed Shimano 105 gears" no mention of the mass of entry level Tiagra or sub-entry level crank!!!

Definitely NOT getting one but wondering about getting last years UG frame and specing myself with full Ultegra groupo what with it costing below £500.

Re: Off The bike for a while

14 September 2014 - 5:38am
Ouch! shame about the holiday, but speedy recovery.

Re: Pulled Over By The Police

14 September 2014 - 12:34am
I would have probably already have been arrested.

Is that upholding the law..............
Its bending the law to their whim..............

I do believe the police of today are well instructed what not to get involved with and when no crime appears they start to wonder.

It must be remembered that police are recruited from the general public and thus you will get what we have today in the police too.

If a member of police can receive so many complaints they are forced to leave / sacked ? then they get to work for police as a civilian, eventualy being re-employed by police, then they are responsible for actions that lead to the death of a member of public, they are taken to court but get off......what does that say to you about the integrity of our police force today

Re: Pulled Over By The Police

13 September 2014 - 11:59pm
I'm sure they have the power to direct traffic which (amongst other things) can include directing traffic contraflow down one way streets and I'm sure it would also include instructing cycles to use the pavement.

Jughead, I believe that this is serious enough to make a complaint about. I'm sure that it would be found that the officers hadn't broken any rules by advising you to wear helmets and hi-vis because that is also the Highway Code advice but it might result in instructions being passed down not to pull over any more perfectly road legal cyclists

Re: Advice on accident involving a dog

13 September 2014 - 11:09pm
Is it a new for old policy though? If there is a liability insurance policy covering the dog, they'll only be willing to pay a market value for your used bike.

Re: Off The bike for a while

13 September 2014 - 11:03pm
Sorry to hear about your tumble.

I dislocated my collar bone twenty years ago, and nothing was done so I live with it, not a big problem unless I do over head decorations.
Bike riding is ok but I have a stabbing pain in shoulder now and a gain which lasts about a second or two just the once in a ride.
Get it fixed, hope it goes well.

Re: Pulled Over By The Police

13 September 2014 - 10:19pm
So how exactly were you a danger to other road users?

And are the police allowed to instruct you to break the law?

Re: Off The bike for a while

13 September 2014 - 9:45pm
Sorry to hear of your off, wish you a speedy recovery.

Beautiful part of Ireland, holidayed near Skibereen last summer (sans bike).

Off The bike for a while

13 September 2014 - 9:42pm
I've just returned from Ireland, a little earlier than intended. The original plan was for two of us to spend a week staying with a friend near Skibereen doing day rides and then to set of for a six or seven day tour of the Beara Peninsular. Unfortunately on a day ride to Mizzen Head we were returning along the Dunmanus shore when I had an off and dislocated my collar bone. The planned tour of the Beara had to be cancelled which was a great shame as the weather in Ireland was fantastic and looked set to continue that way.

A&E at Bantry Hospital were very efficient and I was advised by the doctor on duty to see an orthopaedic specialist when I returned to the UK. I've spent the last couple of days sitting in hospital waiting rooms and the outcome is that they will probably perform a minor operation to correct it next Thursday.

Re: Biker's death filmed - horrific.

13 September 2014 - 9:36pm
Phil Fouracre wrote:Personally I've got to agree that the excessive speed was really the main problem.
How can that possibly be true?

Suppose he was travelling at the speed limit, would he have survived?
Suppose the driver actually looked and thus didn't pull out, would he have survived?

The "main" problem was simply that the driver didn't look.

Re: First Audax - Thoroughly enjoyable!

13 September 2014 - 9:27pm

Re: Pulled Over By The Police

13 September 2014 - 9:26pm
You were lucky not to get a £30 fine : viewtopic.php?f=41&t=88351

Advice from the police to wear a helmet is covered here: viewtopic.php?f=41&t=76886 & viewtopic.php?f=41&t=81622

Re: Pulled Over By The Police

13 September 2014 - 9:25pm
It seems to me, the only thing you were a danger to, was their quotas. Or to be more accurate, there was a danger to their quotas in not stopping you...

See also this thread on the same topic.

Re: Pulled Over By The Police

13 September 2014 - 9:22pm
Nearly 40 years ago I was cycling home at dusk, I probably should of had lights but because I had on a Bright orange rainsuit down to my feet I thought I was seeable.

A jam sandwich came along side and told me to get of and walk, which I did.
200 yards down the road I considered getting back on, I did not but as I passed a junction I spyed the couple of jam sandwich ocupants in the dark, I passed they drove off.

It appears it runs in the family as your guys are their offspring

The emphasis appears to be by the media to make cyclist more safe they must be trained.

No amount of training will keep you safe from drivers today.

Will be interesting to see if you cycled on pavement and round the corner you were stopped by bobby on the beat and wanted to fine you
What defence would you offer...............

SPOILERS !!!!!!!!!! Re: Off the see The Tour .....

13 September 2014 - 9:11pm
What a shambles.
Dowset is in yellow.
Kwiatkoski is in the Wiggo group ahead of Dowset.
So Dowset Yellow
Kwiatkoski 34 seconds down
Wiggo is 1 m 3 secs down from Dowset.

Race finishes Vermot wins stage, and comentators say that Kwiatkoski will be in yellow and Wiggo is 30 secs down, Dowset finishes well down is a seperate group.
Then the GC board comes up with wiggo 49 seconds down from yellow, dowset is just 12 seconds back from wiggo.
Kwiatkoski is 19 seconds off YELLOW

Van Daarle is in yellow


He was in the leading group and picked up bonuses by coming in third but amounted bonuses earlier in the stage (IIRC)

There were long pauses in the comentry not the usual fast talking rundown of the top GC riders..........long pauses................
Ned and Hales tried to recover the embarissment.....ha ha ha............

Some poor B%^%^$ head buted the railing on the final bend which was in full view but was not mentioned at all, he limped home one foot off the pedal.

In the Highlights all is corrected by the final comentry finishes with Ned and Hayles just joking around..............

If they did not have the info then all they had to do is admit it
If they were caught napping just say so.

But no never admit any oversights or balls ups...........

Pulled Over By The Police

13 September 2014 - 9:07pm
Just after nine so had a front light, rear light and flashing lights on my rucksack. They told me that with oncoming traffic headlights I was a danger. They asked why I wasn't wearing a hi-viz vest and a helmet. Told them I have cycled for some 40+ years without either and wasnt going to start now. They told me to get off the road and cycle on the pavement as I was a danger to other road users.
I did as they instructed. Just as well as they had pulled into a side street a couple of hundred yards ahead to spy on me. Must have been a slow night for them. So helmets and hi-viz are not legal requirements. Can the police force you wear them if they deem you are a danger.

Re: Biker's death filmed - horrific.

13 September 2014 - 7:43pm
Interesting perspective from some posters, I commented earlier in the thread that it could be seen as both parties contributing to the 'accident' Personally I've got to agree that the excessive speed was really the main problem. If the vid is posted to 'educate' then surely you would expect a wide range of responses, and know that you might not like them all, niceties probably wouldn't come into it. Watching the vid, I would have thought, riding a bike, approaching a junction/built up area, that you would have been slowing down, irrespective of any speed limit. Whatever you are riding/driving, surely anticipation is one of the most important skills you have to exercise.


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